@bart hey fool, if ignorant people would follow the correct construction safety procedures this would have never happened. Take an OSHA safety class and learn something douchebag!
@macssvt This happens all the time. I work in the directional drilling field and can say that over the past ten years (since utility owners started contracting out the locating of their lines) it has gotten horrible. I can't even put a number to the unmarked and mis-marked lines I've encountered. OSHA has nothing to do with it, when you pay some guy from a temp agency 9.00 an hour to mark crucial lines, this is what you get.
Disregard my last post; after viewing the video again I saw a man come out of the trench he probably was cutting a cable thinking it was died. Or jackhammering through a cable covered with pc pipe and concrete thinking it was a rock, I did see a compressor hose. Nevertheless, I think it was the fault of the supervisor and engineer.
There should have been some kind of pc pipe around the cables and sometimes the pips are covered with concrete It was probably a misunderstanding between the laborer and operator because I don’t think someone would cut a pipe just like that most likely the cable was cut by the backhoe and then they backed it up to be safe.
@CGrasser3613310730 I don't know how it is in your country, but when some digging is needed in my country there is mandatory to explore maps of underground networks+locate. In some cases we were able to get records of pipes even from 19th century. When i have to dig on my land, i have to make prove of existency or no existency of networks under my land.
Shit sometimes happens. Especially when many networks crosses. For example when plumbers fixed water leakage they cutted optical cables nearby
"Ah! Okay, it looks like it's gone out. Lower me down on the rear bucket and pat it down with it. I'll help keep the fire under control by peeing on it".
Guy at a local power station some years ago was sawing through some 3 phase underground lines, sadly they weren't isolated as he had thought and the hacksaw blade went through the armour and into a phase, whereupon the blade vaporised, literally leaving two curled bits of carbon at either end of the saw. The guy emerged, shaken but alive, with his hair on end and his face blackened, still holding the saw. His mates couldn't help but laugh, partly with relief. Could've been very much worse.
and the delayed flash was the auto-recloser switch kicking in. this usually does this 3 times before completely shutting a network down. so if you ever cause a flash like this it's probably best to just get the fuck well away from it however tempting the sight of the aftermath may be. electric arcs can also cause blindness. powerful stuff
until you open the ground up you can never truly determine what is underneath the surface whether you have Cable Avoidance Tools or not. C.A.Ts don't alway show up HV cable as the current passing through it is not at the same level as a Low voltage cable. drawings of course always give a good idea, but disc-cutters should be used strictly for cutting the surface of the footpath and nothing else. you don't use it when you're already 2 foot deep anyway!!!
iv'e dug plenty of underground and whether they mark them or not you will always find something they missed. pretty easy to find considering it turns from dirt to sand if it was put in right with tape on top. and it's in conduit on top of that. however depending when and where this is you can find direct burial cable in dirt with no caution tape on top makes for a headache especially since it doesn't have to flow in nice curves or a straight line iv'e seen them put loopes in the line underground
@made4speed1 Dam right...And gas lines too people think its fun to run a backho.. Ok dig down and around a 20 inch gas line an tell me its fun and 60% of the time the city says theres nothing there when there is
They almost got taken out by the recloser... Nasty.
We had a contractor do a better trick though; cut through an 11kV steel wire armour cable with a pruning saw, while live... Then someone tried to steal an energised cable, using a hacksaw. We found the hacksaw, but no trace of the aspiring thief!
@jubaj2010 Simply: Lock out, Tag out, Try out, thats the real way mexican people do anything now, and you must to know: no body change a bulb with the ligth turned on, if somebady does must be crazy or hero, usually heroes dies.
Best regards, and impulse LoToTo, i swear: must seve lifes ;)
@riclen123 I only spoke about good safety practices I learn working in Lafarge gypsum and empowering my work team, that keep me alive, and the good safety practices that keep you alive is of course, more important than any spacial program or racist program, or war intrusion program, or false cooperation program- etc I think, so, I respect to your opinion, because it is only that, just recovered from the spam to come back in ...
