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  • Before a fetus has a brain I can't see how it can possibly be considered a person. All conscious life is in the brain. Consciousness is the mark of life and the root of the transcendental subject.

  • I am so happy you had those moments with your baby.Its sad that there are babies aborted everyday that when born where going to be perfectly healthy.A life is a life and everyone should know that.

  • A women should have a right to have an abortion. Cruel or not. If abortion is made illegal think of how many mothers are going to do dangerous abortions! It's fine if you don't want to have one, but don't make others just because of you're beliefs or personal views.

  • lack of life= lack of love :) prolife for life!

  • who the hell thumbed down on this!?!?!

  • This is so sad but I think its always better to give unborn babies a chance to live.

  • @arxmen3 At least the baby died naturally and not at the hands of an abortionist. The mother can live the rest of her life knowing she did all she could for the child rather than have blood on her hands.

  • How many kids have you adopted?Kids are languishing in foster care.Unwanted children are neglected by their mothers and develop psychological problems because they were not loved as children The documentary Freakanomics describes how the indirect result of Roe v. Wade was a 10-30% drop in crime during the 90's. the opposite example of how abortion became illegal in Soviet countries is where they saw a skyrocket in crime.You can force women to have kids, but you cant make them care for them.

  • @SeeMoreGlass89 My partner's mum was adopted out, and then her mum found her a few months after adopting her out and took her back. After 43 years, she still suffers from HUGE commitment issues and fear of rejection(stemming from the adoption and knowledge that her mother didn't want her, initially. This has been confirmed by a psychologist), even though she was only adopted out for a few months.

  • This is a very touching story, and I'm glad this woman took the best from a bad situation.

    However, imagine if she couldn't financially support a child, or if she wasn't emotionally ready/wanted a baby. People who get pregnant accidentally and are forced to keep the child despite not wanting/being ready for it are people who become neglectful and cruel parents. Props to her for *choosing* to keep her baby, but everyone should have a *choice*.

  • @arualsuga

    Imagine if YOUR mother couldn't financially support YOU. You wouldn't be here fighting for CHOICE, now would you?

    "Props" to you for fighting for CHOICE, but everyone should be entitled to a lifetime of opportunity for experience, blessings, and CHOICES.

  • @bakakurisu If my mother was in that situation, I would hope that she made her own CHOICE based on her own feelings. If I was in that situation, I would CHOOSE not to have the child and wait until I was READY for a child that I was confident I could fully provide for. And when I do decide to have children, I hope that they are entitled to a lifetime of opportunity, experience, blessings and CHOICES - including the CHOICE of what they do with their own body.

  • @arualsuga Watch "Silent Scream - Excerpts from the Classic Film - Dr. Bernard Nathanson". You will see the child literally fighting for his life against the knife and vacuum (I won't spoil the end, but you can probably guess who wins).

    Is that what you would want to have happen to you or your child?

    Look up Gianna Jessen, Ana Rosa Rodriguez, Heidi Huffman, Baby Grace, and Ximena Renaerts.

    You can probably guess how they feel on the issue.

    I don't care what you do with your OWN body.

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  • @arualsuga You dodged my question, while at the same time contradicting your position.

    Do you concede that you support ONE CHOICE to take away an ENTIRE LIFETIME of choices (including the choice to take away an entire lifetime of choices if said lifetime happens to be of a female) while contesting the dis-allowance of ONE CHOICE to take away an entire lifetime of choices (including the choice to take away an entire lifetime of choices if said lifetime happens to be of a female)?

    Yeah...

  • A woman's pregnancy is her decision and between her and her doctor. Not the United States government or its public. The CHOICE of having an abortion or NOT HAVING one should be there.I really don't understand why women have to be a sacrificial lamb, only valued for their womb when their life is endangered in pregnancy or even when their life would fall apart with a child. Answer me: why is a baby's life worth more than a woman's? Better yet, what happens to a child born to an unwilling mother?

  • @SeeMoreGlass89 IGNORANCE statement

  • @swordseller1 an ignorant statement that you can't refute? I'd love to hear why my statement was an "ignorance statement."

  • @SeeMoreGlass89

    A child's life is its OWN; not the mother's or the doctor's.

    Having a child makes a woman a "sacrificial lamb"? Who's getting butchered and sucked out of the womb with a vacuum?

    Who says a child's life is worth more than a woman's? We're not fighting to have women murdered, here. We're trying to stop children from being murdered.

    What happens to a child born to an unwilling mother? Ask ANY child that has been adopted. Can you tell them that they don't deserve to be alive?

  • Thank you for this video,

    I actually had a conversation with my wife last night about this very topic, I told her she was crazy for not being willing to have an abortion if the Dr. said the baby would die.

