I was checking out your site and very very interested in buying one to test my skills LOL I used carbon fiber vinyl before on my truck and it kinda sucks so i.wanna learn how make my own real carbon fiber parts without spending $400 on a pair of side mirrors for my truck... So not saying its super easy but is it difficult???? LOL
Does the Tow Size and thickness matters for the CF? I have lots of 6k 0.17" cf cloth and Epon 828 resin, do you think it will work the same if i folow your instructions in the video?
I don't live in UK or else I would just order your stuff.
@ibanezrg2550 : I'm not sure because epoxies can be very different from eachother. All I can say is that if you've got those materials already then it can't hurt to try. Our carbon cloth is good quality fabric that wets out well but otherwise is it's normal cloth so you carbon should be fine. The epoxy resin we use has some quite special properties that many epoxies don't have so that's where your probelm (if you have one) could be.
@rnr04072 : Yes, it works in exactly the same way. In fact, the blue/black carbon fibre is an option on the product page when buying the Skinning Starter Kit.
@steveskelten : No paint can ever have the depth and detail of real carbon fibre and nor can it react to light the way that carbon fibre does. Nor can vinyl so if you want that genuine appearance you have two choices, a real carbon part (which isn't always practical) or a skin of real carbon fibre over an existing part.
Carbon fiber is cool because it is light. ADDING something that has no structural purpose on top of an existing part to make it look trick is stupid, imo.
@AZURA888 : Lacquer (clear coat) out of a spray-can is not very tough and can flake off over time. A 2K lacquer (a 2 pack with the paint and a separate hardener) is much tougher (and better) and is unlikely to fail over time so if you have spray facilities or a local sprayshot that will drop the lacquer for you then that would be the ideal option.
I'm in the middle of skinning a part now, and believe me this chap makes it look easy! But considering it's my first time, it is coming out REALLY well using this kit. Get off to their website and buy it immediately :D
@psasmh1 : Adding a layer of real carbon fibre to the outside of a part will certainly add some strength to the part. If you wanted to add more strength (as much as you want really) you could just add extra layers of carbon. This would be great if you were using this process to add a layer of carbon onto the outside of part you'd shaped yourself out of foam for example.
question; does the surface have to be smooth? for example my 99 f150 lariat has interior pieces that are textured. do i have to fill it or smooth it out before aplication?
@killertctma : It's quite difficult to do a good job of any finish other than smooth and shiny using this process. You can give the finished part a satin or matt finish but simply not polishing it up to a full gloss (mimmicking the 'dry carbon' look you see on race cars sometimes) but a textured finish is not really viable.
@killertctma : You'll still need to do all of the flatting stages to get it smooth, you just won't need to do the polishing or lacquering stages. For s satin or matt finish you can finish off with a scotch-pad.
I would like to know if an object covered with carbon fiber using this method can withstand very low/high temperatures (-30 degrees to 50), endure snow, rain, etc?
@krios50 : -30 degrees to 50 degrees should not be a problem. Much above 50 degress and you would want to use our High Temperature Skinning Kit which can take temperatures up to 200 degrees C (for engine bays, heat shields, gearbox covers etc.).
Hi, Ive got a full set of brand new black plastics for ma motocross, I want to wrap the lot in carbon fibre. How much gear do I need, and how long do you think it would take me? It seems like hard, long, patient work lol! Nice vid btw
@markyyyyyyyy321 : It certainly would be hard, long work to do a full set of M/C fairings although you could get there in the end with enough patience. M/C plastics tend to be ABS which isn't the best material to stick carbon onto (not much sticks to ABS) so if you have a new set of plastics with a nice gloss finish I think I would be tempted to take moulds off all the panels and make replacement parts instead of skin them. You might even find it quicker (although slightly more expensive).
I think your video is a really great support tool for starters like me. I have one question though. Since 3M Di-NOCs are vinyl and doesn't look anywhere like the real thing, would using epoxy resin (and doing all the sanding and polishing) result to it looking more like real carbon fiber? Clear coating just doesn't cut-it. Even 3M says so. Would love to hear from you. TIA and more power!
@tuner1gti : Yes, there is a full text guide which goes into even more detail than the video does. We're all about sharing the information though and you can download this text guide for free from our website before you even buy the kit. Just go to our site, find the kit and the instructions can be downloaded from that page.
@tuner1gti : The description is just in English although because it's a PDF you can use an online translation tool to do a rough German translation. I know this is not ideal but this is the best I can offer.
Rember, using this kind of chemicals, you need a mask with activated charcoal filters and real rubber gloves to handle this. The white Latex gloves gives no protection at all. Use blue/green Nitrile gloves.
Rember, using this kind of chemicals, you need a breather with activated charcoal filters and real rubber gloves to handle this. The white Latex gloves gives no protection at all. Use blue/green Nitrile gloves.
So, how hard is it to cover something circular but flat? Do you just make slits/cuts around the edge and overlap it around? Just asking because I am about to start a carbon fiber *project* for my car (and to learn).
@APBGrrl : Yes, I'd do just that; go over it flat and then make cuts and fold it round. From the front, you won't be able to see what's been done behind.
@kingzreptilez4life : For this 'Skinning' process you need epoxy resin that meets a few criteria. It needs to be quite thick (high viscosity) so that you can build it up, it needs amazing clarity and most importantly it needs to be free of 'amine blush' on the surface otherwise each time you let it part-cure and then add another layer it will get hazier and hazier, losing the glass-like glossy appearance. On Carbon Mods website look for 'Carbon Fibre Laminating Resin'; 500g, 1kg, 5kg available.
@kingzreptilez4life : For this 'Skinning' process you need epoxy resin that meets a few criteria. It needs to be quite thick (high viscosity) so that you can build it up, it needs amazing clarity and most importantly it needs to be free of 'amine blush' on the surface otherwise each time you let it part-cure and then add another layer it will get hazier and hazier, losing the glass-like glossy appearance. On Carbon Mods website look for 'Carbon Fibre Laminating Resin' 500g, 1kg, 5kg available.
