Lol @ "that is why your cupcakes were dry". So true but so funny!!!!!!! I need to send my cake students here so they can realize, I am not making this stuff up!
I usually measure 5.0oz for a cup for a recipe in cups and it doesn't steer me wrong, especially for breads. When I started out I used 4.25oz for each cup, and I always had to add more flour for the consistency to be right.
Thank u Chef John for pointing this out. I always thought I was a lazy cook. I measure everything I can with a scale, even water (1 g per ml) - I just put mixing bowl on the scale then set it to zero before adding anything in (so that I don't have to wash measuring spoons :p). I felt a bit guilty about it because I don't seem to be a meticulous and responsible person in kitchen, but now I feel better because scaling everything is the correct and guilt-free way! Yay!!!
I discovered this a few years ago and it has made all the difference. I usually weigh my flour now. When I make bread I don't even get out the measuring cups anymore. I use ratios for my bread recipes and it is remarkably consistent.
Thing is, i have an old analogue scale where it has a bowl on top of a pressure pad which sends a dial round. All i do is fill that until i get the desired weight. No cups for me regarding flour (apart form making it easier to get out of the bag.) But i use the scales as weight rather than volume. I just wonder, does this apply to other products such as sugar as well or is it specifically flour?
I imagine he's speaking in relation to how much it used to cost to find a digital scale... you used to not be able to find them for less than 3 times that much.
I took a dessert class at the John C. Campbell Folk School and converted several of my fellow students to weighing flour on a digital scale. I also weigh the container of flour or sugar, zero out the entire container, and get a negative count for the stuff I remove.
Someone asked about humidity. A humid day will not add enough weight to be significant.
Then there are the folks who act like basic instructions like how to weigh flour are stupid. These poor people are just insecure and wish to demonstrate knowledge. It's hard not to get angry at them, just try to remember that they have this sad need to show everyone that they know something. This probably comes from emotional abuse in childhood. They are more to be pitied than censured.
i see alot of recipes that call for x cups or x oz of flour and always wondered what a cup SHOULD weigh. thanx for the tip. now i just need to find good recipes that tell me weight rather than cups. all my bread maker recipes are cups, and i find it's a 50-50 chance if my bread actually makes it out as light fluffy bread.
@HeavenlyMakeUp You can't trust a cookbook to tell you how much your flour or sugar weighs. The nutrition facts on the flour package will tell you how many grams are in a volume serving, like one serving = 1 tablespoon (15g), so 1 cup of flour = 16 tablespoons * 15 g/tablespoon = 240g. This works for sugar too.
I had a chef hand me a recipe that called for 5 scoops of flour. It did not say what size scoop to use. After many failed attempts I had to look at a simular recipe to get a ratio of sugar to flour in weight. Only then did the recipe come out great. I never told him the ratio so when he tried it, FAIL! One of the worst chef's I ever worked for.
Great video, I started doing this about a year ago and has made all the difference. This is a great explanation and illustration of your point. I am going to recommend this video to many friends.
i'm sorry chef john.. usually i like watching you videos, but that.. are you serious with that?
i mean.. it never came to my mind to bake without using a scale - isn't that essentially for baking? i don't want to offend anybody, but it is totally logic that you don't get the right amount of flour when you just use a cup, isn't it?
hmm but this obviousness can also be connected that i am from germany - i don't really know how you bake there where you live :D
there are alot of people that dont think this is so very obvious, because maybe they havent learned what you have, so dont call it pointless, he is doing it for the people that dont know these things
there was a time when u were a beginner, so dont be a smartass
oh i don't wanted to be a smartass. i forgot to mention that watching this video was senceless for me - and i guess also for a lot of other people - though there are truly also a lot of them who liked it. and to be honest.. i would call myself a beginner.. maybe a little more. but the thing is that i just never used a recipe with 'cups' - and i didn't know that such a bunch of people just use cups to measure their flour, but thats ok :D now i'm wiser xD
uhhh how bout european standard is done with weight for dry ingredients. Seeing as chef john is american and many of his viewers are american, where it is extremely uncommon for households to have scales and instead measure by cups and the such, this video makes sense for his american viewers who would have no idea how or why scales work or are better.
