if your horse has HYPP even mildly you should be aware of the disease and its effects. horses w/ hypp have a mutation in the muscle which prevents them from processing potassium properly. an untreated hypp attack can cause dealy problems for your horse, my horses mother died from an episode. you need to be sure she is on low potassium diet & see if she might need a medication called acetazolimide, also karo syrup is a must!! that is what will snap her out of an attack, clear kind only tho!=)
I dont understand why people make such a big deal out of HYPP. Most of the horse I have ridden have been n/h and none have had any problems. I dont think AQHA should ban n/h horse because some of the best quarter horses are n/h......Vital signs are good is a perfect example.
@smhemmes I understand that completely and I wouldn't do that anyway :) Just the fact that people are saying that aqha shouldn't register n/h horses makes no sense to me. I would be furious if aqha ever did this.....they wouldn't anyway because they would lose way to much from it.
@DK578 if the decision is left to the members, HYPP will continue to be bred into horses due to many money making factors with no cares for the animals. If a stallion and mare owner knows their foal will not be registered if they test n/h, that will prevent them from breeding horses that will be subject to the disease. The only way to ever stop this disease is to quit breeding horses that are carriers.
@DK578 well what about the horses that do have problems? i have a wonderful horse who even with strict diet exercise and medication suffers the affects of this disease...his mother died during an attack at age 12, she was not my horse and I was never told the yearling I bought had this genetic condition. my horse is now 9 years old and its heartbreaking to see him suffer during an episode knowing this disease continues to be bred into horses, its needless and cruel.
@DK578 I agree they shouldn't ban or revoke registration for horses already papered. But to make a rule that any foal born from a carrier horse must be tested and free of the disease before being registered. It is a cruel thing to subject a horse to something that could have been prevented. There are too many quality horses in the world to continue to breed horses with a genetic fault that can painful and life threatening.
The horse i ride, Dexter has HYPP, if your horse takes the arthritis medicine, Previcox, it gives him seizures because it has alot of potassium. What i do if he has an episode is to give him Karo syrup. This usually stops it. You also need to keep he/she walking almost like colic, because it stretches the muscles.You can buy any horse with this! it does not affect their ability to be ridden because when excercising, the muscles are working and cant spasm.
Seriously breeders its not hard to put health and the animals welfare before money! I would never have kept my guy a colt if his results were different! These conditions could be bred out so easily if you just TEST your HORSES!
I have an APHA Paint colt I am considering keeping as a stallion prospect. However, he has Impressive on one part of his lines and has Poco Bueno all over further back in his pedigree. It said on all breed is grandsire was N/N so I wasn't to worried about it when I bought him, but to be safe and because I would never want to be an irresponsible breeder I got him tested for both HYPP and HERDA. Thankfully he came back N/N for HYPP and Negative for HERDA :D...
@LICKETYSPLITALNG because i don't care about it's "problems" for as long as they're manageable... all i care about is kindness of the horse... and this mare was very kind... i ended up not getting her, because someone else bought her before me.....
@clairmatinaustralia you need to do A LOT more research on Hypp if you would even consider buying a horse with Hypp and you know it is affected by it. I have just discovered my horse has this genetic defect and I will no longer be riding him nor selling him to anyone else. So far his episodes have been mild, but that could change at any time and I certainly wouldn't want to be on his back if that change happens. Horse riding is dangerous enough!
Also wanted to add - I'm glad AQHA stopped registering H/H foals...now if only they'd grow a pair and ban N/H foals, as well. This disease can be eradicated so, so easily. Take away the incentive (no papers, can't show)and you take away the desire to include it in a breeding program. Easy as pie. Of course all the big money halter breeders would blow a collective gasket, though. AQHA has allowed themselves to be bullied and it's for the detriment of future equine generations.
@timidwildone14 It was on the docket for one of the yearly meetings several years ago. The plan was the made it manditory N/N status by 2012 so maybe in a few more years, it'll come through. It certaintly should!!
It's HYperkalemic Periodic Paralysis, a.k.a. Impressive Syndrome. It can cause fine muscle twitches or full-body seizures and is very painful for affected animals.
Any horse that is affected by the disease traces back to Impressive, though NOT ALL IMPRESSIVE-BRED HORSES HAVE HYPP.
It is a genetic disease that is co-dominant, meaning the animal must only have one copy of the gene to express the disease.
