@KurdBooon This is not kurdish music your morron! Its pure lori middle-persian music of greater IRAN. Fuck all of you ugly jealeus kurds, and piss on your fake Kurdistan! LOL
Ahantabarzin ..You are a shit Farsi racest >.You lost your language and now your language is Arabic in 80% of it . Iran is not belong to Fars people ..it is opur land also. You are just a minoriti in Iran ..Our Kurdish nation is in all divided country between Iran and Iraq and Turkey is about 40 milion people. Lors are Kurdsk they are belong to our great nation. But also that is right that Fars are our cousen.
FYI, all this song is Laki not Lori, except 5:00 to 5:50 that is Luri!!! Laki is a dialect of southern Kurdish. laks live in Lorestan, Kermanshah, and Ilam providence. And, also some of Laks were immigrated to Khorasan, Fars, Klardasht, and Qazvin. the number of Laks in Iraq is more than Iran, and one of deputies of Iraqi Kurdistn government is lak Kurdish.
@Garudaa The Lors are Persians (Pars) in their original form and as you can see there's is nothing Arabic in this video. However, could the same be said about Kurds in Turkey? Have they not lost themselves to the Turks? I live amongst them and I have NEVER heard them speak Kurdish to eachother. Could the same be said about Kurds, Lors, Taleshi, Baluchi, etc in Iran? Of course not!!
Lors may say what ever they want they are losers. Kurds and Kurdistan are important. KURDISTAN call them Kurds it means they are KURDS. No discussion no comment no pm nonething. LUR=Kurd for ever.
My brother ,don't give up Your nation. Kurds are one of the great Arian nations. We had MED Empire, and now we struggle in rest of our land( Kurdistan) to freedom.We build in South of Kurdistan ( Kurdistan of Iraq)our first step to free Kurdistan. You are a part of our nation. You can't change the truth.
please stop coming on Lor videos and swear at Persians and call Lors Kurdish. It is embrassing to read all these B/S posted by these nationalistic Kurds on EVERY SINGLE LUR VIDEO.
Ew kesey gutî min Êranîm wate Caşe Xaîne Dij be Kurde Dij be Kurdistan'e înca eger ew kese min bim, daykim bêt bawkim bêt ya her kesêkî dîke bêt. Ême her hemû Kurdîn we hîçî dîke nîn ca tikaye wellamî ew kesa xellefawane meyenewe. Supas. Bijî Kurdistan.
tu dayki khot bawke you are doing your dayk any way az korde irani bum lor ham korde irani bu tu wa ky=ey dary jashek yahoodi iraqhi hara dayk khot beka
NimaSun jan It is Hard for a Losser Azeri to understand that Lurs are Kurds. Because you guys are Losers. I know your Persian/Arain(propaganda) Pride makes you so patriotic to be Iranian(Persian) But how sad is that If you understand That not All Indo-Iranian nations Are LOSERs and Assimilated like you : ). By DNA: You are Kurd By Culture: you are Caucasian(like Georgian)By Language:You are a Turk. How Sad! it is expected for you to call yourself just Iranian because you are a LOSER azerbaijani.
Look at Their Faces! They loooooook So Kurdish they look like US a Kurd from Diyarbekir/Amed looks the same, a Kurd from Eleziz looks the same! even long long away from Luristan. Luristan was always ruled by Kurds.Their DNA is Kurdish. Persian clothes look more like Arabic clothes of UEA hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Arabic Khliji Clothes hhhhhh and their dances too hhhhhhhhhhhhh UAE( united arab emirates=pure arabic) I Swore you do not see any defference from them and the Persian clothes. with all my respect
Instead of swearing give evidence to suggest that Lors are Persians and not Kords or Lors are just a different race from Kords. Tell us about their language how close is it to Persian or close to Kurdish. Do not tell us about words, because of Lori vocabularies are exactly Kurdish and the verb conjugation is Kurdish. If you have any supporting evidence splash it out here and stop this thing about Iranians BECAUSE Iran has only benefited the Persians and no one else. Period.
Go back to your villege and stop posting on youtube you uneducated tramp! or even better instead of chatting shit on the net like a little girl, go to LORESTAN and call them KORDS!
KimariSherawi, if mighty Iran had not fallen to the sword of Islam then Kurdistan would not have been "char parcha" as you say it. Kurds are Iranians and Iran is not only Persian. By cursing Iran you are cursing yourself. Wake up as NimaSun wrote.
Dear ''EastBrahimLodi''---->I 1005 agree with what you said..If a Kurd insults IRAN,he is actually insulting himself! because Kurds are pure Iranian-ethnics.
It is true that Kurds are part of a group of Iranian people BUT Iran is not. It has been the sole owner of the Persians who confiscated everything, claiming all things to be of Persian origins and if it was not they would say it's Iranians. That's why most Kurds do not feel comfortable with this We Are All Iranian slogan thing. Do you like an Iran ruled by Kurds and official language is Kurdish, which is by far more purer than Persian / Arabic language you speaking.
Sikismekataturk stop going around and B/S. I'm an Iranian lur and we are NOT kurds. As much as KUrds are close to Persians they are close to Lurs. Stop wasting your time spreading B/S.
NimaSun, Iranzamin is not only Fars or Kurdistan and where you draw the line is unimportant. What counts is where the Kurdish and other Iranian peoples draw the line. You can't accuse other Iranians who don't want to subordinate themselves to Persians of being "sellouts".
You contradicted yourself. You say its up to the people yet at the same time say my opinon is not important. Am I not included in your list of "Kurdish and other Iranian peoples"?
Also I'm against anyone being "subordinated" and I'm not Farsi.
NimaSun! My dear friend! I could not stop thinking knowing you are targeting a great friend, a Cultured person as EsatBrahimLodi as a misunderstanding! Please be careful on detail or else you will fall into same trap as our friends did!
The republic of Mehabad was a Russian plot, just like how they separated Arran and Shirvan, which later became to be known as Azerbaijan. They had the same plan for Gilan and Mazandaran as well.
You are a tool.
Kurd = Iran.
You are a sellout, stop selling your self and culture.
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I dont now way the lors are refysing to be Kurds, but if the lors dont want to be Kurdistani they must not, is a free chooise. biji pesmerge biji pkk. na arabem na tyrkem na iraniem wale kurd kurdistaniem. biji Kurd
Your 42 and you don't know this? What the hell have you been doing with your life for the past 42 years? You aren't even familiar with the most basic facts, how the hell are you going to run a country?
I don't know what kurds from Iraq want here, They can't undrestand a word of Lori and Lori culture and just say some idiotic things. We are Lors and we are proud to be Iranian. Therefore do yourself a favour and find your destiny somewhere else. me loressoniem va kheili ham sim eftekhara keh Iraniem. A bra meni, khaterem diri khahesha makem...baghishe khoto donid.
Why do ill-informed, uneducated people take it upon themselves to post on public forums?
Do you think other people are as stupid as yourself?
From my 24 years of experience on this planet I can tell you with full confidants that its very dangerous calling a Lori person a Kurd or anything else.
Try and rule yourselves first, come out from under the yoke of the Turks and Arabs and THEN start making such elaborate claims.
santoshasong im not Iraqi! and i will not be! Im a Kurd-Kurdistanian! from Sivas is my land to Urmia! from Erdehan is my land to the Persian Gulf, it means your luri lands too! Luristan kurdistan haste, Lorha kord hastand! ma kord hastim yani Madha. So everybody as you, must shut up dear. We will Say Lors=Lors when you read your own language in Schools! now your Slaves of Persia/Iran! in Kurdish(Median): slave:Nokar,Dardast,Karakar.