@nismonick300zx : Yes you can but it is incredibly intricate and time consuming, also, it will innevetably put the rims well out of balance so you would need to have them all rebalanced afterwards. There's a company called Perkins Automotive who used our kit to cover a full set of rims, they looked incredible. Google Perkins Automotive and follow the link to their Facebook page - there are photos of the rims in their gallery.
Ok..... I am planning to make a road bike frame out of carbon fiber, and I am planning to use polyurethane foam, my question is, can I use epoxy instead of the black base coat that you used?
@9kevin : Yes, there's no reason why you couldn't just start laminating straight onto the outside of the foam bike frame pattern. The basecoat is special because (a) it's black and (b) it stays tacky for a long time making it perfect for the careful positioning of the carbon for a single skin. What you'll be doing it wrapping many layers of carbon around the frame making the black nature of the basecoat and the tackiness unneccessary.
thanks for your replay I was checking my inbox everyday so you finally did it. lol. This is what I am doing, I have the core already, I am planning to put a light coat of fiber glass to add some stiffness, My dilemma is that I work for a paint company that also make industrial epoxy coatings for water tanks and Disney parks. I have 50% off for every item, including epoxy coatings, but the company does not make epoxy resin, which apparently is the best glue for carbon fiber and...
@carbonmods one pint goes around $250.00 I dont want to spend that much, but since I have the discount on the COATING, I want to ask you if I can use the epoxy COATING instead of the epoxy resin and if I can, will it give me the same results? Sorry if it is too much..hehe
@9kevin : As tempting as it may seem because you get a discount on the coating resin I certainly wouldn't use this for laminating, it just won't work right at all. We sell 1kg of epoxy laminating resin designed for carbon fibre for £16 (around $24)on our Easy Composites site (search EL2 laminating resin in Google), a little money spent on the right resin will save you wasting the money you spend on the carbon fibre and glass (also, I'd skip the glass and go pure carbon/epoxy).
Thank you so much for your time, I took a look on your web site and it looks like I am going to buy the carbon fiber cloth and the epoxy as well... thank you !!!!!!!!!
@malibooroo : TT mirrors really are very domed and would be right at the limit of how far the weave could be distorted without the need for a cut-line. If you do need a cut-line I'd suggest using our ProFinish carbon (so that you can have a perfectly neat join-line) and doing it in two peices - this will reduce the amount of distortion needed considerably.
@jbn39 : Just peel the masking tape of and then sand off the whole amount of material that extends past the edge of the original part. When you're done there will be nothing to see on the inside.
Hi i've got some 200 gsm carbon fibre twill weave and I am wrapping a part that has to fit snuggly. I am going to plane the wooden object i am wrapping so I am wondering if you could tell me how much thickness this process would add? Thanks and great vid :D
@CritikylMass : Yes, you could add reinforcement to a compound bow to make it more powerful, ideally you would want to be using unidirectional carbon fibre not a biaxial woven cloth (like you see in this video) - we sell unidirectional cloth on easycomposites.co.uk - You would need to heavily 'key' the limbs with abrasive paper, wet them with epoxy, layer on the UD carbon, wetting it as you go, and then ideally you would want to squash the carbon down with something to consolodate whilst curing
@red666A : For a set of mirrors like that, you're looking at doing them over a period of 2-3 days, of which you'll spend most of your time either waiting (for the resin to cure) or sanding and polishing. There's probably 5hrs worth of sanding and polishing in a set like that.
hi i race bmx and motocross..i was wondering if i could put this on my helmet for racing and if so how long and how hard should the proces take thank you
@CHADbmx21 : We generally don't recommend applying anything to a helmet. There is the potential, no matter how unlikely, of some reaction which could weaken the helmet. Our advise is to stear clear of altering any important safety equipment.
@MrBeav62 : Of course you could, we even sell 3M Di-NOC for those who want to do that. The only dissadvantage to a decal is that it hardly looks like carbon fibre at all.
@Bonerific0 : Rear diffusers are a tricky shape, either to skin (like in this video) or to actually make. Our advice for skinning would be to use ProFinish carbon (see our website) so that you can make all of the fins and flat parts up in separate sections. This way you won't struggle with the massive weave distortion that would be neccessary to get the fibre into and out of the fins and back onto the flat sections (if possible at all). With lacquer over the top you won't see the joins.
Just be sure to try and match up the weave direction and flow it with the curves of the object. Such as a car or similar parts. The most common is a 45 degree angle facing the right axis. Driverside 7 to 2 O" clock/ Passengers side 5 to 11 O" clock. If you look at the fibre ou can see the key weave direction. In the vid the mirror was straight ish, and the sail panel was almost at 45 Degree. And don't quote me on this, you'll be casing, VIS, Seibon, Aero. ect. ect. ect. Later.
@drzflyest4 : No, the masking tape is just a temporary measure to hold the carbon in place whilst the basecoat cures. Generally, you'll have completed removed any carbon/resin from the inside/reverse of the part after you trim and finish the excess material off earlier in the process.
@liamcoleman96 : In theory yes, but in practice they're very small and fiddly. If you wanted to do it I would suggest using a special 90gsm cloth instead of the 200g we use in the kit and show in the video. A 90gsm cloth is less than half the thickness and also the pattern on it is also half the size so it looks far more in proportion on a small device like a phone. Take a look at w ww.easycomposites.co.uk for 90gsm cloth.
how would you get rid of a rough edge on carbon? ex./if i had a peice that i did a skin coat on and i couldnt cut the edges perfectly smooth could i file it? how could i get a perfect smooth edge?
@28hypnotic : Yes, you can file it. We use Perma-Grit tools (which are a range of tools with Tungsten Carbide grit on them), they do sanding blocks and files etc. The main advantage is that they don't really blunt or clog but for a cheaper alternative you can't beat a range of different grits of abrasive paper around a block. Start with coarser grits and work your way up to finer grits. By the end you can have a perfect smooth glossy adge.
