9/11 Un-debunked: Introduction

[thehipsterofnewyork]

Debunker's say "It would have taken months and months to set up the explosives to take down the twin towers!" Ignorantés, you know what? Then how can fire bring down the god damn buildings!

[GGcaptmandrake]

Apart from a loony missile theory, what else do You see fit to be debunked, that He also debunks?...

[citizenfor911truth1]

I care very much about what happened at the Pentagon and Flight 93 and I even have made a video for each of them.Again,there are a lot of theories I don't agree with,so why would I bother defending or addresing them?In terms of theories that should be debunked, I think theories like the "pod" or "fake calls" theories hold little to no merit. It's interesting that RKOwens says there are over 100 theories that are wrong, but he only has about 50 videos addressing them. Where are the other 50+vids?

[GGcaptmandrake]

How many total video's have You made?...This is tit for tat stuff here!

[GGcaptmandrake]

Incidentally: what are the "main" WTC theories that have been debunked, that You think haven't actually been debunked?...

[citizenfor911truth1]

I think the fact that the buildings fell at increible speeds, the fact that residues of thermite have been found, the fact that actual nanothermite has been found, the fact that Building 7 fell in complete free-fall for 100 feet, that fact that explosions can be seen busting out of the towers, are just some theories I think have not been debunked.

[GGcaptmandrake]

Actually: NANO-THERMITE, was only in it's research phase at the time of 9/11! Explosions out of the windows?...You mean the already burning jet fuel, that recieved a sudden burst of air from the crushed windows?...And how is it exactly, that the North tower falling at a rate of 22.02 seconds, and the south falling at a rate of 15.75 seconds is an incredible speed?...Not to mention: that the three buildngs that collapsed that day, ALL recieved catostrophic damage to them!

[GGcaptmandrake]

And: if you watch RKOwens' video on Thermite; You would see that he mentions that the chemical elements of thermite, are common to construction matrerials! You can't NOT have chem signiatures of thermite at ground zero, or any other construction site! You oughtta consider NOT living in a home anymore, because there is thermite in Your house!

[Halo3SpartanY46]

@GGcaptmandrake just to comment on nano thermite this proves it was an inside job then because only people in our gov researching it had access to it and it was indeed found

[stbays]

@citizenfor911truth1 The buildings fell, though the total time it took them to fall was clouded, literally. It was impossible to see the complete collapse through the debris cloud. Which btw, fell faster then the building. "Super free fall"?

Building 7's collapse started internally long before the outer shell finally had nothing to hold it up. The destruction appears to have gone: Gas line rupture > Gas generators > transformers > support columns > internal gutting > external collapse.

[babybluesnowden]

David Ray Griffin has wrote 30 some books and is very literate, accomplished and intelligent. Kevin worked for UL and was directly involved in the NIST report, therefore has first hand knowledge and is credible, why else would they have fired him? for speaking his mind? that right there shows deception is involved and the omission of relevant material.

[unit023]

these "debunkers" are COINTELPRO either wittingly or unwittingly.

[cantonear1968]

Why do you include David Ray Griffin and Kevin Ryan when you mention "Scientific" fact? Ryan is a science "manager" and Griffin is a theologian. Why do their opinions have any scientific merit?

[citizenfor911truth1]

Their opinions have scientific merit for the same reason "debunkers" mention the opinions of Mark Roberts when he is only a tour guide for New York: They know what their talking about. The only difference is that Mark Roberts doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

[cantonear1968]

I don't think Mark Roberts has ever claimed to speak from scientific experience; he has jus been able to gather all the evidence needed to put all these idiotic truther claims to rest.

And doesn't have clue..etc.? I guess that's why Richard Gage is the only one who has ever agreed to debate him and got his ass handed to him!!

[citizenfor911truth1]

watch?v=XdI7CaAR264

Yeah, Mark sure is on the ball.

[cantonear1968]

The chips were soaked in a MEK solution. And they hold the exact same chemical components as per the spectragraph as the primer paint.

Paint.

[citizenfor911truth1]

The chips ARE NOT PAINT FROM THE WTC.If you really watch the video you'll see NIST basically confirmed that. The paint dissolved. The chips did not. The WTC paint was stable. The chips sparked. End of story.

[cantonear1968]

Except that the paint chips that disolved in the Harrit/Jones paper was never verified or even claimed to be the same primer paint used on the steel of the WTCs. For all we know they used a Benjamin Moore product!

And the so called "unreacted theremite" that exploded was tested in an open air environment. Why not test it in a vacuum which would prove that it was thermite?

This paper is an unverified joke. They started with a conclusion and worked backwards.

That's the end of that story!

[GGcaptmandrake]

How are You determining what are the so-called "important subjects" raised by RKOwens4? This is how Your "movement" operates: You overlook/ignore what You regard as "un-important" then say that there is overwhelming evidence to support all of your claims! You can't leave out details in one persons claims, then turn around and leave out details in yours, [claiming that they are "un-important"] and expect to be taken serioulsy! This is why your "movement" died!

[citizenfor911truth1]

I determined what the important issues were because there were a lot of theories RKOwens debunked that I agreed should have been debunked. For example, I do not believe a missile hit the Pentagon, which is why I don't address that theory. Discussions of what happened to the WTC are of the most importance.

[GGcaptmandrake]

"Discussions of what happened to the WTC are of most importance."

So, in other words: You basically couldn't care less of what happened to UA flight 93 or what happened at the Pentagon...Right?...

[tivathehusky]

thank you

[citizenfor911truth1]

No problem

[tivathehusky]

put me onto one of your videos and i'll respectfully hold it down for the next week......

[citizenfor911truth1]

I'm not sure what you mean.