Iran=must be 10 countries! We dont want Iran(Persia) We refuse to be slaves of this Persia! We want our lands from Mako to the Persian Gulf whole western iran without Arabic lands.
you are iraqhi do not talk a bout iran we are lor kords are not lor and you are a jewish kord go and talk a bout israel and arabs ma LOR HASTIM KORD NISTIM
ahntabarxin we kurds only interested in 2 parts which they really are one, and thats Kurdistan + Lorestan it belong to us, and one day we get it, the day the American divide Iran into many pieces, so let the rest be for bloody fars, and you bloody fars and arab agent, may go with them we will make lorestan again part of greater Kurdistan and make it live high head with the rest of Kurdistan free from fars, arab and bloody turk influence.
go get lost, you trying to threaten who by fighting, we are kurds who are warriors since nails grew on our hands, the only thing kurds good at is fighting so go tell arab, azari or blooch this nonsence. lors are kurds we will get them back to their right track with the help of American or not. long live lori-kurdistan.
you dirtly bastard who have no power of discussion with kurds just insulting, you think you can ran a way from being kurds by insulting kurds from fear of fars your master, go get lost mader jenda.
first of all I dont want u to talk 4 us lori people your stinky little monkey, U should know that majority of us lor/bakhtiari people dont associate us with kurds and we know that we are not part of kurdish nation idiot! Perhaps we have a small minorety of my lori brothers who feel that they are kurds cause of your propaganda, God help them to find their way because we are not kurds. Get a life and tell your stinky kurd buddies stop spreading false propaganda, read history!! Haramzadeh!!
you Haramzadeh, of course i talk 4 u, i have respect for lor & Bachktiari since they are kurds. its you who mislead by fars, that you are not kurd. we have a common history and that is our witness. back to kurdish arms you have the chance to study & write in your own language not in farsi, dont you want that if not for you then for your children idiot, give them a chance to be their own, lore = kurd are older than farsi Hakamanesh we are the great Medes, so come back to your senses & leave fars.
What have lori language to do with iranic languages from north-western branch? Lori is one ancient dialect of farsi-e-bastani. We(lors, persians) say "Dan" which stands for "know" in contrast to the kurdish (zan). U use "Zoor = Much", "Biji = Say", "Agir/Awor = Fire" this words and many others connecting the kurdish dialects to one kurdish mother. What the hell have lori to do with this? Both lori and persian "Dan = know", "Ziad = much", "Bogo/bego = say", "Azer/atash = Fire".
Get facts before u speak, u think that u are educated? U are a fool LOL. Get some linguistic and historical facts before u give title to us lors as kurds. All people who use the word like "Zan" speak a language from north western branch of iranic languages like balochi, kurdish, zazaki etc. All people who use "Dan" speak languages from old persian (south western branch). This was only a typicall example. Even we lors pronounce words same like many dialects from south-western branch of iranic lng
U notice the structure of lori language that its not even naturally related to kurdish language. Even if we share some words with kurds does not make us kurds, even u kurds share some words with persians which not even include in lori. Etc u say "Bo" which means "For", persians say "Be/Bar". We lors say "Si",, and many other words. Typicall about dialects of old-persian from southern iranic branch is that we pronounce words likely, and many words r same. We say "Asemon", "jon",, "Baro/Baron".
Kurds never Pronounce etc Aseman "Asemoon" like us lors and persians. This is the typicall culture of us people from south-western branch of iranic language that we are playing with the vocals. We speak very softly similiar to the pronounce system like french people. Notice how french people say "Iran" or "tehran" or "Isfahan",, they say like us lors/persians "Iron" "Tehron" "Isfohon". Kurds language is harsh and u use troat to much like arabs, etc i know how u say hawar LOL. or Haiwan;)
We lors dont use much "W" sound either like u arabs and kurds;) We lors dont want u,, we dont want to join u. Even if Iran is in peaces we will still built up our motherland Iran with our persian brothers. U kurds create your damn Kurdistan, but we lors will not turn our back on Iran zamin. U are bunch of backstabbers! Hell with ur ideas, Dont u dare to occupy to be part of your silly fake Kurdistan. U are good to kill ur children, honor-killings, I saw that yezidi girl stoned to death.
You really think that honor-killings, stoning a woman cause she dating an arab is part of our culture?? LOL. U think that we lors are like that, u better think twice LOL. I know that mullas stone women to death cause that depends on Islam and their facistic regime,, not on our culture. But u people have that dirty part in ur culture, ur leaders kill in name of Kurdism, not Islam. Cause ur culture is wild and unshaped, in Sweden if u hear kurd they associate it with virus. Bera dega, mo kurd niem
the first time i ve seen stoning women in my life was in Iran, and the whole world knows better that arab and iranian stoning women not kurd, so why not get lost for your stupid point,you who accepting rule of arab religion in your country.mulla and islam and you are so proud of it, while the world is heading for mars, you in iran are heading for 1400 yrs ago of Saudi arabian cultrue and religion. the only virus is knows now in the world is called islamic virus of which iran competing with arab.
are u stupid or jealeus about us?? U maybe know that many us lors and persians from intellectual level outside Iran dont give a damn about Islam and not many of us in Iran care about Islam either. U think we like Iran like it is now??? I know that u deepest inside know what I'am talking about so dont throw your head in sand. The kurds are even more islamic in western world than us, u are more islamic and fundamentalic. That bloody Mulla Kerar or what his name is,, lives in Norway and kurd;)
kurd may have one notorious mulla krekar, tell me mr Kamali22 how many thousands Akhon (mulla)you have in Iran, i can name your best one Auatolahu al ozma Khalkhali, the butcher. you know many more im sure. while there may have been one case of stoning of a woman by a tribal bandit once in a decade, while in Iran its is a daily routine organised by the government and local authorities and iranian fan to watch and stone, i ve seen such horrible act once in a thousands on daily basis in Iran.
KurdistanPlanetarium You mentioned that Farsi must be the main language of Iran. You also mentioned that "other non Fars, like us & u should study in their own language in their own teritory, and study Farsi as a second language". Well, I agree with you that all nations of Iran must have the right to study their language. However, the question is the method of demanding it. The method should not be violent with bloodshed. It should not be with challenging the teritorial integrity of Iran.
Mr ahantbazin, Iran is a rich country, one of the richest in middle-east. and have ustainable row material to make paper(simply trees), and enough man power to do it. if the elements of government have respect for education ot Iranian, and not mis-using such wealth or filling their own pockets&making atom bomb then Iran can export paper to all middle eastern countries, just like China. if thats not enough then nothing wrong to ask USA &Israel to lay a helping hand, after all its for a good cause
Mr lurezand fighting for one's national rights is both legal and perfectly acceptable. kurds are not violent nation, we just strugling and fighting for our survival & rights. we are forced to take arm, and we are proud nation of warriors. we have respect of others and want to live in peace, but that does not mean abandoning our rights and our freedom, we have lust for freedom, and love free loving nations, unfortunately we are surrounded by hostile countries. long live free lori-kurdistan.
Troy1250BC I can not but more than agree with you. Humiliating other people and cultures is not a sign of civilization. On the contrary it only is the proof of ignorance. I enjoy talking with you guys, because I find you a person of wisdom and reasoning. Those who use vulgar languages and swear on other people because they have different views than them are a lowely level people. We are all humans and equal except for our behaviour.
Another point is that the languages like anything else goes through changes and evolution. Todays Farsi is totally different from that of Hakamanesh and Sasanid that you are so sensitive about. This is not Pahlavi of western Iran. It is rooted in Dari of Central Asia (Parthians and Sacas) with many borrowings from Arabic and other languages such as Turkey. Perhaps your Kordish language is closer to Sasanid Pahlavi (Middle Persian).
KurdistanPlatnetarium I agree with you that Lur and kord should be free to use their language. However, I believe that this is the right of all other people too. But there must be one language that everybody can communicate. Like this English language that me and you right now are communicating to eachother and have no problem using it. Because I don't speak Kordish and you don't speak Luri. This is true for all multinational countries, such as America, Rusia, China, India and so forth.