@SheikaSiera : It's the Carbon Mods "Carbon Fibre Skinning Starter Kit" - look in the "Carbon Fiber Kits" section on our website and it's somewhere near the top of the list.
yea so i was going to make an ipod dock in my car, i am going to carve the shape for it out of a stiff craft foam, i was wondering if i could wrap the foam with carbon fibre in this method, because the chemicals might "eat" the foam away, it would also be a pretty small shape to wrap the fibre in
@lebrontravelled Styrofoam works fine with epoxy resin. Make the shape you want to mold taking into consideration the thickness of the carbon for exactly sizing. get the part as smooth as you can with sandpaper, then cover your styrofoam mold with clear plastics packing tape(No wrinkles in the tape!) Wet out your mold with epoxy, wait for it to tack, then cover it with the carbon and follow up with the additional coats of epoxy. When you're done, use acetone to dissolve the Styrofoam.
Im planning on using this method to wrap a sphere..I can see problems with the placing of the carbon fibre, even if I could get a sheet large enough it wouldn't wrap cleanly. Any tips?
@Croga15 : Wrapping a full sphere is never going to be easy, you'll need to get as far as you can round the shape with the first peice of carbon and then use a second peice, coming from the opposite side, to meet it; creating a seam around the middle. You'll then have to be very careful with a scalpel to make the seam neat.
@carbonmods I have changed to just using carbon fibre patterned vinyl. Should make things easier and cheaper. Its actually for making a deadmau5 head so using actually carbon fibre is pointless.
@MillieMills77 : You can clean epoxy off the brushes uses Acetone. It's not a chemical you can generally buy at a hardware store and it's not one we can ship safely but any fibreglass supplier will have it or you can buy nail cheap nail polish remover, which is basically acetone (don't get one with 'moisturisers' or other additives).
@TheTommyKay : The resin we use has gone UV inhibiters in and is a lot better than epoxies traditionally were, back in the day. That said, for total peace of mind finishing with a 1pack (2k/2 part) PU or acyllic lacquer/clearcoat will make it totally UV-proof. This is the kind of lacquer/clearcoat they use in a professional spray shop.
@summitsvift : It's the 'Carbon Fibre Skinnin Starter Kit'. We also have the special 'High Temp' version and also a 'Large' version. They're all listed in the 'Carbon Fibre Kits' category.
@Keitho958 It gives a sticky layer for the carbon to adhere to, it also masks the part colour as the carbon has tiny holes in the weave. I also use the black (gel/epoxy coat) to paint the underside of parts afterwards. Glovebox lids for instance. Been using this stuff a while and it's very good.
What is the base coat stuff actually called? Would you say it's better or easier using epoxy as opposed to polyester? Just wondering if I'm doing something wrong or using the wrong stuff, doesn't mixing in the hardener to either epoxy or polyester only give you 4 minutes to work with it before it's hard? You say in this vid that it takes about 3 hours for the base coat to go to a tack and the carbon seems to stick down really well. Any tips? Would be much appreciated, thanks :)
@Tr0nicje Can't be done mate, unless of course you put the whole thing through a biaxial braiding machine and trim of the ends, lol. That'd look awesome.
however i have a part (undertray for my motorcycle) that is more complex in geometry than this. i can see that at some point a continuous sheet of CF will crease and overlap. I mimicked the process with a silk sheet and my suspiscions are confirmed.
what is the best way around this?? (apart from making a mould of the part)
These guys have great products! I started witht their skinning kit and now I just buy the resin and carbon fiber. Their colored carbon fiber looks amazing, love the red on black weave! And I live in the US and I get all my stuff in about a week and a half. Thats pretty good considering their in the UK. Next I'm going to order the molding kit. Great job guys keep up the good work!
i am at the point where i have layed the cf down, and put the first coat of epoxy hardener. i left it over night and realized that along the edges, there were bubbles, (or not enough resin to hold it down to the plastic) is there anyways to reheat and make it soft again?
Is it possible to skin my side skirts? Does it last long? How much is 2000cm x 20cm? Do you ship to Finland? email me to get a picture of my cars sideskirts!
whats the point of this... i mean you can use di-noc 3m adhesives which are a LOT cheaper and looks just like it. Plus it is more easy to apply - no need to wait hours or days to dry... just stick it on and there ya go
@sUpErHeRo15xx : DI-NOC is all well and good and has a nice diagonal pattern like 2/2 twill (we even sell it) but let's be serious, it doesn't look much like real carbon fibre. Some people (like you) are fine with this and all power to you. Other people know what carbon fibre looks like and want the look of the real carbon on their car. They have the time, skill and desire to get the genuine carbon fibre look and so this kit is for them.
@theredejvtec i do agree with you but this process last's a whole lot longer than the 3m product, it last's like 3-4 yrs if used outdoors and like 12 yrs indoors just depends where your using it and yes your right it is a whole lot less messier.
@theredejvtec : Pop round to Carbon Mods. We have a bonnet skinned this way and one skinned in 3M DI-NOC. If you can't tell the difference then you're not know who this is aimed at ;-)
@theredejvtec Bro, that 3M is for ricers. Wrapping is an excellent way to get an original look for parts. Maybe a little more expensive, but looks hella better!
No wonder premade carbon fibre is do expensive!!!
TheRguru1 1 day ago
My right ear feels lonely :(
mtothem1337 1 week ago 2
ditch the gay fucking music
donadthegonad 2 weeks ago
Awesome video. Thanks for taking the time!
RevDynamics 2 weeks ago
Awesome job, Thank you!
HYBRIDLVR 2 weeks ago
VERY NICE JOB DUDE !