    I'm a total retard, when she gets home tonight, I'm going to tell her I'm sorry and that I was wrong.

    Thank you for this video, (I'm tearing up as I write this), they do really work,

  • @valegorn Yes, because abortions are ONLY done to save a woman's life.

    According to Johnston's Archive, 0.2% of abortions are done with the intention to save the life of the mother.

    However, 480 physicians have signed a public declaration stating: “I agree that there is never a situation in the law or in the ethical practice of medicine where a preborn child’s life need be intentionally destroyed by procured abortion for the purpose of saving the life of the mother.”

    Condolences to your wife.

  • @bakakurisu have you heard of an ectopic pregnancy?it's when the fertilized egg implants in somewhere else than the uterus.It is a medical emergency where a woman can die from severe internal bleeding.There are several diseases where a fetus(LIKE THE ONE IN THIS VID) will definitely die within the first year of life.It should be a CHOICE from the mother to decide whether or not she is willing to deal with the heartbreak of delivering a stillborn/mortally ill child OR if she decides to abort it.

  • @bakakurisu I'm not sure I follow you, but thanks?.......

  • My condolences to this mother...that is a very emotional story. However, I don't think that having a disabled baby for 30 days really entitles you to go around talking to people about how hard it is to have a special needs child. What about the downs syndrom adult patient I cared for. He was completely immobile. Couldn't walk. Couldn't talk. Incontinent, with a catheder. Had to be spoon fed every bite of his food, which had to be purade like baby food. Is that fair???

  • @sara420H

    Perhaps you can explain to him why he doesn't deserve to live.

    ...I'm sure he'll understand.

  • Yeah, when I was a kid I wanted to be vegatarian because I saw Bambi..

    Why don't you people grow up ?

  • @PoliticalHell,

    As if you have an IQ. Are you another one of those trolls with daddy and mommy issues! Stop acting like a loser and get a life!

  • @Thetruuth1 I hate to break it to you, but everyone has an IQ. Oops! Did I just troll you again? Aww, maybe you should respond and troll back... again.

  • Maybe the world doesn't need another mouthy Atheist, but at least that's one less mouthy - and dangerous - religious fanatic to worry about. I may be against the whole idea of shadowing the mind and ("God" forbid) pro *objectivity*, but at least I'm not trying to destroy our society and culture with irrational and illogical religious crap. Oh well, everything has ups and downs I suppose.

  • @PoliticalHell,

    You just proved the level of your IQ...

  • @icimblind And you yours. Let's break it down. "The starving kids are the result of your sin not to feed them." I wasn't aware that this is somebody's responsibility. Perhaps the people that had the kids should have considered the fact that their kids might suffer? Why didn't god give them a brain to think that through? "God didn't create any evil." If god is all-knowing and all-mighty, he could most certainly eliminate it. Or maybe he just enjoys it too much... or maybe he's just not real.

  • @PoliticalHell,

    If you're looking to make a point perhaps you should read all the posts instead of flinging ignorance. Just like you the last person was finger pointing, so my point was what has he done to resolve the problem? It is common sense that nothing is always going be perfect in this world. Accidents happen, ppl starve, ppl drown, etc.. The moral person would reach out and do what they can. God works through every one, but you have to be open to Him. How much have you been open?

  • @icimblind Oh stop being such a hypocrite. If you really cared so much you would be in Africa feeding the starving kids yourself. So what if you don't, does that mean your a sinner and you're going to hell? Why are we so submerged in a world of problems if it should be god's creation?

    I've been open to other people's ideas (that's why I bother coming to videos like this) to try to understand why people believe. It's a mystery to me and I'm trying to find even the slightest logical connection.

  • @PoliticalHell,

    You're the hypocrite, because you have no idea what charitable organizations I invest in! You're not open or you wouldn't invest in so much empty language. You find logic in the absence of love and truth. What an oxymoron. What can atheism boast of? I want to hear it. And the word "almighty" isn't spelled all-mighty. I don't think you invested any effort in seeking beyond the physical. Why am I wasting my time? Open, please!

  • @icimblind Wrong use of "hypocrite".

    Sorry if my words aren't good enough for you, but who am I to compete with fairytales.

    Logic isn't love, nor truth. Logic is the way of thinking to get a rational answer. Logic is reasoning beyond faith, and poking into doubt until it disappears, or wrongs old beliefs.

    We are physical constructs. The universe is physical. There's also the mind, which fascinates me, but that's just another science (Psychology). Why not understand the real before trying...