I agree with u in a mutilnational countries there should be one official language, and incsace of Iran is farsi, no problem, but that does not mean that farsi should be the only language, other non fars, like us & u should study in their own language in their owen teritory, and study farsi as a second language, but this is not the case in Iran, because fars are dominant racist and would not allow it unless we get it by fighting for it. not to mention the level of poverty our lands are suffering.
Iran is a land of many ethnic nationalities. This is not the land of persians only. Fars people are only one of the many nations inhabiting this land. My Kordish brothers don't make a mistake that Iran is only land of Farsi people.
Mr lurezand no one says that Iran is land of fars, but what we say that fars is ruling and their language is dominant. you are lore and as kurd remnant of Medes, we Medes were ruling before farsi Hakamansh, so why Iranian only study in farsi.dont want your children to speak & study in lori rather than farsi, I do.long live lori-kurdistan.
yes Hafez, Sadi...are great poets, i study them myself, i have a book of Hafez poems and Shahnama both in farsi & English, i also study Homer of Ancient Greece, Shakespeare, but that dosen't mean they have to dominate us. we too have great poets, u have Baba Taher Orian, we have Peramerd great poet & Phylosopher, but who in the world know about them, hardly anyone, why? because the rulers of Iran, Iraq & Turkey do not allow it, they supress our cultures, and call us uneducated, Backward...etc.
I am 100% Lure from Zand tribe. I have been reading these discusions between Lurs and so called Kords. I know for facts that Lurs are feeling as strong about Iran as their Lurish heritage. Lure=Iran
mr Lurezand luri heritage is Medes and not farsi hakamansh. Medes werer ruling Great Empire of Media, Iran is now ruled by farsi Komaini. Luri land now called Lorestan which together with kurdistan makes the heart of Media. you should try to bring that glory that your ancestors enjoyed in the past and not show your feeling for Irani Farsi rule.
No mr you got it wrong I said hardly anyone no about our cultures, thats ours+yours, not Farsi or Turkey as you thought. Fars, Turk & Arab are rulling so they only interested in showing their belonging and not ours, not just that they even deny that we ever produced something worth mentioning.
Mr ahantabazin, i know very well what i said, i said we kurds & lure have great poets, but hardly anyone in the world know about them since Iranian Government and others in Iraq & Turkey do not allow it (not other way round). they supress our cultures, you know that very well dont try to pretend you dont, or may be you are so much influnced by Hafez, Sadi...etc, you almost forgot about Babe Taher and your other great poets. I am sorry for you.
Mr ahantabarzin I dont want to say too much since somebody already replied to u, and I agree with him, what I want to say just, go and read my txt once more and then see how you understood me wrong, as for farsi I think you are more influnced by them than anyone esle.
Guys the only reason we here is to listen nice lore music, and discus important histosrical issues regarding kurd & lore, so we have to maintian a level that is acceptable to all of us, just remember many people visiting this site, so please discuss with respect to all, and the site itself, swearing does not solve any thing, but brings more hatred. Thankyou all.
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ahantabardqin /i thing u born from an ass becuse of that u have shite smell & u smelled all this site(u can ask ur mom has she been n ghazvin or not)///FIRST WASH UR mouth then suck the laks dick even ur mouth worth a blu job///most of best singers &musicians &aducated peopel of lorestan are LAKs/the retardation in lorestan is of afew wilde obnei vilagers like you
ahantabar u assol(dehatie bisavad)why u swearing evry one?first try to become a human then make some knowlodge after that u can join the humans and make comment.its to early 4u to use computer u have to live in OSHTERANKOH or POSHTKOH till islamic re... moves to hell//i hope we have only one person like u in lorestan n not more
I knew this crap persianos has no maner & respect. he is an internet illitrate who has no education to discuss things like all others do and show respect to this site. well what we can expect from a barking dog. to me its important that his point of views is not count at all, since he is an outsider who has no right to be here.
perianos if u are realy loveing HERRRRO lors why lorestan is one of poorest area of iran/ lors &lorestani kurds lost their HERRRRO sons sake of your islamic iran but why now in islamic kindnes ther is nothing 4 herrro LORS and you selfish fars call them LORE BI FARHANG
1-i dont want to answer any unpolit& racist FARS(With my respect 4 all of that farses who belive in same rights 4 evry one)2-LORs are free to be persian becuse their languege is like farsi.thats up to themselve////but im KURDISH LAK &my langueige &my blood is KURDish so no one can make busines about us specially some unrespect peopel who has foolishly enemy with kurds
persianos u proofed u r realy unaducated person its shame on any polite person to swearing to a comunity or a natione/its not ur busines to talk between lors & kurds we are 2 nations with one origin/and we leaving in peace
Well by reading ur comment ur more of the unaducated person than me, laks are closer to lors than kurds. Lors in turn see them selves more closer to persians than kurds.
I have every right to participate in these discussions as im a Lor aswell, my mother is LOR, she belongs to FOLADVAND family of Lorestan!
Dont worry lakkurdistan, persianos, is a fars and not lor, and so he has no power of reasoning, thats why he crying, shouting and insulting. thats showing his leverl of education as and internet illitrate. he has no manner and honour, so he is excused, its better to live him alone to bark like a dog, as much as he like cause thats what he is.
dear ahantabarzin:i dont know who u are but iwana tell u im a iranian kurish LAK from noorabad(delfan)we dont want any one call us lor or any other nation& idont call lors kurd/so why u getting angry or swearing to kurds?what do u want to proof?
Mr ahantabarzin, here is one lakkurdistan who tells you he is a real kurd. its time you too consider your position and come back to your senses and accept the will of history, that lors are truly kurdish. long live lori-kurdistsn
Im half Lor and half persian but 100% Iranian, Respect to all Iranians around the world. The civilized kurds know they are Iranians and its only the uncivilized barbarian mountain kurds who think they are something else, probably animals like this sheepfucker here "FuckerOfMedia"!
Zende bad har Irani ke ghalbesh baraye Iran zamin mitape!!
you mr idiot how can u be half-half, if one of your parent is fars, then dont try to discus kurdish-lori problem, because u have farsi blood to say kurd as barbarian, i think we dont have bloody islamic rule to impose barbaric laws on our people like u do in Iran, against woman and ohter deprived populations, u still executing by dozens daily, we dont, so who is barbarian mr Persianos.
Its funny how u say "we" persians impose barbarian islamic laws and on women, when we all know that kurdish people treat their women as an inferior individual not to mention the murders in the name of "honor" u animals are so famous for, so dont be such a hippocrytical fuck.Btw i wont mention about the murders and rapes u guys comite against innocent people who try to pass the borders, so why dont u just stfu u kurdish sheepfucker
And another thing, i can join any discussion that has to do with Iran, persians or lors or whatever that i feel like, my mother is Lor and im PROUD of it!! So when an illiterate fuck like u comes and tell us that Lors are kurds u comite a MAJOR offence, we are Lor/persian = human, not kurdish animals who still after 4000 years of civilization still lives in caves!
You have no honour and respect on this site and use dirty word, then tell me who is illetrate bastard. we kurd claim our rights as kurds in ur damn country and loris as kurd, since that is our hostoric rights no mtatter how u shout and insult, u damn illetrate fars, we kurd have the best of model of Democractic rules after Israel in Middle East and u fars still live in time of ur 1400 years ago imams.
Your both ignorant and illiterate, why the hell cant u understand that Lors dont count themselves as kurds, they see themselves as Iranians wich u guys dont, and if u feel so oppressed by Iran so why dont u guys just get the hell out of Iran?
we will get the hell out of Iran, but not without taking Kurdistan and Luristan with us, u damn fars why not go to an american site and discuss ur Neuclear power with them, what the hell u doing here interfering with us kurd & lor, u get the hell out of this site, since your point of view is not count at ll, you are fars, meaning u have blood enemy to both of us, so get lost. long live lori-kurdistan.
Why the hell cant u get it in to ur thick skull that Lors dont consider themselves to be kurds, they se them selves more related to persians. And beside that Lors are patriotic Iranian and great Heroes of Iran in every war Iran had to fight. First sign of war and Lors are first on place to defend Iran zamin, not like u traitor kurds who instead of fighting for Iran join the enemey side instead!