XGangsta95 2 weeks ago
whats the difference in laminating and skinning?
bloodieduckies 2 weeks ago
I was checking out your site and very very interested in buying one to test my skills LOL I used carbon fiber vinyl before on my truck and it kinda sucks so i.wanna learn how make my own real carbon fiber parts without spending $400 on a pair of side mirrors for my truck... So not saying its super easy but is it difficult???? LOL
oldhpirs4 2 weeks ago
Would this be possible to do on a helmet?
Just wondering because
1) helmet there's no were to rap the carbon...
2)if the chemicals you are using will compromise the helmet.
3) will you be able to use spray paint on the material before putting the clear coat on
KartingApexKing 3 weeks ago
If I were to order your wrapping kit do you ship to the US?
SoBrocheMaisNadda 3 weeks ago
could i do this on a longboard?
aguyusaw 3 weeks ago
Does the Tow Size and thickness matters for the CF? I have lots of 6k 0.17" cf cloth and Epon 828 resin, do you think it will work the same if i folow your instructions in the video?
I don't live in UK or else I would just order your stuff.
ibanezrg2550 1 month ago
@ibanezrg2550 : I'm not sure because epoxies can be very different from eachother. All I can say is that if you've got those materials already then it can't hurt to try. Our carbon cloth is good quality fabric that wets out well but otherwise is it's normal cloth so you carbon should be fine. The epoxy resin we use has some quite special properties that many epoxies don't have so that's where your probelm (if you have one) could be.
carbonmods 1 month ago
so is the blue kevlar carbon just like the carbon fiber cause i wanted to get the kit with the blue and just would like to know thanks
rnr04072 1 month ago
@rnr04072 : Yes, it works in exactly the same way. In fact, the blue/black carbon fibre is an option on the product page when buying the Skinning Starter Kit.
carbonmods 1 month ago
@steveskelten : No paint can ever have the depth and detail of real carbon fibre and nor can it react to light the way that carbon fibre does. Nor can vinyl so if you want that genuine appearance you have two choices, a real carbon part (which isn't always practical) or a skin of real carbon fibre over an existing part.
carbonmods 1 month ago
Carbon fiber is cool because it is light. ADDING something that has no structural purpose on top of an existing part to make it look trick is stupid, imo.
yammieR12003 1 month ago in playlist Carbon Fiber 2
Doing this on my nerf gun :)
alfyan99 1 month ago
is better polish than laca, it fall down with time.
AZURA888 1 month ago
@AZURA888 : Lacquer (clear coat) out of a spray-can is not very tough and can flake off over time. A 2K lacquer (a 2 pack with the paint and a separate hardener) is much tougher (and better) and is unlikely to fail over time so if you have spray facilities or a local sprayshot that will drop the lacquer for you then that would be the ideal option.
carbonmods 1 month ago
I'm in the middle of skinning a part now, and believe me this chap makes it look easy! But considering it's my first time, it is coming out REALLY well using this kit. Get off to their website and buy it immediately :D
leeadler83 1 month ago
WOW THATS AWESOME
lote1234567891011 1 month ago
Is this just for looks or does it add reinforcement also?
psasmh1 2 months ago
@psasmh1 : Adding a layer of real carbon fibre to the outside of a part will certainly add some strength to the part. If you wanted to add more strength (as much as you want really) you could just add extra layers of carbon. This would be great if you were using this process to add a layer of carbon onto the outside of part you'd shaped yourself out of foam for example.
carbonmods 1 month ago
question; does the surface have to be smooth? for example my 99 f150 lariat has interior pieces that are textured. do i have to fill it or smooth it out before aplication?
killertctma 2 months ago
@killertctma : It's quite difficult to do a good job of any finish other than smooth and shiny using this process. You can give the finished part a satin or matt finish but simply not polishing it up to a full gloss (mimmicking the 'dry carbon' look you see on race cars sometimes) but a textured finish is not really viable.
carbonmods 2 months ago
@carbonmods right i dont want textured . i want smooth. so do i have to smooth down the part before aplication or will it smoth itself out.
killertctma 2 months ago
@killertctma : You'll still need to do all of the flatting stages to get it smooth, you just won't need to do the polishing or lacquering stages. For s satin or matt finish you can finish off with a scotch-pad.
carbonmods 2 months ago
audio mixing FAIL
nice video though
Phan77om 3 months ago
I would like to know if an object covered with carbon fiber using this method can withstand very low/high temperatures (-30 degrees to 50), endure snow, rain, etc?
krios50 3 months ago
@krios50 : -30 degrees to 50 degrees should not be a problem. Much above 50 degress and you would want to use our High Temperature Skinning Kit which can take temperatures up to 200 degrees C (for engine bays, heat shields, gearbox covers etc.).
carbonmods 2 months ago
Hi, Ive got a full set of brand new black plastics for ma motocross, I want to wrap the lot in carbon fibre. How much gear do I need, and how long do you think it would take me? It seems like hard, long, patient work lol! Nice vid btw
markyyyyyyyy321 3 months ago
@markyyyyyyyy321 : It certainly would be hard, long work to do a full set of M/C fairings although you could get there in the end with enough patience. M/C plastics tend to be ABS which isn't the best material to stick carbon onto (not much sticks to ABS) so if you have a new set of plastics with a nice gloss finish I think I would be tempted to take moulds off all the panels and make replacement parts instead of skin them. You might even find it quicker (although slightly more expensive).
carbonmods 2 months ago
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I think your video is a really great support tool for starters like me. I have one question though. Since 3M Di-NOCs are vinyl and doesn't look anywhere like the real thing, would using epoxy resin (and doing all the sanding and polishing) result to it looking more like real carbon fiber? Clear coating just doesn't cut-it. Even 3M says so. Would love to hear from you. TIA and more power!
ryd1977 3 months ago
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ryd1977 3 months ago
if i buy this set, is there also a description in this set?
tuner1gti 3 months ago
@tuner1gti : Yes, there is a full text guide which goes into even more detail than the video does. We're all about sharing the information though and you can download this text guide for free from our website before you even buy the kit. Just go to our site, find the kit and the instructions can be downloaded from that page.
carbonmods 2 months ago
@carbonmods
is this description in english or in german too ??
tuner1gti 2 months ago
@tuner1gti : The description is just in English although because it's a PDF you can use an online translation tool to do a rough German translation. I know this is not ideal but this is the best I can offer.
carbonmods 2 months ago
fantastic easy to follow tutorial, thanks very much. I'll be buying this kit.. the results were superb.