  • ...to make up logically unsupported theories about the surreal? "Beyond the physical realm" is nothing but a bunch of chemical reactions in the brain, and yes, that includes drugs. Why are you wasting your time? How should I know, but if you care to waste more, please explain the "non-physical realm". I'd be very happy to hear what you have to say.

    Almighty and all-mighty have different meanings. Either would have fit, but you figure it out.

  • P.S. Atheism isn't a means to get pride or boast about anything. It's just the way things are for people who's minds cannot accept faith without rational explanation. I for one do not accept anything as fact until I understand how and why it works that way. Most of the time, anyway. Science gives me answers, religion gives me a book and says "trust me, it's true". I say, "why?"... and that's where I get no answers.

  • @PoliticalHell Our ignorance will be judged one day by the man appointed by GOD . He died for mankind so that they may live through HIM who was raised from the DEAD

  • @swordseller1 Of course! If only I heard this before. I'm totally convinced now, thanks.

  • @PoliticalHell,

    You assume a lot.  You can not get reason without truth. Tell me what you know about that has been studied by scientists in religion? What have they studied and have no answers for? Btw, science was largely created by Christians. They've contributed a lot to the discipline. I don't think you've explored very much science in religion...

  • @icimblind Well for one, everything. What did as assume? Only that there is no non-physical realm. Why? Because there is no reason to believe otherwise. If you convince me, I will happily make the transition to believe it, but that's my whole point, nothing convinced me yet. What evidence is there? Where are all the signs that point to it? If you were never taught Christianity, would you figure it out for yourself? I don't think so.. it's basically your word against mine with no backing to it.

  • @PoliticalHell,

    You assumed there was no scientific research on the spiritual, and you can't name any of that research. Look on my playlist if you want to learn. If I wasn't raised Christian, I would still be morally obligated to look for the truth, and would want to find out as much as I can. What were you raised if you don't mind me asking?

  • @icimblind I'm sure there is "research on spirituality, but keep in mind what it means to be scientific... it means *observations* are used to create hypothesis.

    I will definitely check out your playlist. I'm not trying to jump to conclusions, I hope that's not what it seems like. I want to know the truth as much as you or anyone else, that's why I bother talking about it.

    @ your question, my father was catholic, but he doesn't pursue it and I wasn't raised towards any particular religion.

  • @ofelixdacat,

    "There are plenty or areas that prove his existence""

    The image of Our Lady of Guadalupe(476 yrs old), the incorrupt bodies of saints, of the Holy Eucharist for starters. Prove there is a hell?well that's easy. You need to attend an exorcism. Or start praying out loud in a gay parade. You'll see if the devil exists. And for the last time. God didn't create any evil. We are open to it from the fall of humanity. The starving kids are the result of your sin not to feed them.

  • @icimblind My IQ dropped reading your comment. I'd suggest that you think before you post next time, but there is no hope for you... your "god" really fucked up on you I guess.

  • @PoliticalHell,

    Just got a glimpse of your channel. Another mouthy atheist, just what the world needs. Grow up, punk!!

  • this video won't play past 1:50 for me, can anyone please tell me what happened after her baby was born?

  • @grapefruitm00n Anyone who takes another person's life should be put to death. How can you compare an innocent unborn baby to a monster that murders a person in cold blood.

  • @1954phyllis

    Without delving too deep (I've learned to keep personal business to myself on the web), I've changed some views since I posted a year ago...not saying I agree with you, not saying I don't. That's all.

    PS

    Why did u not focus on my views about the mentally ill, homeless and poor? Just sayin'

  • Unborn babies have the right to live. Abortion is murder.

  • abortion is absolutely wrong under "normal" circumstances

  • This is truly an amazing video i have ever seen for pro-life. It is my prayer and my hope that God will continue to bless this young woman <3

  • most abortions are used as birth control - "inconvenience"

  • people will argue that if the baby is just gonna die why force the mom to live through that but look at this woman, she knows how to value what cannot be touched - what truly matters in life. bless her.

  • You are an inspiration...You are My hero-Im not pregnant but you taught me not to give up on anything always have hope

  • VERY good, VERY powerful!!!!! Thank you VERY much for posting this - and all of your other pro-life postings!!!

  • jmccracken1963, thank you very much for your comments!

  • What an amazing testimony! Thank you Lord.

  • She opened her legs, she chose life! Women who have sex must be forced to give birth.

  • our thoughts exactly. did you know that 1/3 of women that get abortions are atheists and 1/2 of those under 21

  • oh my god

  • I'm not a christian. In fact i'm a pagan. But i will stand the barricades against abortion with the christian people. Abortion is not a choice, it is killing a child.

  • I know I'd never even be able to consider abortion. It's all about personhood, as soon as that baby is conceived it is a person, it is your child.