Lors are Iranian and have their country wich is Iran, they dont want to belong to ur Kurdistan.
you who tell kurd traitor damn u, have u ever fought for Iran, i did as a kurdish Peshmargeg i was fighting side by side Iranian as an ally during the bloody 8 yrs was with Iraq, and we kurd paid a heavy price when u lost the war. so show some respect idiot, kurds are warriors. the only traitor is u, maybe ur Mojahedeen and collaborated with Iraq. long live lori-kurdistan.
To us kurdish nationlity is what matter and not religion. we have many minority religion living with us (christian, yazidi, zardasthi...etc), and they are as much kurd as i, none of them deny that, not like u. so we accept u no matter what, we have many many kurdish Shia, in all part of kurdistan what is wrong with that mr ahantabarzin. by the way Ali is my big brother and he still live in kurdistan.
I just cant help laughing my ass of, do u guys really live in a dream? U guys democratic?? After Israel who u suppose to be nr!? The treatment of the palestinian people is very demcratic indeed, the way u guys treat ur women by honormurders are sooo democratic, they way u guys fight eachother even tho soranis, kurmanji are the same animals, u guys have drifted so much apart even tho u live so close together that u now how 2 diffirent languages not dialects, very funny indeed, plz stfu!
milkandkisses78 dasakam beger benari sakhta sara benara homari takhta . del ha va tamat del aram ava shole mah dima va ser klawa liva do diryet machoo = (Sorani Kurdish) Dastkama Bgra bnari Sakhta, Sara bnera homari takhta. Dl ha wa tamat dl aram awa, shuli mah dime wasar kllawa! So be Quieteeeeeeeeeeee
yes I want you to behave like a jentilman not like a low life full of complex do not use your feeling use your mind than we will be ok now take it easy and respect other people we wont see the freedam that we want but it is going to happend some day in future
ahantabarzin aha lol so you mean You (lors,laki kurds,gurani kurds...) are Kurds? but we are outsiders(greek,armenian...) hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ahahahahahahahhahahah way way wayyyyyyyy hhhhhhhhhhhhghghghhhg
trancelate dasakam beger benari sakhta sara benara homari takhta . del ha va tamat del aram ava shole mah dima va ser klawa liva do diryet machoo vea vava not even one arabic word in this song
nice music . beji KURDISTAN fuci iran.
KurdBooon 9 months ago
@KurdBooon This is not kurdish music your morron! Its pure lori middle-persian music of greater IRAN. Fuck all of you ugly jealeus kurds, and piss on your fake Kurdistan! LOL
Kamali22 6 months ago
Asheghe Loro Lorestanam
mohammad543210 10 months ago
Happy NowRooz!
Wish all Iranians health, happiness, and success in the New Iranian Year!
God bless IRAN and Iranians!
utash321 11 months ago 3
لر یعنی با فرهنگ، مهماننواز و بی تکبر ، من لرم و عاشق ایران
Mehdi5218 1 year ago 5
Ahantabarzin ..You are a shit Farsi racest >.You lost your language and now your language is Arabic in 80% of it . Iran is not belong to Fars people ..it is opur land also. You are just a minoriti in Iran ..Our Kurdish nation is in all divided country between Iran and Iraq and Turkey is about 40 milion people. Lors are Kurdsk they are belong to our great nation. But also that is right that Fars are our cousen.
bawegur2714 1 year ago
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Have you ever been in Lorestan? If you look at their physiognomy you might understand. They have their own language Lori and not Kordi.
kachahaan 1 year ago
Khodaa Iran ro az Tafraghe, ekhtelaaf , Dorough va Jang Hefz kone.
Mahnous 1 year ago
Gosh, I just love this video.
Mahnous 1 year ago
Wow, I love this video, hope to see those days again.
Mahnous 1 year ago
FYI, all this song is Laki not Lori, except 5:00 to 5:50 that is Luri!!! Laki is a dialect of southern Kurdish. laks live in Lorestan, Kermanshah, and Ilam providence. And, also some of Laks were immigrated to Khorasan, Fars, Klardasht, and Qazvin. the number of Laks in Iraq is more than Iran, and one of deputies of Iraqi Kurdistn government is lak Kurdish.
ibata1979 1 year ago
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ahantabarzin 1 year ago
It's a great song, awesome. Lori is very beautiful kurdish dialect. We lors are proud kurds, Lorstan=Kurdistan. Long live kurds and Kurdistan
KurdLorstani 1 year ago
Long live all Iranians/Persians. Lurs speak a Persian dialect derived from Middle-Persian Pahlavi (Over 75% of their language).
persiandudeee 1 year ago
@Garudaa The Lors are Persians (Pars) in their original form and as you can see there's is nothing Arabic in this video. However, could the same be said about Kurds in Turkey? Have they not lost themselves to the Turks? I live amongst them and I have NEVER heard them speak Kurdish to eachother. Could the same be said about Kurds, Lors, Taleshi, Baluchi, etc in Iran? Of course not!!
Happy Norooz/Newrooz!
NimaSun 1 year ago 3
Lors may say what ever they want they are losers. Kurds and Kurdistan are important. KURDISTAN call them Kurds it means they are KURDS. No discussion no comment no pm nonething. LUR=Kurd for ever.
OKurdishFascismO 2 years ago
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ahantabarzin 2 years ago
My brother ,don't give up Your nation. Kurds are one of the great Arian nations. We had MED Empire, and now we struggle in rest of our land( Kurdistan) to freedom.We build in South of Kurdistan ( Kurdistan of Iraq)our first step to free Kurdistan. You are a part of our nation. You can't change the truth.
bawegur2714 2 years ago
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ahantabarzin 1 year ago
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ahantabarzin 1 year ago
You mean BOSS.
BASS is a fish.
Who do you rule? :)
I agree, anyone who wants to leave Iran should go and never come back.
Hesam0000 2 years ago 2
why such persistance over racial purity?
kurds, Persians, Lors have a lot in common.
A LOT!!!!
irajou 2 years ago
To kurd:
please stop coming on Lor videos and swear at Persians and call Lors Kurdish. It is embrassing to read all these B/S posted by these nationalistic Kurds on EVERY SINGLE LUR VIDEO.
ybyjasmine 2 years ago
سلام و درود بر لرستان سرزمين شيران و دليران و قهرمانان
لعنت بر آخوندهاى ضدبشر و ضد ايرانى و دزد و جنايتكار و حرامزاده
mojawermahallh 2 years ago
Ew kesey gutî min Êranîm wate Caşe Xaîne Dij be Kurde Dij be Kurdistan'e înca eger ew kese min bim, daykim bêt bawkim bêt ya her kesêkî dîke bêt. Ême her hemû Kurdîn we hîçî dîke nîn ca tikaye wellamî ew kesa xellefawane meyenewe. Supas. Bijî Kurdistan.
FireOfMedia2 2 years ago
tu dayki khot bawke you are doing your dayk any way az korde irani bum lor ham korde irani bu tu wa ky=ey dary jashek yahoodi iraqhi hara dayk khot beka
ahantabarzin 2 years ago
NimaSun jan It is Hard for a Losser Azeri to understand that Lurs are Kurds. Because you guys are Losers. I know your Persian/Arain(propaganda) Pride makes you so patriotic to be Iranian(Persian) But how sad is that If you understand That not All Indo-Iranian nations Are LOSERs and Assimilated like you : ). By DNA: You are Kurd By Culture: you are Caucasian(like Georgian)By Language:You are a Turk. How Sad! it is expected for you to call yourself just Iranian because you are a LOSER azerbaijani.
