Are You Ready For A Miracle--Golgota Gospel Korus Christmas '08

[Andyjzr]

That's brilliant. Amazing the stuff you find on You Tube. Love it.

[jimdivax]

It's my observation that critics of 'white' gospel invariably have little real Christian faith. They enjoy gospel music for its form only and have little time for its true substance...the celebration of Christ,.. which even the 'blackest' of true believers would agree is what this music's all about. I recently had a conversation where someone said....'I love gospel music...I just hate all that religious claptrap that comes with it'. They entirely miss the point!

[M2CHRLATOR]

fail

[LunarTuner]

@dontscreaminmyear Glad you removed that comment. Race has no bearing whatsoever on the joy and intention of this mostly Hungarian Choir.

[ColoFratGuy]

This choir is DEAD...they need to clap and get MORE in the spirit!

[ShoutHard]

"DEAD"? Have you seen the ratings on this video!!??

I think that's a terrible overstatement! Obviously you don't know the Hungarian culture. If you did, you would be amazed at this! They may not be as demonstrative as other choirs, but they are unpaid volunteers in a culture as far away from Brooklyn or Atlanta as they can be.

[ColoFratGuy]

@ShoutHard yes I saw the ratings...with me coming from a musical background with directing a choir in HS, College and in Church...I let my members get in the spirit and NOT just stand there and wobble their heads! They need to sway back and fourth, clap their hands and use full force when singing...PATHETIC and has NOTHING to do with the Hungarian culture...your screen name "SHOUTHARD" should know to shout hard! Sure the lead singers got into it!

[ShoutHard]

Uh... we ALL come from a musical background. I appreciate your perspective, but our director has plenty of credentials too and 10 years in this culture. Come here and try to get volunteer singers and Hungarian audiences to show the same enthusiasm as Western culture and you'll make a fool of yourself. But, go for it.

I sang lead. I was constantly encouraged to curb my enthusiasm. I'm on YOUR side, but until you've been here--no matter your credentials--your judgment is naive. Peace.

[ColoFratGuy]

I can almost guarentee I will WIN THE CROWD...Get that soul goin in the background, get the hands clapping and with the choir SHOUTING, I will shake the rafters! Naive...?! Watch that tongue

[ShoutHard]

Hey, man, I'm all for raisin' the roof. I'm just sharing my experience. These are fantastic, talented, brilliant people. You'd love 'em.

Tell you what...I take back "naive" if you take back "pathetic". :)

[ColoFratGuy]

Agreed...I do apologize!

[Pandapet1]

@ColoFratGuy You might get in the Spirit (the Holy Spirit) and stop being so critical of others. The Spirit of God is not so judgmental.

[SparklinZebra]

@ShoutHard the choir is not a professional choir! these are all volunteers...alot of the people cant sing solos to save their lives... but as a whole they are good.

i too am in the choir this year and i wish we could be more expressive but shouthard is right.. u make a fool of yourself here in europe..its a different culture :)

sorry if u dont understand!

[viera1963]

@ColoFratGuy I agree. I don't know how any choir could sing this song without clapping and moving. This is a song you have to move to. When I listened to the Patti LaBelle version just sitting here in front of my computer it made me want to move. This is a song a choir has to put life into and I'm not in Atlanta or Brooklyn either-not even in the U.S. so I don't know what that other guy was talking about. 'Culture' or 'country' has nothing to do with it.

[ShoutHard]

@viera1963, "that other guy" is me...the one singing solo in this song. I appreciate your thoughts, but in some cultures around the world, clapping and moving mean completely different things. Trust me, we did everything in our power to get these folks to move. It just doesn't come naturally and frankly, sometimes it was hilarious and pretty distracting. You should have seen them try to dance a salsa! They weren't always still. You can see that in other samples online.