  • Pro-Choice people are Nazis they have no morals and need to open their eyes and see what they are really supporting.

  • Something for you 'Pro-Choicers' to think about

    Abortion is legal in todays society, but mass genocide of the Jewish population was legal in Hitlers Germany.

    Its not about whats legal, its about whats MORAL - and the killing of an innocent child, no matter the circumstances, is IMMORAL.

  • she was beautiful!

  • lol, have you ever expeirienced loving a child? hold the baby in your arms with so much love for the baby? you feel like youll do anything for the baby?

  • and if I can give advice from experience things work out I'm now married and my daughter is three and she has a little brother and she has a wonderful life it wasnt easy for awhile but I have never regreted my decision she had the right to a life just because I messed up didnt mean she was going to pay for it. Things work out and things with my family worked out as well. making the desision to have a child is never an easy road but it is worth all the bumps..

  • chiller2107, thank you very much for your excellent comments and May God Bless your family! Your comments will surely help others! regards...

  • Apparently everyone has the same conditions as you and fits under the same circustances so it is "worth the bumps" for every individual? haha thats a joke...so many women find themselves in unique situations that they have no control over and you wouldn't have a fucking clue what that is like

  • Every woman has to make a choice and I use to be a strong supporter of abortion untill I became pregnant and your right everyone has a unique situation and I'm not saying its right or wrong to have an abortion but dont let that be your only option and that there is hope and I made the right decision for me and I would never change it no matter what and for me it was worth all the "BUMPS" and maybe for someone else the decision would be diffrent.

  • chiller2107, congratulations on your child, but it is never right for a mother to deliberately kill her own child. God has not given the mother the right to do so...

  • I am glad you said this Rosaryfilms. God has not given any mother the right to kill their own child, even in cases of rape. What did the innocent child do to get a death sentence? It amazes me how people just give up on God. He can bring good out of any bad situation.

  • icimblind, thank you for your excellent comments! regards...

  • @icimblind If God was so great, then that women wouldn't have been raped and gotten pregnant from it in the 1st place. There's millions of children in Africa who are starving with no parents, no home, no food, no shoes,and even no clothes. If your God was so great then why would he allow this to happen? Nice try.

  • @ofelixdacat,

    Why do people like you always blame God for the evil in this world? You are the type of person who blames God for disease, death, rape, drug abuse, murder, starvation, etc. We are not living in a sinless world. We are living in a fallen state with a free will. Free Will to do Good or Evil.. And it is obvious from your statement that you choose to do evil. ofelixdacat, blame the evils of humanity on God so you can justify your demonic Pro-Baby-Killing agenda. Nice try!

  • @icimblind I'm not blaming "God" for anything since I don't believe in a God. People like you point to god when you have no logical explanation or cant justify anything. & you did answer my question. If your God was so great & powerful, he could help all the orphaned starving children in Africa, but he isnt, instead he is letting them starve & die, & putting even more homeless starving kids into the world. Miscarriages kill babies too, yet your god lets it happen. Who kills babies? Your God does

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  • @ofelixdacat,

    You really don't understand anything, do you?  Ok, according to your logic, you are still blaming a God you don't believe in. Nice... So if the rich neglect the poor, it is Ok to kill the innocent?? That's what you are saying??

    God works through the free will of the people He created. So all evil belongs to those who choose to neglect to do good, like pro-choice abortionists.

    Miscarriages are the result of a fallen state, not an evil God.

  • @icimblind Its clearly u who doesnt understand what Im saying. Im not blaming your god which I dont believe in, Im questioning him. Miscarraiges can happen to any women, even if he is perfectly healthy, so how is that a result of a fallen state or free will? She didn't freely choose to have a miscarriage. Clearly your god isnt so powerful or great, since he cant or wont stop them from happening. And why is he letting kids starve in africa yet letting more kids there be born into poverty?

  • @ofelixdacat,

    Do you even understand what a "fallen state" means?

    I am not even going to answer your starving kids in Africa broken record statement, I've already answered this.

  • @icimblind You talk so high of your God, yet you clearly dont know much about him, nor can you answer any of my questions. Prove there is a god, I dare you, because you can't. According your your belifes, aborted babies go to heaven since they don't get a chance to use their "Free Will" & commit a sin, so whats bad about that? Isnt that what you want for you kids? Isn't that why you are religious? So you and your kids can go to heaven? If so, you'd be pro abortion.

  • @ofelixdacat,

    If you want to learn something about God, go to my site. There are plenty of areas that prove His existence. Things that science doesn't have an answer for. But there is one catch, you have to be respectful it I am to pm you with this information. Your analogy of free will is very weak. Obviously most of the world gets it. God doesn't put people in Hell. You choose it. I just looked at your YT pg. I can see now why you are having trouble accepting God in your life...