FireOfMedia2 2 years ago
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ahantabarzin 2 years ago
Look at Their Faces! They loooooook So Kurdish they look like US a Kurd from Diyarbekir/Amed looks the same, a Kurd from Eleziz looks the same! even long long away from Luristan. Luristan was always ruled by Kurds.Their DNA is Kurdish. Persian clothes look more like Arabic clothes of UEA hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Arabic Khliji Clothes hhhhhh and their dances too hhhhhhhhhhhhh UAE( united arab emirates=pure arabic) I Swore you do not see any defference from them and the Persian clothes. with all my respect
FireOfMedia2 2 years ago
You're right, my family is from Hamedan and they are originally Kurds. Hamedan also has a lot of Lors, Laks, etc.
But you see, that doesn't mean we belong to ONLY Kurdistan, we belong to Iran and Iran belongs to us!
Azaris are also descendants of various groups such as Kurd, Taleshi and old Azari it is now dead.
We're ALL Irani peoples and will remain so!
NimaSun 2 years ago
You're on a Lori page saying fuck Persians?
You should stop taking drugs!!!
NimaSun 2 years ago 2
Instead of swearing give evidence to suggest that Lors are Persians and not Kords or Lors are just a different race from Kords. Tell us about their language how close is it to Persian or close to Kurdish. Do not tell us about words, because of Lori vocabularies are exactly Kurdish and the verb conjugation is Kurdish. If you have any supporting evidence splash it out here and stop this thing about Iranians BECAUSE Iran has only benefited the Persians and no one else. Period.
SikismekAtaturk 2 years ago
When did I say I'm not of Kurdish origin? Either find where I said or or or shhhh like a good little boy!
Lets assume the whole of Iran is Kurdish!
So what?
Do you think Iran then belongs to you? or that YOU belong to Iran because you're Iranian (Kurdish)!?!
huh? do the math my villager friend!
..and watch your mouth, you call Persians dirty yet you're on Iraqi pages giving praise, you fucking JASH!
Xerom ze dested jashi!
NimaSun 2 years ago
When did I say I'm not Kurdish you moron?
I'll say it again, go to LORESTAN and say Lors are Kurds!
Until that day SHUT THE FUCK UP bitch!!!!!!
Marg bar doshman, che az xod, che bixod!
Zendeh-baad Irano Irani!
NimaSun 2 years ago
Kosskesh ammateh!
Go back to your villege and stop posting on youtube you uneducated tramp! or even better instead of chatting shit on the net like a little girl, go to LORESTAN and call them KORDS!
NimaSun 2 years ago
Oh so you're only half Kurd? I on the other hand am FULL Kurdish!
Those of mixed origins are usually confused as yourself.
Nice mixture though, I also have a half Kurdi half Lori but 100% Iranian friend. Good mix!
NimaSun 2 years ago
I'm not Persian!
You're the paranoid fool who thinks everyone's Persian!
Lors are not Kurds, stfu now. This is getting old.
NimaSun 2 years ago
haha you say the same thing on Iraqi pages.
Idiot!
NimaSun 2 years ago
very beautiful sad song and this is 110% kurdish ilami song.
kurdistanization 2 years ago
err no its not, I understand you want it to be, but it just isn't.
NimaSun 2 years ago
Shirio77, dear friend, thanks for being.
EsatBrahimLodi 2 years ago
Krolietje, to enjoy you must understand and to understand you must educate your tastes.
EsatBrahimLodi 2 years ago
KimariSherawi, if mighty Iran had not fallen to the sword of Islam then Kurdistan would not have been "char parcha" as you say it. Kurds are Iranians and Iran is not only Persian. By cursing Iran you are cursing yourself. Wake up as NimaSun wrote.
EsatBrahimLodi 2 years ago 7
Dear ''EastBrahimLodi''---->I 1005 agree with what you said..If a Kurd insults IRAN,he is actually insulting himself! because Kurds are pure Iranian-ethnics.
MedoPersia2769 2 years ago 5
It is true that Kurds are part of a group of Iranian people BUT Iran is not. It has been the sole owner of the Persians who confiscated everything, claiming all things to be of Persian origins and if it was not they would say it's Iranians. That's why most Kurds do not feel comfortable with this We Are All Iranian slogan thing. Do you like an Iran ruled by Kurds and official language is Kurdish, which is by far more purer than Persian / Arabic language you speaking.
SikismekAtaturk 2 years ago
Sikismekataturk stop going around and B/S. I'm an Iranian lur and we are NOT kurds. As much as KUrds are close to Persians they are close to Lurs. Stop wasting your time spreading B/S.
ybyjasmine 2 years ago
Could someone post up the lyrics for this please?
NimaSun 2 years ago
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omgg? what the fuck is this shit?
is this carnaval or something, this is so gay!! give me real persian music KAMRAN & HOOMAN (l)
end this music is horrible !!!!
i must to berinam if i hear this !!!!!!
Krolietje 2 years ago
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NimaSun 2 years ago
Anyways.. this tune never gets old. Kheylee bahaleh!
NimaSun 2 years ago
NimaSun, Iranzamin is not only Fars or Kurdistan and where you draw the line is unimportant. What counts is where the Kurdish and other Iranian peoples draw the line. You can't accuse other Iranians who don't want to subordinate themselves to Persians of being "sellouts".
EsatBrahimLodi 2 years ago
You contradicted yourself. You say its up to the people yet at the same time say my opinon is not important. Am I not included in your list of "Kurdish and other Iranian peoples"?
Also I'm against anyone being "subordinated" and I'm not Farsi.
You've misunderstood!
NimaSun 2 years ago
NimaSun, If I have misunderstood, now you have sorted it out. Thanks. Greetings from another Iranian.
EsatBrahimLodi 2 years ago 4
NimaSun! My dear friend! I could not stop thinking knowing you are targeting a great friend, a Cultured person as EsatBrahimLodi as a misunderstanding! Please be careful on detail or else you will fall into same trap as our friends did!
Viva our culture!
Shirio77 2 years ago
The republic of Mehabad was a Russian plot, just like how they separated Arran and Shirvan, which later became to be known as Azerbaijan. They had the same plan for Gilan and Mazandaran as well.
You are a tool.
Kurd = Iran.
You are a sellout, stop selling your self and culture.
Wake up!
NimaSun 2 years ago
in korda az hameye donya daran mikhoran faghat tanha jaee le baladan harf bezanan joloye lor ha hast.
ma hamishe shenidim ke lor va tork baradar hastan vali engar in tazegia taze jarian avaz mishe.
zendeh bad lorestane ziba.
mohsennasery 2 years ago 3
سلام بر سرزمین شیران و دلیران لرستان همیشه قهرمان
سرنگون باد رژیم بجا مانده از خمینی حرامزاده
محو نابود باد رژیم ضدبشری ضد ایرانی و فرهنگ کش اخوندی حاکم بر ایران
mojawermahallh 2 years ago 3
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everywhere minorities are under pressure, they force different culture to different people,
This mother bitch politicians are political prostitutes, in Iran, Iraq, Syria,,,,,,,give free will to the kurd worldwide,
mashaallah58 3 years ago
I fully support independence for the Kurds in Turkey and Iraq.. but that's where i draw the line.
The Kurds in Iran are in their original place.
NimaSun 3 years ago 2
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I dont now way the lors are refysing to be Kurds, but if the lors dont want to be Kurdistani they must not, is a free chooise. biji pesmerge biji pkk. na arabem na tyrkem na iraniem wale kurd kurdistaniem. biji Kurd
xalife 3 years ago
I tell you why, its very simple, try to keep up.
THE LORS ARE NOT KURDS!
Your 42 and you don't know this? What the hell have you been doing with your life for the past 42 years? You aren't even familiar with the most basic facts, how the hell are you going to run a country?
Eshek how are you a Kurd if your not Irani?
oh and Sikdir PKK!
NimaSun 3 years ago 2
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I don't know what kurds from Iraq want here, They can't undrestand a word of Lori and Lori culture and just say some idiotic things. We are Lors and we are proud to be Iranian. Therefore do yourself a favour and find your destiny somewhere else. me loressoniem va kheili ham sim eftekhara keh Iraniem. A bra meni, khaterem diri khahesha makem...baghishe khoto donid.