321Trooper 3 months ago
not really into carbon fiber but that was actually neat-o for the process
TazyTT22 3 months ago
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Rember, using this kind of chemicals, you need a mask with activated charcoal filters and real rubber gloves to handle this. The white Latex gloves gives no protection at all. Use blue/green Nitrile gloves.
zaprodk 3 months ago
Rember, using this kind of chemicals, you need a breather with activated charcoal filters and real rubber gloves to handle this. The white Latex gloves gives no protection at all. Use blue/green Nitrile gloves.
zaprodk 3 months ago
way too much work but holy shit does it look worth it...
bboy1605 4 months ago
why is carbon fiber still so rediculously pricy? as useful as it is they need to be producing this stuff like it was paper
MichaelCox 4 months ago
So, how hard is it to cover something circular but flat? Do you just make slits/cuts around the edge and overlap it around? Just asking because I am about to start a carbon fiber *project* for my car (and to learn).
APBGrrl 4 months ago
@APBGrrl : Yes, I'd do just that; go over it flat and then make cuts and fold it round. From the front, you won't be able to see what's been done behind.
carbonmods 2 months ago
@carbonmods i was wondering, if i could use the same thing for making an Iphone 4 cover.
TheStealther 4 months ago
Hi mate,
is it possible with your kit to CF skin the alloy wheels?
thanks
darkodacha 4 months ago
@carbonmods can you buy the resin in larger jugs? If so were and is there a certain type that I am supposed to get?
kingzreptilez4life 4 months ago
@kingzreptilez4life : For this 'Skinning' process you need epoxy resin that meets a few criteria. It needs to be quite thick (high viscosity) so that you can build it up, it needs amazing clarity and most importantly it needs to be free of 'amine blush' on the surface otherwise each time you let it part-cure and then add another layer it will get hazier and hazier, losing the glass-like glossy appearance. On Carbon Mods website look for 'Carbon Fibre Laminating Resin'; 500g, 1kg, 5kg available.
carbonmods 4 months ago
@kingzreptilez4life : For this 'Skinning' process you need epoxy resin that meets a few criteria. It needs to be quite thick (high viscosity) so that you can build it up, it needs amazing clarity and most importantly it needs to be free of 'amine blush' on the surface otherwise each time you let it part-cure and then add another layer it will get hazier and hazier, losing the glass-like glossy appearance. On Carbon Mods website look for 'Carbon Fibre Laminating Resin' 500g, 1kg, 5kg available.
carbonmods 4 months ago
Could u do that to stock rims for a car??
nismonick300zx 4 months ago
@nismonick300zx : Yes you can but it is incredibly intricate and time consuming, also, it will innevetably put the rims well out of balance so you would need to have them all rebalanced afterwards. There's a company called Perkins Automotive who used our kit to cover a full set of rims, they looked incredible. Google Perkins Automotive and follow the link to their Facebook page - there are photos of the rims in their gallery.
carbonmods 4 months ago
sorry polystyrene foam
9kevin 4 months ago
Ok..... I am planning to make a road bike frame out of carbon fiber, and I am planning to use polyurethane foam, my question is, can I use epoxy instead of the black base coat that you used?
9kevin 4 months ago
@9kevin : Yes, there's no reason why you couldn't just start laminating straight onto the outside of the foam bike frame pattern. The basecoat is special because (a) it's black and (b) it stays tacky for a long time making it perfect for the careful positioning of the carbon for a single skin. What you'll be doing it wrapping many layers of carbon around the frame making the black nature of the basecoat and the tackiness unneccessary.
carbonmods 4 months ago
@carbonmods
thanks for your replay I was checking my inbox everyday so you finally did it. lol. This is what I am doing, I have the core already, I am planning to put a light coat of fiber glass to add some stiffness, My dilemma is that I work for a paint company that also make industrial epoxy coatings for water tanks and Disney parks. I have 50% off for every item, including epoxy coatings, but the company does not make epoxy resin, which apparently is the best glue for carbon fiber and...
9kevin 4 months ago
@carbonmods one pint goes around $250.00 I dont want to spend that much, but since I have the discount on the COATING, I want to ask you if I can use the epoxy COATING instead of the epoxy resin and if I can, will it give me the same results? Sorry if it is too much..hehe
9kevin 4 months ago
@9kevin : As tempting as it may seem because you get a discount on the coating resin I certainly wouldn't use this for laminating, it just won't work right at all. We sell 1kg of epoxy laminating resin designed for carbon fibre for £16 (around $24)on our Easy Composites site (search EL2 laminating resin in Google), a little money spent on the right resin will save you wasting the money you spend on the carbon fibre and glass (also, I'd skip the glass and go pure carbon/epoxy).
carbonmods 4 months ago
Thank you so much for your time, I took a look on your web site and it looks like I am going to buy the carbon fiber cloth and the epoxy as well... thank you !!!!!!!!!
9kevin 4 months ago
how well does this work on really curved surfaces? I'm thinking of wrapping the mirrors on my audi TT, but am worried thy're a little too domed?
malibooroo 4 months ago
@malibooroo : TT mirrors really are very domed and would be right at the limit of how far the weave could be distorted without the need for a cut-line. If you do need a cut-line I'd suggest using our ProFinish carbon (so that you can have a perfectly neat join-line) and doing it in two peices - this will reduce the amount of distortion needed considerably.
carbonmods 4 months ago
Hey how much thickness would the carbon fiber layer add to the object after the whole process?
