Amazing, this was totally cutting edge 1974. I have to say it does sound like something Kraftwerk would produce and I'm surprised they never used it! :0)
pssst... pulsars are where the supposedly complicated ET messages are hidden in the pulse drifting/quantization/phase memory, pulse nulling, mode switching/memory observed in their broadband synchrotron beams...
@kyringe Yes it is logical. It doesn't really get any more logical or basic than binary. On/off, black/white, 1/0, etc. Any civilization capable of advanced mathematics and engineering would be able to recognize a pattern and be able to assemble the image, and any with a strong understanding of physics and chemistry (speed of light, atomic weights etc.), would likely be able to interpret most if not all the info. If they can receive it they'll probably figure it out eventually.
Lets say that an alien civilisation can assemble the image, then what.
Understanding physics and chemistry (speed of light, atomic weights etc.) can ibn no way translate the image we see above, if so here si a challenge for you.
Goggle Arecibo message answer and find the mage that is supposed to be the answer and translate it!
@kyringe The number of bits in the string is semiprime divisible only by the # of rows and columns. It has the numbers 1-10 at the beginning of the message hopefully as a key to indicate what the following blocks containing atomic numbers of several elements. Given enough intelligent individuals working on it I would think there's a very high probability of them understanding that. Admittedly given higher likelihood if it were life based on nulceotides anywhere remotely similar to DNA.
@kyringe I can't tell you what the hoax response crop circle said without cheating because I've already seen youtube videos about it. Its almost the same exact message only they replaced carbon with silicon which wouldn't be compatible with the nucleotides that they left the same. In any case it was never meant to be received and was just a publicity maneuver for the telescope. The stars they sent it to will not be in the same position by the time it gets there in 25,000 years.
@KeoTheGuilmon No it wasn't. It's only about 35 light years away now and there is nothing in the direction that it was transmitted for well over another 25,000 light years. We won't hear a response for more than another 80,000 years. If aliens have received it they were already here. Which would seem less likely than randomly guessing the combination to a bank vault by several orders of magnitude. Why would they just happen upon earth with 400 billion other stars in the galaxy?
@TheEpisteme Just because it hasn't reached the surface of a planet or star yet, doesn't mean it hasn't already been examined by extraterrestrials. I think it's obvious that aliens were here long before that message was created and sent into space.
@KeoTheGuilmon Like I said they would have to be here already, and I disagree that that's obvious seeing as there isn't a single shred of empirical evidence to support that claim other than anecdotal testimony. Not to mention the extremely remote statistical probability that they would visit us without having detected any transmissions. Out of the hundreds of billions of other stars in the galaxy what would bring them to ours without them detecting us?
@pashedmotatos Name something then. The transmission signal was a very focused, highly directional beam. It didn't disperse throughout a whole section of the sky. It was aimed at M13 / NGC 6205 in the Hercules constellation. This object is 25,000 light years away and there is nothing in between the path of the signal between it and the earth. Besides it doesn't matter; no intelligent life could have detected it yet without having been hear already as its only traveled 36 light years so far.
@pashedmotatos So name one then. One that would be obstructed also if you were to hold up a pencil eraser at arms length to obstruct the m13 globular cluster in the sky and is closer to us than m13. Again it still doesn't matter anyway because theres definitely not anything in that extremely specific direction within 36 light years, so nothing has received it.
i guess the G note (the main note) is caused by the 0's and the C note (the other note) is caused by 1's. this is how our synthesizers work, rite? electric signals being converted into sound. pretty cool. i actually expected something different but this should be in the radiotelescope's music album. i wish carl sagan put that in his tv show cosmos
advanced evil aliens could take over. They will eat your dead babies as you sleep haha.. But yes ElChristo, a single ruler is much more likely to be corrupt than many individual countries, states, branches of government, planets etc. Keeping checks and balances.
All beings deserve the right to self rule. Countries/Civilizations hold different morals, values, ways of life etc. The question is if we all can rise above self interest, and do what is right. Are we merely slaves to our emotions, to self interests? Or do we have purpose, reason, etc. I hope we can rise above self interest.