@riclen123 Like Americans have never done anything stupid around power lines... I knew of a guy that touched a 55k transformer bus with his bare hand. He was very white... well, not anymore...
@riclen123 YEAH! I rented a 110 year old downtown building from some Mexicans once that they had re-wired! 14 guage wire poked in the back holes of the outlets running 150 feet from the main box with NO breakers! Almost burnt the place down 3 or 4 times, then, I RE-wired it to CODE & took it off my rent! They weren't too happy! Oh, yeah, and let's not forget thier plumbing in the bathroom! The toilet sat on a 6" wood "pedestal" & when u flushed it, it would go right into the tub! 2" PVC!!
I saw a similar incident inside an American Express building.
A pipe fitter saw cut a 8'x8' section of concrete in the building, when the digging became hard he used his jack hammer. The jack hammer got stuck. When he shoveled the dirt away he found he had penetrated a 4" distribution conduit and had parted 4160Volt cables parallel with his 4" spade bit.. Had the bit been rotated any more and he would have had a phase to phase explosion.
This is 100% the cutter's fault. Whoever cut the line is responsible for the damage. There is markout in the street--you can see it in the foreground, so the utilities have been marked. After that, it becomes the excavator's responsibility to make sure they dig carefully. It looks like they were hand-digging around the cables (which they probably found with that backhoe) and somehow damaged them. Maybe the hoe hit it, and when they tried to expose it with a shovel they grounded it out.
In California we have a a thing called a Underground Service Alert. If you're going to break ground, a USA is issued. Any company that owns an underground cable in the area is supposed to spraypaint the ground showing where the cable is. If they don't, massive fines. If that video was shot in CA, some power utility would get fined up the ass.
@faackoof I've got news for you. The City workers are the most highly trained and experienced ones. (LA DWP). You might try making it through the 3 year EDMT training program without failing before shooting off your mouth. Other utilities gladly hire "City" linemen. The contractors have to have an experienced City worker be with them at all times (a "safety observer") to make sure they don't get into anything bad. And a City worker would have placed a bid to clear up the cable.
Can I ask you why you had to empathize that it was an irish builder? Anybody can make a mistake and " stupid Irish builders " built most of the houses built in England during the 1900's and they seem to be still standing? Save your ignorant stereotypes for people who are stupid enough to acknowledge you.
its the cutters fault. most surveys arn't for electrical services, its for communication and other utilities. you take extra procautions when you get certain depth, and areas around streets and buildings. tread softly
Blame it on the surveyor, providing that they had that area of construction surveyed and painted out. This needs to be done before any excavation can be done especially cutting!
It would have been high voltage, but not high tension. You're thinking of the 50k volt long distance transmission lines on towers. But yeah, the question still stands: Someone didn't think about turning off the juice first?
Haha Burn19ballz i was gonna say the samething! Lol,. There all about perfection but hell look who fucked things up lol
codeman883 1 month ago
@bart hey fool, if ignorant people would follow the correct construction safety procedures this would have never happened. Take an OSHA safety class and learn something douchebag!
macssvt 1 month ago
@macssvt This happens all the time. I work in the directional drilling field and can say that over the past ten years (since utility owners started contracting out the locating of their lines) it has gotten horrible. I can't even put a number to the unmarked and mis-marked lines I've encountered. OSHA has nothing to do with it, when you pay some guy from a temp agency 9.00 an hour to mark crucial lines, this is what you get.
iowacableguy 1 week ago
I guess they didn't call JULIE :(
sk8er4ever0101 1 week ago
that's why you shouldn't hire illegal immigrants.
burn19ballz 2 months ago
Disregard my last post; after viewing the video again I saw a man come out of the trench he probably was cutting a cable thinking it was died. Or jackhammering through a cable covered with pc pipe and concrete thinking it was a rock, I did see a compressor hose. Nevertheless, I think it was the fault of the supervisor and engineer.
TheAlex5552 3 months ago
There should have been some kind of pc pipe around the cables and sometimes the pips are covered with concrete It was probably a misunderstanding between the laborer and operator because I don’t think someone would cut a pipe just like that most likely the cable was cut by the backhoe and then they backed it up to be safe.
