Darvish Golnazar - Tanbur

[pogoism1]

Yeah Yeah everythin is turkish... sumer, scytians, akkadians, 10 years ago even kurds were mountain-turks :D typical fascist garbage. Tanbour is a sumerian instrument which only survived in the goran/guran/hawraman/horaman region of iranian kurdistan. The Dotar of Khorasan is not only played by turkemens but played by kurds in khorasan too. It is commonly known that kurds live in khorasan, since the 16th century and some thousand in herat (afghanistan), too.

[alperim66]

this is a tpycially a turkish instrument..all middle asia called it as a dombra..we called kopuz or bağlama in Turkey..But we say tanbur to an other instrument.Espically Arab and Kurdish people plays it..But this insturement is not tanbur in this video is a typically turkish insturement dombra,kopuz or bağlama..you can watch in youtube..also kazakh and mongolians plays it with same playing style..if you listen some songs you will see its abit like horse running sound..

[NawrozNawrozi]

dast xosh barasti xosha u har beji

[keeelane]

soooo, beautiful

[NimaSun]

This is the same guy who played on Shahram Nazeri's Avazeh Asatir.

[pouyaafshar]

Nope. That's Alireza Feiz Bashipour. Golnazar azizi was a member of Shams.

[TalatPasha1915]

Api Papai's wife; means "mother" in Turk languages.

Atei Scythian king, whose name is a common Turk word meaning "father".

Eir Scythian noun "man". This word has the same meaning in Turk: "eir", "er".

Tagi Scythian word "thread"; coincides with the same Turk word.

Jün in Scythian and Turk means "wool".

[babataher]

The very word "Scolotes", evidently distorted by Ellines, sounded as "Skhilti" in the original language of Scythians, which refers to the upper strata of the society in Karachai-Balkarian. The common origin of these three tribes from the fore-farther of all the Scythians Targitaios was indicated in this way.

[babataher]

Mr. Mohandess and Doktor ; Please, do not compare apple and pear. I would like to continue our discussion Academically.

(French people and Persian word "Bazar")

[rizepor]

Dear, apple and pear are both fruits ... I'm not member of any History Academy, i'm just reading scientific papers about it ; you should discuss about that with scholars and experts in that matter ; i gave you some links few days ago.

Here is a place for music ; explain me the difference between Kurdish Tanbur and Turkmen or Khorassani Dotar ! They are so similar, but no one can prove that Dotar is older than Tanbur or that Tanbur was brought in Iran by Scythians.

[Shirio77]

rizepor,

Apple and pears are fruit? How about Strawberry? That is fruit or vegetable? Why waisting time on whether Chicken came first or egg? Fact is, Both instrument were borne from same culture! Read Professor Abe, the Japanese scholar on EASTERN Instrument or even on Western instrument and you will see they all come from same CULTURE! Whether it was Barbad Jahromi in Sassanid Era or Zaryab Jahromi in Spain!

[Shirio77]

cont!

Tanbour and Dotar are same but different derivatives of Tar! Different Iranian tribes favored slightly different modified instrument but the MOGHAM or DASTGAAH are the same! That is the point!

[babataher]

Targitaios had three sons: Lipoxaios, Arpaxaios and Kolaxaios. The first of them gave birth to Scythians Auchates, the second to Katiares, and the third to Parallates. Their common name was Scolotes. We can immediately see that all these names are definitely of the Turk origin and can easily be explained on the basis of Karachai-Balkarian and other Turk languages and dialects.

[babataher]

By the words of Herodotos , Scythians thought that they were born in a deserted land from the first man called Targitaios, whose parents were a daughter of the river Dnieper (Borisphenes) and Scythian god of thunder corresponding to Greek Zeus.

[babataher]

They told that these peoples lead a nomadic life, living in felt tents (yurts) on the carriages, with their children and household articles.Describing the territory of Scythia, its boundaries and rivers, its neighbors, military campaigns etc., the ancient authors said nothing about the Scythian language. So, we can judge about the language of Scythians only by just a few mentioned personal names, the names of some things, or the names of places and rivers.

[babataher]

Ancient Greek and Roman authors are the main source of written evidence about Scythians and Sarmats.Among them, one could especially note Herodotos,Hyppocrates, Strabo,Ptolomaios and others. Scythians are one of the first peoples mentioned in the texts of Ancient Greek authors. All of them, starting from Hesiodos and Eschiles,call Scythians and Sarmats "mare-milkers","koumiss-drinke­rs" , "horse-flesh eaters" and so on.

[babataher]

Üshü, Ish Scythian verb "feel cold". The word with the same meaning exists in Karachai-Balkarian and other Turk languages: Üshü.

[rizepor]

When people are neighbours, they certainly have common words. French people use the persian word "bazar" but french people are not iranian.

Read specialists and experts writing, don't try to create your own science with just words and suppositions.