Google it for more info...bottom line is NOBODY should breed H/H OR N/H horses!!!!
@timidwildone14 My horse has Impressive in him.. and he has a lot of issues from conformation to a parrot mouth.. It's despicable how many times they bred my horses dam. Each horse has turned out terrible. I cant believe the Aphc accepted him into their registry.
@GothicTrioOfEdwards That's really sad, Gothic. Impressive was a very nice horse, but people became SO obsessed with the heavy muscling present in his get (which were usually H/H or N/H), that they bred the hell out of that line. That's why H/H horses exist AT ALL, is because of all of the linebreeding. While I don't agree with breeding even an N/H horse, at least the animal isn't as likely to have the massive attacks that an H/H animal is guaranteed to experience without proper maintenance.
@timidwildone14 horses that are non-Impressive bred can also have the disease, but normally it is very mild cases such as shown in this video and most horse owners may completely miss the signs. Impressive bred horses were crossbred~linebred so much that is strengthened the disease and made it worse, thus the nickname "Impressive Syndrome"
a horse can but n/n wich there is not trait or n/h which means the horse has it in their blood 50/50 h/h the horse cannot be registered under AQHA...our friend had a friend who bred a n/n horse to a n/h horse and they bred a live breeding..went to lunch//came back and the stud was dead..he got to excited..
i have an Impressive-bred AQH mare, and her dam had to be put down b/c of it, i beleive. im not sure exactly, no 1 talks about it. but im scared 2 death my horse will have an attack. :(
I have an HYPP N/H 2 yr old. He had two tremors when we first got him. We feed him Omolene 100 now, and grass hay. He is doing great. No more tremors and is absolutely beautiful. I chose to be responsible and have him gelded, I can't understand why the QH association allows for this bloodline to continue. So sad for the animals. It's all about money!
I own A line bred inpressive stallion and thank god he is n/n cuz this would be really horrable to have him go threw....I was thinking about breeding this line to improve it so it can be n/n and to help give the impressive line a better name...
In reply to Irishmalone5 whom is misinformed about the topic of HYPP, as long as he is bred to N/N or non-carriers he cannot pass this along.........if he is homozygous normal, he doesn't have the gene and it is physically impossible for him to pass it on. You can't pass it on if you don't have it! Pretty simple genetics.
That would be the most likely time that it would not happen. This is when a horse's adrenaline is up. Whenever a horse is going into a spell, tremor, etc., give them about 80 cc of Karo Syrup and lunge them for about 15 minutes and it should subside. You should give an HYPP horse plenty of excercise. Feed as close to the same time as you can get, and feeds that are not loaded with corn oil; that are not high in potassium, and grass hays. Never Alfalfa.
Any horse who has "Impressive" blood lines can have the genetic defect.
Impressive has over 100,000 living descendants. Quarter horse, Theroughbred, Paint, Appaloosa and any other cross bred can have the disease if they have any impressive blood at all.
Because it is a dominant trait many of those descendants will test positive for the gene.
Thank you for posting this. I have an HYPP N/H mare. Have never had a problem (6 years so far). Always wondered what it would be like or if I would know if she had an episode or not.
It's called myotonia and is due to hyperexcitability of the muscle tissue due to a faulty sodium channel in the cell. The muscle simply twitches and spasms like that. Very severe HYPP attacks can result in paralysis.
This is a very very very mild HYPP attack, I dont even think it is an attack. HYPP attacks are mostly common is Halter Horses, but and horse can get them if they're posotive or negative.
HYPP only affects horses whom are descendants of Impressive and they're only affected if they're n/h or h/h. Not all halter horses can suffer from HYPP attacks and it's not contained to horses that are shown in halter. My HUS horse is HYPP N/H.
A horse can not get an attack if they do not have the disease, they can still get muscle smasms, but it is a genetic thing to actually have the disease. a horse has to test positive to have what would be classified as an HyPP attack.
hey, do you still ride this hypp n/h horse? i'm about to buy one here in australia, that's hypp n/h and i'm just wondering if it's actually safe to ride her....
She is not my horse, but the owner rode her without any troubles. Some HYPP horses have more attacks then others. This mare was 11 years old, when she had her first attack, which was caught on this video. You just have to watch what you feed them and do your research on HYPP.