TheAlex5552 3 months ago
@CGrasser3613310730 I don't know how it is in your country, but when some digging is needed in my country there is mandatory to explore maps of underground networks+locate. In some cases we were able to get records of pipes even from 19th century. When i have to dig on my land, i have to make prove of existency or no existency of networks under my land.
Shit sometimes happens. Especially when many networks crosses. For example when plumbers fixed water leakage they cutted optical cables nearby
rybaluc 3 months ago
Mexicants
xmas4all 3 months ago
ill bet a high ranking engineer mapped out that dig
dedflesh 4 months ago
Wish this had sound to go with it.
BankaiIchigo12345 4 months ago
Typical fucking monkeys.
No-one has a clue who does what and where OR HOW.
No-one can sack the useless cunts otherwise their union will bring the entire company down.
Isn't modern life great.
bertyUK 4 months ago
"Ah! Okay, it looks like it's gone out. Lower me down on the rear bucket and pat it down with it. I'll help keep the fire under control by peeing on it".
digitalbroadcaster 5 months ago
hope they got fired !! get the hell out of there and call electric company a holes
Electricienbatard 5 months ago
The only thing they did wright was having 2 exits out of the hole. Let your check be your guide to down the road electric.
racebends 5 months ago
What they are saying? "Hey Joe, get the sticks and the marshmellows."
DOLRED 5 months ago
What they needed was an escort. Nerc certified of coarse
heavycash24 5 months ago
1:07
"Fuck this job I QUIT! Whos with me?"
-Everybody walks away with a cool face on-
MoreLikeCappuccino 6 months ago
Energizzzzzzzzzzed!!!
macssvt 6 months ago 6
@macssvt this is NOT FUNNY ...somebody can die idiot
bartekjaskula 1 month ago
i like that way they walk away like ... I didnt do it
jasowink 6 months ago
see what happens when you let mexicans play with power?
MrFITHsleezy 7 months ago
@MrFITHsleezy haha thats a good one.
kc5cxu 5 months ago
thats what you get for cooking bacon in a hole!
506jimbob 7 months ago
mmmmmmmm laid off.
caveman175 8 months ago
Can't belive that guy crawled out of there alive !
dronai 9 months ago
Where's the safety protocols?
Testiesful 9 months ago
well done
flamesecure 9 months ago
break time
alderaforall 9 months ago
doesn't the automatic breaker try to restore the power like 3 times in the row before it shuts down? I gues that might be why the arc came back.
OK2BCK 10 months ago
Guy at a local power station some years ago was sawing through some 3 phase underground lines, sadly they weren't isolated as he had thought and the hacksaw blade went through the armour and into a phase, whereupon the blade vaporised, literally leaving two curled bits of carbon at either end of the saw. The guy emerged, shaken but alive, with his hair on end and his face blackened, still holding the saw. His mates couldn't help but laugh, partly with relief. Could've been very much worse.
G0IFI 10 months ago
i wonder what'll happen if i cut this...OH SHIT!!!maybe i shouldn't have cut that...lol
wally49909 10 months ago
and the delayed flash was the auto-recloser switch kicking in. this usually does this 3 times before completely shutting a network down. so if you ever cause a flash like this it's probably best to just get the fuck well away from it however tempting the sight of the aftermath may be. electric arcs can also cause blindness. powerful stuff
dbudge218 11 months ago
until you open the ground up you can never truly determine what is underneath the surface whether you have Cable Avoidance Tools or not. C.A.Ts don't alway show up HV cable as the current passing through it is not at the same level as a Low voltage cable. drawings of course always give a good idea, but disc-cutters should be used strictly for cutting the surface of the footpath and nothing else. you don't use it when you're already 2 foot deep anyway!!!
dbudge218 11 months ago
whats next?
