Hello! Yes by the way they are my own words and That was a just a brief summary of my philosophy in a broad sense. Being sure of yourself gives you a foundation; the wisdom of living gives you insight; knowing what is important gives you leverage; and passion gives you purpose. There are plenty of issues I'm sure we could cover but I would suggest you start with one rather than trying to cast doubt on my foundation. The truth is in the pudding and I have a purpose if you can discover it.
I believe that we choose to be incarnated as a way of defining our spirit. Most souls came to earth with the best of intentions. There is no unforgivable sin for those of a penitant heart. There is no eternal hell to go howerver we can reap what we sow.
God is our friend and we knew of the risks because there is a struggle between good and evil. We must take great care of our natural world, create a strong criminal justice system, stop hording real-estate, and be regionally self-sufficient.
@TheKnightsOfCamelot You have an interesting philosophy of life. I am curious where you got it. In other words, do you beliefs come from somewhere or are they just personal to you. Also, where ever they come from, how sure are you that they match reality?
@BaileysBeads The same meaning that He gives to his creation, namely to lift up and praise that thing which is the best, namely Himself. Look at the John Piper video that I favorited for a more comprehensive explanation.
@MsCoralline I used to have a problem with this concept too, but what if He really is the best thing. Then His calling us to worship Him would be the very best thing for Him and us. When you look at a beautiful mountain range or some beautiful scene in nature, are you not for a second a little bit in awe. Don't you find joy in the sheer greatness or beauty of a thing? Well, if that is simply a reflection of God's beauty is it not loving to point us to Himself.
Yes. I'm in awe and find great beauty in the majesty of nature -- and in the intricacies of life, big or small. All praise the Invisible Pink Unicorn for having produced all this wondrousness for us!
What is your awe? What is beauty? For you is it not just the firings of some electrical impulses in your brain? Does not atheism lead to reductionism so that everything meaningful is simply a reflection of your particular feelings at the moment with no larger significance?
@MsCoralline I get that you think that. I don't, so I believe there is something real in my moments with God. If there is no God, so what? What difference does it make anyway? If everything meaningful is just a reflection of an individual's particular feelings at the moment, and my times with my invisible friend give me warm fuzzy feelings, then for me they are right. I made this same point in my atheist crutches video.
@MsCoralline He does not need our worship, as is proved by the fact that He does not force it even though He could. He wants us to worship Him because He loves us, and it is the best thing for us.
What is the meaning of your life? Does it bring you lasting joy? Are you a better person for seeking it?
@MsCoralline Joshua 24:15 says "choose today whom you will serve." This is Joshua talking to the Jews, but making it clear that they had a choice. Furthermore, the obvious evidence in the world around me makes it apparent that not everyone follows or worships God. Therefore, my present experience confirms that if God does exist (which I believe for other reasons), then it is a fact that not He does not force people to worship Him.
@MsCoralline You should understand that by saying this you show a tremendous bias that probably limits your ability to accept things that don't fit into your comfortable box.
You asked me for MY evidence about the mind of God. I do accept the Bible as evidence of God speaking, so I gave you a verse that helped to make my point.
Dismissing the evidence without argument is not an argument.
@MsCoralline I did not say that He does not provide reasons to follow Him or consequences for not following HIm. If He did not tell people the truth about the world and how to have the best life, then He would not be loving. But He does not ensure the result, we have a choice whether to believe Him or not. Obviously you don't, I do. We both also have a choice whether to step in front of moving buses. Just because there is a consequence does not take away the choice.
Ah, but the bus is a falsifiable, obvious consequence. Step in front of it, and you get killed or maimed.
No such evidence exists for your god, loving or not.
You ask what difference it makes anyway. What difference does it make when a child grows up fearful of thought crimes? Is handicapped by being told that he must love some invisible, jealous, capricious character? And how is this character different than Yaweh, or Ra, or Zeus, or Allah?
@MsCoralline Or mother earth or science or money or success or anything else. From your perspective so what? If someone lives a contented life believing in that your invisible pink unicorn takes care of them, so what? How are you superior to them? Why would your subjective opinions about what is important in life be any be any better than theirs? What makes electrical firings in your brain better than someone else's?