Thanks!
ManuelDr 4 months ago
@ManuelDr roughly 0.2mm
MrLegend139 4 months ago
@MrLegend139 Radical.
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Imeristrading 5 months ago
what did you do about the bottom where you taped it down?
jbn39 5 months ago
@jbn39 : Just peel the masking tape of and then sand off the whole amount of material that extends past the edge of the original part. When you're done there will be nothing to see on the inside.
carbonmods 4 months ago
ну и отстой!
YmaxaMinsk 5 months ago
@carbonmods okay thanks you :)
CHADbmx21 5 months ago
Hi i've got some 200 gsm carbon fibre twill weave and I am wrapping a part that has to fit snuggly. I am going to plane the wooden object i am wrapping so I am wondering if you could tell me how much thickness this process would add? Thanks and great vid :D
maxie12345678910 5 months ago
Excellent Video- Thank you for posting this video up. Fantastic work as well :-)
mindthoughts1974 5 months ago
i have a compound bow. i want to apply it to the limbs. whaddyareckon?
CritikylMass 5 months ago
@CritikylMass : Yes, you could add reinforcement to a compound bow to make it more powerful, ideally you would want to be using unidirectional carbon fibre not a biaxial woven cloth (like you see in this video) - we sell unidirectional cloth on easycomposites.co.uk - You would need to heavily 'key' the limbs with abrasive paper, wet them with epoxy, layer on the UD carbon, wetting it as you go, and then ideally you would want to squash the carbon down with something to consolodate whilst curing
carbonmods 5 months ago
looks so legit
GangsterDawg101 5 months ago
Look very good. How long does it take to do all that?
red666A 5 months ago
@red666A : For a set of mirrors like that, you're looking at doing them over a period of 2-3 days, of which you'll spend most of your time either waiting (for the resin to cure) or sanding and polishing. There's probably 5hrs worth of sanding and polishing in a set like that.
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trevellss 5 months ago in playlist carbon
hi i race bmx and motocross..i was wondering if i could put this on my helmet for racing and if so how long and how hard should the proces take thank you
CHADbmx21 5 months ago
@CHADbmx21 : We generally don't recommend applying anything to a helmet. There is the potential, no matter how unlikely, of some reaction which could weaken the helmet. Our advise is to stear clear of altering any important safety equipment.
carbonmods 5 months ago
or just use a decal
MrBeav62 5 months ago
@MrBeav62 : Of course you could, we even sell 3M Di-NOC for those who want to do that. The only dissadvantage to a decal is that it hardly looks like carbon fibre at all.
carbonmods 5 months ago
what should i buy if i want to cover a car rear diffuser with sharp angles(fins) in carbon fibre ?
Bonerific0 6 months ago
@Bonerific0 : Rear diffusers are a tricky shape, either to skin (like in this video) or to actually make. Our advice for skinning would be to use ProFinish carbon (see our website) so that you can make all of the fins and flat parts up in separate sections. This way you won't struggle with the massive weave distortion that would be neccessary to get the fibre into and out of the fins and back onto the flat sections (if possible at all). With lacquer over the top you won't see the joins.
carbonmods 6 months ago
Just be sure to try and match up the weave direction and flow it with the curves of the object. Such as a car or similar parts. The most common is a 45 degree angle facing the right axis. Driverside 7 to 2 O" clock/ Passengers side 5 to 11 O" clock. If you look at the fibre ou can see the key weave direction. In the vid the mirror was straight ish, and the sail panel was almost at 45 Degree. And don't quote me on this, you'll be casing, VIS, Seibon, Aero. ect. ect. ect. Later.
ShinigamiRota 6 months ago
curious, when all dried should the masking tape be left on?
drzflyest4 6 months ago
@drzflyest4 : No, the masking tape is just a temporary measure to hold the carbon in place whilst the basecoat cures. Generally, you'll have completed removed any carbon/resin from the inside/reverse of the part after you trim and finish the excess material off earlier in the process.
carbonmods 6 months ago
At first I was thinking it will be an awful result but in fact that's great job !
skyhacker6 6 months ago
I bought your kit but I am running out of polishing compound. What can I purchase in the US that would be similar? Thanks for the help.
joebarchuck 6 months ago
@joebarchuck : Faracla Profile, Mirka T10 and Mirka C20 are all very good on composites.
carbonmods 6 months ago
i would like to know if i would be able to do this on a mobile phone cover
liamcoleman96 6 months ago
@liamcoleman96 : In theory yes, but in practice they're very small and fiddly. If you wanted to do it I would suggest using a special 90gsm cloth instead of the 200g we use in the kit and show in the video. A 90gsm cloth is less than half the thickness and also the pattern on it is also half the size so it looks far more in proportion on a small device like a phone. Take a look at w ww.easycomposites.co.uk for 90gsm cloth.
carbonmods 6 months ago
how would you get rid of a rough edge on carbon? ex./if i had a peice that i did a skin coat on and i couldnt cut the edges perfectly smooth could i file it? how could i get a perfect smooth edge?
28hypnotic 6 months ago
@28hypnotic : Yes, you can file it. We use Perma-Grit tools (which are a range of tools with Tungsten Carbide grit on them), they do sanding blocks and files etc. The main advantage is that they don't really blunt or clog but for a cheaper alternative you can't beat a range of different grits of abrasive paper around a block. Start with coarser grits and work your way up to finer grits. By the end you can have a perfect smooth glossy adge.
carbonmods 6 months ago
What kit exactly is used in the video?
Cheers
SheikaSiera 6 months ago
@SheikaSiera : It's the Carbon Mods "Carbon Fibre Skinning Starter Kit" - look in the "Carbon Fiber Kits" section on our website and it's somewhere near the top of the list.
carbonmods 6 months ago
OMG I'm the 686,666th person to watch this video!