"we should get a water hose to put out the flames!"
boundaryzero 11 months ago
Bet that guy was like Ooops, Did I do that?!? LOL
R3MUS2007 1 year ago
Anyone bring the hotdogs?
bigdj3 1 year ago
ohh shiett there was more juice left in he line
tatanoski666 1 year ago
iv'e dug plenty of underground and whether they mark them or not you will always find something they missed. pretty easy to find considering it turns from dirt to sand if it was put in right with tape on top. and it's in conduit on top of that. however depending when and where this is you can find direct burial cable in dirt with no caution tape on top makes for a headache especially since it doesn't have to flow in nice curves or a straight line iv'e seen them put loopes in the line underground
made4speed1 1 year ago
@made4speed1 Dam right...And gas lines too people think its fun to run a backho.. Ok dig down and around a 20 inch gas line an tell me its fun and 60% of the time the city says theres nothing there when there is
ShaunAube1 1 year ago 2
That's normal dipshit union workers for ya.
Moparskunk 1 year ago
@Moparskunk ya cause you scab morons never hit anything !
riclen123 1 year ago
@Moparskunk Only an idiot would buy a Dodge, Plymouth or Chrysler.
chooch68 11 months ago
These guys seem perfect fit to be CEO's or MDs of utility companies and get paid in gazillions !!!
Mujahid1977 1 year ago
fired,fired, and fired
tambo3lite 1 year ago
They almost got taken out by the recloser... Nasty.
We had a contractor do a better trick though; cut through an 11kV steel wire armour cable with a pruning saw, while live... Then someone tried to steal an energised cable, using a hacksaw. We found the hacksaw, but no trace of the aspiring thief!
McDaedelus 1 year ago
they shuld of turned it off?
rysliv 1 year ago
that's how a mexican worker would do it
Nnovata 1 year ago
@Nnovata Now is better if them or you apply LoToTo before any work, do you know what is it?
jubaj2010 1 year ago
@jubaj2010 No I don´t know what is that. What it is?
Nnovata 1 year ago
@jubaj2010 Simply: Lock out, Tag out, Try out, thats the real way mexican people do anything now, and you must to know: no body change a bulb with the ligth turned on, if somebady does must be crazy or hero, usually heroes dies.
Best regards, and impulse LoToTo, i swear: must seve lifes ;)
jubaj2010 1 year ago
@jubaj2010 " The real way mexican people do anything" lol! So progressive! hows your space program going?
riclen123 1 year ago
@riclen123 I only spoke about good safety practices I learn working in Lafarge gypsum and empowering my work team, that keep me alive, and the good safety practices that keep you alive is of course, more important than any spacial program or racist program, or war intrusion program, or false cooperation program- etc I think, so, I respect to your opinion, because it is only that, just recovered from the spam to come back in ...
jubaj2010 1 year ago
@riclen123 Like Americans have never done anything stupid around power lines... I knew of a guy that touched a 55k transformer bus with his bare hand. He was very white... well, not anymore...
TheSqeeek 11 months ago
@riclen123 YEAH! I rented a 110 year old downtown building from some Mexicans once that they had re-wired! 14 guage wire poked in the back holes of the outlets running 150 feet from the main box with NO breakers! Almost burnt the place down 3 or 4 times, then, I RE-wired it to CODE & took it off my rent! They weren't too happy! Oh, yeah, and let's not forget thier plumbing in the bathroom! The toilet sat on a 6" wood "pedestal" & when u flushed it, it would go right into the tub! 2" PVC!!
seatboi 11 months ago
I saw a similar incident inside an American Express building.
A pipe fitter saw cut a 8'x8' section of concrete in the building, when the digging became hard he used his jack hammer. The jack hammer got stuck. When he shoveled the dirt away he found he had penetrated a 4" distribution conduit and had parted 4160Volt cables parallel with his 4" spade bit.. Had the bit been rotated any more and he would have had a phase to phase explosion.