@clairmatinaustralia One of my gelding is n/h and he is perfectly rideable, so she should be fine to ride; as long as you don't ride her when she has an "episode". N/H horses are not "collapsers" as H/H horses are. N/H episodes are generally muscle twitichs, but the severity changes from horse to horse. I just realized the post date, so you have either bought her or not, but I'm happy that there are some people that don't write off a genetic "problem"
@clairmatinaustralia I have an hypp n/h horse, he has episodes from time to time. Its a frustrating disease because my horse is an awesome horse loves to show, loves to run barrels and trail ride, and often times I miss out on such activities due to this disease. If you can help it... dont buy an n/h horse..symptoms can show up at anytime in their life. I love my horse and hes been wonderful but its heartbreaking to see him suffer. even w/ diet and meds he still has issues from time to time
@lowride25 Hi, thank you for your honesty. afterall i didn't buy the horse i was looking at, because it got sold before i had the chance to come and see it... but that you for your advice! :)
if your horse has HYPP even mildly you should be aware of the disease and its effects. horses w/ hypp have a mutation in the muscle which prevents them from processing potassium properly. an untreated hypp attack can cause dealy problems for your horse, my horses mother died from an episode. you need to be sure she is on low potassium diet & see if she might need a medication called acetazolimide, also karo syrup is a must!! that is what will snap her out of an attack, clear kind only tho!=)
lowride25 10 months ago
What is HYPP ??
xSPARKLEfoolx 10 months ago
I dont understand why people make such a big deal out of HYPP. Most of the horse I have ridden have been n/h and none have had any problems. I dont think AQHA should ban n/h horse because some of the best quarter horses are n/h......Vital signs are good is a perfect example.
DK578 11 months ago
@DK578 That may be so, BUT if two n/h horses are bred together, they can produce an h/h foal. That is not a change ANYONE wants to take.
smhemmes 11 months ago
@smhemmes I understand that completely and I wouldn't do that anyway :) Just the fact that people are saying that aqha shouldn't register n/h horses makes no sense to me. I would be furious if aqha ever did this.....they wouldn't anyway because they would lose way to much from it.
DK578 10 months ago
@DK578 if the decision is left to the members, HYPP will continue to be bred into horses due to many money making factors with no cares for the animals. If a stallion and mare owner knows their foal will not be registered if they test n/h, that will prevent them from breeding horses that will be subject to the disease. The only way to ever stop this disease is to quit breeding horses that are carriers.
magnoliaqp1 2 months ago
@DK578 well what about the horses that do have problems? i have a wonderful horse who even with strict diet exercise and medication suffers the affects of this disease...his mother died during an attack at age 12, she was not my horse and I was never told the yearling I bought had this genetic condition. my horse is now 9 years old and its heartbreaking to see him suffer during an episode knowing this disease continues to be bred into horses, its needless and cruel.
lowride25 10 months ago
@DK578 I agree they shouldn't ban or revoke registration for horses already papered. But to make a rule that any foal born from a carrier horse must be tested and free of the disease before being registered. It is a cruel thing to subject a horse to something that could have been prevented. There are too many quality horses in the world to continue to breed horses with a genetic fault that can painful and life threatening.
magnoliaqp1 2 months ago
The horse i ride, Dexter has HYPP, if your horse takes the arthritis medicine, Previcox, it gives him seizures because it has alot of potassium. What i do if he has an episode is to give him Karo syrup. This usually stops it. You also need to keep he/she walking almost like colic, because it stretches the muscles.You can buy any horse with this! it does not affect their ability to be ridden because when excercising, the muscles are working and cant spasm.
dexigirl123 11 months ago
Seriously breeders its not hard to put health and the animals welfare before money! I would never have kept my guy a colt if his results were different! These conditions could be bred out so easily if you just TEST your HORSES!
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I have an APHA Paint colt I am considering keeping as a stallion prospect. However, he has Impressive on one part of his lines and has Poco Bueno all over further back in his pedigree. It said on all breed is grandsire was N/N so I wasn't to worried about it when I bought him, but to be safe and because I would never want to be an irresponsible breeder I got him tested for both HYPP and HERDA. Thankfully he came back N/N for HYPP and Negative for HERDA :D...
