@SavageBloodLine ATTENTION ALL: This guy worships satan and never says anything positive, good or uplifting... he spends all his time looking up Tongan posts and trying to cut us down...mark my words...remember its name "savagebloodline"...nothing but bitterness and hate comes out his mouth...
Wow i dont speak Samoan and i cant understand most of it but still being Polynesian isnt about your words no its determined by your actions. I was born in Houston not Samoa(Although it would be much better) but hey im still Poly
who gives a shit about the haka u maori people acting like u got room to talk shut that ass yall at the bottom of the food chain samoa and tonga runnin this polynesian shit so shut it
Whatever the explanation, I ain't buying it, because the haka is totally irrelevant- because it is a Maori thing. This is video mentions Tongans & Samoans and focuses mainly on a Tongan player who made bad choices, yet they would insult roots-conscious Samoans (& Tongans) like me by including the haka as a part of it. There is nothing wrong with the haka; I like it. But it is unique to Maoris. You all should quit lying to young Polys in Western countries and others about the haka. I'ts Maori.
@theephraimite First off Maori were once in the Polynesian island before they hit New zealand. Maori people have the same dna as Tongans and Samoans. Various Polynesian cultures all had a war dance before they went into battle, not just the Maoris. Polynesian for life ignorant troll
@TrueGreatness73 First off, b4 u call someone an ignorant troll, make sure u got your facts straight so u don't end up talking about yourself. The haka is not necessarily a war dance; it is also used for other ceremonial purposes not related to war. Second, Maoris traditions say they came from the Rarotonga. In Samoa, the war dance is called siva tau, which literally means war dance. I was born and raised in Samoa, & we don't do the haka nor do we claim it as ours.
@theraimite Assume much? The Haka is a war dance. Did I ever say it wasnt a ceremonial as well you assuming troll? Only idiots assume. I never said haka wasnt used at ceremonies. Maoris have tons of stories about being from hawaiki not Rarotonga idiot. I have tons of Maori, Tongan and Samoan family. I am Polynesian you dumb troll. Samoa has their own dance and its not called the hake of course. Whats your point? All Polynesians have ancient spiritual dances. Maoris call theirs haka. idiot troll
@TrueGreatness73 Assumption is not the problem; look back at your comment u said "war dances before going to war." Lack of info on your part is the problem. "Assume much"? You're talking crap, and now u don't know my point. It seems you've been assuming, and now u realize u don't know what my point is, you hypocrite. And b4 u call someone a dumb troll, make sure u r not one by not doing what I'm doing - which means: quit responding. We r all polynesians, but each is unique.
@theephraimite My comment was that this was done before wars. How did you make it more then that? By assuming. Hypocrite? Do you even know the definitions of the words your saying? All Polynesians have a spiritual war dance thats also performed at ceremonies. The Maoris just call their dance the Haka. Tongans call theirs the SIpi Tau, ect. Smh
@TrueGreatness73 "Do you even know the definitions of the words your saying"? Do you think you're the only one that can speak English? Are the words new to you that had to ask about them? Look at how inconsistent your comments are. You said you know it was more than a war dance, and now u are saying again this was done b4 wars. Of course, the haka is Maori, and that is why it should be clear that it has nothing to do with Samoa, Tonga, etc., because all cultures are unique.
@theephimite Your a complete idiot. You said Maoris claim they are from Raratonga which is false. They claim they came from hawaiki. Thats why I call you an idiot. Know your saying that I am inconsistent because I said Maoris did this before war? Lmao.. They did do this before wars you dumb shit! Just because I said they did this before wars doesnt mean I said it wasnt also done at ceremonies. Your assuming things I never said you ignorant troll. Your not even Polynesian so fuck off phaggot. lol
@TrueGreatness73 I know da Maori tradition that says they came from Hawaiki; it also says they came from Rarotonga; which suggests they came from Hawaiki, then settled Rarotonga b4 making it to Aotearoa. So, b4 u call someone an idiot, make sure u do a research so that u don't end up looking like one. U keep saying I'm assuming things, but u r assuming that my facts r false without researching da matter. U said they came from Tonga & Samoa. Now u r saying they came from Hawaiki. Which is it?
@theephraimite WTF are you talking about idiot. Maoris said they came from Hawaiki end of story. Dont try to say they went to Rarotonga the to New Zealand idiot. Your a fake. You said you were born in Samoa yet on your profile you say that you were born in San Diego.. LMAO.. What a lying phaggot. It doesnt really matter where Maoris came from anyways because all Polynesians are related because they have the same DNA makeup. Now quit acting like your Polynesian phaggot. Your from san diego! lmao
@TrueGreatness73 Why don't u tell that to the Maoris. I met many Maoris who say they also come from Rarotonga. Hence, if u look at their culture & language, there is a striking similarity btw Maori & Rarotongan. Instead of being dumb, why don't u research it? How can u be right when you've contradicted yourself. First, it was Samoa & Tonga, now it's Hawaiki. Lastly anyone can put anything on a profile that is not true. 'Aua la'ia e te fiapoto leaga e te le iloa se mea. Osovale 'ae le sa'ili.
@theephraimite You idiot all Polynesians are related thats why they all have similar language and cultures.. Samoan, Tongan, Maori, Rarotonga, Rapa Nui, cook island, Marqueses. are all Polynesian. Of course they all look alike, because they are related you dumb shit.. Your a fucking idiot. And quit pretending you were born in Samoa because on your profile you say your born in San Diego you lying phaggot. Polynesian pride for life. Maori folks, Raratonga, Samoan and Tongans are my family. idiot
@TrueGreatness73 Regardless of my profile, it doesn't negate da fact that I grew up in Samoa. I moved to Samoa a few days short of my 5th birthday. I've been heavily influenced by the fa'aSamoa & I speak Samoan, so many think I was born in Samoa. I say I was born in Samoa because I speak Samoan & know the culture well, it is as if I was born in Samoa. So don't call me fake bcause u probably don't speak Samoan. All Polynesians r related but Rarotongans & Maoris r most similar to each other.
@thraimite LMAO.. So your saying that you were born there because you were raised there? Idiot that doesnt make you born there. How fucking retarded is that. You were born in San Diego and learned Samoan. That doesnt make you born there. Second of all Tonga and Samoa is closer to Rarotonga then it is to New Zealand. Third of all all 100% Polynesians are related. Dont give me this bs about which Polynesians are closer dumb shit. I have done the research. Now a days many are mixed. They dont count
@TrueGreatness7 I say it because most of the time, I think & act like a Samoan that it is like I was born in Samoa.Secondly, it saves time to just say I was born in Samoa because most people don't understand why I act so Samoan if I was born in SD. Besides, I speak Samoan fluently, you don't. Samoa & Tonga may be closer to Rarotonga geographically, but Rarotonga is closer to Maori linguistically & culturally. Of course, I know all Polynesians r realated. I made everything clear but u r dumb.