XXerxesss 3 years ago 16
XXerxesss kamaelan ba shoma movafegham
Miinaa2006 3 years ago 13
hello my borther
please answer me, ARE YOU AS A LOR STILL AWARE OF UR ORIGINAL KURDISH ROOTS?
never get fooled by the persian, the persian are dark and indian peoples. while the lors are bautifull aryan peoples, just like kurds
the lors and kurds look more like each others.
KurdishPride952 3 years ago
Why do ill-informed, uneducated people take it upon themselves to post on public forums?
Do you think other people are as stupid as yourself?
From my 24 years of experience on this planet I can tell you with full confidants that its very dangerous calling a Lori person a Kurd or anything else.
Try and rule yourselves first, come out from under the yoke of the Turks and Arabs and THEN start making such elaborate claims.
NimaSun 3 years ago
ahantabarzin ---> you are an Iranian(persian) agent Terrorist backward,islamist,fascist....... so i dont wanna answere you anymore.
FireOfMedia2 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
santoshasong im not Iraqi! and i will not be! Im a Kurd-Kurdistanian! from Sivas is my land to Urmia! from Erdehan is my land to the Persian Gulf, it means your luri lands too! Luristan kurdistan haste, Lorha kord hastand! ma kord hastim yani Madha. So everybody as you, must shut up dear. We will Say Lors=Lors when you read your own language in Schools! now your Slaves of Persia/Iran! in Kurdish(Median): slave:Nokar,Dardast,Karakar.
FireOfMedia2 3 years ago
yes you are iraqhi jewish kord
ahantabarzin 3 years ago
FireOf media, shotor dar khab binad panbe dane gahi ghab ghab khorad geh dane dane,
Iran yek-parche khahad mand, Ma Lor-ha khod ra irani midanim va baray yek-parchegi an khaim jangid
Miinaa2006 3 years ago
Iran=must be 10 countries! We dont want Iran(Persia) We refuse to be slaves of this Persia! We want our lands from Mako to the Persian Gulf whole western iran without Arabic lands.
FireOfMedia2 3 years ago
you are iraqhi do not talk a bout iran we are lor kords are not lor and you are a jewish kord go and talk a bout israel and arabs ma LOR HASTIM KORD NISTIM
santoshasong 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
ahntabarxin we kurds only interested in 2 parts which they really are one, and thats Kurdistan + Lorestan it belong to us, and one day we get it, the day the American divide Iran into many pieces, so let the rest be for bloody fars, and you bloody fars and arab agent, may go with them we will make lorestan again part of greater Kurdistan and make it live high head with the rest of Kurdistan free from fars, arab and bloody turk influence.
Biji Lori-Kurdistan
KurdistanPlanetarium 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
go get lost, you trying to threaten who by fighting, we are kurds who are warriors since nails grew on our hands, the only thing kurds good at is fighting so go tell arab, azari or blooch this nonsence. lors are kurds we will get them back to their right track with the help of American or not. long live lori-kurdistan.
KurdistanPlanetarium 3 years ago
loestan belongs to lor we are lor we have nothing incomon with kords and they can go fuck your mother
milkandkisses78 3 years ago
you dirtly bastard who have no power of discussion with kurds just insulting, you think you can ran a way from being kurds by insulting kurds from fear of fars your master, go get lost mader jenda.
KurdistanPlanetarium 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
first of all I dont want u to talk 4 us lori people your stinky little monkey, U should know that majority of us lor/bakhtiari people dont associate us with kurds and we know that we are not part of kurdish nation idiot! Perhaps we have a small minorety of my lori brothers who feel that they are kurds cause of your propaganda, God help them to find their way because we are not kurds. Get a life and tell your stinky kurd buddies stop spreading false propaganda, read history!! Haramzadeh!!
Kamali22 3 years ago
you Haramzadeh, of course i talk 4 u, i have respect for lor & Bachktiari since they are kurds. its you who mislead by fars, that you are not kurd. we have a common history and that is our witness. back to kurdish arms you have the chance to study & write in your own language not in farsi, dont you want that if not for you then for your children idiot, give them a chance to be their own, lore = kurd are older than farsi Hakamanesh we are the great Medes, so come back to your senses & leave fars.
KurdistanPlanetarium 3 years ago
What have lori language to do with iranic languages from north-western branch? Lori is one ancient dialect of farsi-e-bastani. We(lors, persians) say "Dan" which stands for "know" in contrast to the kurdish (zan). U use "Zoor = Much", "Biji = Say", "Agir/Awor = Fire" this words and many others connecting the kurdish dialects to one kurdish mother. What the hell have lori to do with this? Both lori and persian "Dan = know", "Ziad = much", "Bogo/bego = say", "Azer/atash = Fire".
Kamali22 3 years ago 3
Get facts before u speak, u think that u are educated? U are a fool LOL. Get some linguistic and historical facts before u give title to us lors as kurds. All people who use the word like "Zan" speak a language from north western branch of iranic languages like balochi, kurdish, zazaki etc. All people who use "Dan" speak languages from old persian (south western branch). This was only a typicall example. Even we lors pronounce words same like many dialects from south-western branch of iranic lng
Kamali22 3 years ago 2
U notice the structure of lori language that its not even naturally related to kurdish language. Even if we share some words with kurds does not make us kurds, even u kurds share some words with persians which not even include in lori. Etc u say "Bo" which means "For", persians say "Be/Bar". We lors say "Si",, and many other words. Typicall about dialects of old-persian from southern iranic branch is that we pronounce words likely, and many words r same. We say "Asemon", "jon",, "Baro/Baron".
Kamali22 3 years ago 2
Kurds never Pronounce etc Aseman "Asemoon" like us lors and persians. This is the typicall culture of us people from south-western branch of iranic language that we are playing with the vocals. We speak very softly similiar to the pronounce system like french people. Notice how french people say "Iran" or "tehran" or "Isfahan",, they say like us lors/persians "Iron" "Tehron" "Isfohon". Kurds language is harsh and u use troat to much like arabs, etc i know how u say hawar LOL. or Haiwan;)
Kamali22 3 years ago 4
We lors dont use much "W" sound either like u arabs and kurds;) We lors dont want u,, we dont want to join u. Even if Iran is in peaces we will still built up our motherland Iran with our persian brothers. U kurds create your damn Kurdistan, but we lors will not turn our back on Iran zamin. U are bunch of backstabbers! Hell with ur ideas, Dont u dare to occupy to be part of your silly fake Kurdistan. U are good to kill ur children, honor-killings, I saw that yezidi girl stoned to death.
Kamali22 3 years ago 4
You really think that honor-killings, stoning a woman cause she dating an arab is part of our culture?? LOL. U think that we lors are like that, u better think twice LOL. I know that mullas stone women to death cause that depends on Islam and their facistic regime,, not on our culture. But u people have that dirty part in ur culture, ur leaders kill in name of Kurdism, not Islam. Cause ur culture is wild and unshaped, in Sweden if u hear kurd they associate it with virus. Bera dega, mo kurd niem
Kamali22 3 years ago 3
the first time i ve seen stoning women in my life was in Iran, and the whole world knows better that arab and iranian stoning women not kurd, so why not get lost for your stupid point,you who accepting rule of arab religion in your country.mulla and islam and you are so proud of it, while the world is heading for mars, you in iran are heading for 1400 yrs ago of Saudi arabian cultrue and religion. the only virus is knows now in the world is called islamic virus of which iran competing with arab.
