@vleon1012 That's because you're inexperienced with holding the weight there. Much like calluses develop on your hands from DLs and back exercises, they develop there too to cope with the weight being put there. Give it time.
@FieldBoy111 That is a clean. This is a power clean, where the weight is caught in a half squat position. The same applies for the power snatch and the snatch for example.
@DrJuice1 learn how to catch, it's the hardest part, rember to use your legs on the cleaning part, not your back, remember it is not a reverse curl ans SQUAT more often, front squat and atg.
The guy demonstrating has a starting position that's waaaaaayyy too high. As a consequence, the first pull is almost nonexistent and he's doing too much with his lower back and not enough with his legs. I genuinely like Rippetoe, but power cleans are not him at his best. Pendlay and Dan John are better on variations of the Oly lifts.
@BustersTexas so because i don't like cleans makes me a non athlete? first of all its not like i suck at cleans i just dont like them and is that a problem?
he's teaching the power clean, not an oly clean and jerk. the pc has been used forever by s&c coacheswith football players, wrestlers etc... rip is teaching people the pc and not an oly c&j.
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I love deadlifts and squats, but I just can't stand power cleans. Watched many instructional videos then tried the exercise for a month, but every time I do them I feel like it wrecks my shoulders and other joints. Probably doesn't help that I work out at home with very basic equipment on an uneven wooden floor, but enough is enough. Switching to pendlay rows.
Power cleans are not about lifting heavy weights to develop big muscles, they are for developing explosive strength. It helps with your dead-lift too. I've been following this program for 7 months now and its pretty kickass seeing your numbers go up and getting bigger (Though not as big as you could on a 'bulking' routine). Marks diet advice is a pile of shit though. A gallon of milk is too much fat.
@Fluclox500 I have to disagree on the gallon of milk being too much fat. If you are in a strength program, working out consistently hard and with enough intensity, you NEED fat, carbs and all the things that are 'bad' if you are aiming to get 'fit'. Eat tuna til it comes out of your ears.....if you want an easy way to get a tonne of carbs, milk is brilliant stuff.
However, I must agree that power cleans rule (and help your squat and deadlift immensely by pounding the posterior chain!)
@pisswizzard I'm willing to concede the fact that a gallon of milk is good but only if your bulking and have no other source of getting fat, carbs and protein and only if your hitting the weights really REALLY hard or if your a 'hard-gainer'. I do not think it is suitable for beginners though which Starting Strength is really for.
Beginners can benefit more from getting their diet sorted first, discovery which fats are good, bulking vs cutting etc etc Peace.
@Fluclox500 Mister, please. As if the fat from the milk would miraculously turn into fat in your body if u dared to drank it! You'll surely get more flab from excess carbs. The fatty acids in milk are actually healthy and thus the least concern for anybody, much less for a striving bodybuilder! Dieting is of course an another issue. I switched from 1.5% milk to 3.5% milk 'cos of claimed health benefits and it didn't raise my bodyfat one bit - on the contrary :) (Note: milk fat contains CLA!)
@MaximusAdonicus I never stated that the fat from milk would miraculously turn to fat its just a concern but as it is, it turns out that you are right and that I was wrong. I withdraw my comment stating such. Turns out it was bad advice from some well meaning people. I think we both agree though that power cleans are awesome so its all good :-) Peace bruv
@Fluclox500 Agreed on the dietary advice he gives. GOMAD looks good on paper, but I've found it to be far from practical. For a start I hate the taste of full fat milk, and only drink skimmed which is probably healthier anyway. Furthermore, 1 gallon a day is way too much, for me at least. I drink 1.75 gallons (8 litres) a week and even that feels like a lot.
@sbowesuk Very much agreed on the taste of full fat milk, disgusting stuff, and, coincidentally, I only use skimmed milk too (the red lidded stuff here in the UK). I can see where Mark is coming from though. Lots of protein and plenty of carbs are great for putting on size and strength for some guys but for me a gallon a day would have me nice and fat within a month. Bad genes I guess unlike my friend who can eat anything and not gain an ounce (and I do mean anything). Peace.
@Obsidian1392 Then I'll make this simple for you - you disagree with my view and I disagree with yours. Call me single-minded, stubborn, etc, but I've always freely and independently formed my own views on things, and once I've drawn a conclusion that's it, case closed. Nice chatting with you.
@Fluclox500 he advices the gallon of milk to young trainees who have trouble gaining weight...let's be honest, if you want to put on some muscle mass, you're going to end up gaining some fat
again, why are you qualified to make such a statement? is it your canadian beard? your wigger gold chain you wear to the gym? your 400lb deadlift? your ability to kroc row 100lbs?
@kronik85 OK since you feel the need to be a keyboard warrior. I am just stating that his methods did not work for me and probably many other people. His diet advice is pretty bad (GOMAD). I wear that chain everywhere because it was a present and canadian beard is the worst insult I have ever heard. And I also feel the way he teaches the squat is wrong but different people have to find different leverages.
@wormeaful : thats a Full clean you idiot. Rip is teaching a power clean. But i do accept his coaching sucks in power clean. He must restrict himself to powerlifting. He knows no shit about olympic lifting.
@NorwichGrad97 Nowadays every Tom, Dick, Harry, and Mark wants to teach Olympic Lifting. Regardless, Olympic Lifting in American is a joke. Americans SUCK at Olympic Lifting, and our coaches SUCK as well. The last great American Olympic lifter and coach is Tommy Kono. Mr. Kono has Olympic Gold Medals to prove his competence.