@MsCoralline The bus analogy was simply used to show how consequence does not take away choice. You stated that hell meant that God used compulsion, and I was simply responding that your argument did not mean God forced decision. I never addressed the question of the reality of hell versus buses.
Fine, then we have the "choice" to grovel, or to get hideously tortured for eternity. You can call that "choice" if you'd like, but it's a sad, content-free definition of the word.
@MsCoralline Thank you. You have given me the idea for my next video. I am going to make one about all the groveling I get to do before God, and how terrible it is.
As to hell here is a quote I like that talks about our choices.
There are only two kinds of people in the end:
those who say to God, ‘Thy will be done,’
And those to whom God says, in the end, ‘Thy will be done’
@MsCoralline Good term. I had to look it up, and I can see why skeptics like to use it. No doubt I have some confirmation bias at times, but so do you. If you think not then you are fooling yourself. In this case, I do not see how it applies to either me or Lewis though? What conclusions did I draw that showed my biases? I used the Lewis quote to help state that the Christian doctrine is that God doesn't just send people to hell, people also choose not to be with Him.
Hello! Yes by the way they are my own words and That was a just a brief summary of my philosophy in a broad sense. Being sure of yourself gives you a foundation; the wisdom of living gives you insight; knowing what is important gives you leverage; and passion gives you purpose. There are plenty of issues I'm sure we could cover but I would suggest you start with one rather than trying to cast doubt on my foundation. The truth is in the pudding and I have a purpose if you can discover it.
TheKnightsOfCamelot 1 year ago
I believe that we choose to be incarnated as a way of defining our spirit. Most souls came to earth with the best of intentions. There is no unforgivable sin for those of a penitant heart. There is no eternal hell to go howerver we can reap what we sow.
God is our friend and we knew of the risks because there is a struggle between good and evil. We must take great care of our natural world, create a strong criminal justice system, stop hording real-estate, and be regionally self-sufficient.
TheKnightsOfCamelot 1 year ago
@TheKnightsOfCamelot You have an interesting philosophy of life. I am curious where you got it. In other words, do you beliefs come from somewhere or are they just personal to you. Also, where ever they come from, how sure are you that they match reality?
Thanks for watching.
littlemas2 1 year ago
If god gives meaning to life, then what's the meaning of god?
BaileysBeads 1 year ago
@BaileysBeads The same meaning that He gives to his creation, namely to lift up and praise that thing which is the best, namely Himself. Look at the John Piper video that I favorited for a more comprehensive explanation.
littlemas2 1 year ago
@littlemas2
Ah. So "He" -- whomsoever 'He' is -- is an arrogant, selfish, insecure wanker. Nice!
MsCoralline 1 year ago
@MsCoralline I used to have a problem with this concept too, but what if He really is the best thing. Then His calling us to worship Him would be the very best thing for Him and us. When you look at a beautiful mountain range or some beautiful scene in nature, are you not for a second a little bit in awe. Don't you find joy in the sheer greatness or beauty of a thing? Well, if that is simply a reflection of God's beauty is it not loving to point us to Himself.
littlemas2 1 year ago
@littlemas2
Yes. I'm in awe and find great beauty in the majesty of nature -- and in the intricacies of life, big or small. All praise the Invisible Pink Unicorn for having produced all this wondrousness for us!
MsCoralline 1 year ago
What is your awe? What is beauty? For you is it not just the firings of some electrical impulses in your brain? Does not atheism lead to reductionism so that everything meaningful is simply a reflection of your particular feelings at the moment with no larger significance?
littlemas2 1 year ago
@littlemas2
Just as it is for you. You simply dress it up in a lot of folderol and insist that you're sharing the moment with your invisible friend.
MsCoralline 1 year ago
@MsCoralline I get that you think that. I don't, so I believe there is something real in my moments with God. If there is no God, so what? What difference does it make anyway? If everything meaningful is just a reflection of an individual's particular feelings at the moment, and my times with my invisible friend give me warm fuzzy feelings, then for me they are right. I made this same point in my atheist crutches video.
littlemas2 1 year ago
@MsCoralline He does not need our worship, as is proved by the fact that He does not force it even though He could. He wants us to worship Him because He loves us, and it is the best thing for us.