@theephraimite Your fucking retarded dude. Make no sense at all.. On top of that you read the idiot bible.. I am done arguing with you troll. You werent born in Samoa liar. You lie for convenience what an idiot. Im done with you
@TrueGreatness73 I just explained myself clearly in simple language, and yet u don't get it. That just shows that u r so dumb. And you are to dumb to see that you've been acting like a troll too. Unlike you I can speak Samoan, you fake Samoan. Eat this: 'Aivalea, matua e finau vale tele, 'ae mataga e te le iloa se mea. E sa'o ai le tala a le isi tamaloa: "Fa'apea e iloa e le vale lana mea o fai". Alu la'ia e su'e se mea e fa'atu ai lou ulu; e te le iloa se mea. SO EAT THAT YOU FAKE SAMOAN.
I have a question because ive seen the 60 minutes special on samoans in the NFL and how a samoan kid is 56 times more then likely to make it in the nfl then any other race...now whats the stat with a tongan kid ? Because 60 minutes based the number on Ratio for samoans ..I guess i just want to know that this documentary is based on its own findings and not borrowing facts from other news articles like 60 minutes who specifically based their finding on samoan athletes who have made the NFL!
@pago684 see comment on "in football we trust" and after doing our own research, it was 60mins who put all Polynesians together, and stated it as just Samoans for simplification of their news piece. Stats are very difficult with Polynesians, since we are dealing with Half Polys, full, etc...However, it serves as very positive for both cultures creating opportunity int he NFL. Thank you for noting this, because I completely agree.
@Questionyoursource hey bro..no worries this simple inquiry can be misconstrued by many as a different type of conversation and therefore bring more negative conversations which shouldnt go there. So im going to nip it in a bun and again say that I commend you on your piece and support you in your documentary and look forward to seeing it once its complete. Hope all is well and God Bless!
@pago684 Don't worry the ratio is alot higher for Tongans, since they started playing the sport later in life and also since there are few of them here in the states compared to Samoans, Samoans have been coming to the states since the early 60's Tongans barely started coming in the late 70's early 80's, Tongans by far will automatically have a larger ratio as compared to their Samoan counterpart/brothers. Tongans have dominated the Rugby world, worldwide as the Samoans played 2nd!
@SuperSkivi Great observation, and yes, we our selves considered the why factor on using the haka chant. We decided it was relevant because the haka has crossed over into football and other Polynesian cultures. Originally, this film was called cuture clash, in which this was another example of cultures embracing each other and in other senses "clashing." Although, we used it in this short trailer, the feature length movie will be very different. Since this trailer, a lot has changed.
It is no longer called "Culture Clash: Raised to Play Football" We have officially titled the movie "In Football We Trust." Thank you for tuning in, and we will be sure to update you with the latest trailer as soon as it is complete. Also, stay tuned on twitter and facebook for updates and the completion of the film. Thanks again for the feedback.
Asi Mohe is another all star from West High Class of 94'... Its not bad to train our sons to play football. Just think where we would be if there were no sports for us. Haloti Ngata for the Ravens his whole family are in gangs, obviously Haloti never followed their footsteps and look where he's at now...
SacTownUso.....U funny...as I go on the different Tongan vidoes besides this one, I notice that U have NOTHING BUT NEGATIVE things to say to say about Tonga... Are U Christian or did your parents raise you to be a Hater?...U honestly suffer from a severe inferiority complex...A person who is comfortable and confident with who they are and what their people represent spends time uplifting others, not wasting time cutting them down...Bro, please go pray and ask for more Charity to be in ur heart
this is good that someone tells Joes story because man though its a tragedy that he never made it but still He was so talented I used to watch him in highschool.
@sokaleti39- Yes, it was tragic story, and in his case, very extreme. Which is why we picked his story. Thank you for supporting, and we will keep you posted on our film as it develops. Thanks again.
@ETJLMET, I'm not saying F*** education. I meant that Samoans have found ways out with other things besides football. Things such as MMA, WWE, Acting, Music, Rugby, Dance, Education, Directing, Producing, Coaching etc.... etc....
Also, education is not such a bad thing, maybe you should take heed to your own advice.
ETJLMET, You're making yourself look hella stupid man. I won't even lump you with Tongans because I KNOW, Tongans are smarter than the shit you just typed. Haha. Log off your computer and go sleep already.
To all the Tongans and Samoans in the struggle, keep fighting through the negativity. We are but a small group coming from a fly size dot on the map. Yet, we continue to do great things.
@ETJLMET many Tongans have Samoan blood running through there veins even the Royal Lines of Tui Tonga, Tui Haatakalaua and Tui Kanokupolu are all half Samoan half Tongan Lines.
@SacTownUso ma brother..i hate to fight..but the truth is that all samoans have tongan in them...i mean i dont want to sound harsh but we were in samoa for about 3 to 5 generations...in western and america samoa juss making kids lol..thats why we hate each other...its because we are brothers and sister(you know what i mean) i mean cmon...brothers fight all the time..sisters fight all the time...but the truth is we didnt juss take wives from samoa..we took wives from everywhere because we could.
@djskott are you sure? Anciently Tonga was apart of SAMOA ruled by Tui Manu'a notice how Tonga has so many SAMOAN CUSTOMS as well as DANCES even the ROYAL FAMILY have SAMOAN BLOOD even there ROYAL LANGUAGE is SAMOAN. As for Wives my brother many Samoan Chiefs married Tui Tonga's Daughters as well. There are even islands today in Tonga that have SAMOAN MIXED in there language such as NIUA, UVEA, TAFAHI etc.....
@ETJLMET Tongans were the first in the WORLD? As for Samoans coming from Tonga I have to disagree with you on that one as well the name TONGA means South in various Polynesian Languages because the original inhabitants came from Samoa meaning Samoans traveled South from Samoa and settled Tonga.
@ETJLMET Samoans had to prove themselves the most because barely anyone in the NFL or in the USA knew what a Polynesian was or a Samoan at that. Years go by more Samoans become stars in the NFL making a name and paving the way for all Polynesians. Being that Samoans set the tone in the NFL for Polynesians many people now know exactly who Polynesians are and wat our people are mad of but dont leave out that it is the SAMOANS who set and paved the WAY.
SamoanFromLA- One last note, is that we just ask that as you share, that you take into consideration both cultures as a whole, and their the offense they may take on comments. We weren't sure whether to take comments off, but, we did, because we didn't want the focus of our film to cause any confrontation from a very small piece of it's production. Again, we respect your views, and have discussed them, but, we would like to take the positive out of your comments, while others are unable to.
@Questionyoursource what many dont seem to understand is that if it wasnt for SAMOANS it would not be easy for Tongans to gain success easily in the NFL. The reason I say this is because when Samoans first entered the NFL no one knew the strength and athleticism our Polynesian people posses it took Samoans years of success in the NFL to finally make a name for all Polynesians and pave the way now many coaches in the NFL want Polynesian Players because of the success of the SAMOANS in the NFL.
@SacTownUso, You are absolutely right, and that will be addressed by the Samoans in this documentary. Once again, the point of our film isn't to discredit any culture, it is simply to give credit in every way to the cultures of the characters that we are filming. If it needs to be said to overcome this "debate," it is true, we are not denying the movement of Samoans in the league paving the way for other Polynesians. But, it is not our main point of this doc, this doc is about our subjects.
@SacTownUso ...Bruh, I congratulate my Samoan Bro's 4 their accomplishments, but dont get it twisted, Tongans dont owe U nothing! If anyone, ALL OF US should thank America for the opportunities of playing this sport. Tongans don't even play football in Tonga.Most Tongans are 1st generation Americans...Samoans have always had better access to this sport because of America's influence in Samoa.knowing Tongans hardly played this sport and now U asking people to give you credit? betta ask sumbody!