KurdistanPlanetarium 3 years ago
are u stupid or jealeus about us?? U maybe know that many us lors and persians from intellectual level outside Iran dont give a damn about Islam and not many of us in Iran care about Islam either. U think we like Iran like it is now??? I know that u deepest inside know what I'am talking about so dont throw your head in sand. The kurds are even more islamic in western world than us, u are more islamic and fundamentalic. That bloody Mulla Kerar or what his name is,, lives in Norway and kurd;)
Kamali22 3 years ago
kurd may have one notorious mulla krekar, tell me mr Kamali22 how many thousands Akhon (mulla)you have in Iran, i can name your best one Auatolahu al ozma Khalkhali, the butcher. you know many more im sure. while there may have been one case of stoning of a woman by a tribal bandit once in a decade, while in Iran its is a daily routine organised by the government and local authorities and iranian fan to watch and stone, i ve seen such horrible act once in a thousands on daily basis in Iran.
KurdistanPlanetarium 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
KurdistanPlanetarium You mentioned that Farsi must be the main language of Iran. You also mentioned that "other non Fars, like us & u should study in their own language in their own teritory, and study Farsi as a second language". Well, I agree with you that all nations of Iran must have the right to study their language. However, the question is the method of demanding it. The method should not be violent with bloodshed. It should not be with challenging the teritorial integrity of Iran.
lurezand 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
Mr ahantbazin, Iran is a rich country, one of the richest in middle-east. and have ustainable row material to make paper(simply trees), and enough man power to do it. if the elements of government have respect for education ot Iranian, and not mis-using such wealth or filling their own pockets&making atom bomb then Iran can export paper to all middle eastern countries, just like China. if thats not enough then nothing wrong to ask USA &Israel to lay a helping hand, after all its for a good cause
KurdistanPlanetarium 3 years ago
Mr lurezand fighting for one's national rights is both legal and perfectly acceptable. kurds are not violent nation, we just strugling and fighting for our survival & rights. we are forced to take arm, and we are proud nation of warriors. we have respect of others and want to live in peace, but that does not mean abandoning our rights and our freedom, we have lust for freedom, and love free loving nations, unfortunately we are surrounded by hostile countries. long live free lori-kurdistan.
KurdistanPlanetarium 3 years ago
I love lurs!!
// Greetings from FARS "PERSIAN"
sorrypapawxz 3 years ago
Troy1250BC I can not but more than agree with you. Humiliating other people and cultures is not a sign of civilization. On the contrary it only is the proof of ignorance. I enjoy talking with you guys, because I find you a person of wisdom and reasoning. Those who use vulgar languages and swear on other people because they have different views than them are a lowely level people. We are all humans and equal except for our behaviour.
lurezand 3 years ago
Another point is that the languages like anything else goes through changes and evolution. Todays Farsi is totally different from that of Hakamanesh and Sasanid that you are so sensitive about. This is not Pahlavi of western Iran. It is rooted in Dari of Central Asia (Parthians and Sacas) with many borrowings from Arabic and other languages such as Turkey. Perhaps your Kordish language is closer to Sasanid Pahlavi (Middle Persian).
lurezand 3 years ago
KurdistanPlatnetarium I agree with you that Lur and kord should be free to use their language. However, I believe that this is the right of all other people too. But there must be one language that everybody can communicate. Like this English language that me and you right now are communicating to eachother and have no problem using it. Because I don't speak Kordish and you don't speak Luri. This is true for all multinational countries, such as America, Rusia, China, India and so forth.
lurezand 3 years ago
I agree with u in a mutilnational countries there should be one official language, and incsace of Iran is farsi, no problem, but that does not mean that farsi should be the only language, other non fars, like us & u should study in their own language in their owen teritory, and study farsi as a second language, but this is not the case in Iran, because fars are dominant racist and would not allow it unless we get it by fighting for it. not to mention the level of poverty our lands are suffering.
KurdistanPlanetarium 3 years ago
lurezand when i look at youre people i see kurds youre looks clothes dance music
leyla029 3 years ago
Iran is a land of many ethnic nationalities. This is not the land of persians only. Fars people are only one of the many nations inhabiting this land. My Kordish brothers don't make a mistake that Iran is only land of Farsi people.
lurezand 3 years ago
Mr lurezand no one says that Iran is land of fars, but what we say that fars is ruling and their language is dominant. you are lore and as kurd remnant of Medes, we Medes were ruling before farsi Hakamansh, so why Iranian only study in farsi.dont want your children to speak & study in lori rather than farsi, I do.long live lori-kurdistan.
KurdistanPlanetarium 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
yes Hafez, Sadi...are great poets, i study them myself, i have a book of Hafez poems and Shahnama both in farsi & English, i also study Homer of Ancient Greece, Shakespeare, but that dosen't mean they have to dominate us. we too have great poets, u have Baba Taher Orian, we have Peramerd great poet & Phylosopher, but who in the world know about them, hardly anyone, why? because the rulers of Iran, Iraq & Turkey do not allow it, they supress our cultures, and call us uneducated, Backward...etc.
Troy1250BC 3 years ago
I am 100% Lure from Zand tribe. I have been reading these discusions between Lurs and so called Kords. I know for facts that Lurs are feeling as strong about Iran as their Lurish heritage. Lure=Iran
lurezand 3 years ago
mr Lurezand luri heritage is Medes and not farsi hakamansh. Medes werer ruling Great Empire of Media, Iran is now ruled by farsi Komaini. Luri land now called Lorestan which together with kurdistan makes the heart of Media. you should try to bring that glory that your ancestors enjoyed in the past and not show your feeling for Irani Farsi rule.
Troy1250BC 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
No mr you got it wrong I said hardly anyone no about our cultures, thats ours+yours, not Farsi or Turkey as you thought. Fars, Turk & Arab are rulling so they only interested in showing their belonging and not ours, not just that they even deny that we ever produced something worth mentioning.
KurdistanPlanetarium 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
Mr ahantabazin, i know very well what i said, i said we kurds & lure have great poets, but hardly anyone in the world know about them since Iranian Government and others in Iraq & Turkey do not allow it (not other way round). they supress our cultures, you know that very well dont try to pretend you dont, or may be you are so much influnced by Hafez, Sadi...etc, you almost forgot about Babe Taher and your other great poets. I am sorry for you.
Troy1250BC 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
Mr ahantabarzin I dont want to say too much since somebody already replied to u, and I agree with him, what I want to say just, go and read my txt once more and then see how you understood me wrong, as for farsi I think you are more influnced by them than anyone esle.
Troy1250BC 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
Guys the only reason we here is to listen nice lore music, and discus important histosrical issues regarding kurd & lore, so we have to maintian a level that is acceptable to all of us, just remember many people visiting this site, so please discuss with respect to all, and the site itself, swearing does not solve any thing, but brings more hatred. Thankyou all.
KurdistanPlanetarium 3 years ago
KurdistanPlanetarium He is An Internet Hero lollllllllllll
FireOfMedia2 3 years ago
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahah chos khafa kon
ahantabarzin 3 years ago
guys i apologizing if ibeen nasty.iwouldent be unpolit but that sick made me to be
lakkurdistan 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
ahantabardqin /i thing u born from an ass becuse of that u have shite smell & u smelled all this site(u can ask ur mom has she been n ghazvin or not)///FIRST WASH UR mouth then suck the laks dick even ur mouth worth a blu job///most of best singers &musicians &aducated peopel of lorestan are LAKs/the retardation in lorestan is of afew wilde obnei vilagers like you
lakkurdistan 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
ahantabar u assol(dehatie bisavad)why u swearing evry one?first try to become a human then make some knowlodge after that u can join the humans and make comment.its to early 4u to use computer u have to live in OSHTERANKOH or POSHTKOH till islamic re... moves to hell//i hope we have only one person like u in lorestan n not more
lakkurdistan 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
I knew this crap persianos has no maner & respect. he is an internet illitrate who has no education to discuss things like all others do and show respect to this site. well what we can expect from a barking dog. to me its important that his point of views is not count at all, since he is an outsider who has no right to be here.