Very expensive repair in this situation.
invista360 1 year ago
The solution is called a hydrovac
TheMoses35 1 year ago
This is 100% the cutter's fault. Whoever cut the line is responsible for the damage. There is markout in the street--you can see it in the foreground, so the utilities have been marked. After that, it becomes the excavator's responsibility to make sure they dig carefully. It looks like they were hand-digging around the cables (which they probably found with that backhoe) and somehow damaged them. Maybe the hoe hit it, and when they tried to expose it with a shovel they grounded it out.
russdonruss 1 year ago
The truth of the matter is that society has not placed technical solutions to these problems.
blaming people will not stop future problems like this.
bighands69 1 year ago
In California we have a a thing called a Underground Service Alert. If you're going to break ground, a USA is issued. Any company that owns an underground cable in the area is supposed to spraypaint the ground showing where the cable is. If they don't, massive fines. If that video was shot in CA, some power utility would get fined up the ass.
jiakenmin 1 year ago
what you have stated is a regulation and practice.
but it is not a technical solution. When human judgement and actions are required the error rate increases.
the only way to lower the error rate is a technical solution.
A fine will only work after the event not before.
bighands69 1 year ago
those guys are dumb, lets go see what that was.. ohhhh shit!!! its not over!!!
croakerchoker504 2 years ago 19
@croakerchoker504 that's cause their city workers and not electricians. all they have is a grade 10 education
faackoof 1 year ago
@faackoof I've got news for you. The City workers are the most highly trained and experienced ones. (LA DWP). You might try making it through the 3 year EDMT training program without failing before shooting off your mouth. Other utilities gladly hire "City" linemen. The contractors have to have an experienced City worker be with them at all times (a "safety observer") to make sure they don't get into anything bad. And a City worker would have placed a bid to clear up the cable.
metermatch 1 year ago
@croakerchoker504 Their names were Pedro, Juan and Ramon..
amper0003 11 months ago
@livefreeinuk1
Can I ask you why you had to empathize that it was an irish builder? Anybody can make a mistake and " stupid Irish builders " built most of the houses built in England during the 1900's and they seem to be still standing? Save your ignorant stereotypes for people who are stupid enough to acknowledge you.
swatka2580 2 years ago
as homer simpson whood say DOHHH XD i want to see somthing like that for real looks cool but the are stupid to get closer
ljmike1204 2 years ago
They survey for underground electrical cables too.
bbertens 2 years ago
its the cutters fault. most surveys arn't for electrical services, its for communication and other utilities. you take extra procautions when you get certain depth, and areas around streets and buildings. tread softly
soccerstylez8705 2 years ago
Blame it on the surveyor, providing that they had that area of construction surveyed and painted out. This needs to be done before any excavation can be done especially cutting!
mgreene1967 2 years ago
Not the surveyor, it's the fault of the locating service, OR, the guys doing the digging without locating the lines first.
IC2720 2 years ago
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it happened near my house in london uklast week 11kv cable dug up by irish builder, enough said
livefreeinuk1 2 years ago
u know the copper turns into vapor.the bus bars r desing to melt, thats why the fire is minimized.
bossou5555 2 years ago
Bus bars are not designed to melt.
chucklezhaha 2 years ago
Hmm...now i finally know how this looks, thanks...my father once told me about a similar accident he witnessed when he was a boy.....
Mrpsychotehpyro 2 years ago
lololol Love how there like, oh yeah, what idiot did this, sure wasn't us! Dumb pedestrians.
talktoyourself 2 years ago
idiots
wallpaperkilla 2 years ago
...And a Prius drives by. Hahahahaha...
shadynebey 3 years ago
12KV....Wish there was something left of the SawZall blade they vaporized!
macssvt 3 years ago 7
What the hell were they doing cutting through a live, high-tension electrical cable like that? What were they thinking??
Erzahler 3 years ago
It would have been high voltage, but not high tension. You're thinking of the 50k volt long distance transmission lines on towers. But yeah, the question still stands: Someone didn't think about turning off the juice first?
tgrigsby7 3 years ago 2
Call for a locate BEFORE you dig!
rawtorque 3 years ago 26
Ah yes this reminds me when a construction crew dug right through a gas main just a block from my house. OOPS!
mturgeon2 3 years ago
That'll be contractors hitting an HV cable then!!
Banditman76 3 years ago
q merda
thariell 3 years ago
q merda
thariell 3 years ago
oops
yodhe 3 years ago