For all those who says there is no jump in the PC.. In case you don't realize Rip is not telling anyone to jump.. you're taking 1:16min. out of context .. the "jumping position" is a generalized idea used to coach a lifter on the correct position of the bar
you don't need to jump and he never says so but you need to be in a jumping position but you wouldn't know unless you train with him or read his stuff
There's definitely a jump...the problem is the feet shouldn't leave the ground as much as the individual performing the jump showed. He's not maximizing the "triple extension" in the lower extremities. The ankles, knees, and hips should all experience extension during the movement. If you're feet leave the ground for an extended period of time you're not maximizing your body's potential.
@toserveandpraise88 when you are cleaning light weight the feet can leave the ground or not it doesn't matter.. once you get to clean heavy weight that will take care of itself..not a big deal
@mac2k2020 Good call. I was mainly looking as his knees and feet. I've just seen a lot of instructors teach kids and adults to stomp their feet against the ground before their knees, hips, and ankles are fully extended when they transition from pulling the bar up to getting under it. They're teaching them to re-enact the sound the lifting shoes make by doing that stomping motion and I see a lot of people carrying over that technique into heavy lifts too.
@mac2k2020 True story. But if they can learn to properly execute complete extension with light weight then it will be easier for them to transfer that form over to heavier weight. You can get away with exaggerations with lighter weight but when the weight gets heavier the form needs to be more precise, so I figure why not train with precision with light weight so you won't need to adjust your form when lifting heavier weights. Yeah? Let me know what you think.
@toserveandpraise88 I don't know.... I know a few world class coaches that teach that and their athletes do just fine so I don't think its a big deal plus remember that Rippetoes is not a an olympic coach he is a strength coach , what he teaches is always related to strength training ..
@mac2k2020 Good point. He does produce some super strong athletes. This is however a power movement. Oh well, you're right though, there are many world class coaches who have different opinions and who produce world class athletes. Good convo.
@patrickforrester40 he is in the start position for a deadlift, which is the same as for a power clean. lower hips will not help: at lower depth, he would have to rise to the correct position on the way up. this has a tendency to cause the hip to loosen and to let the bar swing forward
@narcissus79 i realize that. it's still not a jump. after the second pull you reposition your feet. think of it as a jump down to get in better position...not a jump up during the pull like rip teaches. a jump would effectively eliminate your power and make it much harder to get under the bar.
i need help with this. When i do power cleans i have got in a habit of trying to curl the weight instead of jumping under it. Anyway of beaking the habit?
@evilmonkey1192 think about forcing your elbows to stay straight until you jump. old olympic weightlifting saying: "when the elbows bend, the power ends". the arms must be thought of simply as wet noodles connecting your shoulders to the bar. shrug the shoulders and jam the elbows forward, and you will resist the temptation to do a reverse curl.
sorry mark i live in ireland and i never heard of you ,but i wish we had more trainers like you hear ,nobody ( well almost ) teaches proper weight training or power training here in gym s it all ,core and swiss ball and spining and whatever other crap is in fashon ,it seems the basics are left behind...cause they are too much like hard work .these vids are brill thanks
would it matter if your feet are close together or wide? when i go down for the first one my feet are close together and when i come up i make them wide. would it matter if i kept them close together when i come up?
@pinzon1218 if your feet are widening as you come up, that's a way for you to cheat and get under the bar more easily. focus on keeping your feet IN and sending the bar UP.
i wanna ask smth...when the bar is around above his knee, did he hit the bar with his thigh to bring the bar up to shoulder height? can somebody explain to me... :D thanks!
@deadbass89 nah his thigh hitting the bar is a by-product of explosive hip and knee extension thats where the power comes from to bring the bar to shoulder height. If youre interested in learning these lifts i would bother with this vid much its alright for getting the general idea but hes not a great coach at the best of times and only an olympic weightlifter can properly coach the olympic lifts.
Ah man. They're having you max, but you aren't confident in your form? Consider buying Coach Rip's book (see tags). Good job on focusing on your technique first.
The most ive done is 185, im a freshman, 14, im 6'1, 173 pounds.
My form isn't to great though. im wondering on how i can fix it to be able to do more weight can anyone help me? We max at bench, squat, incline bench, and power clean in 2 or 3 weeks, i would like to get 5 to 10 more pounds, help would be appreciated.
just make sure that you keep working on your form and get it as good as you can before you max, even if you need to practice with lighter weight until you get the form down, and use your hips.
@hackingtime88 Well, it also involves squatting every workout. But if you've got a couple years lifting and a good base of strength in your legs, there are other programs that make better use of your work capacity. Still good if your squat is weak though.
Jim Wendlers 5/3/1 program has been making the rounds lately and a lot of people have been having good steady success with it. You could always give that a try. What are your Big 3 numbers like?
Just started it 2 months ago. Squating three times a week will kick your ass. I'm already seeing good gains and growth in my legs especially. Give it a shot.
Yes I started lifting (seriously) Oct 1st. I've gained about 15 lbs since then. I've started adding in pull ups and dips but basically sticking with the routine. I've heard the madcow routine is good but I'm not familiar with it. Just try it for 6 weeks and evaluate.
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Worst fucking power clean I've ever seen. He obviously has never been to an Olympic lifting competition, or he wouldn't be teaching that garbage he calls a power clean.
@ozzysgod44 wtf retard, power clean is just an auxiliary exercise to train the clean and jerk, and snatch, which are the lifts you use in olympic lifting competitions.
I have many question people been giving me alot of different answers, but I wanna know the true, i'm trying to gain weight, "20 pounds" and I only have dumbbells to work with, no barbell, I need workouts to help increase mass, any info, i'm on week 24, i'm 19 yrs old, 150 pounds at the moment, 5'8
workout) that builds POWER(the movement is explosive
as you can see) not STRENGTH as the other exercises you describe. Also if you have good technique you can't hurt yourself in any exercise; you just need to learn the appropriate form.
power clean can be started at any type of clean position. "power" describes where the bar is caught, which is above parallel. Hang clean is a clean which the startign position is above the ground. There are different types of hang cleans. Examples of hang cleans are when the bar starts right below knee and right above knee. The most common hang clean is above the knee starting position.
sorry i didnt mean to be a dick, but there were two people in a row saying the wrong thing. There isnt really a better clean. All type of cleans work different parts of the clean and are all useful.
hey im a sprinter, and i do squats and powercleans along with my upper body excersices on the same day. do you think that the squat and power clean compliment each other. or should i incorperate a different olympic or other leg lift?