@LeSiPeKi03 dont give me credit give the 1st Polynesians in the NFL credit because they were the first to pave the way like Al lolotai, Charles Ane etc these dudes played football when people had no idea what Polynesians were and when whites dominated the NFL etc..... Lesipeki03 whats your excuse for rugby?
@SacTownUso bruh...exactly...since America colonized yall, yall have been playing the sport since the 1950's and 60's... if you wanna get deep into it...take the total pop. of both islands in the islands and in America..and tell me who produces more professional athletes per capita...in Football and rugby...how does the NFL as a league knowing more about Polynesia, make it easier on someone like Haloti Ngata to make it to the NFL? Did Al and Charles mentor him or train him during off season?...
@LeSiPeKi03 My brother only half of Samoa is American Territory the other half SAMOA is a independent country just like Tonga and just to let you know Al lolotai was born in Western Samoa which equals Green Card my brother. My brother Population can only go so far against pure TALENT. Name a Tongan Boxer who achieved more then David Tua? Name a Tongan Team that has won 3 back to back WORLD SEVENS SERIES games? Name MMA Fighter who became Champs? Talent is the key not Population.
@SacTownUso...bro, TALENT is exactly what we're discussing!im trying 2 explain to you in simple terms.look up the total population of Samoa & Tonga & U will notice that there R 3Xmore Samoans than Tongans.If U take into account the amount that each island produces, "per capita", Tonga produces more NFL players than Samoa.NFL is the talent we're talking about.Bro,U still havent answered my first question.how have people like Al&Charles made it easier 4 Tongans like Haloti to make it 2 da NFL??
@SacTownUso Anyways Uce...before you come on here and open your mouth, maybe instead of wasting our time tearing down what people are trying to produce, you should be productive and make your own movie...include your thoughts and perspectives, interview who you choose to interview...get up and do somethin, be about it patnah...MUCH LOVE TO ALL MY POLYNESIAN FOLKERS!...lets work together to weed out little weenies like sactownuso...U aint no uso, U a ki'o fereal...OFAS & ALOFAS!!!!
@SacTownUso well I'm both Tongan and Samoan but i believe it first started with the Hawaiians as first Polynesians in the NFL then the Samoan and Tongans. If it weren't for the Hawaiians...
@TVpati there were many Hawaiian athletes that was amongst the first such as Thomas Kaulukukui who was a professional baseball (played with Babe Ruth) and football payer. Around his time...i don't think people knew what Tongans or Samoans were?
SamonFromLA- We realize that you were just sharing your opinions, and can agree on many of the points that you were making. However, it was causing tension among others that could possibly lead into a negative confrontation. We respect your views, but, others may not understand. The saying: it's never a problem until it's a problem, is what we decided to abide by and take head to. We would just like to keep the peace, and move forward with a positive outlook. Thanks again for your feedback.
Supersmasher99- Now there is a great suggestion, we began both cultural interviews with Vai, and Junior Seau, because of my personal age, and you're absolutely right. In fact, that post will be sent to producers, I have been so busy with all the interviews, and so many have been suggested since. So, I appreciate, and thank you for making a very important recommendation for an interview. Thanks for your support, and feedback. We will do our best to include that interview. Thanks again.
Good story bro but I hope this video addresses the 1st ever Polynesian/Samoan who paved the way in the NFL his name was Al Lolotai from Western Samoa who was the first Player of Polynesian Descent to make it to the NFL he was drafted to the Redskins in 1945.
To all USERS: Please take no offense to the comments that are being removed. We are not opposed to free speech, and difference in opinions. However, we see this film as being very positive for both cultures involved, and all cultures in general. Our vision is so much more than this 4min peak, and we don't want to get away from the point of it all. Posts will be considered, but not all kept on the thread. We do appreciate all your support, and we could not do it with out ALL of your support.
rancidglass- That is large part of our thesis, in fact, in many of our interviews including Anton Palepoi, and Haloti Ngata. They both talk about whether or not they would want their children to play because of the wear and tear on their bodies. However, it has been a great way for opportunity. Anton- speaks about life after, and it is such a powerful interview on the aftermath of the NFL. Reno Mahe told us that he is a firm believer in Polynesians in Baseball. So it is a great point. Thanx
Being polynesian myself, I wonder if were grooming our young men to play only football and use the nfl as a way "out". It's concerning to see that so many young polynesian men aspire to play a sport that takes such a lasting toll on the body and mind and yet the average nfl player only makes 700k a year compared to baseball and basketball players that average above 3 million and have longer pro careers.
ETJLMET, Yeah, it's funny how you shoot off now saying Tongans have made a bigger impact and in a shorter amount of time than Samoans. You better thank the next Samoan for that. And something else which is a BIG reason for the Tongan success is the fact that the internet has made things MUCH easier for you all do get things done. When Samoans came up, they did it without the luxury of the internet. They did it alone, as a proud people lifting each other up, along with you Tongans.
ETJMET/SamoanFromLA- Your comments are appreciated, and show the pride one has in both cultures. That is why we feel it is so important to share these stories. However, this story is so much bigger than ONE culture from another. It is an American Story, about opportunity, opposition, success, failure, history, and most of all LOVE between our cultures and America. It will be to educate, inform, and inspire all cultures, especially the one's that it is being told through. Thanks again.
SamoanFromLA- We appreciate all feedback, and understand your concerns, however, with only a small peak at what we have in store for you, we are confident that you will not be disappointed with this film. Stats are numbers that will be defined more thoroughly in the finished piece. However, the stories of these characters will speak loudly for themselves. Thanks again for your feedback. We would love your support, but, understand the differences in opinion. Thanks again.
SamoanFromLA- ...once the film is completed. We are making this from the inside out to not only "up" the cultures, but inform, and educate all cultures including our own. We want to create opportunities for all to learn more, and grow together, as well as understand our histories. Again, we apologize for the 4min clip, as it is just a sneak peak, and the film has so much more to come. We hope for your support, if not now, when we get further down the line. We will post updates.
SamoanFromLA- Your comments are many of the reasons for this documentary. We agree, Samoans have been doing this for much longer, and we don't believe TV pieces like 60 minutes are doing your stories justice. You are right, Palagi's will tell only the surface of a story. Which is why we wanted to dig deeper into the cultures. This will be a documentary told through both cultures, it's people and the characters. This is for awareness of both cultures. We hope you will understand our vision.
The TEN Tongans in the league last year: Taitusi Lutui, Haloti ngata, Maake Kemoeatu, Chris Kemoeatu, Fili Moala, Naufahu Tahi, Sione Pou'ha, Fenuki Tupou, David Veikune, Marcus Mailei
WarriorBK- again, we understand your concerns, in which we will address in this documentary. Tongans do have their own stats on a smaller scale, so, they will be different, however, have been very close thus far. We distinguished the 31 in the league with a very credible source, realizing that there are 20 Samoans, and 11 Tongans on rosters in the NFL. Thank you for bringing that up though, because it is only fair to credit those that are due. But, hard with only a 4min piece, thanks again.