ElChristo good point, evil aliens could still succeed subjecting some to immorality, benefiting at expense of others. I argue it is not the best way for an individual or the whole. When there are many countries, working together, cross checking, competing, everyone wins. "workers" "rulers" etc should be placed based on ability, most intelligent should be engineers, etc. Everyone should have a shot at success, to work hard. imposing slavery or immorality it will spread, evil spreads just as good
We have discovered more in the last 100 years than the previous 2,000! This is from working together. Collaboration, teamwork, competition keeping prices low, quality up. Those that best meet the needs of their fellow man are rewarded with success, those that don't are punished with failure. An entrepreneur risks everything he has to start a business. But freedom, respect, benevolence spreads and works. We can overcome our instincts, rise above selfish interests. When we good, in end we all win
If you're evil like us, you probably won't survive haha. On an individual scale, a person has to take advantage of the system, in total the species is less better off when an individual benefits that way. We are but a speck of dust, everything we know a tiny blue green speck. If we can't for the most part work together and achieve, we will never make it. Science relies on freedom of information, we would never get so far if we didn't stand on the shoulders of previous scientists, work together
We need not worry much about evil aliens hearing this any time soon. When you look at the stars you see the past, long before we existed. Even at the speed of light, it takes seconds to reach a planet near us, minutes to reach the sun, and MILLIONS of years for light to reach near stars etc. By the time the signal reaches them and if they are smart enough to detect it, earth and the sun will be long dead, and we will either be much more advanced or dead. But I'm more concerned we're bad haha
Millions of years? I'd say those stars are comparatively distant. A broadcast could reach a nearby star in decades or years (X 2 for the minimum time we'd have to wait for a reply). I think it would probably need to be aimed off-set to compensate for the star's motion, or else it will miss (however, I may have a poor understanding of radio-wave propagation).
@question444 it was aimed at a cluster of stars 25000 light years away. By the time the message reaches them the stars won't be there as they will have moved elsewhere due to the rotation of the galaxy (the Milky Way)
if their that advanced and can come here to kill us. theyre not gonna do it. if your that intelligent, war is silly. their not space bullies lookin for some headshots
They probably wont be like the civilizations you see on TV. It will probably be like us. All they need is 1 person to invent it, then everyone will have one. Like cars. Any murderer can buy a car, and drive to a victims home
if they can invent one vehicle that can travel lightyears hella quickly. and are in a civilization like ours. not everyone can get one. and only a few can drive one.
if its that easy to make and use these, theyre most likely much smarter than us and arent as barbaric and shit
lmao very little comparison. i mean if i needed to i could fly a plane. but our closest star is 25,000 LIGHT years away. so this craft would have to skip through time if it were to get here in a reasonable amount of time, and if a civilisation loke OURS could make this awesoms machine. theyd keep that shit on the downlow. and if this craft were just the latest tech, theyd be too intelligent to even consider taking over or destroyin this almost dead planet
i dont mean on the downlow i mean we'd keep it safe. and it'd be impossible to hijack. but what im saying is slavery is retarded. especially when your that damn intelligent. what would the purpose be? it would be SO easy to do. but i dunno i cant really explain it. im sure you dont really think its likely at all that any extra terrestrial people actually would come here and do such a thing. they could. but they wont
Like I said before, the whole population doesnt have to be intelligent to get far.
When the spanish or whoever went to africa, they enslaved its people. They were more 'intellegent'...they done it, whats stopping aliens from doing it to us?
BECAUSE THEYRE FUCKING SMARTER MAN I HAVE NO OTHER WAY OF EXPLAINING IT. the spainish? not smart people hundreds of years ago that was a horrible comparison. were not the smartest people now. but when a planet discoveres some of our verses' greatest mysteries like how to fucking fold the fabric of space and skip through wormholes and shit. their not going to do somehting as barbaric as slavery or a take over. its like if us americans were murdering and cannibalising our neigbors CONSTANTLY!