I have an electronic scale and my country uses metric but I still like the cups and spoons. They just make things simpler. Easier to memorize recipes. Sometimes, u don't have a scale but still want to bake something from scratch. So, the cups come in handy. I've even used tea cups :-) Besides, I don't think 20-30g of flour difference in a regular size cake will alter anything much.
Is it 4.3 oz's for one cup of any flour or just for all purpose? I'm wondering because I use a couple different kinds of flour for different things I am baking.
just dont press down your flour when you measure it, you should be ok. also, if you sift the flour, you will actually lose a little bit of the flour. so also want to adjust for that.
I've been meaning to ask you this, Chef John. Can you show us a recipe for no knead/no baking powder/soda yeast only chocolate chip cookies? I just made the bittman no knead bread and was very pleased, so now I want to see how this can apply that kind of simplicity to chocolate chip cookies...
so you dont need to buy the cups and instead the a scale??
2000hahahas 1 week ago
Lol @ "that is why your cupcakes were dry". So true but so funny!!!!!!! I need to send my cake students here so they can realize, I am not making this stuff up!
WilmasLegacy 4 months ago
Very, very true but there are some chefs that compress their flour and then write cookbooks based on this.
The only answer? Violence.
rasoros 4 months ago
lol 4.20
LuisPenseQue 5 months ago
I usually measure 5.0oz for a cup for a recipe in cups and it doesn't steer me wrong, especially for breads. When I started out I used 4.25oz for each cup, and I always had to add more flour for the consistency to be right.
billymanbelbrot 7 months ago
Thank u Chef John for pointing this out. I always thought I was a lazy cook. I measure everything I can with a scale, even water (1 g per ml) - I just put mixing bowl on the scale then set it to zero before adding anything in (so that I don't have to wash measuring spoons :p). I felt a bit guilty about it because I don't seem to be a meticulous and responsible person in kitchen, but now I feel better because scaling everything is the correct and guilt-free way! Yay!!!
bhyqs 8 months ago
Almost 420 everyone, planning on choosing some of chef johns recipes this year i know they will all be amazing, if i cook them correctly haha.
SkankinLozer 10 months ago
is it all the same with cocoa powder?
teddybabear 11 months ago
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tiramisuAsylum 1 year ago
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tiramisuAsylum 1 year ago
never thought of that
MacsCanfly 1 year ago
I discovered this a few years ago and it has made all the difference. I usually weigh my flour now. When I make bread I don't even get out the measuring cups anymore. I use ratios for my bread recipes and it is remarkably consistent.
Tubeglowfun 1 year ago
OR IS IT?!?!? ._.
Kerfik 1 year ago
lol enjoy wat da flour
kokoka852 1 year ago
vdo takes me to amazon and makes me order a scale!!!
i hope my baking improves considerably!!
witerainbow 1 year ago
Wow ...who knew?! Chef John...do you know the meaning of life too?
PatOst100 1 year ago
Great Information Chef John, five star ...!
Gene..
Gene756 1 year ago
i find it funny that chef john had to make a video on how to measure flour...i didnt know that, that many ppl did not know how to measure.
maybe chef john will need to make one on how to measure brown sugar next :o
snowblazer12 2 years ago
I voted for you sir
ubpost 2 years ago
Thing is, i have an old analogue scale where it has a bowl on top of a pressure pad which sends a dial round. All i do is fill that until i get the desired weight. No cups for me regarding flour (apart form making it easier to get out of the bag.) But i use the scales as weight rather than volume. I just wonder, does this apply to other products such as sugar as well or is it specifically flour?
jakamneziak 2 years ago
I wish you could teach me how to cook chef john, the teachers at FCI are really giving me a hard time !
thedonmarlo 2 years ago
Alton is hard core about weighing ingredients too.
dazigg 2 years ago
Wow thanks, now I want to go and convert every recipe! Awesome.
psychonavigator 2 years ago
ooo
secretwmp 2 years ago
I never knew this..makes sense!
