@FreddyClapton You do know what the Sicherheitsdienst was dont you? yeah the SD were not a combat einheit, they also were not directly attached to the Waffen SS, they were raised along side the Gestapo or Geheime Staatspolizei, The SS-VT/TV and Waffen SS were Combat units, and they were not in NordAfrika. Now in this little fail of a doc, they show Waffen SS members in NA. that is a fail.
Them Yanks relly got their arses kicked at Kasserine Pass, it's lucky for them they had the Brits there to save the day. Now they try and pretend they won the war all by themselves, bless em lol
@KevinJKtheman Yeah, sort of reenactment of you Brits gettng chased out of Europe via Dunkirk. Though we didn't have boats to save our asses. And I find it hilarious that you make an accusation when you Brits try to marginalize ANYTHING the US did in WW2.
@Clonetrooper1139 "you Brits try to marginalize ANYTHING the US did in WW2"
Well thats rich coming from a yank. its usually you guys that try to marginalise ANYTHING the Brits, and the other Allied forces did. We fully acept that the US did a lot toward winning the war. But so did ALL the Allied forces,
@KevinJKtheman "That's rich coming from a Yank." Isn't it though? HA! You Limeys are great. Yes EVERYONE who contributed to that war won it. I agree. So since countrymen from our homelands and others bled in that conflict, let's stop the childish bickering, shall we?
@Clonetrooper1139 What? The BEF did not get pushed out of mainland Europe till 1941. And Dunkirk was a great escape, The BEF was outnumbered and could do nothing 2 stop the Axis Blitzreig. Remember the British had an Empire & 1/4 of the World protect. We got our ass kicked in Europe outnumbered 1940-41 BUT we kicked the Axis ass in Africa & Mid-East also saving our Mother-Country from possible invasion, and with Uncle Stalin, Hitler & Axis Europe was defeated.
@lobster9207 They didn't surrender. They were ordered to lay down their arms. That may seem like splitting hairs, but it's not the same thing, due to the options that follow. Rejoining the allies is not the same outcome as sitting in a concentration camp.
@lobster9207 well if you would look at the french military history they have one of most victorious lists.
so really its stupid to believe all the french do is surrender. cause of every country i can make a simular remark. well except maybe great dukedom luxembourg or vaticancity
i don't know why they always shows tunisia as a rocky desert even in documentaries, cuz only the south of the country is a desert, in the rest of the country you won't be able to recognize if you are in italy or north africa, also not all the big battles were fought in desert.
@Sveles25 Monty was greatest leader the Allies had, It was Monty who humiliated Rommel and defeated Rommel at Alam Halfa,El Aameins the greatest and most vital battles of Africa, Rommel ran away from Monty and betrayed Hitler and left his men to surrender and go into mutiny. It was Monty who lead the D-Day invasion, Operation overlord and saved W.Europe from the spread of Communism. Monty was superior to Patton, Anybody could have done what Patton did, Arrive late when the enemy is weak!
@martynrobin121 My friend Patton took the majority of Sicily while Monty was sipping tea while driving up the west coast. Yeah Patton was out of his mind, but damn it he got the job done. And let's not forget Market Garden. Monty's plan and it failed.
"I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed."
@southparkfan2717 Monty was Pattons superior, And Patton didnt take the majority of Sicily, Monty was to his right every-step of the way. It was Monty who defeat Rommel and won N.Africa, It was Monty who lead the D-Day landing Operation Overlord and deefated Rommel again! And lets not forget that Operation Market-Garden had been a success the Allies would have took Berlin first and saved more of Europe from Communism. Patton was just a tank commander, Monty was the leader!!!
@martynrobin121 Who did the German's fear more? Patton. Who finally broke the Allies out of the hedge rows of Normandy? Patton. Who was on the doorstep of Germany and would have advanced in had the supplies not gone to Montgomery? Patton.
@southparkfan2717 It was Monty who defeated Rommel,And won the war in N.Africa. Also it was Monty who lead the Allies in D-Day invasion, The most vital battle of Normandy was Caen, Whitch was taken by Monty Army, As Rommel said "Whoever controls Caen controls Normandy". It was Monty who was the leader of the Allied ground Forces, Patton was just a tank commander, Monty was his superior. Monty would have taken Berlin and saved more of Europe from Communism if Market Garden had worked!
@southparkfan2717 ......Haha... Patton didn't even fight in the hedge row country (bocage) and the breakout (Operation Cobra) happened before the 3rd Army was even activated. It was VII and VIII Corps' who achieved the breakout in conjunction with the British/Canadian breakout around Caen (Operation Bluecoat). Patton's "end run" across France was south of where the real fighting was. Instead of buying into the Patton myth try studying some real history.
@Clonetrooper1139 So i take it you blame Monty for the failure of Market-Garden? How the hell was Monty 2 know there would be SS & Panzer Divisions in the right place at the right time?
@martynrobin121 How was he supposed to know? Um. . .The Dutch resistance sent intelligence reports. He dismissed the tanks. Bu then ultimately i lay the blame the debacle on Eisenhower. He greenlighted the project. My salute to your country's airborne troops who held out as long as they could.
@Clonetrooper1139 You cant just blame 1 man for the Operation, Remember the British Armour had many problems, The People of Belgium were having Victory parades and it was hard to even advance. Also they had 2 deal with Axis units left behind,etc. The Operation went slow due to many reasons, Monty info said they were concript troops, However they were elite SS and Panzer divisions on rest from the Eastern Front. Churchill wanted the war over 1944, Monty had to take the gamble that cost him alot.
@martynrobin121 The point is Martyn that you got the "facts" wrong again !! General Horrocks' XXX Corps (the "British armour") was advancing through HOLLAND not, as you said, Belgium: jeez :-O
@Clonetrooper1139 Martyn wants us to believe in British ingenuity, fighting spirit, etc, and US involvement as just dead weight. The fact is 1st ALLIED Airbourne Army deployed 1 Polish brigade 2 US divisions and only 1 British division in operation 'Market'. US officers were skeptical of Montgomery's flawed plan, which he refused to change, and the all British XXX Corps 'Garden' operation depended on just one road both for advance + supply, and required all bridges to be taken
@elrjames777 And your the idiot who seems to think Market-Garden was British failure. However the Operation was an Allied failure, Just research. The Yanks & Brits took a massive gamble to win the war and stop communism. At least the British wanted to advance and take Berlin by 1944, and save more of Europe from Communism(Unlike that coward Eisnhower) The US involvement was mostly trade & later loans, They were the bankers.
@martynrobin121 Martyn: please don't be rude just because people disagree with you :-( Also, I don't "seem to think" anything other than what I stated, which was, actually, that 'Market Garden' WAS a combined allied effort, and therefore would be a joint failure, which of course is a relative noun. Your problem is that your 1st language is not English, so not only can you not understand the subtlety of what is said to you, but you make sweeping generalizations in time and topic
@elrjames777 Just like i said, Marker-Garden was an Allied failure, You are the guy who thinks it was 100% British failure. The Allies saw Marker-Garden as a huge gamble and worth the risk, After all been a success the Allies would be in Berlin by 1944, War over more Loot and Booty and able to stop the spread of communism and save more of Europe from Red Army.