Is this what someone recieving the signal would have actually heard or is this a musical interpretation? This was obvio9usly made with a synth, but would a listener to the actual message have heard this 'violin' type sound or more like beeping? Either way, it is cool, as I have always wanted to know what it sounded like.
there are 2 different notes in this sequence visually represented by the binary numbers 1 and 0. The black dots = 0 , the colored dots = 1. Search for "arecibo message" with google and open the wikipedia page.....you'll see what I mean on the bottom of the page
This is a great video
TheKcsmithy 5 days ago
Very enjoyable thank you
jayejayeee 1 week ago
love the video man
xtremetom180 1 week ago
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very interesting video thanks
distractionxx 1 week ago
i enjoyed this vid
ericajjful 1 week ago
really informative and interesting
SuperDogbrown 1 week ago
Amazing, this was totally cutting edge 1974. I have to say it does sound like something Kraftwerk would produce and I'm surprised they never used it! :0)
wavecreatures 2 weeks ago
sounds like alpha sound-)))
kseniyasqo 2 months ago
great. you did very well. but in the end is missing half a bit. the last zero is not completely. you have to add some seconds of Silence in the end.
Fedaykin1Sieben 3 months ago
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pssst... pulsars are where the supposedly complicated ET messages are hidden in the pulse drifting/quantization/phase memory, pulse nulling, mode switching/memory observed in their broadband synchrotron beams...
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AlienshateU 4 months ago
/watch?v=akJofG8z09A
marsgodofficial 4 months ago
sounds like a techno rythm.
Apocalypse562 5 months ago
At the time I am writing this post, the Arecibo Message has traveled the same distance as Arcturus.
skyscraperjim 6 months ago
Streight into M13
lordfabri 6 months ago
This should be a song Called Arecibo's signal
Gaysluuut 8 months ago
How in 1974 could they make a sound like this?
ChristopherJamesE 9 months ago
reminds me ZX Spectrum games.. Hungry Horace and other shiats :d
gorhkole 11 months ago
Cool!
tofusquare 11 months ago
I will remind TheEpisteme that it was, quite coicidentally, first transmitted 36 years ago. Chew on that for a while.
uboostivtec 1 year ago
can't help but get chills listening to this... knowing "someone" else has likely heard it too...
cergeantbeanie 1 year ago
wow, somebody needs to do a remix
Unclesamslair 1 year ago
this beat is dope!
eggfleece 1 year ago
this beat is dope!
eggfleece 1 year ago
Can anyone honestly say, that they wold get anything usefull out of that picture, let alone the binary code???
Why do we belive that aliens has the same way of thiking that we do.
Sure math is universel (1 +1=2anywhere) but would it be logical to asume that not everyboody understands binari code?
kyringe 1 year ago
@kyringe Yes it is logical. It doesn't really get any more logical or basic than binary. On/off, black/white, 1/0, etc. Any civilization capable of advanced mathematics and engineering would be able to recognize a pattern and be able to assemble the image, and any with a strong understanding of physics and chemistry (speed of light, atomic weights etc.), would likely be able to interpret most if not all the info. If they can receive it they'll probably figure it out eventually.
TheEpisteme 1 year ago
@TheEpisteme
Lets say that an alien civilisation can assemble the image, then what.
Understanding physics and chemistry (speed of light, atomic weights etc.) can ibn no way translate the image we see above, if so here si a challenge for you.
Goggle Arecibo message answer and find the mage that is supposed to be the answer and translate it!
kyringe 1 year ago
@kyringe The number of bits in the string is semiprime divisible only by the # of rows and columns. It has the numbers 1-10 at the beginning of the message hopefully as a key to indicate what the following blocks containing atomic numbers of several elements. Given enough intelligent individuals working on it I would think there's a very high probability of them understanding that. Admittedly given higher likelihood if it were life based on nulceotides anywhere remotely similar to DNA.