8927653 2 years ago
Thanks, good tip.
itsageoffrushthing 2 years ago
I have a bunch of scales I use for other substances but never used them for cooking
Suitaful 2 years ago
@Suitaful lol i bet
barkpeeler2000 2 years ago
Duh, nobody cooks with a scale... that's what pans are for!
psychonavigator 2 years ago
OMG! why did I never think of that! just a little tid bit that opened my eyes! and duh!!, I have a scale and never use it!
1105196 2 years ago
That sound effect freaked me out.
Necrokutan 2 years ago 5
really cheap now a days
>25 bucks
Really? . .thats cheap?
ElMojadoTriste 2 years ago
I imagine he's speaking in relation to how much it used to cost to find a digital scale... you used to not be able to find them for less than 3 times that much.
Robb0h 2 years ago
1150 INR, in my currency, its hell expensive.
deepakjindal070 2 years ago
nice tip
lowdown3007 2 years ago
420lol
rhettnyedotorg 2 years ago 3
@rhettnyedotorg i saw that.....im telling ;))
Poonard 2 years ago
I took a dessert class at the John C. Campbell Folk School and converted several of my fellow students to weighing flour on a digital scale. I also weigh the container of flour or sugar, zero out the entire container, and get a negative count for the stuff I remove.
basilwhite 2 years ago
oh wow, thank you for this tip! no wonder my choc chip muffins are so dry!! :((
iml109 2 years ago
菓子作るときは測るのが原則と、フレンチシェフから言われたものですわ。
fujicity 2 years ago 2
Great video, chef!
Someone asked about humidity. A humid day will not add enough weight to be significant.
Then there are the folks who act like basic instructions like how to weigh flour are stupid. These poor people are just insecure and wish to demonstrate knowledge. It's hard not to get angry at them, just try to remember that they have this sad need to show everyone that they know something. This probably comes from emotional abuse in childhood. They are more to be pitied than censured.
foxisstupid 2 years ago
i need one of these scales... good for weed
MayhamInc 2 years ago
i see alot of recipes that call for x cups or x oz of flour and always wondered what a cup SHOULD weigh. thanx for the tip. now i just need to find good recipes that tell me weight rather than cups. all my bread maker recipes are cups, and i find it's a 50-50 chance if my bread actually makes it out as light fluffy bread.
HeavenlyMakeUp 2 years ago
@HeavenlyMakeUp You can't trust a cookbook to tell you how much your flour or sugar weighs. The nutrition facts on the flour package will tell you how many grams are in a volume serving, like one serving = 1 tablespoon (15g), so 1 cup of flour = 16 tablespoons * 15 g/tablespoon = 240g. This works for sugar too.
basilwhite 2 years ago
@basilwhite not to mention seasonal variation in humidity and temperature will affect how much a cup of flour will weigh
jagwio 2 years ago
but if the air is humid the flour picks it. so then the flour would be heavier.
wen2669 2 years ago
I had a chef hand me a recipe that called for 5 scoops of flour. It did not say what size scoop to use. After many failed attempts I had to look at a simular recipe to get a ratio of sugar to flour in weight. Only then did the recipe come out great. I never told him the ratio so when he tried it, FAIL! One of the worst chef's I ever worked for.
bibbeny 2 years ago
Thank you chef
nozdoz160 2 years ago
Great video, I started doing this about a year ago and has made all the difference. This is a great explanation and illustration of your point. I am going to recommend this video to many friends.
meknewxenu 2 years ago
i'm sorry chef john.. usually i like watching you videos, but that.. are you serious with that?
i mean.. it never came to my mind to bake without using a scale - isn't that essentially for baking? i don't want to offend anybody, but it is totally logic that you don't get the right amount of flour when you just use a cup, isn't it?
hmm but this obviousness can also be connected that i am from germany - i don't really know how you bake there where you live :D
anyway.. kind of senseless
bouncerjens 2 years ago
chill out man
BramleyAppleFun 2 years ago 3
there are alot of people that dont think this is so very obvious, because maybe they havent learned what you have, so dont call it pointless, he is doing it for the people that dont know these things
there was a time when u were a beginner, so dont be a smartass
rainbowicecreampie 2 years ago
oh i don't wanted to be a smartass. i forgot to mention that watching this video was senceless for me - and i guess also for a lot of other people - though there are truly also a lot of them who liked it. and to be honest.. i would call myself a beginner.. maybe a little more. but the thing is that i just never used a recipe with 'cups' - and i didn't know that such a bunch of people just use cups to measure their flour, but thats ok :D now i'm wiser xD
bouncerjens 2 years ago
here in america, most home cooks don't use a scale for ANYTHING, it's really shocking.