Stalinism was the threat after 1944. The Axis became Allies even the Nazis were enlisted into the Allied ranks.
@martynrobin121 No Martyn: you accused me of thinking OMG was a "100% British failure", but I never said it. I merely gave evidence to correct your imbalanced assertion which derided the American contribution: "that coward Eisenhower" whilst praising the British: "Montgomery was the greatest leader the allies had". Similarly, your "loot and booty" and "well known fact" type phrases are simply politically motivated pejoratives and meaningless in the context of military history :-)
@elrjames777 Look mate, Market-Garden was a joint Allied failure. Both sides knew it was massive gamble and both sides took that gamble, Eisenhower gave the "go ahead" yet its Monty who seems to take full-blame. Eisenhower was the coward and unfit to lead, As both Monty & Patton said.
Eisenhower tactic was "Let the Russains do all the work" Red Army invites the Allies to joint attack on Berlin, Eisenhower says "Let the Russians bleed for Berlin"
@martynrobin121 Firstly Martyn, as I mentioned to you earlier: I am not your mate :-) Secondly, I agree your first three sentences 100%; they are the most sensible and balanced contributions you have made to the topic in this thread :-) Thirdly, and sadly, you then go on to spoil your own credibility with a remark of unnecessary irascibility, simply to express your anti American bias. What is your source for what you quote Eisenhower as saying: give me the reference :-)
@Tralgit You said without the US the UK would have lost? Dont you mean the British Empire not UK? Also it was impossible for the British Empire to lose the war, For the simple fact the Axis goal was never to defeat Britain, Adolf Hitler begged the British during the entire war for peace-talks, Hitlers offers were great the British could only GAIN! not lose! Also it was the Soviet Union that played the main role during the entire war, A well known fact.
@Tralgit YES, Its is a well known FACT. Research....
It was impossible for the British to lose the war, Its very simple my friend. Hitler did not want to defeat the British, The Axis made endless attempts of peace-talks with Britain. Hitler saw the British as equals and had much respect for its culture,history & Empire. As Churchill said, "There would be no peace-talks with Germany, They would give in too easy" Britain was never going to lose the war, How could they?
@Tralgit Actually, Martyn is not a total idiot: Indeed, what should actually be well known to him by now is our realization that he is clever enough to provocatively present his politically bias generalizations about the past without troubling himself with their historical accuracy or any properly sourced background detail :-)
@Tralgit I leave any thinking to officers like you; I didn't insult anyone who "fought and died", whatever you think they did it for; and I didn't insult you or even Martyn either :-(
@Tralgit Hard to say: he's all over the place: his vernacular indicates 'lower order' UK but English is not his first language: just gets the background from viewing u tube presentations and then hitches his ego to the winning side :-)
Anybody who read eavn one book about African campaign...they would know that Patton and Rommel never faced off...That the 8.the army allone outnummberd afrika corps by 4 to 1...and that at one point Monty nearly broke off his attack at al alamain...Churchill intrerved and says ...is there any general that can win a battle...
Rommel infamous?! (02:55) He is regarded as having been a humane and professional officer. His Afrikakorps was never accused of war crimes. Soldiers captured during his Africa campaign were reported to have been treated humanely. Furthermore, he ignored orders to kill or capture commandos, Jewish soldiers and civilians in all theaters of his command. I don't like this documentary.
Anyone who knows anything about Rommel knows he is a man of honor. These shows are always biased against the enemy, it's life. Rommel was definitely worth respecting.
that prima donna monty said the same thing. facts are he crossed the siegfried line min. casulties comparatively, crossed the rhine, pulled his army out of a battle, marched them 300 miles straight into another one with no hot food, warm bed or bath. Wasnt it eisenhower that said monty could have one the same, but we would still be waiting. Too cautious. Rommel himself said patton was the best we had(regards to D-day invasion and him being present)f. I'll take his word for it. Who are you.......
It is purely amazing at how Germany, with inferior numbers/recourses managed to burn the British at building tanks/equipment. Their tanks were just, outstanding, and lasted so long.
In Africa the British tanks were equiv to German and better armored. Rommel commanded a combined Gernany/Italy force which was large. The 88mm gun made he difference.
".....but the French commanders couldn't stomach a long fight and ordered their men to throw down their arms." Zut alors! It's deja vu 'appening all over again!
Lost Evidence? Certainly! The whole two and a half years of desert fighting before this! Why does a documentary entitled "North Africa" start in November 1942? If they wanted to make a documentary from the point when the Americans got involved, that's fine, but then they should've just called it "Lost Evidence: The Tunisia Campaign" or "Lost Evidence: Operation Torch".
The British defeated the italians and germans long before the americans got there the italians and germans just couldnt deal with the harsh conditions in desert warfare!
@martynrobin121 hold on, thats not realy tru, yes the brits did this. but not that the germans and italians didnt know how to go tho war, its yust that montgomery had like a 5 to 1 advantige over the axis, this wold knok everybody of its feet. the italians had bad wapons and know leaders at all, the germans had a verry good leader and verry wel made wapons, however you just cant beat this nummber of supperiority, thats what i think
@EEMTbv The British were more experianced in desert warfare they had better equipment and resources and had broken the germand and italian enigma codes. Germany had a great general Rommel who did a great job the Germans and Italians pushed the british back the Egypt Border but they were defeated at the battle of al alamein and the Axis were on full retreat after that. And when the Americans and British forces arrived it just the case of driving them out for good.
@martynrobin121 True. But you have to say that Rommel, with just 50 panzers, was greatly outnumbered by the British. Even so, fighting with only 50 tanks against over 400 is amazing by itself. Monty simply overwhelmed Rommel.
@Tyco200 Yes i agree, Rommel was a great General. However most of his Resources were captured by the British as the Axis main Forces and Resources were going to Russia. When Monty took over as head of the British 8th Army he became the new Desert Fox, He humiliated Rommel at Al Alamein, And the Axis were crushed also in Libya. Monty sure showed Rommel. However Rommel earned our respect he had balls and he dared to do anything! Even ater Al Alamein he tried to counter attack 5 times!
@P1B1U1H1 Monty was British you idiot!!! He was the leader of the British 8th Army who defeated the Axis forces at Al Alamein,1942 the turning point in the Western Front (N.Africa).He also lead the 8th Army to invade Italy 1943, And was the leader of the Allied land forces in D-Day and the new Western Front.
@martynrobin121 Everyone knows he was British. Everyone celebrates him these days. If you want a great book, pick up Eighth Army. Monty had one huge flaw--that mustache. A gander at the Bayeux tapestry will prove that those with mustaches tend to be the bad guys. It was surely true, except for Monty, in WWII.