WarriorBK- None taken, in fact, you have a valid point. Due to time & the difficulty of separating Tongans, Samoans, Hawaiians, half Polynesians etc. We stated stats from 60 Min. However, Vai is a Philadelphia News Broadcaster, and received those stats the day before we interviewed him. Coming to find out that it was 60 minutes who lumped us together. I apologize for the confusion, and if we offended you. But, we will have the hard numbers on the full length feature. Much luv to Samoans.
No offense but there are 200+ SAMOANS alone playing College Football. SAMOANS are 56% more likely to make it to the NFL. My brother why is this video taking credit for the ACHIEVEMENTS of SAMOANS alone and adding TONGANS along with it? It is a proven fact that SAMOANS are 56% more likely to make it to the NFL as well as 200+ Samoans playing College Football. What is the Tongan percentage of NFL players as well as College? This video is taking credit for the achievements of SAMOANS alone.
Thank you to all supporters, and I am proud to give you this film about a classic story of Cultures Clashing. As a filmmaker, this is only the beginning and you will see much more in not only documentaries, but the stories written and adapted to feature films. Thanks again.
so excited to see the finished product AND I luv seeing more Polynesians behind the camera and producing/directing! I wish u the best, can't wait to see more work!!
cant wait for this video to come out. As a father of 3 children and aspiring athletes, I think this woiuld be very inspirational to me and especially for them. Thank you very much for this video and keep us all posted.
N2E34- hey it's funny that you say that about knocking out Jose, we had a 2hr interview with Vai, in which you are only seeing the tip of the iceberg. Vai speaks openly about so many topics, and is well spoken, and very credible ( due to his position in Philadelphia broadcasting) to statistics, and information. Many of our other interviews have not been as informative, but of course contirbuted to the complete story of every aspect of these cultures. Thanks again for your reply, and support.
Jodatoa05- thank you so much for your feedback, and it's funny you bring up all the important aspects of athletes and the successes and failures in football, and education. This film will cover it all, like I said, it will be the first type of doc of its kind. It is simply about adapting to American culture, success, education, failure, faith, family, and love. We have put a lot of though into the story, and it is a project that is very close to home for me. I love the stats....thank you.
Again I love what you guy's are putting together in this documentary. I think it will have a vast impact on our Polynesian community around the nation, as well as the Football community as a whole. I believe the Polynesian community are on the threshold of something big here with Football, and I can't wait to see what will happen in over the next coming years, let alone the next decade or so. The opportunities are there, its up to us to take it.
I also liked to note that if you included Poly's in all respectful levels of Collegiate Football: Div I, Div I-AA, Div II, Div III, you would find that there are a lot more Poly's playing the game, I would say well over 350+ but I have yet to find the exact number, because there are just too many colleges to follow and players tend to transfer out of lower level schools, esp JCs. With all these colleges there should be an opportunity somewhere for players to get an education through football.
Vai stated that there are currently 31 poly's currently playing in the NFL. As of 2000 to 2009 I noted that about 100+ poly's played for NFL teams, including former and current players. This includes players on active rosters, as well as players that were on practice squads. Players that were also drafted in the NFL draft as well as players that were signed as free agents. Some players were cut and didn't make the team final rosters, but had the opportunity to. Also, the AFL had a good #of polys
There is nothing wrong with setting the NFL as your goal in life, but getting that education and that college degree should be on equal terms with your NFL goal. I know that pressure is added on these next generation of Poly's playing the game to make it to the next level, but again stress the importance of academics coming first. But its up to the individual player to take that initiative and put just as much effort into their academics as they would Football. Though this is just my opinion...
I agree with sgiles40, Football should be 2nd when it comes to academics and education. In that respects, Football should be looked upon as a gateway or a path in giving players opportunities towards getting a College degree. Parents should stress to their kids the importance of education over the NFL, in that only a handful actually make it to the league, and also the fact that an NFL player's career is relatively short one...
mistanature- thank you, it is worth more than you know, if you could rate this, it is worth even more! We are currently providing numbers for funding and want to prove the fact that it is a story that needs to be told. So thank you very much for your support.
sgiles40- That is our thesis exactly, and we will not take away from that option of success, simply because we do have a natural talent in that area. However, it should not be our only option. Your feedback is spot on, thank you. Much love to all players, and cultures that can relate. Tony (Director)
As a former college football player, I think that too many athletes, in particular polynesians, are short changed on life because of an over emphasis on sports at the expense of other things. This is a powerful message that needs to be told. I can't wait to see the final product.
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I will be putting out the teaser of the Senior Highschool football running back that we will be following for the documentary soon. We will keep you posted with teasers for sure! Thanks for the support!
@SavageBloodLine ATTENTION ALL: This guy worships satan and never says anything positive, good or uplifting... he spends all his time looking up Tongan posts and trying to cut us down...mark my words...remember its name "savagebloodline"...nothing but bitterness and hate comes out his mouth...
LeSiPeKi03 5 months ago
people are waiting to watch! what's taking so long? haha. "polynesian time"?
tamasandy 9 months ago
Can anyone tell me please when this is due to be released
Malo au pito
vaisamiror 9 months ago
Wow i dont speak Samoan and i cant understand most of it but still being Polynesian isnt about your words no its determined by your actions. I was born in Houston not Samoa(Although it would be much better) but hey im still Poly
Samoanreflex 9 months ago
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halafihi23 1 year ago
who gives a shit about the haka u maori people acting like u got room to talk shut that ass yall at the bottom of the food chain samoa and tonga runnin this polynesian shit so shut it
SuperTaliban11 1 year ago
Whatever the explanation, I ain't buying it, because the haka is totally irrelevant- because it is a Maori thing. This is video mentions Tongans & Samoans and focuses mainly on a Tongan player who made bad choices, yet they would insult roots-conscious Samoans (& Tongans) like me by including the haka as a part of it. There is nothing wrong with the haka; I like it. But it is unique to Maoris. You all should quit lying to young Polys in Western countries and others about the haka. I'ts Maori.
theephraimite 1 year ago
@theephraimite First off Maori were once in the Polynesian island before they hit New zealand. Maori people have the same dna as Tongans and Samoans. Various Polynesian cultures all had a war dance before they went into battle, not just the Maoris. Polynesian for life ignorant troll
TrueGreatness73 9 months ago
@TrueGreatness73 First off, b4 u call someone an ignorant troll, make sure u got your facts straight so u don't end up talking about yourself. The haka is not necessarily a war dance; it is also used for other ceremonial purposes not related to war. Second, Maoris traditions say they came from the Rarotonga. In Samoa, the war dance is called siva tau, which literally means war dance. I was born and raised in Samoa, & we don't do the haka nor do we claim it as ours.
theephraimite 9 months ago
@theraimite Assume much? The Haka is a war dance. Did I ever say it wasnt a ceremonial as well you assuming troll? Only idiots assume. I never said haka wasnt used at ceremonies. Maoris have tons of stories about being from hawaiki not Rarotonga idiot. I have tons of Maori, Tongan and Samoan family. I am Polynesian you dumb troll. Samoa has their own dance and its not called the hake of course. Whats your point? All Polynesians have ancient spiritual dances. Maoris call theirs haka. idiot troll
TrueGreatness73 9 months ago
@TrueGreatness73 Assumption is not the problem; look back at your comment u said "war dances before going to war." Lack of info on your part is the problem. "Assume much"? You're talking crap, and now u don't know my point. It seems you've been assuming, and now u realize u don't know what my point is, you hypocrite. And b4 u call someone a dumb troll, make sure u r not one by not doing what I'm doing - which means: quit responding. We r all polynesians, but each is unique.