TheEpisteme 1 year ago
@kyringe I can't tell you what the hoax response crop circle said without cheating because I've already seen youtube videos about it. Its almost the same exact message only they replaced carbon with silicon which wouldn't be compatible with the nucleotides that they left the same. In any case it was never meant to be received and was just a publicity maneuver for the telescope. The stars they sent it to will not be in the same position by the time it gets there in 25,000 years.
TheEpisteme 1 year ago
@TheEpisteme
I must addmit I thought it was supposed to be recived by some alien race!
kyringe 1 year ago
@TheEpisteme Regardless of whether or not it was meant to be received; it was.
KeoTheGuilmon 1 year ago
@KeoTheGuilmon No it wasn't. It's only about 35 light years away now and there is nothing in the direction that it was transmitted for well over another 25,000 light years. We won't hear a response for more than another 80,000 years. If aliens have received it they were already here. Which would seem less likely than randomly guessing the combination to a bank vault by several orders of magnitude. Why would they just happen upon earth with 400 billion other stars in the galaxy?
TheEpisteme 1 year ago
@TheEpisteme Just because it hasn't reached the surface of a planet or star yet, doesn't mean it hasn't already been examined by extraterrestrials. I think it's obvious that aliens were here long before that message was created and sent into space.
KeoTheGuilmon 1 year ago
@KeoTheGuilmon Like I said they would have to be here already, and I disagree that that's obvious seeing as there isn't a single shred of empirical evidence to support that claim other than anecdotal testimony. Not to mention the extremely remote statistical probability that they would visit us without having detected any transmissions. Out of the hundreds of billions of other stars in the galaxy what would bring them to ours without them detecting us?
TheEpisteme 1 year ago
@TheEpisteme
"there is nothing in the direction that it was transmitted for well over another 25,000 light years"
That's where you're wrong.
There are many things in that direction of the sky. Most are probably class M red dwarfs or small K orange dwarf stars.
pashedmotatos 1 year ago
@pashedmotatos Name something then. The transmission signal was a very focused, highly directional beam. It didn't disperse throughout a whole section of the sky. It was aimed at M13 / NGC 6205 in the Hercules constellation. This object is 25,000 light years away and there is nothing in between the path of the signal between it and the earth. Besides it doesn't matter; no intelligent life could have detected it yet without having been hear already as its only traveled 36 light years so far.
TheEpisteme 1 year ago
@TheEpisteme There are various USNO and Tycho cataloged stars in that area.
pashedmotatos 1 year ago
@pashedmotatos So name one then. One that would be obstructed also if you were to hold up a pencil eraser at arms length to obstruct the m13 globular cluster in the sky and is closer to us than m13. Again it still doesn't matter anyway because theres definitely not anything in that extremely specific direction within 36 light years, so nothing has received it.
TheEpisteme 1 year ago
@TheEpisteme Not unless these extraterrestrials had been here for a while.
pashedmotatos 1 year ago
Lawl, fuck you. _|_
shotgunsuicide3 1 year ago
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daftboyrock 1 year ago
Wake me up when september 27010 A.D. ends
funfdogg 1 year ago
jajaja! no saben nada es un codigo vinario igual que un par de notas...... los comentarios de abajo jAJAJAJA! saludos de mexico!!!!
dex3a 2 years ago
super mario lol!
btw golucky ops u talk to musch shhh
empv2 2 years ago
They sent to my university - USM & nobody knows.
MachinePRISM 2 years ago 3
it has some sense of rythm... XD i like to hear it
elpergola 2 years ago 17
i want to use this in a song.
kiplinggorilla 2 years ago 22
i guess the G note (the main note) is caused by the 0's and the C note (the other note) is caused by 1's. this is how our synthesizers work, rite? electric signals being converted into sound. pretty cool. i actually expected something different but this should be in the radiotelescope's music album. i wish carl sagan put that in his tv show cosmos
MrAgentx240 1 year ago
@kiplinggorilla lol it was a year after you said this
seanodrisco11 6 months ago
advanced evil aliens could take over. They will eat your dead babies as you sleep haha.. But yes ElChristo, a single ruler is much more likely to be corrupt than many individual countries, states, branches of government, planets etc. Keeping checks and balances.