@P1B1U1H1 Monty was the bad guy in the end, He was great in N.Africa and Italy, But in the Western Europe he had too many rivals with American generals wanting to make names for themselfs, Monty made alot of bad gambles in the end, And didnt take it well when the Americans crossed the river into Germany first.
@P1B1U1H1 Monty was a great general in N.Africa, After the defeat at Tobruk, Churchill ordered a last stand and no more retreat. At the battle of Al Alamein British 8th Army defeated the Axis forces,(Whitch was the turning point in the Western Front,1942). Rommel and the Axis were crushed, They used the last of there Fuel and Resources to counter attack the British, 5 times they attacked and were humiliated. Rommel had no choice run away or be defeated and caputred. Axis were finished in africa
@martynrobin121 And before that, Monty was defeated in every other battle. Tobruk was a pure failure. Also note the fact that Germany had no fuel or recourses. They were doomed either way. If they had the recourses, they would've been successful.
Monty was very senior. He was right 99% of the time. His thrust to Berlin was the best plan, not the spread out plan the US adopted for political reasons in an election.
@NearAbbeyRoad Monty and Patton became rivals after Italy 1943, Both wanted to make a name for themsefls and make the other look bad and there foolish gambles lost countless thousands of lives. The only thing they had in common was that they both thought Eisenhower shouldnt be the supreme leader, He was a diplomat and Desk General.
Monty thought not much of Patton after disobeying orders in Sicily and going for the capital for a photo shoot - which he was not supposed to do. This cost a lot of US and UK lives.
@NearAbbeyRoad No rivalary between Monty and Patton?? In Sicily they raced each other and the same in W.Europe. Yes Monty was senior to Patton, But they wanted to "out do"! each other. Just like when Patton crossed the Rhine in the Little boats and not telling anybody.
They did not race each other. Stop looking at crap TV docs. Monty was too professional to race. Monty was much senior and was in no position to race Patton. The first across the Rhine were the Black Watch.
Monty wanted nothing to do with the liberation of Paris considering it a side show. The Brits didn't even send a top man in the formal gatherings after the liberation of Paris. Monty was concerned at getting into Germany and clearing them away from the Channel coast.
@NearAbbeyRoad Monty had made a name for himself in N.Africa and Patton wanted to make a name for himself as heroe.(Americans love proppaganda) And both were angry about not been picked to be supreme Leader, Mainly Monty who said Eisenhower was a desk general and not suitable to lead. Patton saw Monty as his rival, YES Monty might not have seen Patton as his rival. I know Monty didnt care about Proppaganda and Parades,etc but the Americans did and saw the British as Friendly rivals.
Patton could never be picked to be supreme leader, as he was too junior. Eisenhower was political. Churchill suggested that the leader in Europe be a US man to get them on his side in having Germany First.
Patton was a creation of the US media as they needed a hero. Monty cared nothing of Patton, only US newsreels did.
@NearAbbeyRoad Yes i agree Eisenhower was agreat Diplomat, I think Patton saw Monty as his rival and done everything to make the British look bad, And the U.S better. I know Monty wasnt happy when he heard that Eisenhower was the supreme leader.
@NearAbbeyRoad Glad to hear someone else finally say it. Patton was the most overrated, immature, egotistical little sparrowfart the U.S. Army has ever produced. Friend of my grandfather's fought under Patton, and said Patton wouldn't even let the guys who were risking their lives for him take minor trophies (pistols, medals, dog tags, etc). Patton was despised by the men who fought under him. Irks the shit out of me that we have a museum in his honor in Kentucky.
Except for being America's first proponent of Armored Warfare. Or his turning around the disaster at Kasserine Pass, and defeated Rommel at his own game. Or spearheading the successful invasion of Sicily. Or his equally successful campaign in the south of France. Or his brilliant achievement of pivoting his entire Army 90° North, in the snow, to rescue the troops in Bastogne, during the Battle of the Bulge.
@skeilak Patton had nothing but contempt for the men dying and risking their lives for him. All he cared about was his own glory. Patton got a lot of American soldiers killed unnecessarily because he was in such a hurry to make a name for himself. He even slapped a soldier in the face who was in the hospital suffering from combat fatigue (and still kept his job!). Patton is a prime example of the arrogance and chicanery that leads to the enlisted ranks low morale and hatred of officers.
So, your problem with Gen. Patton, isn't that he was a brilliant field commander, or a master of logistics, or even a man who won battles, and thus shortened the war, it was that he wasn't "touchie - feelie" enough?
The "slapping incident" occurred because Patton was enraged, that a man he felt was a coward, was placed amongst his, "brave and glorious wounded". Contempt for his men?
Patton was fired for that incident, and as a result, lost command of US forces for the D-Day invasion.
@skeilak My problem with Patton is his notorious arrogance, overrated sense of self, and utterly misanthropic attitude towards enlisted men who took all the risks and did all the real fighting. Patton was neither masterful nor brilliant. Slapping a hospitalized man he didn't even know for presumed cowardice is merely one example of his arrogance and ignorance. Patton was never fired, he still collected checks from the DOD. If the enlisted man had slapped Patton, he'd have been in the brig.
You appear to have a private agenda. (No pun intended.)
Since there is no reasoning with you, I won't bother.
I suggest you argue with every published historian of the Second World War, and every military college in the world, where Patton's tactics are taught. Obviously, you know more than all of them.
@skeilak Patton believed he was Alexander the Great re-incarnated. He also believed he was the re-incarnation of several other historical figures; and couldn't resist reminding everyone in earshot about how incredibly lucky they were to be in the presence of such a towering intellectual and magnificent leader of (apparently) every great army that ever marched. Not everyone bought into his bullshit. No one who believes in re-incarnation should be making life and death decisions for others.
Nimrod..? All that you mentioned has ZERO to do with Gen. Patton being one of WW2's most able field commanders, a master of logistics, and one of most successful Generals in US History.
Are you aware that about 800 million Hindus strongly believe in reincarnation? And that it was a Hindu army, that defeated, and killed, Alexander the Great?
Go read a history book, and stop making an utter fool of yourself.
@skeilak Perhaps you should consult a dictionary and read the definition of the word: "Nimrod". Strong belief in the afterlife, supernatural, spiritual...............doesn't make it's existence any more likely. Alexander the great was never defeated, by Hindus or anyone. He was also dead at 32, possibly from meningitis or some other illness. Perhaps YOU should go and read a history book and get your facts straight.
The Bible describes "Nimrod" as the King of Assyria. He is said to be the fool that built the Tower of Babel. Who's arrogance, and stupidity, brought the Lord's wrath upon all mankind.
Sound like anyone we know?
Alexander was defeated in the Battle of the Hydaspes, in today's Punjab, India, where he was said to have suffered an arrow wound, from which, he never recovered, and where his is army mutinied, forcing his retreat to Babylon, where he later died, possibly from poisoning.