theephraimite 9 months ago
@theephraimite My comment was that this was done before wars. How did you make it more then that? By assuming. Hypocrite? Do you even know the definitions of the words your saying? All Polynesians have a spiritual war dance thats also performed at ceremonies. The Maoris just call their dance the Haka. Tongans call theirs the SIpi Tau, ect. Smh
TrueGreatness73 9 months ago
@TrueGreatness73 "Do you even know the definitions of the words your saying"? Do you think you're the only one that can speak English? Are the words new to you that had to ask about them? Look at how inconsistent your comments are. You said you know it was more than a war dance, and now u are saying again this was done b4 wars. Of course, the haka is Maori, and that is why it should be clear that it has nothing to do with Samoa, Tonga, etc., because all cultures are unique.
theephraimite 9 months ago
@theephimite Your a complete idiot. You said Maoris claim they are from Raratonga which is false. They claim they came from hawaiki. Thats why I call you an idiot. Know your saying that I am inconsistent because I said Maoris did this before war? Lmao.. They did do this before wars you dumb shit! Just because I said they did this before wars doesnt mean I said it wasnt also done at ceremonies. Your assuming things I never said you ignorant troll. Your not even Polynesian so fuck off phaggot. lol
TrueGreatness73 9 months ago
@TrueGreatness73 I know da Maori tradition that says they came from Hawaiki; it also says they came from Rarotonga; which suggests they came from Hawaiki, then settled Rarotonga b4 making it to Aotearoa. So, b4 u call someone an idiot, make sure u do a research so that u don't end up looking like one. U keep saying I'm assuming things, but u r assuming that my facts r false without researching da matter. U said they came from Tonga & Samoa. Now u r saying they came from Hawaiki. Which is it?
theephraimite 9 months ago
@theephraimite WTF are you talking about idiot. Maoris said they came from Hawaiki end of story. Dont try to say they went to Rarotonga the to New Zealand idiot. Your a fake. You said you were born in Samoa yet on your profile you say that you were born in San Diego.. LMAO.. What a lying phaggot. It doesnt really matter where Maoris came from anyways because all Polynesians are related because they have the same DNA makeup. Now quit acting like your Polynesian phaggot. Your from san diego! lmao
TrueGreatness73 9 months ago
@TrueGreatness73 Why don't u tell that to the Maoris. I met many Maoris who say they also come from Rarotonga. Hence, if u look at their culture & language, there is a striking similarity btw Maori & Rarotongan. Instead of being dumb, why don't u research it? How can u be right when you've contradicted yourself. First, it was Samoa & Tonga, now it's Hawaiki. Lastly anyone can put anything on a profile that is not true. 'Aua la'ia e te fiapoto leaga e te le iloa se mea. Osovale 'ae le sa'ili.
theephraimite 9 months ago
@theephraimite You idiot all Polynesians are related thats why they all have similar language and cultures.. Samoan, Tongan, Maori, Rarotonga, Rapa Nui, cook island, Marqueses. are all Polynesian. Of course they all look alike, because they are related you dumb shit.. Your a fucking idiot. And quit pretending you were born in Samoa because on your profile you say your born in San Diego you lying phaggot. Polynesian pride for life. Maori folks, Raratonga, Samoan and Tongans are my family. idiot
TrueGreatness73 9 months ago
@TrueGreatness73 Regardless of my profile, it doesn't negate da fact that I grew up in Samoa. I moved to Samoa a few days short of my 5th birthday. I've been heavily influenced by the fa'aSamoa & I speak Samoan, so many think I was born in Samoa. I say I was born in Samoa because I speak Samoan & know the culture well, it is as if I was born in Samoa. So don't call me fake bcause u probably don't speak Samoan. All Polynesians r related but Rarotongans & Maoris r most similar to each other.
theephraimite 9 months ago
@thraimite LMAO.. So your saying that you were born there because you were raised there? Idiot that doesnt make you born there. How fucking retarded is that. You were born in San Diego and learned Samoan. That doesnt make you born there. Second of all Tonga and Samoa is closer to Rarotonga then it is to New Zealand. Third of all all 100% Polynesians are related. Dont give me this bs about which Polynesians are closer dumb shit. I have done the research. Now a days many are mixed. They dont count
TrueGreatness73 9 months ago
@TrueGreatness7 I say it because most of the time, I think & act like a Samoan that it is like I was born in Samoa.Secondly, it saves time to just say I was born in Samoa because most people don't understand why I act so Samoan if I was born in SD. Besides, I speak Samoan fluently, you don't. Samoa & Tonga may be closer to Rarotonga geographically, but Rarotonga is closer to Maori linguistically & culturally. Of course, I know all Polynesians r realated. I made everything clear but u r dumb.
theephraimite 9 months ago
@theephraimite Your fucking retarded dude. Make no sense at all.. On top of that you read the idiot bible.. I am done arguing with you troll. You werent born in Samoa liar. You lie for convenience what an idiot. Im done with you
TrueGreatness73 9 months ago
@TrueGreatness73 I just explained myself clearly in simple language, and yet u don't get it. That just shows that u r so dumb. And you are to dumb to see that you've been acting like a troll too. Unlike you I can speak Samoan, you fake Samoan. Eat this: 'Aivalea, matua e finau vale tele, 'ae mataga e te le iloa se mea. E sa'o ai le tala a le isi tamaloa: "Fa'apea e iloa e le vale lana mea o fai". Alu la'ia e su'e se mea e fa'atu ai lou ulu; e te le iloa se mea. SO EAT THAT YOU FAKE SAMOAN.
theephraimite 9 months ago
I have a question because ive seen the 60 minutes special on samoans in the NFL and how a samoan kid is 56 times more then likely to make it in the nfl then any other race...now whats the stat with a tongan kid ? Because 60 minutes based the number on Ratio for samoans ..I guess i just want to know that this documentary is based on its own findings and not borrowing facts from other news articles like 60 minutes who specifically based their finding on samoan athletes who have made the NFL!
pago684 1 year ago
@pago684 see comment on "in football we trust" and after doing our own research, it was 60mins who put all Polynesians together, and stated it as just Samoans for simplification of their news piece. Stats are very difficult with Polynesians, since we are dealing with Half Polys, full, etc...However, it serves as very positive for both cultures creating opportunity int he NFL. Thank you for noting this, because I completely agree.
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
@Questionyoursource hey bro..no worries this simple inquiry can be misconstrued by many as a different type of conversation and therefore bring more negative conversations which shouldnt go there. So im going to nip it in a bun and again say that I commend you on your piece and support you in your documentary and look forward to seeing it once its complete. Hope all is well and God Bless!
pago684 1 year ago
@pago684 Don't worry the ratio is alot higher for Tongans, since they started playing the sport later in life and also since there are few of them here in the states compared to Samoans, Samoans have been coming to the states since the early 60's Tongans barely started coming in the late 70's early 80's, Tongans by far will automatically have a larger ratio as compared to their Samoan counterpart/brothers. Tongans have dominated the Rugby world, worldwide as the Samoans played 2nd!