Its fine to do it on the same day. I would ask your coach on what lifts to do. IMO hang cleans probably would work better because it emphasizes the second pull of the clean which is more explosiveness. If you are interested in olympic lifts, make sure to get a good coach who can teach you form. There is a steep learning curve.
oh, well i am mch more didcated to track than my coach. hes good, but hes more of a distance guy. i train all year with my brother (collegiate sprinter) and dad gives the weightlifting advice
i started doing powercleans and i watched some videos on it and i think i have pretty decent form. i video taped myself and it didint look bad. i learn form very fast because i am really coordinated.
but i dont know if i want to do hang cleans because wouldnt i get less work on my hammys
Joe, I would say that they're complimentary to each other. Your squats focus predominately on quads and the cleans place a large focus on hams. It's good to work muscles that are antagonistic to one another.
ok, since asking that question i have been doing this. squatting, deadlifting and doing powercleans all on the same day for 5 hard sets each. sound good?
Hey Joe. I'd spreed the big lifts( i.e squats and deadlifts) apart from each other. Overtraining on a particular muscle group can lead to DOMS. Also, your nervous system can't really keep up with overtraining, plus recovery is vital for the big muscle groups like your glutes and quads. Generally a day for me(i do full body 3 days a week plus anabolic cardio like sprints on the off days.) would be
Monday: Squats, cleans, back, bench, and maybe some isolations sprinkled in.
well here is the issue though. i am a sprinter first, and i dont want to and physically cant sprint on off days. it would hurt my running and never give my legs rest
right now i do and have to do leg lifts on sprint days. i lift a couple hours after sprinting to allow recovery. then i do squats, deadlifts, and powercleans. this is the only way i can fit those lifts in. i dont do very heavy powercleans btw, but i do go very heavy and intense on the squats and deads
add deadlift for lower back. Do also an exercise for your core, maybe with swissball or something. And most sprinters look to have some heavy chests? So maybe you just should do the Rippetoe programm? : D
How's it goin Joe. Yeah, I was thinking after I walked away from that post, incorperating lifting with sprints might be tricky. You definitely have the right idea, never ever ever ignore back. That's so damn important so props to you. If your diet is in check(eating a shit ton to support your anabolic, testosterone induced activities haha) then I can understand how squat/deadlifts can be done same day with ample recovery plus lots of rest and water. Do drink lots of water. Muscles are 35% water.
Frag, through my experiences and readings, if you're doing lifts like deadlifts, squats, cleans, push press, and snatches, I would say core work would be a bit redundant in that those big compounds(especially deads) murder your core. In terms of hitting core work a couple weeks before the beach, I'd say go for it, but in terms of practical use, I wouldn't really worry about it. It couldn't hurt, but let that be your last stressor of the day haha.
Yes but Rippetoe says you can add a core exercise twice a week after your first week of the Rippetoe training. It's important because it helps for you to be able to do a bigger lifts :)
I make a lot of improvement, even by 10kgs every time I do the deadlift :) On all exercises I make every work-out a new PR ;)
Yeah. I could see how that would be helpful. Adding a stimulus to any part of the body that is rarely trained will make it grow. But you must agree, compound lifts dominate! haha. Thanks for the polite responses. That's a rarity on this site! :)
i know its been a few months but i have a question. by parallel, do you mean, legs not parallel, as in a squat? and would a squat clean be catching it in a squat?
yeah legs parallel like the squat. I think its when your hip is right below your knee level. Not too sure on that. In the squat clean, you can catch it high in the power position, but ride it down into a squat position would still be considered a squat clean, but yes squat clean you usually catch in the squat position.
I didn't wanna miss out on a excellent lift, looks real fun to me actually. I was sore after practicing for a couple minutes with hang cleans haha, the bar I use to practice is like 15-20 lbs! I need to work on these a lot more, I don't want to start Rippe's without having these down, don't want my other lifts to be wayyy ahead of my powercleans.
Rip is an encylopedia of strength training and witty to boot. And yes, in his 20's/30's he was in excellent shape. He's in his 50's now, if you still fret about having a six pack at that age you need psychological help.
Realistically, Rippetoe's physical condition has absolutely no bearing on the knowledge he has based on thousands of hours of teaching and learning from his pupils. He turns skinny boys in men made of nails. It'd be worth your while to trust what he says.
pretty shit form.
PrometheanRunGood 3 days ago
@vleon1012 That's because you're inexperienced with holding the weight there. Much like calluses develop on your hands from DLs and back exercises, they develop there too to cope with the weight being put there. Give it time.
EndlersaurusRex 1 month ago
mark rippitoe is the fucking man!
leonmichaelang 2 months ago 8
This guy is a great lifting coach.
dogshmog 2 months ago
so this is actually the proper way to power clean ? ive seen people dropping and squatting deeper with this movement .
FieldBoy111 2 months ago
@FieldBoy111 could be wrong but im pretty sure what you saw are called squat cleans.
dimebag4550 2 months ago
@FieldBoy111 That is a clean. This is a power clean, where the weight is caught in a half squat position. The same applies for the power snatch and the snatch for example.
macdicas 2 months ago
For some reason I feel like covering Rippetoe's bald spot with a yarmulke... anyway, great stuff, he's been helping me get all my power lifts down
airrunnerz 4 months ago
@vleon1012 dont catch them on ur collarbones...
ur elbows probably arent high enuff. u want the bar on ur delts
rpmmafia1 4 months ago
@DrJuice1 learn how to catch, it's the hardest part, rember to use your legs on the cleaning part, not your back, remember it is not a reverse curl ans SQUAT more often, front squat and atg.
spartan1081990 5 months ago
5.