I have a german friend who has scolded my american friends for not using a scale, haha.
Jealkeja 2 years ago 3
uhhh how bout european standard is done with weight for dry ingredients. Seeing as chef john is american and many of his viewers are american, where it is extremely uncommon for households to have scales and instead measure by cups and the such, this video makes sense for his american viewers who would have no idea how or why scales work or are better.
anarchyangel202 2 years ago 2
Oh no! People don't bake like you! You should post here and be a giant downer about it! Excellent job.
thefinewino 2 years ago
i totally agree.
AbstractMan23 2 years ago
Awesome tip John!
opeth84 2 years ago
Beginner baker here. Thanks for the tip!!!
oOpsychochickOo 2 years ago
You got my vote amigo
BrokeToeProductions 2 years ago
thanks
VAStudi0z 2 years ago
Wooooo!!
4.20!
my bday =]
NightWind420 2 years ago
that's what my momma taught me! mommas are always right!!
gozosa1980 2 years ago 3
Good information to be honest. Thanks chef John!
pablolankenau 2 years ago
My food wish is for a hooker to jump out of a cake at me.
llollercoaster 2 years ago
ya good luck finding any American recipes that actually give you the weight.
this is the problem with America, the stupid "American style" unit measurement...while everyone else in the world uses metric systems.
houchi69 2 years ago
as a passionate home baker, i think the "cup" is the most stupid and impractical way of measuring flour - or anything.
ok even worse is the "1/3 cup"... arghhhh
it's highly inaccurate.
just go with grams and you cannot go wrong!!!
message to all chefs: please stop publishing books and recipes in "cups" and go with grams :-)
AbstractMan23 2 years ago 30
ya good luck with that.
houchi69 2 years ago
@AbstractMan23
I have an electronic scale and my country uses metric but I still like the cups and spoons. They just make things simpler. Easier to memorize recipes. Sometimes, u don't have a scale but still want to bake something from scratch. So, the cups come in handy. I've even used tea cups :-) Besides, I don't think 20-30g of flour difference in a regular size cake will alter anything much.
BlissfulWishes 1 year ago
This is one of the most useful tips I've ever seen.
prettyinpunk666 2 years ago 6
ive been telling people this for years maybe they will listen to you.
great job
DEADMAN780 2 years ago 2
Whoa weird. There's only 2 related videos.
Or are there? O.o
jkshoujk 2 years ago
thanks for that info chef - awesome stuff
DeadEye1968 2 years ago
yeah chef...the only thing i ever "packed" was brown sugar
001q2w3e 2 years ago
Great tip. Thanks a lot!
sunshinelyy 2 years ago
This is an incredibly helpful video. Thanks Chef John!
IJest 2 years ago
cool video. anyone know where to get the piano music from?
troglodyte3344 2 years ago
iMovie. It's called "Buddy".
jaycherith 2 years ago
wow great tip...
thx
Sarah1627 2 years ago
thanky you for the info
absolutblue 2 years ago
I did not know that! Thank you for the tip, now my cakes and things won't be dry.Especially since I don't have a scale.
LadyofTheSummer 2 years ago
you're a great chef. No doubt about it. Thank you so much for everyting!
FantasyAngel707 2 years ago
Alton Brown recommended this on his show on the food network.
cyoohoos 2 years ago 2
ya he just copied it.
houchi69 2 years ago
Is it 4.3 oz's for one cup of any flour or just for all purpose? I'm wondering because I use a couple different kinds of flour for different things I am baking.
tofuEtr 2 years ago
just dont press down your flour when you measure it, you should be ok. also, if you sift the flour, you will actually lose a little bit of the flour. so also want to adjust for that.
houchi69 2 years ago
Thanks Chef John, I now know why my Scones and Mini Dampers are so dry and crumbly.
blackhat47 2 years ago
scones are usually dry just because they have less fat in it too, not necessarily means they have too much flour.
houchi69 2 years ago
Ive been always told to sift the flower for baking. Sift a bunch then just scoop up the flour.