What is the meaning of your life? Does it bring you lasting joy? Are you a better person for seeking it?
littlemas2 1 year ago
@littlemas2
"Fact"? You have a very hazy, feel-goody definition of "fact", don't you? You claim to know the mind of God; let's see some evidence of that.
MsCoralline 1 year ago
@MsCoralline Joshua 24:15 says "choose today whom you will serve." This is Joshua talking to the Jews, but making it clear that they had a choice. Furthermore, the obvious evidence in the world around me makes it apparent that not everyone follows or worships God. Therefore, my present experience confirms that if God does exist (which I believe for other reasons), then it is a fact that not He does not force people to worship Him.
littlemas2 1 year ago
@littlemas2
You MUST understand that quoting Bible verses is the last resort of one who has no evidence.
MsCoralline 1 year ago
@MsCoralline You should understand that by saying this you show a tremendous bias that probably limits your ability to accept things that don't fit into your comfortable box.
You asked me for MY evidence about the mind of God. I do accept the Bible as evidence of God speaking, so I gave you a verse that helped to make my point.
Dismissing the evidence without argument is not an argument.
littlemas2 1 year ago
@littlemas2
Right. Because the concept of everlasting hell isn't a compulsion.
MsCoralline 1 year ago
@MsCoralline I did not say that He does not provide reasons to follow Him or consequences for not following HIm. If He did not tell people the truth about the world and how to have the best life, then He would not be loving. But He does not ensure the result, we have a choice whether to believe Him or not. Obviously you don't, I do. We both also have a choice whether to step in front of moving buses. Just because there is a consequence does not take away the choice.
littlemas2 1 year ago
@littlemas2
Ah, but the bus is a falsifiable, obvious consequence. Step in front of it, and you get killed or maimed.
No such evidence exists for your god, loving or not.
You ask what difference it makes anyway. What difference does it make when a child grows up fearful of thought crimes? Is handicapped by being told that he must love some invisible, jealous, capricious character? And how is this character different than Yaweh, or Ra, or Zeus, or Allah?
MsCoralline 1 year ago
@MsCoralline Or mother earth or science or money or success or anything else. From your perspective so what? If someone lives a contented life believing in that your invisible pink unicorn takes care of them, so what? How are you superior to them? Why would your subjective opinions about what is important in life be any be any better than theirs? What makes electrical firings in your brain better than someone else's?
littlemas2 1 year ago
@MsCoralline The bus analogy was simply used to show how consequence does not take away choice. You stated that hell meant that God used compulsion, and I was simply responding that your argument did not mean God forced decision. I never addressed the question of the reality of hell versus buses.
littlemas2 1 year ago
@littlemas2
Fine, then we have the "choice" to grovel, or to get hideously tortured for eternity. You can call that "choice" if you'd like, but it's a sad, content-free definition of the word.
MsCoralline 1 year ago
@MsCoralline Thank you. You have given me the idea for my next video. I am going to make one about all the groveling I get to do before God, and how terrible it is.
As to hell here is a quote I like that talks about our choices.
There are only two kinds of people in the end:
those who say to God, ‘Thy will be done,’
And those to whom God says, in the end, ‘Thy will be done’
All that are in Hell, choose it.”
-- C.S. Lewis
littlemas2 1 year ago
@littlemas2
Nice. That's called 'confirmation bias', and Lewis was infamous for it. Sad.
MsCoralline 1 year ago
@MsCoralline Good term. I had to look it up, and I can see why skeptics like to use it. No doubt I have some confirmation bias at times, but so do you. If you think not then you are fooling yourself. In this case, I do not see how it applies to either me or Lewis though? What conclusions did I draw that showed my biases? I used the Lewis quote to help state that the Christian doctrine is that God doesn't just send people to hell, people also choose not to be with Him.
littlemas2 1 year ago