GoLuckyOops 2 years ago
All beings deserve the right to self rule. Countries/Civilizations hold different morals, values, ways of life etc. The question is if we all can rise above self interest, and do what is right. Are we merely slaves to our emotions, to self interests? Or do we have purpose, reason, etc. I hope we can rise above self interest.
GoLuckyOops 2 years ago
ElChristo good point, evil aliens could still succeed subjecting some to immorality, benefiting at expense of others. I argue it is not the best way for an individual or the whole. When there are many countries, working together, cross checking, competing, everyone wins. "workers" "rulers" etc should be placed based on ability, most intelligent should be engineers, etc. Everyone should have a shot at success, to work hard. imposing slavery or immorality it will spread, evil spreads just as good
GoLuckyOops 2 years ago
We have discovered more in the last 100 years than the previous 2,000! This is from working together. Collaboration, teamwork, competition keeping prices low, quality up. Those that best meet the needs of their fellow man are rewarded with success, those that don't are punished with failure. An entrepreneur risks everything he has to start a business. But freedom, respect, benevolence spreads and works. We can overcome our instincts, rise above selfish interests. When we good, in end we all win
GoLuckyOops 2 years ago
If you're evil like us, you probably won't survive haha. On an individual scale, a person has to take advantage of the system, in total the species is less better off when an individual benefits that way. We are but a speck of dust, everything we know a tiny blue green speck. If we can't for the most part work together and achieve, we will never make it. Science relies on freedom of information, we would never get so far if we didn't stand on the shoulders of previous scientists, work together
GoLuckyOops 2 years ago
We need not worry much about evil aliens hearing this any time soon. When you look at the stars you see the past, long before we existed. Even at the speed of light, it takes seconds to reach a planet near us, minutes to reach the sun, and MILLIONS of years for light to reach near stars etc. By the time the signal reaches them and if they are smart enough to detect it, earth and the sun will be long dead, and we will either be much more advanced or dead. But I'm more concerned we're bad haha
GoLuckyOops 2 years ago
Millions of years? I'd say those stars are comparatively distant. A broadcast could reach a nearby star in decades or years (X 2 for the minimum time we'd have to wait for a reply). I think it would probably need to be aimed off-set to compensate for the star's motion, or else it will miss (however, I may have a poor understanding of radio-wave propagation).
question444 2 years ago
@question444 you have it right. just figure out where M13 will be 25,000 years from now, send it again, and wait 50,000 years for a reply =\
Miredninja 2 years ago
@question444 it was aimed at a cluster of stars 25000 light years away. By the time the message reaches them the stars won't be there as they will have moved elsewhere due to the rotation of the galaxy (the Milky Way)
Unclesamslair 1 year ago
thats a pure bangin tune! When is the album coming out?
ElChristo 2 years ago
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xxbarelyhumanxx 2 years ago
How would Aliens if exist.. share the same atomic numbers as we do? Or use numbers at all.
dr34m 2 years ago
it sounds retarded, like we are really simple, if theres aliens out there looking for an easy kill, were do you think theyre gonna find it?
LeanCuts 2 years ago
if their that advanced and can come here to kill us. theyre not gonna do it. if your that intelligent, war is silly. their not space bullies lookin for some headshots
xxbarelyhumanxx 2 years ago 3
They probably wont be like the civilizations you see on TV. It will probably be like us. All they need is 1 person to invent it, then everyone will have one. Like cars. Any murderer can buy a car, and drive to a victims home
ElChristo 2 years ago
if they can invent one vehicle that can travel lightyears hella quickly. and are in a civilization like ours. not everyone can get one. and only a few can drive one.
if its that easy to make and use these, theyre most likely much smarter than us and arent as barbaric and shit
xxbarelyhumanxx 2 years ago
Why wouldn't they? Look at Al Qieda, they are dirt poor, yet they still managed to take over some flights and crash them into buildings
ElChristo 2 years ago
lmao very little comparison. i mean if i needed to i could fly a plane. but our closest star is 25,000 LIGHT years away. so this craft would have to skip through time if it were to get here in a reasonable amount of time, and if a civilisation loke OURS could make this awesoms machine. theyd keep that shit on the downlow. and if this craft were just the latest tech, theyd be too intelligent to even consider taking over or destroyin this almost dead planet
xxbarelyhumanxx 2 years ago
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RightTriggered 2 years ago
Why would they keep it on the downlow? We've allready started commercially putting people in spcace.