@skeilak Once again, check your facts. Alexander the great was never NEVER defeated. There is no verifiable historical or archaeological evidence that there was ever any attempt to build a tower to god. The bible is 100% bullshit (in case you weren't aware). A "Nimrod" is a great hunter, it's obvious you didn't know that earlier. General Patton was most certainly NOT the re-incarnation of Alexander the great. That makes Patton a liar and/or delusional, two qualities you don't want in a leader.
@bddc201 No way! The bible is bullshit? WTF u think u playing at boy. Do u know how many prophecies named in the bible has come true? Go take the time to actually read the bible before making really rash comments like that.
@Godrocks2100 I've read the bible many times over and can confidently say it is 100% unadulterated bullshit. And yes, I know exactly how many prophecies in the bible have come true: Zero. Heaven isn't real, Jesus isn't coming, this life is all you get.
@bddc201 ....I have to agree with you on this one. He was way overrated. In general his men hated him and as one of them said of old blood and guts "he supplied the guts but it was us who gave the blood". Patton's "end run" across France was south of where the real fighting was in hedgerow country. In fact in the battle for Metz with overwhelming superior manpower and material, against a well entrenched German defensive force, he showed that he was no better than any other allied general.
Who is the merciless German commander the narrator mentioned at the beginning? Rommel? These documentaries are sometimes so exaggerated with merciless statements.
1) erwin rommel was not ruthless. he brought honor to germany when others brough shame. 2) the tiger was not an important weapon in tunisia. the 88 flak gun was of course, but most of the armored vehicles by the end of north africa were captured allied vehicles
@hatemf23 Nothing merciless about him, probably just trying to make it sound more dramatic. Of all reich commanders, Rommel was exceptionally merciful towards his prisoners of war, treating them with respect and feeding them properly. In my book, Rommel had integrity and should be given the respect he deserves.
HELP, I can't find "The Killing of Osama bin Laden: The Lost Evidence"
FunkMan53 1 week ago
@FunkMan53 there was evidence?
jsharps1000 3 days ago
rommel was more humane than the other commanders
skinheadfred94 1 month ago
the SS were not in Nord Afrika.... fucking fail.
edttex 1 month ago
@edttex SD was in NA
FreddyClapton 1 month ago
@FreddyClapton You do know what the Sicherheitsdienst was dont you? yeah the SD were not a combat einheit, they also were not directly attached to the Waffen SS, they were raised along side the Gestapo or Geheime Staatspolizei, The SS-VT/TV and Waffen SS were Combat units, and they were not in NordAfrika. Now in this little fail of a doc, they show Waffen SS members in NA. that is a fail.
edttex 1 month ago
haha alright.
french army plans:
a, surrender
b, form the resistance when the enemy leaves
lol
newnumide 1 month ago
I love WW2 documentaries, unfortunately this annoying dude is in almost half of them!
arashfoxy 2 months ago
Them Yanks relly got their arses kicked at Kasserine Pass, it's lucky for them they had the Brits there to save the day. Now they try and pretend they won the war all by themselves, bless em lol
KevinJKtheman 2 months ago
@KevinJKtheman Yeah, sort of reenactment of you Brits gettng chased out of Europe via Dunkirk. Though we didn't have boats to save our asses. And I find it hilarious that you make an accusation when you Brits try to marginalize ANYTHING the US did in WW2.
Clonetrooper1139 2 months ago
@Clonetrooper1139 "you Brits try to marginalize ANYTHING the US did in WW2"
Well thats rich coming from a yank. its usually you guys that try to marginalise ANYTHING the Brits, and the other Allied forces did. We fully acept that the US did a lot toward winning the war. But so did ALL the Allied forces,
KevinJKtheman 2 months ago
@KevinJKtheman "That's rich coming from a Yank." Isn't it though? HA! You Limeys are great. Yes EVERYONE who contributed to that war won it. I agree. So since countrymen from our homelands and others bled in that conflict, let's stop the childish bickering, shall we?
Clonetrooper1139 2 months ago
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@Clonetrooper1139 Fine by me my American friend
KevinJKtheman 2 months ago
@Clonetrooper1139 What? The BEF did not get pushed out of mainland Europe till 1941. And Dunkirk was a great escape, The BEF was outnumbered and could do nothing 2 stop the Axis Blitzreig. Remember the British had an Empire & 1/4 of the World protect. We got our ass kicked in Europe outnumbered 1940-41 BUT we kicked the Axis ass in Africa & Mid-East also saving our Mother-Country from possible invasion, and with Uncle Stalin, Hitler & Axis Europe was defeated.
martynrobin121 2 months ago
mercyless?? worthless yanks, you are so full of it
gotknoted 3 months ago
french troops surrendered... what a surprise
lobster9207 4 months ago 18
@lobster9207 They didn't surrender. They were ordered to lay down their arms. That may seem like splitting hairs, but it's not the same thing, due to the options that follow. Rejoining the allies is not the same outcome as sitting in a concentration camp.
gsmonks 4 months ago
@gsmonks they were fighting for the nazi and italians then when they were loosing they joined the allys.. French were fuckin scum
hukles1 4 months ago
@lobster9207 well if you would look at the french military history they have one of most victorious lists.
so really its stupid to believe all the french do is surrender. cause of every country i can make a simular remark. well except maybe great dukedom luxembourg or vaticancity
zorgfleeter 3 weeks ago
My dad was in this battle gives me chills to see this unbelievable.
motheronafight 4 months ago
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i don't know why they always shows tunisia as a rocky desert even in documentaries, cuz only the south of the country is a desert, in the rest of the country you won't be able to recognize if you are in italy or north africa, also not all the big battles were fought in desert.
Marouder131 4 months ago
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Marouder131 4 months ago
Polecam , Wojtek the soldier bear i The General's Honour
azja7777 4 months ago
Patton is the only allied general who did his homework before geting into command...he and Rommel deserve respect...Monty less.
Sveles25 5 months ago
@Sveles25 Monty was greatest leader the Allies had, It was Monty who humiliated Rommel and defeated Rommel at Alam Halfa,El Aameins the greatest and most vital battles of Africa, Rommel ran away from Monty and betrayed Hitler and left his men to surrender and go into mutiny. It was Monty who lead the D-Day invasion, Operation overlord and saved W.Europe from the spread of Communism. Monty was superior to Patton, Anybody could have done what Patton did, Arrive late when the enemy is weak!
martynrobin121 4 months ago
@martynrobin121 My friend Patton took the majority of Sicily while Monty was sipping tea while driving up the west coast. Yeah Patton was out of his mind, but damn it he got the job done. And let's not forget Market Garden. Monty's plan and it failed.
"I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed."