ETJLMET 8 months ago
Dunno if its already been mentioned but ...why is the Maori haka featured in a video about Samoans and Tongans? Lol.
SuperSkivi 1 year ago
@SuperSkivi Great observation, and yes, we our selves considered the why factor on using the haka chant. We decided it was relevant because the haka has crossed over into football and other Polynesian cultures. Originally, this film was called cuture clash, in which this was another example of cultures embracing each other and in other senses "clashing." Although, we used it in this short trailer, the feature length movie will be very different. Since this trailer, a lot has changed.
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
It is no longer called "Culture Clash: Raised to Play Football" We have officially titled the movie "In Football We Trust." Thank you for tuning in, and we will be sure to update you with the latest trailer as soon as it is complete. Also, stay tuned on twitter and facebook for updates and the completion of the film. Thanks again for the feedback.
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
@SuperSkivi I'd guess it's because it's maori also migrated from the pacific islands, theres also been a few maori to play in the NFL
TzipKing 1 year ago
Asi Mohe is another all star from West High Class of 94'... Its not bad to train our sons to play football. Just think where we would be if there were no sports for us. Haloti Ngata for the Ravens his whole family are in gangs, obviously Haloti never followed their footsteps and look where he's at now...
littleroots 1 year ago
You Dumb Asses this is NOT a Samoan vs Tongan clip...
littleroots 1 year ago
SacTownUso.....U funny...as I go on the different Tongan vidoes besides this one, I notice that U have NOTHING BUT NEGATIVE things to say to say about Tonga... Are U Christian or did your parents raise you to be a Hater?...U honestly suffer from a severe inferiority complex...A person who is comfortable and confident with who they are and what their people represent spends time uplifting others, not wasting time cutting them down...Bro, please go pray and ask for more Charity to be in ur heart
LeSiPeKi03 1 year ago
this is good that someone tells Joes story because man though its a tragedy that he never made it but still He was so talented I used to watch him in highschool.
sokaleti39 1 year ago
@sokaleti39- Yes, it was tragic story, and in his case, very extreme. Which is why we picked his story. Thank you for supporting, and we will keep you posted on our film as it develops. Thanks again.
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
Does anyone remember how much Jerry Jones offered Jonah Lomu to play for the Cowboys?
PoSTMaN650 1 year ago
@ETJLMET, I'm not saying F*** education. I meant that Samoans have found ways out with other things besides football. Things such as MMA, WWE, Acting, Music, Rugby, Dance, Education, Directing, Producing, Coaching etc.... etc....
Also, education is not such a bad thing, maybe you should take heed to your own advice.
SamoanFromLA 1 year ago
LOL@ETJLMET LOL@ETJLMET LOL@ETJLMET !!!
ETJLMET, You're making yourself look hella stupid man. I won't even lump you with Tongans because I KNOW, Tongans are smarter than the shit you just typed. Haha. Log off your computer and go sleep already.
To all the Tongans and Samoans in the struggle, keep fighting through the negativity. We are but a small group coming from a fly size dot on the map. Yet, we continue to do great things.
SamoanFromLA 1 year ago
@ETJLMET many Tongans have Samoan blood running through there veins even the Royal Lines of Tui Tonga, Tui Haatakalaua and Tui Kanokupolu are all half Samoan half Tongan Lines.
SacTownUso 1 year ago
@SacTownUso ma brother..i hate to fight..but the truth is that all samoans have tongan in them...i mean i dont want to sound harsh but we were in samoa for about 3 to 5 generations...in western and america samoa juss making kids lol..thats why we hate each other...its because we are brothers and sister(you know what i mean) i mean cmon...brothers fight all the time..sisters fight all the time...but the truth is we didnt juss take wives from samoa..we took wives from everywhere because we could.
djskott 1 year ago
@djskott are you sure? Anciently Tonga was apart of SAMOA ruled by Tui Manu'a notice how Tonga has so many SAMOAN CUSTOMS as well as DANCES even the ROYAL FAMILY have SAMOAN BLOOD even there ROYAL LANGUAGE is SAMOAN. As for Wives my brother many Samoan Chiefs married Tui Tonga's Daughters as well. There are even islands today in Tonga that have SAMOAN MIXED in there language such as NIUA, UVEA, TAFAHI etc.....
SacTownUso 1 year ago
@SacTownUso You all came from TONGA nuff SAID! I wont go into detail because your not that smart to understand!
ETJLMET 1 year ago
@ETJLMET Tongans were the first in the WORLD? As for Samoans coming from Tonga I have to disagree with you on that one as well the name TONGA means South in various Polynesian Languages because the original inhabitants came from Samoa meaning Samoans traveled South from Samoa and settled Tonga.
SacTownUso 1 year ago
@ETJLMET Samoans had to prove themselves the most because barely anyone in the NFL or in the USA knew what a Polynesian was or a Samoan at that. Years go by more Samoans become stars in the NFL making a name and paving the way for all Polynesians. Being that Samoans set the tone in the NFL for Polynesians many people now know exactly who Polynesians are and wat our people are mad of but dont leave out that it is the SAMOANS who set and paved the WAY.
SacTownUso 1 year ago
SamoanFromLA- One last note, is that we just ask that as you share, that you take into consideration both cultures as a whole, and their the offense they may take on comments. We weren't sure whether to take comments off, but, we did, because we didn't want the focus of our film to cause any confrontation from a very small piece of it's production. Again, we respect your views, and have discussed them, but, we would like to take the positive out of your comments, while others are unable to.
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
@Questionyoursource what many dont seem to understand is that if it wasnt for SAMOANS it would not be easy for Tongans to gain success easily in the NFL. The reason I say this is because when Samoans first entered the NFL no one knew the strength and athleticism our Polynesian people posses it took Samoans years of success in the NFL to finally make a name for all Polynesians and pave the way now many coaches in the NFL want Polynesian Players because of the success of the SAMOANS in the NFL.
SacTownUso 1 year ago
@SacTownUso, You are absolutely right, and that will be addressed by the Samoans in this documentary. Once again, the point of our film isn't to discredit any culture, it is simply to give credit in every way to the cultures of the characters that we are filming. If it needs to be said to overcome this "debate," it is true, we are not denying the movement of Samoans in the league paving the way for other Polynesians. But, it is not our main point of this doc, this doc is about our subjects.
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
@SacTownUso ...Bruh, I congratulate my Samoan Bro's 4 their accomplishments, but dont get it twisted, Tongans dont owe U nothing! If anyone, ALL OF US should thank America for the opportunities of playing this sport. Tongans don't even play football in Tonga.Most Tongans are 1st generation Americans...Samoans have always had better access to this sport because of America's influence in Samoa.knowing Tongans hardly played this sport and now U asking people to give you credit? betta ask sumbody!
LeSiPeKi03 1 year ago
@LeSiPeKi03 dont give me credit give the 1st Polynesians in the NFL credit because they were the first to pave the way like Al lolotai, Charles Ane etc these dudes played football when people had no idea what Polynesians were and when whites dominated the NFL etc..... Lesipeki03 whats your excuse for rugby?