  • @ofelixdacat,"aborted babies go to heaven since they don't get a chance to use their "Free Will" & commit a sin, so whats bad about that"?

    Because God had a purpose for them in this world. He gave them life. They were murdered, and their mothers could go to hell. That's what's bad about that.

    Is it fair for Hitler to have the same reward as Mother Teresa, heaven? ofeilxdacat, there is a hell. God is not going drag ppl to heaven kicking & screaming. ppl choose hell.

  • @icimblind The idea that your "God" would give people free will then punish people to an eternity in hell your using it is pretty silly and stupid. That's like giving a kid a loaded gun and expecting him never to use it. Why give it to him in the first place? A god who would condem his child to an eternity of torture is not an "All Loving" God at all. Who invent death? Your god.

    You can keep blurting out your religous banter all you want, but without logic, your argument is flawed & invalid.

  • Chiller2107's husband first of all the only situation involving babies that a person has no control over is if the individual is raped. Then i believe that a abortion is understandable but dont wait on it, get it done right away. Second thing if a woman open her legs and has sex willingly that is 100% controlled Jack ass. They also have other methods that work. Instead of ripping a perfectly innocent baby out of you. It is not there fault. U play u pay, plan and simple. I consider it murder.

  • one tradegy should not result in another tradegy.

  • I was a senior in high school when I found out I was pregnant I had been dating a guy that as soon as I told him I was pregnant left he couldnt get to the door fast enough and I can remember telling my mom and how she told me that I needed to give her up for an adoption or have an abortion and I couldnt do either one and I didnt get much support I was the shame of my family and how having the baby was the end of my life but it was really the beginning and I made right decision for me.

  • sam81383, thank you very much.

  • Pro life is something I care very strongly about and just do not understand how people can think that having an abortion is the right choice. This video makes you look at life differently and really sends out a message. Pro-life is the right choice!

  • This video is an example of pathos. When I watched this video there were so many emotions running through my mind. This video touched my heart and made me feel so many different emotions. Like others have said, this video is very inspirational.

  • This is such an inspirational video. I get a lot of flak for being a man who is pro life, people say well you dont know what its like to make that decision you never will and so forth. But as a man it is my fundamental duty and right to protect women and children. I believe this is the main reason god put men on this earth. So my response is always, how can i not stand up for this. it is this generations duty to protect the next. I will always be pro-life. As will every child of god.

  • godsingscountry, thank you for your excellent comments!

  • Its a chain reaction. If more men were like you less women would get pregnant outside of a good godly enviornment. More children would be raised better simply by having god and parents to love and love them. Then as the children got older they would have better morals, so less early unlanned pregnancies. People belive we went forward, but we went backword. I am lucky enough to have a husband like you who also believs in his duty. There are not many of you left.

  • I never knew what it was like to make such a decision until a couple of months ago. I chose my baby to live because my baby deserves a chance at life; this video is inspirational :-)

  • waterhands20, your comments are even more inspirational! Thank you very much and congratulations on your new baby! -- you will never regret keeping your baby! Regards...

  • abortion = anti-woman

    abortion = baby killing

  • @beabekham how in the hell is abortion anti-women?

  • There is NO reason to kill a baby. NO REASON. It shouldnt even be an option. If someone gets on your nerves can you kill them? If someone you dont like comes around, can you kill them? Babies arent a mistake, they are gifts from God. A human life is never a mistake, and its NEVER THE BABIES FAULT. So why take it out on them?

  • the abortion debate comes down to whether one considers a fetus to be a life. If one uses the bible as reference, a forced miscarriage is NOT treated as murder.

  • They should show videos like this in schools. Instead, they're too busy having spokeswomen from Planned Parenthood coming in and speaking to kids. Just horrible.

  • why would they have videos like this at school. not every one is against abortion. i think that in schools they need to tell children ALL of there options, not just one or the other.

  • Not everyone accepts homosexuality as a "normal" lifestyle alternative, either, yet they are teaching kids at school that it is.

  • it's not killing an unborn baby. the mother may not want a child at the time.

    one thing to think about is if the baby has a defect that will making living difficult, why do it? why subject it to a life of torture & a feeling of inferiority? plus, when you die, who's going to take care of it? what if they can't get a job? then what?

  • What if the child has a defect that is discovered when it is only 3 months old. Should be just 'put it to sleep' then, too? To kill a child - born or unborn - over a defect that may inconvenience the mother is nothing less than a selfish act of murder.

  • So your only argument to killing an unborn baby is a hypothetical. Sad. Here's a hypothetical for you, what if that child was allowed to live and became the person to develop a cure for cancer or aids or a way to end world hunger or help create lasting peace? Then what?