Also, its hardly an 'almost dead planet'. If anything, its going through another ice age that man has survived through before.
What about the billions of people living on earth? We could easily be enslaved by a superior race.
ElChristo 2 years ago
i dont mean on the downlow i mean we'd keep it safe. and it'd be impossible to hijack. but what im saying is slavery is retarded. especially when your that damn intelligent. what would the purpose be? it would be SO easy to do. but i dunno i cant really explain it. im sure you dont really think its likely at all that any extra terrestrial people actually would come here and do such a thing. they could. but they wont
xxbarelyhumanxx 2 years ago
Like I said before, the whole population doesnt have to be intelligent to get far.
When the spanish or whoever went to africa, they enslaved its people. They were more 'intellegent'...they done it, whats stopping aliens from doing it to us?
ElChristo 2 years ago
BECAUSE THEYRE FUCKING SMARTER MAN I HAVE NO OTHER WAY OF EXPLAINING IT. the spainish? not smart people hundreds of years ago that was a horrible comparison. were not the smartest people now. but when a planet discoveres some of our verses' greatest mysteries like how to fucking fold the fabric of space and skip through wormholes and shit. their not going to do somehting as barbaric as slavery or a take over. its like if us americans were murdering and cannibalising our neigbors CONSTANTLY!
xxbarelyhumanxx 2 years ago
Like i've repeatedly said...Just because their smarter...doesnt mean they wont kill/enslave us...
'Its like if us americans were murdering and cannibalising our neighbours'
Iraq? You wanted oil, you went and took it... Aliens want slaves/food/fuel? Here we are?
and by slaves/food/fuel, I mean us, Humans for all of them
ElChristo 2 years ago
lmao your retarded. im done
xxbarelyhumanxx 2 years ago
Aye right ok, you're the one not willing to accept that there could be evil aliens out there.
ElChristo 2 years ago
a lot of us are evil aliens. but evil aliens to us that can take us over no. later
xxbarelyhumanxx 2 years ago
Haha, if they're advanced enough to get here, im sure they could wipe us out easily
ElChristo 2 years ago
lol yes of course they could. but im convinced they wouldnt
xxbarelyhumanxx 2 years ago
There was a response in a crop circle!
destawsom 2 years ago
In this code, it describes everything from our average height, the periodic table, and the position of our solar system. And even more.
SnappleDK 3 years ago 2
It's saying,
"We are from Earth- home of this horrible music!"
sp4c3m0nk3ygl33k 3 years ago
Is this what someone recieving the signal would have actually heard or is this a musical interpretation? This was obvio9usly made with a synth, but would a listener to the actual message have heard this 'violin' type sound or more like beeping? Either way, it is cool, as I have always wanted to know what it sounded like.
Pdasilva0324 3 years ago
there are 2 different notes in this sequence visually represented by the binary numbers 1 and 0. The black dots = 0 , the colored dots = 1. Search for "arecibo message" with google and open the wikipedia page.....you'll see what I mean on the bottom of the page
hardvibes 2 years ago
It's music in to my ears.
levo75 3 years ago
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CROPSHIRTdotCOM 3 years ago
so the arecibo reply is fake, good to know
hardvibes 2 years ago
I followed that most of the way through on the graphic. Does that make me a geek?
BlackmoonUK 3 years ago
yes.
LeanCuts 2 years ago
Needs a thumping bass though
blobrana 3 years ago 3
Cool
blobrana 3 years ago