Lardballman 5 months ago
i wish i could power clean. i'm so TERRIBLE at this lift...i just can't grasp the coordination.
DrJuice1 5 months ago
"Mark Rippletits" hahaha
I0o 5 months ago
The guy demonstrating has a starting position that's waaaaaayyy too high. As a consequence, the first pull is almost nonexistent and he's doing too much with his lower back and not enough with his legs. I genuinely like Rippetoe, but power cleans are not him at his best. Pendlay and Dan John are better on variations of the Oly lifts.
iloton 5 months ago
Mark Rippletits
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89306GREKA 6 months ago
NO "PERFECT PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT."
MeRamboAnd 7 months ago
man this guy is fucking flexible ... HOW?!?
BnfPre 7 months ago
@BnfPre When there is a shit load of weight pressing down on you, you will bend whether you want to or not.
l3a11er 6 months ago
the guy lifting reverse curls the weight
freshdeals27 7 months ago
I found the perfect power clean vid, search "pyrros dimas power clean".
asss2grass 7 months ago
those who can, do; those who can't, teach.
mistersupermannohere 7 months ago
i hate cleans
KingofPho75 8 months ago
@KingofPho75 and your probably not that great of an athlete either anything that takes effort makes improvment
BustersTexas 7 months ago
@BustersTexas so because i don't like cleans makes me a non athlete? first of all its not like i suck at cleans i just dont like them and is that a problem?
KingofPho75 7 months ago
@KingofPho75 why dont you like it? you're not making any sense
jakebrigand 7 months ago
@jakebrigand i think its the fear of dropping the weight cause when i go past 225 i starting getting scared.
KingofPho75 6 months ago
don't you have to have to when the bar hits your shoulders and you come up?
arrowxhead3p 8 months ago
rippetoe says the power clean is easier to learn than a front squat
collwatt 9 months ago
he's teaching the power clean, not an oly clean and jerk. the pc has been used forever by s&c coacheswith football players, wrestlers etc... rip is teaching people the pc and not an oly c&j.
MikeDowling77 9 months ago
"Jumping"
I can't believe people listen to this shit.
CcGameDKR 9 months ago
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Sambo8000 10 months ago
I love deadlifts and squats, but I just can't stand power cleans. Watched many instructional videos then tried the exercise for a month, but every time I do them I feel like it wrecks my shoulders and other joints. Probably doesn't help that I work out at home with very basic equipment on an uneven wooden floor, but enough is enough. Switching to pendlay rows.
sbowesuk 10 months ago
Power cleans are not about lifting heavy weights to develop big muscles, they are for developing explosive strength. It helps with your dead-lift too. I've been following this program for 7 months now and its pretty kickass seeing your numbers go up and getting bigger (Though not as big as you could on a 'bulking' routine). Marks diet advice is a pile of shit though. A gallon of milk is too much fat.
Fluclox500 11 months ago
@Fluclox500 I have to disagree on the gallon of milk being too much fat. If you are in a strength program, working out consistently hard and with enough intensity, you NEED fat, carbs and all the things that are 'bad' if you are aiming to get 'fit'. Eat tuna til it comes out of your ears.....if you want an easy way to get a tonne of carbs, milk is brilliant stuff.
However, I must agree that power cleans rule (and help your squat and deadlift immensely by pounding the posterior chain!)
pisswizzard 11 months ago
@pisswizzard I'm willing to concede the fact that a gallon of milk is good but only if your bulking and have no other source of getting fat, carbs and protein and only if your hitting the weights really REALLY hard or if your a 'hard-gainer'. I do not think it is suitable for beginners though which Starting Strength is really for.
Beginners can benefit more from getting their diet sorted first, discovery which fats are good, bulking vs cutting etc etc Peace.
Fluclox500 10 months ago
@Fluclox500 Mister, please. As if the fat from the milk would miraculously turn into fat in your body if u dared to drank it! You'll surely get more flab from excess carbs. The fatty acids in milk are actually healthy and thus the least concern for anybody, much less for a striving bodybuilder! Dieting is of course an another issue. I switched from 1.5% milk to 3.5% milk 'cos of claimed health benefits and it didn't raise my bodyfat one bit - on the contrary :) (Note: milk fat contains CLA!)
MaximusAdonicus 10 months ago
@MaximusAdonicus I never stated that the fat from milk would miraculously turn to fat its just a concern but as it is, it turns out that you are right and that I was wrong. I withdraw my comment stating such. Turns out it was bad advice from some well meaning people. I think we both agree though that power cleans are awesome so its all good :-) Peace bruv
Fluclox500 10 months ago
@Fluclox500 Agreed on the dietary advice he gives. GOMAD looks good on paper, but I've found it to be far from practical. For a start I hate the taste of full fat milk, and only drink skimmed which is probably healthier anyway. Furthermore, 1 gallon a day is way too much, for me at least. I drink 1.75 gallons (8 litres) a week and even that feels like a lot.
sbowesuk 10 months ago
@sbowesuk Very much agreed on the taste of full fat milk, disgusting stuff, and, coincidentally, I only use skimmed milk too (the red lidded stuff here in the UK). I can see where Mark is coming from though. Lots of protein and plenty of carbs are great for putting on size and strength for some guys but for me a gallon a day would have me nice and fat within a month. Bad genes I guess unlike my friend who can eat anything and not gain an ounce (and I do mean anything). Peace.