SacTownUso 1 year ago 2
@SacTownUso bruh...exactly...since America colonized yall, yall have been playing the sport since the 1950's and 60's... if you wanna get deep into it...take the total pop. of both islands in the islands and in America..and tell me who produces more professional athletes per capita...in Football and rugby...how does the NFL as a league knowing more about Polynesia, make it easier on someone like Haloti Ngata to make it to the NFL? Did Al and Charles mentor him or train him during off season?...
LeSiPeKi03 1 year ago
@LeSiPeKi03 My brother only half of Samoa is American Territory the other half SAMOA is a independent country just like Tonga and just to let you know Al lolotai was born in Western Samoa which equals Green Card my brother. My brother Population can only go so far against pure TALENT. Name a Tongan Boxer who achieved more then David Tua? Name a Tongan Team that has won 3 back to back WORLD SEVENS SERIES games? Name MMA Fighter who became Champs? Talent is the key not Population.
SacTownUso 1 year ago 4
@SacTownUso...bro, TALENT is exactly what we're discussing!im trying 2 explain to you in simple terms.look up the total population of Samoa & Tonga & U will notice that there R 3Xmore Samoans than Tongans.If U take into account the amount that each island produces, "per capita", Tonga produces more NFL players than Samoa.NFL is the talent we're talking about.Bro,U still havent answered my first question.how have people like Al&Charles made it easier 4 Tongans like Haloti to make it 2 da NFL??
LeSiPeKi03 1 year ago
@SacTownUso Anyways Uce...before you come on here and open your mouth, maybe instead of wasting our time tearing down what people are trying to produce, you should be productive and make your own movie...include your thoughts and perspectives, interview who you choose to interview...get up and do somethin, be about it patnah...MUCH LOVE TO ALL MY POLYNESIAN FOLKERS!...lets work together to weed out little weenies like sactownuso...U aint no uso, U a ki'o fereal...OFAS & ALOFAS!!!!
LeSiPeKi03 1 year ago
@SacTownUso well I'm both Tongan and Samoan but i believe it first started with the Hawaiians as first Polynesians in the NFL then the Samoan and Tongans. If it weren't for the Hawaiians...
BIGKILI808 1 year ago
@BIGKILI808 Al Lolotai if I'm not mistaken was the first minority to play in the Pro's. He has a unique story behind his coming to the pros as well.
TVpati 1 year ago
@TVpati there were many Hawaiian athletes that was amongst the first such as Thomas Kaulukukui who was a professional baseball (played with Babe Ruth) and football payer. Around his time...i don't think people knew what Tongans or Samoans were?
BIGKILI808 1 year ago
@BIGKILI808 I see he was UH's first All-American but there's no report of him playing in the Pros~
TVpati 1 year ago
SamonFromLA- We realize that you were just sharing your opinions, and can agree on many of the points that you were making. However, it was causing tension among others that could possibly lead into a negative confrontation. We respect your views, but, others may not understand. The saying: it's never a problem until it's a problem, is what we decided to abide by and take head to. We would just like to keep the peace, and move forward with a positive outlook. Thanks again for your feedback.
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
Supersmasher99- Now there is a great suggestion, we began both cultural interviews with Vai, and Junior Seau, because of my personal age, and you're absolutely right. In fact, that post will be sent to producers, I have been so busy with all the interviews, and so many have been suggested since. So, I appreciate, and thank you for making a very important recommendation for an interview. Thanks for your support, and feedback. We will do our best to include that interview. Thanks again.
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
Good story bro but I hope this video addresses the 1st ever Polynesian/Samoan who paved the way in the NFL his name was Al Lolotai from Western Samoa who was the first Player of Polynesian Descent to make it to the NFL he was drafted to the Redskins in 1945.
supersmasher99 1 year ago
To all USERS: Please take no offense to the comments that are being removed. We are not opposed to free speech, and difference in opinions. However, we see this film as being very positive for both cultures involved, and all cultures in general. Our vision is so much more than this 4min peak, and we don't want to get away from the point of it all. Posts will be considered, but not all kept on the thread. We do appreciate all your support, and we could not do it with out ALL of your support.
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
rancidglass- That is large part of our thesis, in fact, in many of our interviews including Anton Palepoi, and Haloti Ngata. They both talk about whether or not they would want their children to play because of the wear and tear on their bodies. However, it has been a great way for opportunity. Anton- speaks about life after, and it is such a powerful interview on the aftermath of the NFL. Reno Mahe told us that he is a firm believer in Polynesians in Baseball. So it is a great point. Thanx
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
Being polynesian myself, I wonder if were grooming our young men to play only football and use the nfl as a way "out". It's concerning to see that so many young polynesian men aspire to play a sport that takes such a lasting toll on the body and mind and yet the average nfl player only makes 700k a year compared to baseball and basketball players that average above 3 million and have longer pro careers.
rancidglass 1 year ago
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ETJLMET, Yeah, it's funny how you shoot off now saying Tongans have made a bigger impact and in a shorter amount of time than Samoans. You better thank the next Samoan for that. And something else which is a BIG reason for the Tongan success is the fact that the internet has made things MUCH easier for you all do get things done. When Samoans came up, they did it without the luxury of the internet. They did it alone, as a proud people lifting each other up, along with you Tongans.
SamoanFromLA 1 year ago
ETJMET/SamoanFromLA- Your comments are appreciated, and show the pride one has in both cultures. That is why we feel it is so important to share these stories. However, this story is so much bigger than ONE culture from another. It is an American Story, about opportunity, opposition, success, failure, history, and most of all LOVE between our cultures and America. It will be to educate, inform, and inspire all cultures, especially the one's that it is being told through. Thanks again.
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
SamoanFromLA- We appreciate all feedback, and understand your concerns, however, with only a small peak at what we have in store for you, we are confident that you will not be disappointed with this film. Stats are numbers that will be defined more thoroughly in the finished piece. However, the stories of these characters will speak loudly for themselves. Thanks again for your feedback. We would love your support, but, understand the differences in opinion. Thanks again.
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
SamoanFromLA- ...once the film is completed. We are making this from the inside out to not only "up" the cultures, but inform, and educate all cultures including our own. We want to create opportunities for all to learn more, and grow together, as well as understand our histories. Again, we apologize for the 4min clip, as it is just a sneak peak, and the film has so much more to come. We hope for your support, if not now, when we get further down the line. We will post updates.
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
SamoanFromLA- Your comments are many of the reasons for this documentary. We agree, Samoans have been doing this for much longer, and we don't believe TV pieces like 60 minutes are doing your stories justice. You are right, Palagi's will tell only the surface of a story. Which is why we wanted to dig deeper into the cultures. This will be a documentary told through both cultures, it's people and the characters. This is for awareness of both cultures. We hope you will understand our vision.
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
The TEN Tongans in the league last year: Taitusi Lutui, Haloti ngata, Maake Kemoeatu, Chris Kemoeatu, Fili Moala, Naufahu Tahi, Sione Pou'ha, Fenuki Tupou, David Veikune, Marcus Mailei
SamoanFromLA 1 year ago
WarriorBK- again, we understand your concerns, in which we will address in this documentary. Tongans do have their own stats on a smaller scale, so, they will be different, however, have been very close thus far. We distinguished the 31 in the league with a very credible source, realizing that there are 20 Samoans, and 11 Tongans on rosters in the NFL. Thank you for bringing that up though, because it is only fair to credit those that are due. But, hard with only a 4min piece, thanks again.