....(You guessed it)George S. Patton
southparkfan2717 4 months ago
@southparkfan2717 Monty was Pattons superior, And Patton didnt take the majority of Sicily, Monty was to his right every-step of the way. It was Monty who defeat Rommel and won N.Africa, It was Monty who lead the D-Day landing Operation Overlord and deefated Rommel again! And lets not forget that Operation Market-Garden had been a success the Allies would have took Berlin first and saved more of Europe from Communism. Patton was just a tank commander, Monty was the leader!!!
martynrobin121 4 months ago
@martynrobin121 Who did the German's fear more? Patton. Who finally broke the Allies out of the hedge rows of Normandy? Patton. Who was on the doorstep of Germany and would have advanced in had the supplies not gone to Montgomery? Patton.
There was no stopping Patton and 3rd Army.
southparkfan2717 4 months ago
@southparkfan2717 It was Monty who defeated Rommel,And won the war in N.Africa. Also it was Monty who lead the Allies in D-Day invasion, The most vital battle of Normandy was Caen, Whitch was taken by Monty Army, As Rommel said "Whoever controls Caen controls Normandy". It was Monty who was the leader of the Allied ground Forces, Patton was just a tank commander, Monty was his superior. Monty would have taken Berlin and saved more of Europe from Communism if Market Garden had worked!
martynrobin121 4 months ago
@southparkfan2717 ......Haha... Patton didn't even fight in the hedge row country (bocage) and the breakout (Operation Cobra) happened before the 3rd Army was even activated. It was VII and VIII Corps' who achieved the breakout in conjunction with the British/Canadian breakout around Caen (Operation Bluecoat). Patton's "end run" across France was south of where the real fighting was. Instead of buying into the Patton myth try studying some real history.
shankly01 4 months ago
@martynrobin121 Yeah loved Monty's work at Operation Market Garden.
Clonetrooper1139 2 months ago
@Clonetrooper1139 So i take it you blame Monty for the failure of Market-Garden? How the hell was Monty 2 know there would be SS & Panzer Divisions in the right place at the right time?
martynrobin121 2 months ago
@martynrobin121 How was he supposed to know? Um. . .The Dutch resistance sent intelligence reports. He dismissed the tanks. Bu then ultimately i lay the blame the debacle on Eisenhower. He greenlighted the project. My salute to your country's airborne troops who held out as long as they could.
Clonetrooper1139 2 months ago
@Clonetrooper1139 You cant just blame 1 man for the Operation, Remember the British Armour had many problems, The People of Belgium were having Victory parades and it was hard to even advance. Also they had 2 deal with Axis units left behind,etc. The Operation went slow due to many reasons, Monty info said they were concript troops, However they were elite SS and Panzer divisions on rest from the Eastern Front. Churchill wanted the war over 1944, Monty had to take the gamble that cost him alot.
martynrobin121 2 months ago
@martynrobin121 Don't you mean the Dutch people of the Netherlands Martyn :-)
elrjames777 4 weeks ago
@elrjames777 I fail to see your point?
martynrobin121 3 weeks ago
@martynrobin121 The point is Martyn that you got the "facts" wrong again !! General Horrocks' XXX Corps (the "British armour") was advancing through HOLLAND not, as you said, Belgium: jeez :-O
elrjames777 3 weeks ago
@Clonetrooper1139 Martyn wants us to believe in British ingenuity, fighting spirit, etc, and US involvement as just dead weight. The fact is 1st ALLIED Airbourne Army deployed 1 Polish brigade 2 US divisions and only 1 British division in operation 'Market'. US officers were skeptical of Montgomery's flawed plan, which he refused to change, and the all British XXX Corps 'Garden' operation depended on just one road both for advance + supply, and required all bridges to be taken
elrjames777 4 weeks ago
@elrjames777 And your the idiot who seems to think Market-Garden was British failure. However the Operation was an Allied failure, Just research. The Yanks & Brits took a massive gamble to win the war and stop communism. At least the British wanted to advance and take Berlin by 1944, and save more of Europe from Communism(Unlike that coward Eisnhower) The US involvement was mostly trade & later loans, They were the bankers.
martynrobin121 3 weeks ago
@martynrobin121 Hmm, you have never been to Normandy, Bestogne and a few more places. Without the USA the UK would have lost.
Tralgit 3 weeks ago
@martynrobin121 Martyn: please don't be rude just because people disagree with you :-( Also, I don't "seem to think" anything other than what I stated, which was, actually, that 'Market Garden' WAS a combined allied effort, and therefore would be a joint failure, which of course is a relative noun. Your problem is that your 1st language is not English, so not only can you not understand the subtlety of what is said to you, but you make sweeping generalizations in time and topic
elrjames777 3 weeks ago
@elrjames777 Just like i said, Marker-Garden was an Allied failure, You are the guy who thinks it was 100% British failure. The Allies saw Marker-Garden as a huge gamble and worth the risk, After all been a success the Allies would be in Berlin by 1944, War over more Loot and Booty and able to stop the spread of communism and save more of Europe from Red Army.
Stalinism was the threat after 1944. The Axis became Allies even the Nazis were enlisted into the Allied ranks.
martynrobin121 1 week ago
@martynrobin121 No Martyn: you accused me of thinking OMG was a "100% British failure", but I never said it. I merely gave evidence to correct your imbalanced assertion which derided the American contribution: "that coward Eisenhower" whilst praising the British: "Montgomery was the greatest leader the allies had". Similarly, your "loot and booty" and "well known fact" type phrases are simply politically motivated pejoratives and meaningless in the context of military history :-)
elrjames777 1 week ago
@elrjames777 Look mate, Market-Garden was a joint Allied failure. Both sides knew it was massive gamble and both sides took that gamble, Eisenhower gave the "go ahead" yet its Monty who seems to take full-blame. Eisenhower was the coward and unfit to lead, As both Monty & Patton said.
Eisenhower tactic was "Let the Russains do all the work" Red Army invites the Allies to joint attack on Berlin, Eisenhower says "Let the Russians bleed for Berlin"
Monty & Patton were the MEN!
martynrobin121 1 week ago
@martynrobin121 Firstly Martyn, as I mentioned to you earlier: I am not your mate :-) Secondly, I agree your first three sentences 100%; they are the most sensible and balanced contributions you have made to the topic in this thread :-) Thirdly, and sadly, you then go on to spoil your own credibility with a remark of unnecessary irascibility, simply to express your anti American bias. What is your source for what you quote Eisenhower as saying: give me the reference :-)
elrjames777 1 week ago
@martynrobin121 He was told by the Dutch resistance, all info was ignored.
Tralgit 3 weeks ago
@Tralgit You said without the US the UK would have lost? Dont you mean the British Empire not UK? Also it was impossible for the British Empire to lose the war, For the simple fact the Axis goal was never to defeat Britain, Adolf Hitler begged the British during the entire war for peace-talks, Hitlers offers were great the British could only GAIN! not lose! Also it was the Soviet Union that played the main role during the entire war, A well known fact.
martynrobin121 1 week ago
@martynrobin121 Another well know fact; you are a total idiot, sweet dreams joker.!
Tralgit 1 week ago
@Tralgit YES, Its is a well known FACT. Research....