Fluclox500 10 months ago
@sbowesuk 8 litres a week is nothing dude... you may think 1 gallon a day is too much but 8 litres a week is too little
Obsidian1392 10 months ago
@Obsidian1392 Then I'll make this simple for you - you disagree with my view and I disagree with yours. Call me single-minded, stubborn, etc, but I've always freely and independently formed my own views on things, and once I've drawn a conclusion that's it, case closed. Nice chatting with you.
sbowesuk 10 months ago
@Obsidian1392 i try to drink a gallon a day 2 during hell week for football
ZeroInhibition 9 months ago
@Fluclox500 he advices the gallon of milk to young trainees who have trouble gaining weight...let's be honest, if you want to put on some muscle mass, you're going to end up gaining some fat
trecuck 6 months ago
i noticed that a lot of these power cleans focus on pulling the weight higher rather than dropping your hips quickly under the bar...
RisingStars 11 months ago
Don't get sand in yer vagina but in his book Tommy Kono says power cleans are worthless.
middlemanoftime 11 months ago
do the feet have to come off the floor?
fukidomev2 11 months ago
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why wont this balding old faggot fuck off and die
buttfiendz 11 months ago
all you nerds out there shut up and go workout. this guy knows his shit and he is doing the exercise the right way.
madeinamerica650 11 months ago
as a strnegth and conditioning coach riptoe is as overrated as they come
thegamexxx1234 1 year ago
@thegamexxx1234
yeah, and who are you and your clients?
kronik85 11 months ago
@kronik85 ok i take that back he is good for beginners and low intermediates
thegamexxx1234 11 months ago
@thegamexxx1234
again, why are you qualified to make such a statement? is it your canadian beard? your wigger gold chain you wear to the gym? your 400lb deadlift? your ability to kroc row 100lbs?
kronik85 11 months ago
@kronik85 OK since you feel the need to be a keyboard warrior. I am just stating that his methods did not work for me and probably many other people. His diet advice is pretty bad (GOMAD). I wear that chain everywhere because it was a present and canadian beard is the worst insult I have ever heard. And I also feel the way he teaches the squat is wrong but different people have to find different leverages.
thegamexxx1234 11 months ago
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@thegamexxx1234
yeah, and who are you and your clients?
kronik85 11 months ago
im doin bigger faster stronger and this is the most fun lift. besides box squat cuz its easy to get a nice number
stgabesbball31 1 year ago
I love these. I'm just beginning Starting Strength, and I gotta say; I love deadlifting, but this might be my favorite lift in the program.
DahStoryTella 1 year ago
Why does my lower back hurt every time i do the power clean, someone help!?
KurdishFaris 1 year ago
Keyboard Samurai's attack!
Shabangum 1 year ago
is the power clean just a hang clean with a deadlift
businessim08 1 year ago
ehhhhh.... the only conclusion I drew from this video is that mark rippetoe has no clue how a power clean is performed.
qualm43 1 year ago
@qualm43 You know your lifting. M.R. has no clue about these movements, but does have a shitload of coolaid drinkers.The pie-eyed piper , lol.
MrSticksb 1 year ago
this is horrible technique...you have to catch the weight at the lowest point and then front squat it up
wormeaful 1 year ago
@wormeaful that would be a "clean", this is a "power clean" meaning it is caught anywhere above parallel
BackSquat42 1 year ago
@wormeaful : thats a Full clean you idiot. Rip is teaching a power clean. But i do accept his coaching sucks in power clean. He must restrict himself to powerlifting. He knows no shit about olympic lifting.
TheSuperber 1 year ago
Rip is a strength coach, NOT an Olympic Weighlifting coach. His 'triple extension' jump and shrug is pure BS.. There is NO jumping in Oly.
NorwichGrad97 1 year ago
@NorwichGrad97 Nowadays every Tom, Dick, Harry, and Mark wants to teach Olympic Lifting. Regardless, Olympic Lifting in American is a joke. Americans SUCK at Olympic Lifting, and our coaches SUCK as well. The last great American Olympic lifter and coach is Tommy Kono. Mr. Kono has Olympic Gold Medals to prove his competence.
bsumiko 1 year ago
@bsumiko what about joe dube ,lee james,bob bednarski and ken patera
themetalgod21 1 year ago
He sucks big time.
13andincrediblycut 1 year ago
@13andincrediblycut fag
titans091052 1 year ago
@titans091052 Shush.
13andincrediblycut 1 year ago
@titans091052 Big time loser...
13andincrediblycut 1 year ago
@13andincrediblycut No your a fag.
rtibia2 1 year ago
Not to mention he's also a sexist bastard.
13andincrediblycut 1 year ago
He's a horrible person and he's not funny. His coaching sucks, and he clearly doesn't know how to do any thing exercise related.
13andincrediblycut 1 year ago
For all those who says there is no jump in the PC.. In case you don't realize Rip is not telling anyone to jump.. you're taking 1:16min. out of context .. the "jumping position" is a generalized idea used to coach a lifter on the correct position of the bar
you don't need to jump and he never says so but you need to be in a jumping position but you wouldn't know unless you train with him or read his stuff
mac2k2020 1 year ago
There's definitely a jump...the problem is the feet shouldn't leave the ground as much as the individual performing the jump showed. He's not maximizing the "triple extension" in the lower extremities. The ankles, knees, and hips should all experience extension during the movement. If you're feet leave the ground for an extended period of time you're not maximizing your body's potential.
toserveandpraise88 1 year ago
@toserveandpraise88 when you are cleaning light weight the feet can leave the ground or not it doesn't matter.. once you get to clean heavy weight that will take care of itself..not a big deal
mac2k2020 1 year ago
@mac2k2020 Good call. I was mainly looking as his knees and feet. I've just seen a lot of instructors teach kids and adults to stomp their feet against the ground before their knees, hips, and ankles are fully extended when they transition from pulling the bar up to getting under it. They're teaching them to re-enact the sound the lifting shoes make by doing that stomping motion and I see a lot of people carrying over that technique into heavy lifts too.