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
WarriorBK- None taken, in fact, you have a valid point. Due to time & the difficulty of separating Tongans, Samoans, Hawaiians, half Polynesians etc. We stated stats from 60 Min. However, Vai is a Philadelphia News Broadcaster, and received those stats the day before we interviewed him. Coming to find out that it was 60 minutes who lumped us together. I apologize for the confusion, and if we offended you. But, we will have the hard numbers on the full length feature. Much luv to Samoans.
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
@Questionyoursource YOU RIGHT. ON MULTIPLE WEBSITES IT SHOWED SAMOANS WERE 40 TIMES
MORE LIKELY TO MAKE IT TO THE NFL, MEANING 60 MINUTES MUST HAVE LUMPED US ALL IN...WHICH MEANS ITS THEIR FAULT FOR THE CONFUSION...
BTW LOVE THE DOCO WOULD IT BE AVILABLE IN NZ?
bOcaGe312 1 year ago
No offense but there are 200+ SAMOANS alone playing College Football. SAMOANS are 56% more likely to make it to the NFL. My brother why is this video taking credit for the ACHIEVEMENTS of SAMOANS alone and adding TONGANS along with it? It is a proven fact that SAMOANS are 56% more likely to make it to the NFL as well as 200+ Samoans playing College Football. What is the Tongan percentage of NFL players as well as College? This video is taking credit for the achievements of SAMOANS alone.
WarriorBK 1 year ago
Thank you to all supporters, and I am proud to give you this film about a classic story of Cultures Clashing. As a filmmaker, this is only the beginning and you will see much more in not only documentaries, but the stories written and adapted to feature films. Thanks again.
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
so excited to see the finished product AND I luv seeing more Polynesians behind the camera and producing/directing! I wish u the best, can't wait to see more work!!
thelastdove 1 year ago 2
Love amazing can't wait to see more!
chalise33 1 year ago
cant wait for this video to come out. As a father of 3 children and aspiring athletes, I think this woiuld be very inspirational to me and especially for them. Thank you very much for this video and keep us all posted.
EULESSTONGA 1 year ago 2
N2E34- hey it's funny that you say that about knocking out Jose, we had a 2hr interview with Vai, in which you are only seeing the tip of the iceberg. Vai speaks openly about so many topics, and is well spoken, and very credible ( due to his position in Philadelphia broadcasting) to statistics, and information. Many of our other interviews have not been as informative, but of course contirbuted to the complete story of every aspect of these cultures. Thanks again for your reply, and support.
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
you should put vai sikahema's clip of knocking out jose canseco in your special features section or extra bonus footage
N2E34 1 year ago
Jodatoa05- thank you so much for your feedback, and it's funny you bring up all the important aspects of athletes and the successes and failures in football, and education. This film will cover it all, like I said, it will be the first type of doc of its kind. It is simply about adapting to American culture, success, education, failure, faith, family, and love. We have put a lot of though into the story, and it is a project that is very close to home for me. I love the stats....thank you.
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
Again I love what you guy's are putting together in this documentary. I think it will have a vast impact on our Polynesian community around the nation, as well as the Football community as a whole. I believe the Polynesian community are on the threshold of something big here with Football, and I can't wait to see what will happen in over the next coming years, let alone the next decade or so. The opportunities are there, its up to us to take it.
Jodatoa05 1 year ago 3
I also liked to note that if you included Poly's in all respectful levels of Collegiate Football: Div I, Div I-AA, Div II, Div III, you would find that there are a lot more Poly's playing the game, I would say well over 350+ but I have yet to find the exact number, because there are just too many colleges to follow and players tend to transfer out of lower level schools, esp JCs. With all these colleges there should be an opportunity somewhere for players to get an education through football.
Jodatoa05 1 year ago 3
Vai stated that there are currently 31 poly's currently playing in the NFL. As of 2000 to 2009 I noted that about 100+ poly's played for NFL teams, including former and current players. This includes players on active rosters, as well as players that were on practice squads. Players that were also drafted in the NFL draft as well as players that were signed as free agents. Some players were cut and didn't make the team final rosters, but had the opportunity to. Also, the AFL had a good #of polys
Jodatoa05 1 year ago 3
There is nothing wrong with setting the NFL as your goal in life, but getting that education and that college degree should be on equal terms with your NFL goal. I know that pressure is added on these next generation of Poly's playing the game to make it to the next level, but again stress the importance of academics coming first. But its up to the individual player to take that initiative and put just as much effort into their academics as they would Football. Though this is just my opinion...
Jodatoa05 1 year ago 3
I agree with sgiles40, Football should be 2nd when it comes to academics and education. In that respects, Football should be looked upon as a gateway or a path in giving players opportunities towards getting a College degree. Parents should stress to their kids the importance of education over the NFL, in that only a handful actually make it to the league, and also the fact that an NFL player's career is relatively short one...
Jodatoa05 1 year ago 2
mistanature- thank you, it is worth more than you know, if you could rate this, it is worth even more! We are currently providing numbers for funding and want to prove the fact that it is a story that needs to be told. So thank you very much for your support.
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
Cannot wait....you got all of my support....for what thats worth...
mistanature 1 year ago
sgiles40- That is our thesis exactly, and we will not take away from that option of success, simply because we do have a natural talent in that area. However, it should not be our only option. Your feedback is spot on, thank you. Much love to all players, and cultures that can relate. Tony (Director)
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
As a former college football player, I think that too many athletes, in particular polynesians, are short changed on life because of an over emphasis on sports at the expense of other things. This is a powerful message that needs to be told. I can't wait to see the final product.
sgiles40 1 year ago 7
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sgiles40 1 year ago
To all viewers and supporters, please join our group on FB "Culture Clash: Raised to Play Football. Our goal is 5000 in a short time span, and invite all your friends and fam to do the same. More importantly sign in youtube and RATE, it is vital to our completion and distribution of this project. I can't thank you all enough!
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
I will be putting out the teaser of the Senior Highschool football running back that we will be following for the documentary soon. We will keep you posted with teasers for sure! Thanks for the support!
Questionyoursource 1 year ago
This looks Fantastic! Any other teasers to come?
dmbsmokey 1 year ago 7
AMAZING VIDEO and I can't wait to see the full thing when it comes out.
stevesmith3202 2 years ago 9
Looks awesome, I can't wait for the full feature to come out
santiago9er 2 years ago 9
Very pertinent. Will follow this production.
younumer1fan 2 years ago 8
Very promising work. Looking forward to the finished product!
clight20 2 years ago 5
Love IT! Can't wait to see the rest of it.
jnvtau 2 years ago 6
can't wait to see the whole thing
siulung808 2 years ago 5
All I can say is OUTSTANDING! Please, Please keep us all posted on when this film comes out.
Jenmykidsmom 2 years ago 5
@Jenmykidsmom Yes- Keep us posted on dates.
kristin4100 2 years ago 6
I can NOT wait till this documentary is finished. It looks amazing!!
bluenosesucker 2 years ago 7