It was impossible for the British to lose the war, Its very simple my friend. Hitler did not want to defeat the British, The Axis made endless attempts of peace-talks with Britain. Hitler saw the British as equals and had much respect for its culture,history & Empire. As Churchill said, "There would be no peace-talks with Germany, They would give in too easy" Britain was never going to lose the war, How could they?
martynrobin121 1 week ago
@martynrobin121 Sure, sure, did you take your medicine today?
Tralgit 1 week ago
@Tralgit Actually, Martyn is not a total idiot: Indeed, what should actually be well known to him by now is our realization that he is clever enough to provocatively present his politically bias generalizations about the past without troubling himself with their historical accuracy or any properly sourced background detail :-)
elrjames777 1 week ago
@elrjames777 Yes and no, this sort of BS is an insult for people who have fought and died for the UK and Europe.
Tralgit 1 week ago
@Tralgit Do you mean mine or Martyn's :-)
elrjames777 1 week ago
@elrjames777 What do you think?, have a nice day.
Tralgit 1 week ago
@Tralgit I leave any thinking to officers like you; I didn't insult anyone who "fought and died", whatever you think they did it for; and I didn't insult you or even Martyn either :-(
elrjames777 1 week ago
@elrjames777 Not you, this Martyn figure is a disgrace.
Tralgit 1 week ago
@Tralgit Yeah, hes all mixed up; too many "well known facts" :-)
elrjames777 1 week ago
@elrjames777 Most likely a Pallywood fan.
Tralgit 1 week ago
@Tralgit Hard to say: he's all over the place: his vernacular indicates 'lower order' UK but English is not his first language: just gets the background from viewing u tube presentations and then hitches his ego to the winning side :-)
elrjames777 1 week ago
@elrjames777 English is not mine first language but he is just plain nuts.!!
Tralgit 1 week ago
Anybody who read eavn one book about African campaign...they would know that Patton and Rommel never faced off...That the 8.the army allone outnummberd afrika corps by 4 to 1...and that at one point Monty nearly broke off his attack at al alamain...Churchill intrerved and says ...is there any general that can win a battle...
Sveles25 5 months ago
I hate when people say rommel was a bad guy. -.- bullshit
iranus100 5 months ago
Rommel infamous?! (02:55) He is regarded as having been a humane and professional officer. His Afrikakorps was never accused of war crimes. Soldiers captured during his Africa campaign were reported to have been treated humanely. Furthermore, he ignored orders to kill or capture commandos, Jewish soldiers and civilians in all theaters of his command. I don't like this documentary.
andres2001us 5 months ago
@andres2001us
Anyone who knows anything about Rommel knows he is a man of honor. These shows are always biased against the enemy, it's life. Rommel was definitely worth respecting.
sherman3211 5 months ago 13
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aboahmadaliraqi 5 months ago
that prima donna monty said the same thing. facts are he crossed the siegfried line min. casulties comparatively, crossed the rhine, pulled his army out of a battle, marched them 300 miles straight into another one with no hot food, warm bed or bath. Wasnt it eisenhower that said monty could have one the same, but we would still be waiting. Too cautious. Rommel himself said patton was the best we had(regards to D-day invasion and him being present)f. I'll take his word for it. Who are you.......
MegaProjectpat 5 months ago
Crap series...too much 're-enactment' by geeks playing soldiers....where's any 'lost evidence'.....???
macbrack04 6 months ago
frodette @ 4:22
MauserK43 7 months ago
Only about 20 Tiger tanks were ever used in North Africa.
NearAbbeyRoad 9 months ago
I don't give a fuck about those germans they might not have wanted to but they shed lots of american and allied troops blood.
Countryfan881 9 months ago
@Countryfan881 Lol. Same could be said for the Allies. You sir do no deserve to breathe the oxygen these man died for.
Even soldiers respected their enemy more than you respect the "enemy".
MrAquarius7 9 months ago
It is purely amazing at how Germany, with inferior numbers/recourses managed to burn the British at building tanks/equipment. Their tanks were just, outstanding, and lasted so long.
Tyco200 10 months ago
@Tyco200
In Africa the British tanks were equiv to German and better armored. Rommel commanded a combined Gernany/Italy force which was large. The 88mm gun made he difference.
NearAbbeyRoad 9 months ago
Rommel!!!
turban45 10 months ago
no field army can beat america and Canada
Chansulus 11 months ago
".....but the French commanders couldn't stomach a long fight and ordered their men to throw down their arms." Zut alors! It's deja vu 'appening all over again!
mjeshaw 1 year ago
Lost Evidence? Certainly! The whole two and a half years of desert fighting before this! Why does a documentary entitled "North Africa" start in November 1942? If they wanted to make a documentary from the point when the Americans got involved, that's fine, but then they should've just called it "Lost Evidence: The Tunisia Campaign" or "Lost Evidence: Operation Torch".
mjeshaw 1 year ago
@mjeshaw Watch "the lost evidence alamein"
P1B1U1H1 11 months ago
at 00:59 he looks like one of the chuckle brothers.... just a thought
griffy1988 1 year ago
Alamein was the real turning point in the war!
martynrobin121 1 year ago
The British defeated the italians and germans long before the americans got there the italians and germans just couldnt deal with the harsh conditions in desert warfare!
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@martynrobin121 hold on, thats not realy tru, yes the brits did this. but not that the germans and italians didnt know how to go tho war, its yust that montgomery had like a 5 to 1 advantige over the axis, this wold knok everybody of its feet. the italians had bad wapons and know leaders at all, the germans had a verry good leader and verry wel made wapons, however you just cant beat this nummber of supperiority, thats what i think
EEMTbv 1 year ago
@EEMTbv The British were more experianced in desert warfare they had better equipment and resources and had broken the germand and italian enigma codes. Germany had a great general Rommel who did a great job the Germans and Italians pushed the british back the Egypt Border but they were defeated at the battle of al alamein and the Axis were on full retreat after that. And when the Americans and British forces arrived it just the case of driving them out for good.
martynrobin121 1 year ago
@martynrobin121 True. But you have to say that Rommel, with just 50 panzers, was greatly outnumbered by the British. Even so, fighting with only 50 tanks against over 400 is amazing by itself. Monty simply overwhelmed Rommel.
Tyco200 10 months ago
@Tyco200 Yes i agree, Rommel was a great General. However most of his Resources were captured by the British as the Axis main Forces and Resources were going to Russia. When Monty took over as head of the British 8th Army he became the new Desert Fox, He humiliated Rommel at Al Alamein, And the Axis were crushed also in Libya. Monty sure showed Rommel. However Rommel earned our respect he had balls and he dared to do anything! Even ater Al Alamein he tried to counter attack 5 times!
martynrobin121 10 months ago
@martynrobin121 Wrong. Monty defeated them. Wavell stank.
P1B1U1H1 11 months ago
@P1B1U1H1 Monty was British you idiot!!! He was the leader of the British 8th Army who defeated the Axis forces at Al Alamein,1942 the turning point in the Western Front (N.Africa).He also lead the 8th Army to invade Italy 1943, And was the leader of the Allied land forces in D-Day and the new Western Front.