toserveandpraise88 1 year ago
@toserveandpraise88 the stomping of the feet is an exaggeration of the movement
often coaches use this kind of techniques to teach certain things and if you can carry that over to heavy weight then maybe it's not that heavy :)
mac2k2020 1 year ago
@mac2k2020 True story. But if they can learn to properly execute complete extension with light weight then it will be easier for them to transfer that form over to heavier weight. You can get away with exaggerations with lighter weight but when the weight gets heavier the form needs to be more precise, so I figure why not train with precision with light weight so you won't need to adjust your form when lifting heavier weights. Yeah? Let me know what you think.
toserveandpraise88 1 year ago
@toserveandpraise88 I don't know.... I know a few world class coaches that teach that and their athletes do just fine so I don't think its a big deal plus remember that Rippetoes is not a an olympic coach he is a strength coach , what he teaches is always related to strength training ..
mac2k2020 1 year ago
@mac2k2020 Good point. He does produce some super strong athletes. This is however a power movement. Oh well, you're right though, there are many world class coaches who have different opinions and who produce world class athletes. Good convo.
toserveandpraise88 1 year ago
@mac2k2020 well not everything his bench press is a bodybuilding bench press.
This power clean is very useful to get the bar in posistion to do front squat without a squat rack.
SGTcrackey666 1 year ago
@SGTcrackey666 why the hell would you?
DeliciousPoop 1 year ago
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@DeliciousPoop what? perhaps some people have to work out at home and cant afford all the equipment needed.
SGTcrackey666 1 year ago
@DeliciousPoop what? maybe some of us dont have access to a gym and cant afford the equipment that is needed.
SGTcrackey666 1 year ago
did anybody think his hips should be lower?
patrickforrester40 1 year ago
@patrickforrester40 Yes, I agree.
toserveandpraise88 1 year ago
@patrickforrester40 he is in the start position for a deadlift, which is the same as for a power clean. lower hips will not help: at lower depth, he would have to rise to the correct position on the way up. this has a tendency to cause the hip to loosen and to let the bar swing forward
Egendomlighet 1 year ago
lol @ everyone who is telling this guy hes wrong but cant lift half as much as the guys hes trained.
0TheGatekeeper0 1 year ago
sorry rip, there is no jump.
mmamilano 1 year ago
@mmamilano you can hear the guys feet thump against the ground..
narcissus79 1 year ago
@narcissus79 i realize that. it's still not a jump. after the second pull you reposition your feet. think of it as a jump down to get in better position...not a jump up during the pull like rip teaches. a jump would effectively eliminate your power and make it much harder to get under the bar.
mmamilano 1 year ago
shit this is interesting, i hadnt thought about when i was supposed to jump at all
BatrocTheLeaper 1 year ago
i need help with this. When i do power cleans i have got in a habit of trying to curl the weight instead of jumping under it. Anyway of beaking the habit?
evilmonkey1192 1 year ago
@evilmonkey1192 Increase the weight so you are forced to get under it.
derbyd1 1 year ago
@evilmonkey1192 Shrug with your traps the last moment, and flick your elbows up real fast!!!
funk192 1 year ago
@evilmonkey1192 think about forcing your elbows to stay straight until you jump. old olympic weightlifting saying: "when the elbows bend, the power ends". the arms must be thought of simply as wet noodles connecting your shoulders to the bar. shrug the shoulders and jam the elbows forward, and you will resist the temptation to do a reverse curl.
Egendomlighet 1 year ago
@evilmonkey1192 or visulaise ur arms as whips, so as ur momentum comes up ur hands are "flicking" underneath
narcissus79 1 year ago
sorry mark i live in ireland and i never heard of you ,but i wish we had more trainers like you hear ,nobody ( well almost ) teaches proper weight training or power training here in gym s it all ,core and swiss ball and spining and whatever other crap is in fashon ,it seems the basics are left behind...cause they are too much like hard work .these vids are brill thanks
wexfordmma6 1 year ago
I've been considering foregoing rows, which Rip says suck and replacing them with Power Cleans.
eurohim 1 year ago
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everything that has to do with mark rippetoe totally suuuuuuuucks..... DONT WATCH THESE AMERICANS
glockpop1 1 year ago
@glockpop1 Shut up pussy.
HoustonKJ 1 year ago 5
@glockpop1 agreed
trinity9011 1 year ago
Nice form - he's a solid lifter. And Ripptoe is a great coach! Thank you for this post.
bsumiko 1 year ago
chuck norris?
rmt1 1 year ago
would it matter if your feet are close together or wide? when i go down for the first one my feet are close together and when i come up i make them wide. would it matter if i kept them close together when i come up?
pinzon1218 1 year ago
@pinzon1218 if your feet are widening as you come up, that's a way for you to cheat and get under the bar more easily. focus on keeping your feet IN and sending the bar UP.
Egendomlighet 1 year ago
why are his feet so close together????
KingDrudge 1 year ago
why are his feet so close together????