MountainRook 6 months ago
Nice. Been thinking of covering the GRP bonnet I've got for my track car but don't like the vinyl wrapped ones I've seen so far
BazWaz1975 6 months ago
yea so i was going to make an ipod dock in my car, i am going to carve the shape for it out of a stiff craft foam, i was wondering if i could wrap the foam with carbon fibre in this method, because the chemicals might "eat" the foam away, it would also be a pretty small shape to wrap the fibre in
lebrontravelled 7 months ago
@lebrontravelled Styrofoam works fine with epoxy resin. Make the shape you want to mold taking into consideration the thickness of the carbon for exactly sizing. get the part as smooth as you can with sandpaper, then cover your styrofoam mold with clear plastics packing tape(No wrinkles in the tape!) Wet out your mold with epoxy, wait for it to tack, then cover it with the carbon and follow up with the additional coats of epoxy. When you're done, use acetone to dissolve the Styrofoam.
wideawake123 7 months ago
I'll do this with my new computer!
vv41zx 7 months ago
lol ass carbon fiber
Mastermind843 7 months ago
Im planning on using this method to wrap a sphere..I can see problems with the placing of the carbon fibre, even if I could get a sheet large enough it wouldn't wrap cleanly. Any tips?
Croga15 7 months ago
@Croga15 : Wrapping a full sphere is never going to be easy, you'll need to get as far as you can round the shape with the first peice of carbon and then use a second peice, coming from the opposite side, to meet it; creating a seam around the middle. You'll then have to be very careful with a scalpel to make the seam neat.
carbonmods 6 months ago
@carbonmods I have changed to just using carbon fibre patterned vinyl. Should make things easier and cheaper. Its actually for making a deadmau5 head so using actually carbon fibre is pointless.
Croga15 6 months ago
what do u get for covering it in carbon fiber?
Idle566 7 months ago
do you change brush every time or is there a way to clean the brush so its not hard?
MillieMills77 8 months ago
@MillieMills77 : You can clean epoxy off the brushes uses Acetone. It's not a chemical you can generally buy at a hardware store and it's not one we can ship safely but any fibreglass supplier will have it or you can buy nail cheap nail polish remover, which is basically acetone (don't get one with 'moisturisers' or other additives).
carbonmods 6 months ago
is it UV tolerant or does it get yellow-ish after some exposure to the sun?
TheTommyKay 8 months ago
@TheTommyKay : The resin we use has gone UV inhibiters in and is a lot better than epoxies traditionally were, back in the day. That said, for total peace of mind finishing with a 1pack (2k/2 part) PU or acyllic lacquer/clearcoat will make it totally UV-proof. This is the kind of lacquer/clearcoat they use in a professional spray shop.
carbonmods 6 months ago
could i use multiple layers of carbon fiber for more strength?
JWOLFyep 8 months ago
@JWOLFyep : Yes, definately. If you're 'skinning' the part to actually add strangth to it then the more layers you add the stronger it will be.
carbonmods 6 months ago
that is cool , which kit is it on your website ? I cannot find it
summitsvift 8 months ago
@summitsvift : It's the 'Carbon Fibre Skinnin Starter Kit'. We also have the special 'High Temp' version and also a 'Large' version. They're all listed in the 'Carbon Fibre Kits' category.
carbonmods 6 months ago
THAT'S LOOOOOONG!!!
LeDrIsKilLz 8 months ago
would you recommend this method or the vinyl method?
crazyhinduguy 8 months ago in playlist car
I just want you to know that the background music reminds me of bad porn music from the 80's! Cheers!
doriftosil13 8 months ago
Hi, can I glue 2 cured carbon fiber objects together by epoxy?
nickyeahyeah 8 months ago
What is the base layer resin called?
farfegnewgen 8 months ago
Hello. can someone tell me what kind of carbon this is? is it 3K or 5.7K what kind?
sevastopol1 9 months ago
buy the cheapest mercurials and wrap carbon under the shoe -> superfly!
theLiveOnee 9 months ago
what is the name of the base layer and clear layer opoxies, i bough carbonfiber but dont have the mixtures to lay it.
SoulEating87 9 months ago
hey man, i've bought some carbon fiber but i dont have any of the composites to actually wrap it. what are the names of the composites that you used
SoulEating87 9 months ago
what is the black pigment used in the process, is it really necessary
Keitho958 9 months ago
@Keitho958 It gives a sticky layer for the carbon to adhere to, it also masks the part colour as the carbon has tiny holes in the weave. I also use the black (gel/epoxy coat) to paint the underside of parts afterwards. Glovebox lids for instance. Been using this stuff a while and it's very good.
nightSpiritUK 8 months ago
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is it possible to aply this method to the interior when the plastic part is more rubbery then the plastic on outside parts like the side mirrors.
poopabjorn 9 months ago
i love how all the comments are aimed at me. i guess i got on some peoples nerves.
im just throwing out 3m for others as an alternative solution. each there own.
keep it jdm with REAL carbon fiber yo! lmao
theredejvtec 9 months ago
Sick! I wanted to replace a sidepanel on my car do with carbon fiber and thought I was gonna need to pay a lot to have it done at a shop.
ciolfi0118 9 months ago
Is that the Version for 46£ or 90£ or 112£ or 190£???
tuner1gti 9 months ago
Is the kit EPO foam safe?
ap0lmc 9 months ago
noticed the buffing looked beter than the laquer...
cojennn 10 months ago
Do you guys ship these kits to america? I really want to get some of this.. Thanks
PhuckThatShit 10 months ago
About how much thickness does this add to a part?
EyeFlyHP 10 months ago
totally thought that said pants. I was sitting there waiting like "When's he gonna put them on the pants!?"