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@martynrobin121 Everyone knows he was British. Everyone celebrates him these days. If you want a great book, pick up Eighth Army. Monty had one huge flaw--that mustache. A gander at the Bayeux tapestry will prove that those with mustaches tend to be the bad guys. It was surely true, except for Monty, in WWII.
P1B1U1H1 11 months ago
@P1B1U1H1 Monty was the bad guy in the end, He was great in N.Africa and Italy, But in the Western Europe he had too many rivals with American generals wanting to make names for themselfs, Monty made alot of bad gambles in the end, And didnt take it well when the Americans crossed the river into Germany first.
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@martynrobin121 True enough, but he did basically beat the Narzis in North Africa.
P1B1U1H1 11 months ago
@P1B1U1H1 Monty was a great general in N.Africa, After the defeat at Tobruk, Churchill ordered a last stand and no more retreat. At the battle of Al Alamein British 8th Army defeated the Axis forces,(Whitch was the turning point in the Western Front,1942). Rommel and the Axis were crushed, They used the last of there Fuel and Resources to counter attack the British, 5 times they attacked and were humiliated. Rommel had no choice run away or be defeated and caputred. Axis were finished in africa
martynrobin121 11 months ago
@martynrobin121 And before that, Monty was defeated in every other battle. Tobruk was a pure failure. Also note the fact that Germany had no fuel or recourses. They were doomed either way. If they had the recourses, they would've been successful.
Tyco200 10 months ago
@Tyco200
Monty took over at El Alemein and drove Rommel out.
NearAbbeyRoad 9 months ago
@martynrobin121
Monty was very senior. He was right 99% of the time. His thrust to Berlin was the best plan, not the spread out plan the US adopted for political reasons in an election.
NearAbbeyRoad 9 months ago
@NearAbbeyRoad Monty and Patton became rivals after Italy 1943, Both wanted to make a name for themsefls and make the other look bad and there foolish gambles lost countless thousands of lives. The only thing they had in common was that they both thought Eisenhower shouldnt be the supreme leader, He was a diplomat and Desk General.
martynrobin121 9 months ago
@martynrobin121
Monty thought not much of Patton after disobeying orders in Sicily and going for the capital for a photo shoot - which he was not supposed to do. This cost a lot of US and UK lives.
Monty was senior to Patton, so no rivalry.
NearAbbeyRoad 9 months ago
@NearAbbeyRoad No rivalary between Monty and Patton?? In Sicily they raced each other and the same in W.Europe. Yes Monty was senior to Patton, But they wanted to "out do"! each other. Just like when Patton crossed the Rhine in the Little boats and not telling anybody.
martynrobin121 9 months ago
@martynrobin121
They did not race each other. Stop looking at crap TV docs. Monty was too professional to race. Monty was much senior and was in no position to race Patton. The first across the Rhine were the Black Watch.
Monty wanted nothing to do with the liberation of Paris considering it a side show. The Brits didn't even send a top man in the formal gatherings after the liberation of Paris. Monty was concerned at getting into Germany and clearing them away from the Channel coast.
NearAbbeyRoad 9 months ago
@NearAbbeyRoad Monty had made a name for himself in N.Africa and Patton wanted to make a name for himself as heroe.(Americans love proppaganda) And both were angry about not been picked to be supreme Leader, Mainly Monty who said Eisenhower was a desk general and not suitable to lead. Patton saw Monty as his rival, YES Monty might not have seen Patton as his rival. I know Monty didnt care about Proppaganda and Parades,etc but the Americans did and saw the British as Friendly rivals.
martynrobin121 9 months ago
@martynrobin121
Patton could never be picked to be supreme leader, as he was too junior. Eisenhower was political. Churchill suggested that the leader in Europe be a US man to get them on his side in having Germany First.
Patton was a creation of the US media as they needed a hero. Monty cared nothing of Patton, only US newsreels did.
NearAbbeyRoad 9 months ago
@NearAbbeyRoad Yes i agree Eisenhower was agreat Diplomat, I think Patton saw Monty as his rival and done everything to make the British look bad, And the U.S better. I know Monty wasnt happy when he heard that Eisenhower was the supreme leader.
martynrobin121 9 months ago
@NearAbbeyRoad Glad to hear someone else finally say it. Patton was the most overrated, immature, egotistical little sparrowfart the U.S. Army has ever produced. Friend of my grandfather's fought under Patton, and said Patton wouldn't even let the guys who were risking their lives for him take minor trophies (pistols, medals, dog tags, etc). Patton was despised by the men who fought under him. Irks the shit out of me that we have a museum in his honor in Kentucky.
bddc201 6 months ago
@bddc201
Yeah, Patton was a terrible General...
Except for being America's first proponent of Armored Warfare. Or his turning around the disaster at Kasserine Pass, and defeated Rommel at his own game. Or spearheading the successful invasion of Sicily. Or his equally successful campaign in the south of France. Or his brilliant achievement of pivoting his entire Army 90° North, in the snow, to rescue the troops in Bastogne, during the Battle of the Bulge.
Other than all that, he really sucked.
skeilak 6 months ago
@skeilak Patton had nothing but contempt for the men dying and risking their lives for him. All he cared about was his own glory. Patton got a lot of American soldiers killed unnecessarily because he was in such a hurry to make a name for himself. He even slapped a soldier in the face who was in the hospital suffering from combat fatigue (and still kept his job!). Patton is a prime example of the arrogance and chicanery that leads to the enlisted ranks low morale and hatred of officers.
bddc201 6 months ago
@bddc201
So, your problem with Gen. Patton, isn't that he was a brilliant field commander, or a master of logistics, or even a man who won battles, and thus shortened the war, it was that he wasn't "touchie - feelie" enough?
The "slapping incident" occurred because Patton was enraged, that a man he felt was a coward, was placed amongst his, "brave and glorious wounded". Contempt for his men?
Patton was fired for that incident, and as a result, lost command of US forces for the D-Day invasion.
skeilak 6 months ago
@skeilak My problem with Patton is his notorious arrogance, overrated sense of self, and utterly misanthropic attitude towards enlisted men who took all the risks and did all the real fighting. Patton was neither masterful nor brilliant. Slapping a hospitalized man he didn't even know for presumed cowardice is merely one example of his arrogance and ignorance. Patton was never fired, he still collected checks from the DOD. If the enlisted man had slapped Patton, he'd have been in the brig.
bddc201 6 months ago
@bddc201
You appear to have a private agenda. (No pun intended.)
Since there is no reasoning with you, I won't bother.