[babataher]

Papai the supreme god of Scythians, whose name means "elder" in Turk languages

Api Papai's wife; means "mother" in Turk languages.

Atei Scythian king, whose name is a common Turk word meaning "father".

Eir Scythian noun "man". This word has the same meaning in Turk: "eir", "er".

Tagi Scythian word "thread"; coincides with the same Turk word.

Jün in Scythian and Turk means "wool".

[babataher]

The hoard of Scytiangold of Ziwije (also Ziwiyè) became in 1950 northern Kurdistan (Iran) near Saqqez, southeast from Hasanlu...

Scytian in Kordestan Province Iran ?

If you are surprised I can pass on to you...

[rizepor]

Thanks to follow the discussion ;

i wrote :

2nd : Scythians didn't bring civilization nowhere ; they brought influences cause they were nomadic people and warriors.

In fact, they could not even influence other cultures and civilizations cause they did not stay long in the same places.

[babataher]

You have no notion...

Scythians were from turkish origin.

Proof, the last Kurgan archeological excavations. DNA tests and other Investigations also prove that Scytians no Indo-European were. But typically Altaic have looked. Small, slit-eyed. The Scytian were buried with their most valuable.(With Horse).Scytian gold also stem from Altai.

[rizepor]

Please, type Scythian in Wiki :

"Scholars generally classify the Scythian language as a member of the Eastern Iranian languages, and the Scythians as a branch of the ancient Iranian peoples expanding into the steppe regions north of Greater Iran from around 1000 BCE"

Type Kurgan :

"Marija Gimbutas introduced her Kurgan hypothesis in 1956, combining kurgan archaeology with linguistics to locate the origins of the Proto-Indo-European (PIE) speaking peoples"

[babataher]

Your opinion is wrong again." 2000 years ago,

At that time, Turkish people were still leaving in their Altai mountains. "

The Scythians migrated from Central Asia, and become established to the north of Black Sea.

Time is 8th century BC when it happened.

what I cannot understand, however how the historians these people Indo-German can arrange. From Centrally Asia came,everywhere nomadic Kurgan culture lay a track leave...

[rizepor]

1st : when i say 2000 years old for kurdish Tanbur, it's certainly more, cause i'm a wise guy.

2nd : Scythians didn't bring civilization nowhere ; they brought influences cause they were nomadic people and warriors.

3rd : Scythians didn't even went through South Zagros mountains.

4th : Scythians were indo-european, may be the sons of Tour who was Iradj's brother.

5th : Scythian are not from turkish origin ; that is an OLD panturkist theory completely wrong (from Mirfatyh Zakiev).

[babataher]

Authentic kurdish tanbur ??????

If nobody can prove it that this instrument has given before 2000 year ago in this form. But Kopuz already...

[KockirAta]

THIS IS TURKIC INSTRUMENT! Kopuz-Baglama-Tanbur-Dombra these are TURKISH. I think this kurds had contakt with Kizilbash Turks in the time of Safevid empire. Thats why they learned this.

[rizepor]

Incredible ! I'm sorry to tell you that your level in History and Musicology is very low.

It's a fact that Tanbur (with its own form) in Kurdistan area is more than 2000 years old.

At that time, Turkish people were still leaving in their Altai mountains.

[evranvaveila]

alot better form than most guys ive seen on youtube, bariekala

[sarukhani]

Yes this is real kurdish Tanbur, and if you had any real knowledge of Tanbur, and Tanbur masters, you would know that Darvish Golnazar, Ali Akbar Moradi, and Seyed Khalil Ali Nejad, helped to create the first Tanbur ensemble in Iran, it is thanks to these Masters that Tanbur has become so universal and we can all enjoy it today.

Ya Ali

[ahlefan]

Forget Ali Moradi and other followers of Alinezhad

and let's hope we'll hear more of this kind of tanbur

[ahlefan]

This is real kurdish sacred tanbur

not highly sophisticated but authentic

[PersBear]

Bijanpour:

Ostadeh azize mah,aghahe darvishe Golnazare Azizi,changha wa esharatat dar janr ruhe ma nawachte shod jawdane!Khosh halim ma do barodar eftekhare shagerdije bosorgwari chon shomara darim.

Shahroch wa Shahruz

[jacob8078]

@PersBear

in lahse kenaram nesheste =)

tase in neweshtetuno khunde

bahman ^^

[buyukaltayli]

Tanrı Türkü Korusun

[kakayi21]

Awal Axir Dine Yar

[aars427]

Hoo Aval & Akhar Yar

[chalos2007]

The sound of Tanbour is heavenly nice

[nadarinema]

Wonderful! Davood and Zhaleh directed me here...

[keroine9]

Beautiful.

[houpou]

Darvish Golnazar,

Dam Karm, Nafas Hajh Darvesh.

Houman

[dariushaf]

mama golnazar das xosh