KUROGUY 10 months ago
What is the base coat stuff actually called? Would you say it's better or easier using epoxy as opposed to polyester? Just wondering if I'm doing something wrong or using the wrong stuff, doesn't mixing in the hardener to either epoxy or polyester only give you 4 minutes to work with it before it's hard? You say in this vid that it takes about 3 hours for the base coat to go to a tack and the carbon seems to stick down really well. Any tips? Would be much appreciated, thanks :)
xankite1 10 months ago
Which of the twill fabric and what is the ounce of the fabric that you use to wrap your parts with? Sample: 2 x 2 twill 5oz.
razuuk004 11 months ago
in the video if you look below carbonmods and to the left, it says "ass"
lol
neonbluen851 11 months ago
This is perfect for the Lamborghini kitcars.
vfIskullangel 11 months ago
How do you skin an oval tube ?, without having a big seam ...
thanks ;)
Tr0nicje 11 months ago
@Tr0nicje Can't be done mate, unless of course you put the whole thing through a biaxial braiding machine and trim of the ends, lol. That'd look awesome.
xankite1 10 months ago
I plan on covering my gas tank on my cbr 929rr, anything I should know before doing this and do you guys ship to the U.S.
onelegorg 11 months ago
do you guys have a kit to do an entire subwoober encloser or does it have to be metal this goes on or will it work on wood?
rebel119wrestler 11 months ago
Carbon skillz! If it doesn't move-cover it in carbon.
onlywhenpissed 11 months ago
Is ıt me or "ass carbon fiber componets" writed on thw wall!!
atakan196 11 months ago
Wich Carbon Fibre Cloth is it????
Twill oder Plain Weave?
Augenbrauenkiller 11 months ago
is the carbon fiber fabric from BGF?
cambo1291 11 months ago
this stuff looks` every bit the real mc coy- can you say the same for the 3M shit?
6488ott 11 months ago
ok this i need to do,
however i have a part (undertray for my motorcycle) that is more complex in geometry than this. i can see that at some point a continuous sheet of CF will crease and overlap. I mimicked the process with a silk sheet and my suspiscions are confirmed.
what is the best way around this?? (apart from making a mould of the part)
epob9471 11 months ago
These guys have great products! I started witht their skinning kit and now I just buy the resin and carbon fiber. Their colored carbon fiber looks amazing, love the red on black weave! And I live in the US and I get all my stuff in about a week and a half. Thats pretty good considering their in the UK. Next I'm going to order the molding kit. Great job guys keep up the good work!
TheNismo221 11 months ago
di noc sucks, its poor mans carbon
MrSatchafunkilus 1 year ago
Just ordered this kit, cant fucking wait to have a bash
samdub 1 year ago
thank you very helpful video.
but who would go through all this?
when u could have done this within one hour with 3m sticker.
xhavit20 1 year ago
any one knows how much does that kit coast?
key2010 1 year ago
@key2010 £46.92 which is $72.67. But you get everything you need. Its a great kit!
TheNismo221 11 months ago
Effin awesome
Charger5001968 1 year ago
i want to carbon fiber my trunk but im afraid it wont work or look like this lol
ramzmr5 1 year ago
ugly work
spyke68 1 year ago
** not bubbles in the hardener, bubbles as in between the object and the carbon fiber
MethodsCrew 1 year ago
i am at the point where i have layed the cf down, and put the first coat of epoxy hardener. i left it over night and realized that along the edges, there were bubbles, (or not enough resin to hold it down to the plastic) is there anyways to reheat and make it soft again?
MethodsCrew 1 year ago
What a waste of carbon fiber.
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Is it possible to skin my side skirts? Does it last long? How much is 2000cm x 20cm? Do you ship to Finland?
MrToffo92 1 year ago
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Is it possible to skin my side skirts? Does it last long? How much is 2000cm x 20cm? Do you ship to Finland? email me to get a picture of my cars sideskirts!
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MrToffo92 1 year ago
I want carbon fibre coated underpants! :-p
jublywubly 1 year ago
Just buy the full carbon fiber. Jesus it's juss a fake.
EndofDays213 1 year ago
whats the point of this... i mean you can use di-noc 3m adhesives which are a LOT cheaper and looks just like it. Plus it is more easy to apply - no need to wait hours or days to dry... just stick it on and there ya go
sUpErHeRo15xx 1 year ago
@sUpErHeRo15xx : DI-NOC is all well and good and has a nice diagonal pattern like 2/2 twill (we even sell it) but let's be serious, it doesn't look much like real carbon fibre. Some people (like you) are fine with this and all power to you. Other people know what carbon fibre looks like and want the look of the real carbon on their car. They have the time, skill and desire to get the genuine carbon fibre look and so this kit is for them.
carbonmods 1 year ago
hi,i thought glue on fibre sheet is enough to hold it
wowerman 1 year ago
will this work for a tercel?
valdezmiguel2 1 year ago
why not use vinyl wrap?
itfben 1 year ago
this is old technology...
everyone uses 3m di noc now! easy and cheap. less mess and looks just as cool.
theredejvtec 1 year ago
@theredejvtec i do agree with you but this process last's a whole lot longer than the 3m product, it last's like 3-4 yrs if used outdoors and like 12 yrs indoors just depends where your using it and yes your right it is a whole lot less messier.
eclipse93gst 1 year ago
@theredejvtec : Pop round to Carbon Mods. We have a bonnet skinned this way and one skinned in 3M DI-NOC. If you can't tell the difference then you're not know who this is aimed at ;-)
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fuck 3m di noc!
i have done my interieur with 3m! but it looks cheap!its easy to work but not the same!
now i am redoing it with real xcarbon fibre and it looks much more quality and better than the 3m!
dNam1C 1 year ago
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that is dumb carbon.......its for people not have money but want the style :)
budaknakaltv 1 year ago
@theredejvtec Bro, that 3M is for ricers. Wrapping is an excellent way to get an original look for parts. Maybe a little more expensive, but looks hella better!
BakermanINC 1 year ago 8
@BakermanINC wrapping is for ricers too :D
hardnor 7 months ago