I suggest you argue with every published historian of the Second World War, and every military college in the world, where Patton's tactics are taught. Obviously, you know more than all of them.
skeilak 6 months ago
@skeilak Patton believed he was Alexander the Great re-incarnated. He also believed he was the re-incarnation of several other historical figures; and couldn't resist reminding everyone in earshot about how incredibly lucky they were to be in the presence of such a towering intellectual and magnificent leader of (apparently) every great army that ever marched. Not everyone bought into his bullshit. No one who believes in re-incarnation should be making life and death decisions for others.
bddc201 6 months ago
@bddc201
Nimrod..? All that you mentioned has ZERO to do with Gen. Patton being one of WW2's most able field commanders, a master of logistics, and one of most successful Generals in US History.
Are you aware that about 800 million Hindus strongly believe in reincarnation? And that it was a Hindu army, that defeated, and killed, Alexander the Great?
Go read a history book, and stop making an utter fool of yourself.
skeilak 6 months ago
@skeilak Perhaps you should consult a dictionary and read the definition of the word: "Nimrod". Strong belief in the afterlife, supernatural, spiritual...............doesn't make it's existence any more likely. Alexander the great was never defeated, by Hindus or anyone. He was also dead at 32, possibly from meningitis or some other illness. Perhaps YOU should go and read a history book and get your facts straight.
bddc201 6 months ago
@bddc201
The Bible describes "Nimrod" as the King of Assyria. He is said to be the fool that built the Tower of Babel. Who's arrogance, and stupidity, brought the Lord's wrath upon all mankind.
Sound like anyone we know?
Alexander was defeated in the Battle of the Hydaspes, in today's Punjab, India, where he was said to have suffered an arrow wound, from which, he never recovered, and where his is army mutinied, forcing his retreat to Babylon, where he later died, possibly from poisoning.
skeilak 6 months ago
@skeilak Once again, check your facts. Alexander the great was never NEVER defeated. There is no verifiable historical or archaeological evidence that there was ever any attempt to build a tower to god. The bible is 100% bullshit (in case you weren't aware). A "Nimrod" is a great hunter, it's obvious you didn't know that earlier. General Patton was most certainly NOT the re-incarnation of Alexander the great. That makes Patton a liar and/or delusional, two qualities you don't want in a leader.
bddc201 6 months ago
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@bddc201
Again, none of your childish prattle takes away from the fact that Gen. Patton was one of the finest military commanders in modern history.
You have a bug up your ass for George Patton? Who cares?
When you can discredit his achievements, let us know.
In the meantime, you are just making a fool of yourself.
skeilak 6 months ago
@bddc201 No way! The bible is bullshit? WTF u think u playing at boy. Do u know how many prophecies named in the bible has come true? Go take the time to actually read the bible before making really rash comments like that.
Godrocks2100 3 months ago
@Godrocks2100 I've read the bible many times over and can confidently say it is 100% unadulterated bullshit. And yes, I know exactly how many prophecies in the bible have come true: Zero. Heaven isn't real, Jesus isn't coming, this life is all you get.
bddc201 3 months ago
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skeilak 6 months ago
@bddc201 ....I have to agree with you on this one. He was way overrated. In general his men hated him and as one of them said of old blood and guts "he supplied the guts but it was us who gave the blood". Patton's "end run" across France was south of where the real fighting was in hedgerow country. In fact in the battle for Metz with overwhelming superior manpower and material, against a well entrenched German defensive force, he showed that he was no better than any other allied general.
shankly01 6 months ago
Who is the merciless German commander the narrator mentioned at the beginning? Rommel? These documentaries are sometimes so exaggerated with merciless statements.
Lachausis 1 year ago
Hitler should of said, fuck africa, you can have it. And he should have put Rommel in Stalingrad, instead of Africa back in 1942.
mccarrpo 1 year ago
I could watch this series all day, such great programs.
TaZ101SAGA 1 year ago
did they use m10's in n.africa as shown here? thought they used halftracks with 75's on'em as tank killers... im prob wrong.
killercrabman 1 year ago
@killercrabman
Could be they build the m10 from june 1942.
But the never used the m24 there thats a fail in the docu.
214810 1 year ago
I hate how EVERY fucking WWII presentation of any sort is biased against Germany.
Spjungen 1 year ago
1) erwin rommel was not ruthless. he brought honor to germany when others brough shame. 2) the tiger was not an important weapon in tunisia. the 88 flak gun was of course, but most of the armored vehicles by the end of north africa were captured allied vehicles
mark3smle 1 year ago 2
I'm sure the French had no problems "sitting on their hands" and doing nothing
Manegarm66 1 year ago
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killercrabman 1 year ago
Nussbacher? ach ja!
StaffanGoldschmidt 1 year ago
Showing all of the first protoype Tiger's as important weapons in Tunesia show's what kind of silly report this is!
StaffanGoldschmidt 1 year ago
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killercrabman 1 year ago
why is he saying rommel merciless? whats particularly merciless about rommel??
hatemf23 1 year ago
@hatemf23 Nothing merciless about him, probably just trying to make it sound more dramatic. Of all reich commanders, Rommel was exceptionally merciful towards his prisoners of war, treating them with respect and feeding them properly. In my book, Rommel had integrity and should be given the respect he deserves.
Born28thMay 1 year ago 2
the uk the usa and the french are biggest pussies when it comes to a war in all century viva north africa cuba and russia
dyablooo1 1 year ago
@dyablooo1 russians are, and have been biggest pussies all the time.
timesplitterdude 1 year ago
@timesplitterdude No.
prodigywashere 1 year ago
The French and the Arabs are he biggest pussies when it comes to a WAR in the 20th century!
goru426 1 year ago
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@goru426 the uk the usa the french and israel are biggest pussies when it comes to a war in all century viva north africa cuba and russia
dyablooo1 1 year ago
@goru426 we are not arabs origin we are berbers and pur warrios we fight with france and we fuck you
candyman220 1 year ago
@candyman220 shut up desert monkey
hatemf23 1 year ago
@hatemf23 desert fuck you race of pigs you are just pics etfou
candyman220 1 year ago
@candyman220 your fucking berber monkeys The USA and The UK saved your berber asses you could nothing do against German tanks, rifles and shells
you pussies still live in caves, you worst warriors ever fucking arabs
MrS5099 1 year ago
@MrS5099 we fight with France not with USA or UK fuck you
its Berbers who fighting you save nothing son of the bitch and muslims wil be back for kill you and you pussies jews
candyman220 1 year ago
@candyman220 Jesus Christ! you fucking muslim psyc! piece of shit
MrS5099 1 year ago
@MrS5099 Jesus is not the son of god he is the messenger you fucking unbliever you go to hell you see
candyman220 1 year ago
@candyman220 fuck you
MrS5099 1 year ago
@candyman220 learn how to speak fuckin english u stupid hajji
jpom66 1 year ago
@jpom66 fuck you i have 2 languages of my country + french so go fuck yourself
candyman220 1 year ago
Typical French, fight till it gets dangerous, then jack in lol
mmmbeachlover 1 year ago
Yes that What I think too! :)
MrJamesharvey22 2 years ago 8
thanks for the upload this is the one episode ive been wanting to see for ages!
corrion1 2 years ago 16