KurdistanPlanetarium 3 years ago
perianos if u are realy loveing HERRRRO lors why lorestan is one of poorest area of iran/ lors &lorestani kurds lost their HERRRRO sons sake of your islamic iran but why now in islamic kindnes ther is nothing 4 herrro LORS and you selfish fars call them LORE BI FARHANG
lakkurdistan 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
1-i dont want to answer any unpolit& racist FARS(With my respect 4 all of that farses who belive in same rights 4 evry one)2-LORs are free to be persian becuse their languege is like farsi.thats up to themselve////but im KURDISH LAK &my langueige &my blood is KURDish so no one can make busines about us specially some unrespect peopel who has foolishly enemy with kurds
lakkurdistan 3 years ago
persianos u proofed u r realy unaducated person its shame on any polite person to swearing to a comunity or a natione/its not ur busines to talk between lors & kurds we are 2 nations with one origin/and we leaving in peace
lakkurdistan 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
Well by reading ur comment ur more of the unaducated person than me, laks are closer to lors than kurds. Lors in turn see them selves more closer to persians than kurds.
I have every right to participate in these discussions as im a Lor aswell, my mother is LOR, she belongs to FOLADVAND family of Lorestan!
Persianos1 3 years ago
Dont worry lakkurdistan, persianos, is a fars and not lor, and so he has no power of reasoning, thats why he crying, shouting and insulting. thats showing his leverl of education as and internet illitrate. he has no manner and honour, so he is excused, its better to live him alone to bark like a dog, as much as he like cause thats what he is.
KurdistanPlanetarium 3 years ago
dear ahantabarzin:i dont know who u are but iwana tell u im a iranian kurish LAK from noorabad(delfan)we dont want any one call us lor or any other nation& idont call lors kurd/so why u getting angry or swearing to kurds?what do u want to proof?
lakkurdistan 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
Mr ahantabarzin, here is one lakkurdistan who tells you he is a real kurd. its time you too consider your position and come back to your senses and accept the will of history, that lors are truly kurdish. long live lori-kurdistsn
KurdistanPlanetarium 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
when he say he is a kurd then he is a kurd and i have respect for him and his believes, so do you.
KurdistanPlanetarium 3 years ago
Im half Lor and half persian but 100% Iranian, Respect to all Iranians around the world. The civilized kurds know they are Iranians and its only the uncivilized barbarian mountain kurds who think they are something else, probably animals like this sheepfucker here "FuckerOfMedia"!
Zende bad har Irani ke ghalbesh baraye Iran zamin mitape!!
Persianos 3 years ago 2
he is not iranian kord he is iraqhi so do not worry a bout him
milkandkisses78 3 years ago
you mr idiot how can u be half-half, if one of your parent is fars, then dont try to discus kurdish-lori problem, because u have farsi blood to say kurd as barbarian, i think we dont have bloody islamic rule to impose barbaric laws on our people like u do in Iran, against woman and ohter deprived populations, u still executing by dozens daily, we dont, so who is barbarian mr Persianos.
KurdistanPlanetarium 3 years ago
Its funny how u say "we" persians impose barbarian islamic laws and on women, when we all know that kurdish people treat their women as an inferior individual not to mention the murders in the name of "honor" u animals are so famous for, so dont be such a hippocrytical fuck.Btw i wont mention about the murders and rapes u guys comite against innocent people who try to pass the borders, so why dont u just stfu u kurdish sheepfucker
Persianos1 3 years ago
And another thing, i can join any discussion that has to do with Iran, persians or lors or whatever that i feel like, my mother is Lor and im PROUD of it!! So when an illiterate fuck like u comes and tell us that Lors are kurds u comite a MAJOR offence, we are Lor/persian = human, not kurdish animals who still after 4000 years of civilization still lives in caves!
Persianos1 3 years ago
You have no honour and respect on this site and use dirty word, then tell me who is illetrate bastard. we kurd claim our rights as kurds in ur damn country and loris as kurd, since that is our hostoric rights no mtatter how u shout and insult, u damn illetrate fars, we kurd have the best of model of Democractic rules after Israel in Middle East and u fars still live in time of ur 1400 years ago imams.
KurdistanPlanetarium 3 years ago
Your both ignorant and illiterate, why the hell cant u understand that Lors dont count themselves as kurds, they see themselves as Iranians wich u guys dont, and if u feel so oppressed by Iran so why dont u guys just get the hell out of Iran?
Persianos1 3 years ago
we will get the hell out of Iran, but not without taking Kurdistan and Luristan with us, u damn fars why not go to an american site and discuss ur Neuclear power with them, what the hell u doing here interfering with us kurd & lor, u get the hell out of this site, since your point of view is not count at ll, you are fars, meaning u have blood enemy to both of us, so get lost. long live lori-kurdistan.
KurdistanPlanetarium 3 years ago
Why the hell cant u get it in to ur thick skull that Lors dont consider themselves to be kurds, they se them selves more related to persians. And beside that Lors are patriotic Iranian and great Heroes of Iran in every war Iran had to fight. First sign of war and Lors are first on place to defend Iran zamin, not like u traitor kurds who instead of fighting for Iran join the enemey side instead!
Lors are Iranian and have their country wich is Iran, they dont want to belong to ur Kurdistan.
Persianos1 3 years ago
you who tell kurd traitor damn u, have u ever fought for Iran, i did as a kurdish Peshmargeg i was fighting side by side Iranian as an ally during the bloody 8 yrs was with Iraq, and we kurd paid a heavy price when u lost the war. so show some respect idiot, kurds are warriors. the only traitor is u, maybe ur Mojahedeen and collaborated with Iraq. long live lori-kurdistan.
KurdistanPlanetarium 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
To us kurdish nationlity is what matter and not religion. we have many minority religion living with us (christian, yazidi, zardasthi...etc), and they are as much kurd as i, none of them deny that, not like u. so we accept u no matter what, we have many many kurdish Shia, in all part of kurdistan what is wrong with that mr ahantabarzin. by the way Ali is my big brother and he still live in kurdistan.
KurdistanPlanetarium 3 years ago
I just cant help laughing my ass of, do u guys really live in a dream? U guys democratic?? After Israel who u suppose to be nr!? The treatment of the palestinian people is very demcratic indeed, the way u guys treat ur women by honormurders are sooo democratic, they way u guys fight eachother even tho soranis, kurmanji are the same animals, u guys have drifted so much apart even tho u live so close together that u now how 2 diffirent languages not dialects, very funny indeed, plz stfu!
Persianos1 3 years ago
it is very like Gurani kurdish.
FireOfMedia2 3 years ago
milkandkisses78 dasakam beger benari sakhta sara benara homari takhta . del ha va tamat del aram ava shole mah dima va ser klawa liva do diryet machoo = (Sorani Kurdish) Dastkama Bgra bnari Sakhta, Sara bnera homari takhta. Dl ha wa tamat dl aram awa, shuli mah dime wasar kllawa! So be Quieteeeeeeeeeeee
FireOfMedia2 3 years ago
ahantabarzin any thing else?
FireOfMedia2 3 years ago
yes I want you to behave like a jentilman not like a low life full of complex do not use your feeling use your mind than we will be ok now take it easy and respect other people we wont see the freedam that we want but it is going to happend some day in future
milkandkisses78 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
ahantabarzin aha lol so you mean You (lors,laki kurds,gurani kurds...) are Kurds? but we are outsiders(greek,armenian...) hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ahahahahahahahhahahah way way wayyyyyyyy hhhhhhhhhhhhghghghhhg
FireOfMedia2 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
this is the way to talk to you OK
milkandkisses78 3 years ago
Who has said that Laks are Lors? Laks are the ancient Kurds of Hamadan.
FireOfMedia2 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
trancelate dasakam beger benari sakhta sara benara homari takhta . del ha va tamat del aram ava shole mah dima va ser klawa liva do diryet machoo vea vava not even one arabic word in this song
milkandkisses78 3 years ago
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ahantabarzin 3 years ago
fuck n hell!!!!what u arguing over?IS here a ... to talk...?its easy to become a godger but its hard to become a HUMAN
lakkurdistan 3 years ago