KingDrudge 1 year ago
i wanna ask smth...when the bar is around above his knee, did he hit the bar with his thigh to bring the bar up to shoulder height? can somebody explain to me... :D thanks!
deadbass89 1 year ago
@deadbass89 nah his thigh hitting the bar is a by-product of explosive hip and knee extension thats where the power comes from to bring the bar to shoulder height. If youre interested in learning these lifts i would bother with this vid much its alright for getting the general idea but hes not a great coach at the best of times and only an olympic weightlifter can properly coach the olympic lifts.
trinity9011 1 year ago
what kinda work does this do for your body?? like explosiveness or what?
knewok 1 year ago
@knewok yes, explosiveness is the reason to do this instead of just doing squat cleans
duskwalker2 1 year ago
@duskwalker2 ok what else is good for explosiveness like this? name all you can think of please. im guessing stuff like clean and jerk or deadlifts?
knewok 1 year ago
@knewok power snatch, hang clean, hang snatch, thrusters, split cleans, split jerks, push jerks, push presses, etc.
duskwalker2 1 year ago
@duskwalker2 nice thanks lots, but what are split cleans, split jerks, push jerks??
knewok 1 year ago
Ah man. They're having you max, but you aren't confident in your form? Consider buying Coach Rip's book (see tags). Good job on focusing on your technique first.
VandelayCostanza 1 year ago
The most ive done is 185, im a freshman, 14, im 6'1, 173 pounds.
My form isn't to great though. im wondering on how i can fix it to be able to do more weight can anyone help me? We max at bench, squat, incline bench, and power clean in 2 or 3 weeks, i would like to get 5 to 10 more pounds, help would be appreciated.
jacobizspivey123 1 year ago
Drink milk and squat.
louieecarter 1 year ago 38
@louieecarter you forgot the oatz.
PatrikDC 10 months ago
chances are if you fix your form you'll be doing less weight, not more, not right away anyway
markyxsparky 1 year ago
just make sure that you keep working on your form and get it as good as you can before you max, even if you need to practice with lighter weight until you get the form down, and use your hips.
good luck :)
corryallday4673 1 year ago
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i clean 175 is that good for me being 5'7" 135 pounds
fullyflared1995 1 year ago
i might start the rippetow training program, but i am not liking only working 3 days a week
hackingtime88 2 years ago
@hackingtime88 Well, it also involves squatting every workout. But if you've got a couple years lifting and a good base of strength in your legs, there are other programs that make better use of your work capacity. Still good if your squat is weak though.
viator22 2 years ago
i have been lifting for a few years. what are some good programs?
hackingtime88 2 years ago
Jim Wendlers 5/3/1 program has been making the rounds lately and a lot of people have been having good steady success with it. You could always give that a try. What are your Big 3 numbers like?
viator22 2 years ago
If you've truly been lifting for a few years (like consistantly) than you won't need to know any programs.
p00ned131 1 year ago
true, i usually do my own stuff each workout just listen to my body. but i do look at workout programs to copy their reps and sets.
hackingtime88 1 year ago
Just started it 2 months ago. Squating three times a week will kick your ass. I'm already seeing good gains and growth in my legs especially. Give it a shot.
ctfam 1 year ago
are you over all bigger?
cause i am thinking of doing the bill star madcow routine.
hackingtime88 1 year ago
Yes I started lifting (seriously) Oct 1st. I've gained about 15 lbs since then. I've started adding in pull ups and dips but basically sticking with the routine. I've heard the madcow routine is good but I'm not familiar with it. Just try it for 6 weeks and evaluate.
ctfam 1 year ago
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Worst fucking power clean I've ever seen. He obviously has never been to an Olympic lifting competition, or he wouldn't be teaching that garbage he calls a power clean.
ozzysgod44 2 years ago
TROLL!
co05 2 years ago 2
do you have to go up with the weight after cleaning?
Jean1juan 2 years ago
@ozzysgod44 wtf retard, power clean is just an auxiliary exercise to train the clean and jerk, and snatch, which are the lifts you use in olympic lifting competitions.
ogarza2 2 years ago
@ozzysgod44 and you have? lol
southstar0511 1 year ago
@ozzysgod44 youre right he has no business coaching olympic lifts, he should stick to coaching the bench press haha
trinity9011 1 year ago
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I have many question people been giving me alot of different answers, but I wanna know the true, i'm trying to gain weight, "20 pounds" and I only have dumbbells to work with, no barbell, I need workouts to help increase mass, any info, i'm on week 24, i'm 19 yrs old, 150 pounds at the moment, 5'8
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pronation1 2 years ago
is that dutch lowy demoing?
JRoss245 2 years ago
This is a very good ALL-BODY exercise(not an arm
workout) that builds POWER(the movement is explosive
as you can see) not STRENGTH as the other exercises you describe. Also if you have good technique you can't hurt yourself in any exercise; you just need to learn the appropriate form.
psolarhidi 2 years ago 2
man you don`t understand nothing! thats a part of crossfit! nothing for "I-go-to-the-gym-to-talk-and-make-some-bullshit-curls!" guys!!!
hamptidamptixx 2 years ago
This just answered so many questions. Thanks for the video!
DKerelchuk 2 years ago
learning these are kind of frustrating haha
CorpseGrinder18 2 years ago
Im actually glad you are taking the time to learn cleans, a lotta people just fag out and stick to rows
Alyion 2 years ago
what's the difference between power cleans & hang cleans
joshuab1815 2 years ago
Power clean - pulled from floor
Rack clean - pulled from rack
hang clean - weight is elevated and not pulled from the floor (cleaned at thigh height)
Alyion 2 years ago
power cleans is lifting the bar off the ground
hang cleans are when the bar is racked on a curl rack at about knees and then lifted
power cleans are better
joecandito 2 years ago
wrong
kickdim 2 years ago
power clean can be started at any type of clean position. "power" describes where the bar is caught, which is above parallel. Hang clean is a clean which the startign position is above the ground. There are different types of hang cleans. Examples of hang cleans are when the bar starts right below knee and right above knee. The most common hang clean is above the knee starting position.
kickdim 2 years ago
i stand corrected
sorry about that
but i was basically right. do you agree that power cleans are better
joecandito 2 years ago
sorry i didnt mean to be a dick, but there were two people in a row saying the wrong thing. There isnt really a better clean. All type of cleans work different parts of the clean and are all useful.