  • So your only argument that supports killing an unborn child is a hypothetical? Sad. Well here's a hypothetical for you. What if that baby was born and became the person who created a cure for cancer, or aids, or a way to end world hunger, or was able to help bring peace? Then what? Also, if the mother didn't want to have a child at the time, she already had the Choice not to have sex. A life isn't an inconvenience, it's a gift.

  • Her story is almost similar to mine in the beginning...but i had a miracle baby...he's beautiful and healthy and now 4 months old. Im so glad I gave him a chance to live. He's my world!

  • bbycakez12, congratulations on your baby boy and thank you very much for sharing your experiences! Regards...

  • O.K., I posted something here about a month ago stating that it is understandable if someone is raped and decides to abort their unborn. I also have stated before, that this is what I think and "the choice is yours to make, not mine". I am not making decisions for anyone, only encouraging them to make a good one. Just because I am pro-life does not mean that I will be making choices for everyone, get the facts right.

  • Obama actually wants to pass a bill that underage kids dont even need parental consent to have an abortion.McCain 08.Life begins at conception.

  • Seriously people are we stupid. No exeptions. Life begins at conception.

  • Really people, lets start "saving" lives.

    *pro-life*

  • wanna start saving lives? stop the warmongering, stop selling guns, stop making anti-personnal mines.

  • I'm doing my part in making the right choices MisterBlague..I'm not selling guns, I'm not aborting any babies and I'm sure as hell not making mines. The point is for everyone join in. "4.5 billion heads are better than one".

  • Euthsnization of a fetus is not murder, murder is an illegal killing, but given the chioce myself I would probably choose to be euthanized instead of prolonged suffering. So I would make a chioce (out of love) to have my fetus humanly euthanized. It's a personal chioce I would never put my wants, fealings, or desires defore the wellbeing of my fetus at anytime.

  • Dothia, murder is murder -- ask the Jewish community, whose murder of 6 million members of their community by the Third Reich was legal. The unborn baby never stops being a human being, regardless of the circumstances, and the person who murders such, never stops being a murderer.

  • Not everyone would make her chioce, the Doctors where not completely wrong this infants condition odviously made her unable to sustain her life for long. If it was me I would have chose C-section and euthanization.

  • Dothia, euthanization is an euphemism for murder.

  • it's really sad, im crying.

    godbless.

    &...

    R.i.p baby!xxxxxxxxx

  • Oh, and just to help you out, rosary. I thought I would educate you on your misuse of legal terminology.

    You see MURDER implies killing that is illegal. ABORTION IS LEGAL (thank God) and so it is not murder.

    You sound so uneducated using improper terminology over and over so I thought I should help you out.

    I know you WISH it were considered murder, but wishing and what is are two different things.

  • So are were and was.

    Who looks uneducated now?

  • SillyNeNe, murder of the Jews was legal in the Third Reich. Murder of various human beings have been legal throughout history in various states and nations. "Thou Shalt Not Kill" is independent of what state or nation you are in. The Jews were MURDERED in a nation where it was legal to MURDER them. When you deliberately kill an innocent human being, then that is called MURDER. As far as education goes, you should not be lecturing anyone about education.

  • Sorry rosary, but it is still just plain old killing no matter how you want to falsely rationize it. Murder implies against the law. In my opinion (and that of the world), the Holocaust was heinously tragic. But in THAT country, you are right. It was legal and so it was not considered to be murder. It went against our laws and so WE considered it to be murder as a nation. Our nation does not consider abortion to be murder as a whole. Sorry.

  • SillyNeNe, no, you are incorrect. The Jews were MURDERED by the Nazis. It is not an opinion or relative matter. If you disagree, why don't you post a video telling that world that the Jews were not murdered? You will not, because you know that you would be wrong -- just like you know that you are wrong with regards to abortion.

  • SillyNeNe killing is killing.

    40 million babies have been killed since the federal case of Roe vs Wade. Now I wish that those 40 million unborn babies hadn't been killed. But as you say wish and what is are 2 different things, and what is the fact is 40 million deaths have gone unnoticed by ignorant people such as yourself due to the definition of the word "murder". A definition of a word in a dictionary doesn't make it any different then what it is.

  • I'm going to go now. My husband is online so I'm going to chat with him. If you have anything else to say, emma, I won't turn the responses away.

  • Imerica, I hope your husband is doing well. My son's were in the Infantry, and they spent a year in Iraq. My Dad was in the Air Force, my entire time growing up, and he was gone alot. I hope you have support from family, because I know it was hard on my Mom. I know it is hard taking care of 5 girls, because I have 4 sisters and a brother, and we were 1 to 2 years apart. My brother was the baby and when my Dad came home, his son did not know him. Thank goodness for the internet!