[viera1963]

@ShoutHard I hear what you're saying but Hungarian ppl. must be like the walking dead. I don't know of ANY culture that doesn't clap/move to music-even primal tribes. I think the music director made a bad choice in choosing this song for them-why choose an uptempo song for a bunch of stiff robots? They should have sang Amazing Grace or something that would have suited them better. Not to be critical but facts are facts & you put yourself out there by posting this-you have to expect feedback :-(

[viera1963]

@ShoutHard You know, I had another look and it wasn't THAT bad...some of them were moving in the front. They really weren't that stiff so I don't think it's fair of me to say that. I guess I can understand that it's not their thing to jump up and down and clap and all that-to each his own.

You sounded really good, by the way.

[ShoutHard]

@viera1963, Thank you for that. No, it's not my intent to portray my friends as "dead." But Hungary is distinctly "Hungarian" and "Atlanta" is distinctly "Atlanta" (or any other other city with a black, Gospel choir). Cultures do have distinctions. That's all I'm trying to say. I know some seriously amazing dancers in this choir. I also know that many are rhythmically challenged. Mark Zeeman has a HUGE challenge. Watch a few more of their songs and I think you'll see that it's no one's fault.

[viera1963]

@ShoutHard One last thing-you've mentioned Atlanta & the black culture. I don't necessarily think it's a black thing-although black people may put more life into it for the most part. It's not even an American thing. Denomination has a lot to do with it. I'm from Bermuda which is mostly Anglican & black people are quiet in church. My church was Pentecostal and TONS of white people were jumping up & down, clapping, getting in the spirit, etc. so I don't think it's a black or white thing.

[viera1963]

@ShoutHard If you go down south you'd find the same at a lot of 'white' churches. I've seen it in Tennesee-white choirs jumping & clapping, etc. So how do you define 'culture'? It's not a 'black' culture thing. It's not a country culture thing-we're not influenced by Atlanta yet if you came to some churches here you'd think you were in Atlanta. I think I know what you mean to a degree, but I don't really understand what culture has to do with this because you see joyful ppl. in ALL cultures.

[ShoutHard]

@viera1963, I agree. It's not my intention to suggest that it's a black/white thing. I'm only pointing out that there is a genre of music one might call "Black Gospel" that mostly grew in black-dominant churches of the US South. I agree. I think it's not an issue of race at all, but of culture and "personality" to some extent.

[viera1963]

@ShoutHard O.k.-got you...nice talking to you. Keep on singing!

[telsport]

EXCELLENT MUSICIANSHIP, LEAD VOCALS ARE ACCURATRE AND ENTHUSED.

ONLY ON OCCASION, THERE IS A BIT OF A LAG BETWEEN SINGER AND BAND..A 3% TIGHTEN UP WOULD PUT THIS VERSION SQUARE ON WITH ANY VERSION ANYWHERE ..OR BETTER !

mAKE THAT 2% ! Achorus magnifico.

Tom in Utica NY

[Julika9290]

This was amazing! I am so glad you got to do that. You sounded great! :) Miss you!

[smarchie]

Csúúúúúúúúcs, csodásak voltatok Timcsi és Jim (meg mi is:P) Boldog Karácsonyt mindenkinek! marcsi

[Shamudream]

Terrible

[Zsofica]

WHAT?! 'R U deaf?!

[szindiszandi]

A kedvencem voooolt idén!! Gratu! Szandi :)

[emjanos]

Jól Jim, jól!!! Bitang jó voltál!!!!

[Kriszpi]

ezen én is ott voltam:P grat nagyon jók vagytok!

[ShoutHard]

A szavaid nagyon kedvesek! Az egész korusök van nagyon jó! Mindegyiküknek köszönhetően és az úrnak köszönhetően. Thanks for coming! :)

(jol mondom?) :S

[jbwebster]

A nyelvtanod még nem pontos, de érthetjük már amit mondasz. ;)

Your gramar was not perfect, but we already get it. ;)

Just for practice:

1. Sentence: perfect

2. S.:"Az egész kórus nagyon jó!"

3. S.: "Mindegyikőtöknek és az Úrnak köszönhetően."

[emjanos]

Cool!!!!!!! Best choir 4ever....

[Zsofica]

Perfect!

Hey, girl you're singin' sooooo "black" in this song!!! I love it! Wow!