kickdim 2 years ago
its alright.
hey im a sprinter, and i do squats and powercleans along with my upper body excersices on the same day. do you think that the squat and power clean compliment each other. or should i incorperate a different olympic or other leg lift?
joecandito 2 years ago
Its fine to do it on the same day. I would ask your coach on what lifts to do. IMO hang cleans probably would work better because it emphasizes the second pull of the clean which is more explosiveness. If you are interested in olympic lifts, make sure to get a good coach who can teach you form. There is a steep learning curve.
kickdim 2 years ago
oh, well i am mch more didcated to track than my coach. hes good, but hes more of a distance guy. i train all year with my brother (collegiate sprinter) and dad gives the weightlifting advice
i started doing powercleans and i watched some videos on it and i think i have pretty decent form. i video taped myself and it didint look bad. i learn form very fast because i am really coordinated.
but i dont know if i want to do hang cleans because wouldnt i get less work on my hammys
joecandito 2 years ago
Joe, I would say that they're complimentary to each other. Your squats focus predominately on quads and the cleans place a large focus on hams. It's good to work muscles that are antagonistic to one another.
kurtzrepublican 2 years ago
ok, since asking that question i have been doing this. squatting, deadlifting and doing powercleans all on the same day for 5 hard sets each. sound good?
joecandito 2 years ago
Hey Joe. I'd spreed the big lifts( i.e squats and deadlifts) apart from each other. Overtraining on a particular muscle group can lead to DOMS. Also, your nervous system can't really keep up with overtraining, plus recovery is vital for the big muscle groups like your glutes and quads. Generally a day for me(i do full body 3 days a week plus anabolic cardio like sprints on the off days.) would be
Monday: Squats, cleans, back, bench, and maybe some isolations sprinkled in.
kurtzrepublican 2 years ago
well here is the issue though. i am a sprinter first, and i dont want to and physically cant sprint on off days. it would hurt my running and never give my legs rest
right now i do and have to do leg lifts on sprint days. i lift a couple hours after sprinting to allow recovery. then i do squats, deadlifts, and powercleans. this is the only way i can fit those lifts in. i dont do very heavy powercleans btw, but i do go very heavy and intense on the squats and deads
joecandito 2 years ago
add deadlift for lower back. Do also an exercise for your core, maybe with swissball or something. And most sprinters look to have some heavy chests? So maybe you just should do the Rippetoe programm? : D
Frag1ty 2 years ago
thanks for the info, but if you read my latest comment i do say i do very heavy deadlift with my squats and powercleans now.
everybody is responding to my oldest comments because utube has the newer comments placed lower on the screen
but yeah, sprinters do need to be pretty jacked, i already have a really great lifting program.
i might do some swissball excercises like you mentioned
joecandito 2 years ago
How's it goin Joe. Yeah, I was thinking after I walked away from that post, incorperating lifting with sprints might be tricky. You definitely have the right idea, never ever ever ignore back. That's so damn important so props to you. If your diet is in check(eating a shit ton to support your anabolic, testosterone induced activities haha) then I can understand how squat/deadlifts can be done same day with ample recovery plus lots of rest and water. Do drink lots of water. Muscles are 35% water.
kurtzrepublican 2 years ago
Frag, through my experiences and readings, if you're doing lifts like deadlifts, squats, cleans, push press, and snatches, I would say core work would be a bit redundant in that those big compounds(especially deads) murder your core. In terms of hitting core work a couple weeks before the beach, I'd say go for it, but in terms of practical use, I wouldn't really worry about it. It couldn't hurt, but let that be your last stressor of the day haha.
kurtzrepublican 2 years ago
Yes but Rippetoe says you can add a core exercise twice a week after your first week of the Rippetoe training. It's important because it helps for you to be able to do a bigger lifts :)
I make a lot of improvement, even by 10kgs every time I do the deadlift :) On all exercises I make every work-out a new PR ;)
Frag1ty 2 years ago
Yeah. I could see how that would be helpful. Adding a stimulus to any part of the body that is rarely trained will make it grow. But you must agree, compound lifts dominate! haha. Thanks for the polite responses. That's a rarity on this site! :)
kurtzrepublican 2 years ago
i know its been a few months but i have a question. by parallel, do you mean, legs not parallel, as in a squat? and would a squat clean be catching it in a squat?
XDeuce1 2 years ago
yeah legs parallel like the squat. I think its when your hip is right below your knee level. Not too sure on that. In the squat clean, you can catch it high in the power position, but ride it down into a squat position would still be considered a squat clean, but yes squat clean you usually catch in the squat position.
kickdim 2 years ago
I didn't wanna miss out on a excellent lift, looks real fun to me actually. I was sore after practicing for a couple minutes with hang cleans haha, the bar I use to practice is like 15-20 lbs! I need to work on these a lot more, I don't want to start Rippe's without having these down, don't want my other lifts to be wayyy ahead of my powercleans.
CorpseGrinder18 2 years ago
Rip is an encylopedia of strength training and witty to boot. And yes, in his 20's/30's he was in excellent shape. He's in his 50's now, if you still fret about having a six pack at that age you need psychological help.
di1an 2 years ago 9
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i hear rippetoes the best. but why does he look out of shape... practise what you preach?
P4T1L33 2 years ago
Realistically, Rippetoe's physical condition has absolutely no bearing on the knowledge he has based on thousands of hours of teaching and learning from his pupils. He turns skinny boys in men made of nails. It'd be worth your while to trust what he says.
celconicuzn 2 years ago 62
was he at one point in good shape?
P4T1L33 2 years ago
@celconicuzn
though, it does bear mentioning that he can deadlift 405x8 even at the age of i think 50
kettlebellconvert 1 year ago