    Good night.

  • Yes. You can say that again. And thank you for being cordial. AND for the well-wishings. Also, thanks to your sons and your father. They're cut from a special cloth, they are. :)

  • And I see you never answered this question...

    I'd never do that. That's really irresponsible thinking, IMO. I have a few friends who aren't able to bare children and NOT because they've had abortions in their lives. It's because of things like endometriosis and one has Turner's syndrome that prevent that from happening for them. Are you s serious?

  • Just because they said they did not have an abortion, doesn't mean they are telling the truth. Do you really think doctors want to tell you the abortion that you have had, may later keep you from having kids? Can I say "TRIAL LAWYER"! It's easier to just make up a new disease, and say it is something other, then "YOU ABORTED A HEALTHY BABY" and now you have screwed your body up!

    "When there are over 1 million abortions a year, the odds that your friends had one, is pretty much a good bet".

  • How judgemental are YOU really? There are women BORN WITH TURNER'S SYNDROME, EMMA. Do you even know what the disease does to a woman's body? Well? Of course not because you'd figure that any woman who has problems concieving has had an abortion. I have a friend who has fibroids so frequently that it prevented her from having children at all. Does that mean that she had an abortion? I think you need help.

  • Judgemental? I think that would be YOU! Are you a doctor? My sister went through many miscarriages before she had a baby. My friend tried for 10 years to have a baby! Both had abortions? Hmmmmmm.....Anyone who knows how to use their brain, might think there could be a possibility, that "having a abortion" and "not being able to have children" might have an connection!

  • Hmm..& I know 3 women personally who all had abortions (one had 2) in their teens & have gone on to later get married & *gasp* have children. How could that be? ANY procedure has risks and/or POSSIBLE side effects. (possible being the key word here) EVEN GIVING BIRTH! I have c-sections. Trust me I am at MUCH greater risk having another child than I am having a simple suction 1st trimester abortion. (I've had D&Cs w/miscarriages & walked out 2hrs later. Can't say the same about my c-sections!)

  • Answer the question, Emma. Do you know what causes Turner's Syndrome and what the symptoms or the sickness entails? OR is everything having to do with the women's reproductive system failing to carry children due to someonen having an abortion in your eyes?

    No, I'm no doctor, THAT'S WHY I DON'T TELL WOMEN WHAT'S RIGHT OR WRONG WITH THEIR BODIES! But You may think YOU are a doctor. Passing judgement on women you don't know.

  • Imerica1, NO! I'm not a doctor, but I do know they give names to things, that could be corrected if they just eat healthy! If you drink sodas(even diet), eat junk food, then don't expect to have a healthy body. At 53, I went to school where, maybe 3 were over-weigh, now you are lucky if 3 are healty! How many of your friends live off of Diet Coke?

  • Remember YOU are the one who told me to ask my friends who aren't able to have children if they've had abortions. I didn't bring that up ....you did. That's an invasive question to ask someone you're supposed to call a friend. If I'd collapsed one day because of heat exhaustion, you'd probably attibute it to my having an abortion. The reality is that you know NOTHING about the many OTHER reasons why there are women who can't have children. You're just using that argument to base your opinion on.

  • I'm not arguing with you about it. I gave you my opinion.....You don't have to agree with it.....but it does not mean I am wrong, either!

    "If I collapsed of heat exhaustion...."...That wasn't a very good reply....

  • That wasn't an opinion, emma ...it was a backward assumption that you knew why a few of my friends can't have children. THEN you had the nerve to tell me to ask them if they've ever had abortions. HOw is that a valid opinion?

    Oh, and perhaps my reply wasn't a good one, but it got your attention. However, you're basically saying that if a woman is infertile that she's had an abortion when you have no idea what her problem may be. What are you clarvoyant?

  • What? You've got my attention? You do realize, that we have been having a dialouge for quite awhile, don't you? I don't think "attention" is the word you should have used.

    I'm saying "MAYBE".....you're saying, that I said "It HAS to be it"! Quit putting words in my mouth, so your disagreement makes sense!

    Please do not blame me, if you are not close enough to ask a personal question of your "so called" friends. Even if it might help them. I guess you would rather be..............RIGHT!

  • Trust me, I know EVERYTHING about my friends. Those who HAVE had abortions...didn'thave problems concieving children. Those who DIDN'T and have other reasons for infertility unfortunately DID have problems concieving. I think you're the one who is off base.

    I don't want to be right. I'd rather that you not tell me that my friends who can't have children can't have them because they 'in your opinion' had abortions. That's unfounded because YOU don't know them.