Teldara 2 years ago
i use this scale to weigh marijuana
AngryLlamaz 2 years ago
Voted
Jophie12 2 years ago
nice tip! this is sooo true!
bubbles02010 2 years ago
too much...me and my fam is old school and our cakes and pies come out just fine without weighting our stuff
collegebrat122088 2 years ago
lmfao 420
simpathy232 2 years ago
420!
Julianhache 2 years ago
i hate the cup measurements... i prefer grams as a european :-)
lauweroos 2 years ago 3
are you a dealer, john?
Ramsez 2 years ago 2
HAHAHA
TheUnknownDungeon 2 years ago
Voted for you Chef John, good luck!
psyslo 2 years ago
OR IS IT !!!! >:O
test804 2 years ago
woooow.. it tells u grams AND kg .. cus douing the math from grams to KG is JUST TO HARD FOR PPL.. WTF...
MrsRandomMadeMeDoIt 2 years ago
.....Words.
morph5690 2 years ago
"Only in America..."
No offense, but the "cup-measuring" is just stupid :)
andersbrtlsn 2 years ago
Ok, totally random, but where did you get the flour canister?? I've been looking for one exactly like it!!
daniellexylena 2 years ago
Chef John has all the best kitchen equipment, how I envy him. :(
janaswang 2 years ago 2
@janaswang i dont see anything super fancy, you can buy stuff just like that at walmart.
faylinameir 2 years ago
I vote for you Chef :o)
jlite 2 years ago
I've been meaning to ask you this, Chef John. Can you show us a recipe for no knead/no baking powder/soda yeast only chocolate chip cookies? I just made the bittman no knead bread and was very pleased, so now I want to see how this can apply that kind of simplicity to chocolate chip cookies...
iamafractal 2 years ago
No wonder i am always having to adjust the amount of water in my bread recipe!
montaramike 2 years ago
Thanks Chef John! BTW the smothered pork chops are awesome!
imtang0708 2 years ago
Good video, what most people don't think of is that bakers, they ALWAYS weight their ingredients.
It's very important.
Fatcaesar 2 years ago
that sound effect scared the hell out of me.
srm8ib4 2 years ago
Omg me too! when the video went up to 46 seconds. And it was much louder than the rest of the video.
YaoMingLily 2 years ago
Thanks, I bet that's why sometimes I like my cookies better than others!!!
Does that hold true for brown sugar, or should you pack it????
regamom3 2 years ago
@regamom3
normally you would pack brown sugar because it's i guess u can say..
rough?
Jeetard 2 years ago
I have the same question
4MidnightBreeze 2 years ago
Ok... I NEED you to do some cast iron cooking... Please, I just got a dutch oven and I can't get anything to work for me??
speckalou 2 years ago
@speckalou Curious, what problem(s) you are having?
Kashmir2000is 2 years ago
Sticking... It is seasoned and I'm not using high heat... I just don't know???
speckalou 2 years ago
I do wonder why people don't use more precise measurments like ounces or grams, and not cups.
As you just demonstrated it's not exactly precise depending on how you pack the cup. ;-)
Doesn't help when you live in a country which do not have anything similar to a cup...
Still, thanks for the info.
xixit 2 years ago
hmmm white powder... scale. You sure that's flour?
wafflethug 2 years ago
it an be starch :P
DeeHong 2 years ago
diff between pro and noob
pubtor 2 years ago
perfect analysis
Titan001 2 years ago
Chef, thanks!!!! you're awesome.
sostav 2 years ago
IM FAMOUS lol
EccentricPuzzle 2 years ago
ooo we have those stainless steel cups lol
EccentricPuzzle 2 years ago
I was always told that the only think you that you should press down when measuring w/ cups and whatnot is brown sugar
mickysantos 2 years ago
yea
fannypenis 2 years ago