  • Imerica1, I do not sit in front of the computer waiting for you to reply, so you are just going to have to wait for an answer, sometimes. Some people have to work!

    I am not a doctor, but in our past history, some parts of our country had no doctor! People use to figure out what to do, OR they just DIED! We have brains! Some of us do not believe everything that is told us! How many times have you seen a trial lawyer on TV, ask you to contact them, if you've used a drug,so they can sue?

  • Actually, I didn't ask you if you had to work or anything like that. I asked you to answer the question because you obviously had enough time to look it over and skip it to reply to another response I made.

    So again, since you have time... What is Turner's Syndrome? What is Endometriosis? And what causes them?

  • I'm sorry, next time I will answer your questions in order....But I was still not here to answer your question......

  • My answer is......What? If "I" want to know what it is, then I'll look it up....I don't want to and I don't care what they are....so....get over yourself! They are your friends not MINE! If my friends had this problem, I would want to know about it, but they DON'T! Is this a classroom, and do you think you are my teacher? You're getting pretty boring......

  • You are the one who said that my friends' reasons for not being able to have children are the results of them having abortions when they never had one. And you're right, they are MY friends,not yours.

    I stilld ont' understand why you're bashing me when I respect everything in this video.

  • Imerica, No I didn't! I said "MAYBE"! What if I am right? You have daughters....Don't you want to know "everything" you can, so you can do whatever it takes to protect them?

    You do realize that, that is how discoveries are made. It's done by people who do not except everything they are told, and by not being closed minded? If it were not true, we would still think the earth is flat!

  • Emma, you just professed to me that you said "Maybe" now it's "What if I'm right"? Looks like its you who wants to be correct.

    And you're being closed minded.

  • Like I said, I have nothing against this video and it's message. It's all in the delivery. If you're comfortable with telling women YOUR version of the truth, no matter how much it hurts them, for the sake of being right, do that. But I'll continue not to judge women I don't know when it comes to WHY a woman has an abortion. I'll tell her if she asks what it was like for me, then I'll let her make her own decision. LIke I said before,its not my job to raise a grown woman.

  • Imerica, You seem like a very nice person, and I appreciate it, that you do not use foul language like so many on here. Why don't we "AGREE" to "DISAGREE"? I don't want to be correct. I said what IF, I am right. I did not say I WAS right.

  • It's not her fault, lmerica...blindness and obstinance are common side-effects to being pro-life. She cannot help herself. (and YES, needs help!)

  • But, I truly hope you read over everything I posted. I didn't just share all that for my own reading.

  • I'm done.

  • "this really isn't even a debate for me."

    I noticed, believe me.

  • "Good luck. I think you posess qualities which show potential once you grow up."

    I'm sorry to say that really doesn't mean much coming from you.. =/

  • "First correct and logical statement you have uttered. Congrats! Your mother would be so proud."

    Furthermore, I have argued with nothing but simple reason, factual counter arguments, and a little insight of my own.

    I have made my best effort, too, to use proper grammar and to speak in clear, concise words.

    My only conclusion is that you are incapable of seeing reason when it is present because you lack any yourself.

  • "I have argued with nothing but simple reason, factual counter arguments, and a little insight of my own.

    I have made my best effort, too, to use proper grammar and to speak in clear, concise words."

    And what have I done? Used incorrect grammar, spelling...used none of my own insight?

    My only conclusion is that you are incapable of seeing reason when it is present because you not only lack any yourself, but you are too young to have enough true life experience to know any better.

  • "And what have I done? Used incorrect grammar, spelling...used none of my own insight?"

    You've comma spliced, misspelled countless words, used poor grammar..

    AND, to add to the mix, you've injected much more immaturity than I would expect from someone your age, you've shouted in caps to prove a point that had nothing but the caps, and you've continued to insult me when I counter your arguments.

    Shall I continue?

  • "My only conclusion is that you are incapable of seeing reason when it is present because you not only lack any yourself, but you are too young to have enough true life experience to know any better."

    I'm sorry that you're truly one of those--for lack of a better term--"idiots" who will ignore EVERYTHING someone says because they're older than them.

    You really are incapable of reason. You're also incapable of thinking for yourself as you had to copy me, out of context I might add.

  • UnFunnyNeNe, So anyone who does not agree with you is wrong? How is it, you are so informed on abortions. Is it from personal experience? Or is it your profession, as a abortion doctor? Or are you just a KNOW-IT-ALL!?? I do know Abortion is Big Business now, so I guess it would not be good for your purse, if people quit having abortions. I find it very sad, that you seem to get joy out of demeaning people who are upset at the fact that babies are being killed!