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@LICKETYSPLITALNG because i don't care about it's "problems" for as long as they're manageable... all i care about is kindness of the horse... and this mare was very kind... i ended up not getting her, because someone else bought her before me.....
clairmatinaustralia 1 year ago
@clairmatinaustralia you need to do A LOT more research on Hypp if you would even consider buying a horse with Hypp and you know it is affected by it. I have just discovered my horse has this genetic defect and I will no longer be riding him nor selling him to anyone else. So far his episodes have been mild, but that could change at any time and I certainly wouldn't want to be on his back if that change happens. Horse riding is dangerous enough!
suzy6769 1 year ago
Also wanted to add - I'm glad AQHA stopped registering H/H foals...now if only they'd grow a pair and ban N/H foals, as well. This disease can be eradicated so, so easily. Take away the incentive (no papers, can't show)and you take away the desire to include it in a breeding program. Easy as pie. Of course all the big money halter breeders would blow a collective gasket, though. AQHA has allowed themselves to be bullied and it's for the detriment of future equine generations.
timidwildone14 1 year ago 17
@timidwildone14 It was on the docket for one of the yearly meetings several years ago. The plan was the made it manditory N/N status by 2012 so maybe in a few more years, it'll come through. It certaintly should!!
equinegurl 1 year ago
whats hypp mean
countrygirl999999 2 years ago
It's HYperkalemic Periodic Paralysis, a.k.a. Impressive Syndrome. It can cause fine muscle twitches or full-body seizures and is very painful for affected animals.
Any horse that is affected by the disease traces back to Impressive, though NOT ALL IMPRESSIVE-BRED HORSES HAVE HYPP.
It is a genetic disease that is co-dominant, meaning the animal must only have one copy of the gene to express the disease.
Google it for more info...bottom line is NOBODY should breed H/H OR N/H horses!!!!
timidwildone14 2 years ago 11
thnks for the info
countrygirl999999 2 years ago
i have that disease. :( ask me questions if any of you guys need answer from a person whos living it.
pecoCoal100 2 years ago
@timidwildone14 My horse has Impressive in him.. and he has a lot of issues from conformation to a parrot mouth.. It's despicable how many times they bred my horses dam. Each horse has turned out terrible. I cant believe the Aphc accepted him into their registry.
GothicTrioOfEdwards 2 years ago
@GothicTrioOfEdwards That's really sad, Gothic. Impressive was a very nice horse, but people became SO obsessed with the heavy muscling present in his get (which were usually H/H or N/H), that they bred the hell out of that line. That's why H/H horses exist AT ALL, is because of all of the linebreeding. While I don't agree with breeding even an N/H horse, at least the animal isn't as likely to have the massive attacks that an H/H animal is guaranteed to experience without proper maintenance.
timidwildone14 1 year ago
@timidwildone14 horses that are non-Impressive bred can also have the disease, but normally it is very mild cases such as shown in this video and most horse owners may completely miss the signs. Impressive bred horses were crossbred~linebred so much that is strengthened the disease and made it worse, thus the nickname "Impressive Syndrome"
magnoliaqp1 2 months ago
@timidwildone14 sorry, but what do you mean by H/H and N/H? x
tayron007 2 months ago
a horse can but n/n wich there is not trait or n/h which means the horse has it in their blood 50/50 h/h the horse cannot be registered under AQHA...our friend had a friend who bred a n/n horse to a n/h horse and they bred a live breeding..went to lunch//came back and the stud was dead..he got to excited..
bridlelessgirl 2 years ago
i have an Impressive-bred AQH mare, and her dam had to be put down b/c of it, i beleive. im not sure exactly, no 1 talks about it. but im scared 2 death my horse will have an attack. :(
Evanescence1004 2 years ago
I have an HYPP N/H 2 yr old. He had two tremors when we first got him. We feed him Omolene 100 now, and grass hay. He is doing great. No more tremors and is absolutely beautiful. I chose to be responsible and have him gelded, I can't understand why the QH association allows for this bloodline to continue. So sad for the animals. It's all about money!
Solidhorses 2 years ago 2
I own A line bred inpressive stallion and thank god he is n/n cuz this would be really horrable to have him go threw....I was thinking about breeding this line to improve it so it can be n/n and to help give the impressive line a better name...
MidtownBreeder09 2 years ago
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Solidhorses 2 years ago
Just becaus ehe is N/N doesn't mean his offspring will be READ UP!!!
Irishmalone5 2 years ago
In reply to Irishmalone5 whom is misinformed about the topic of HYPP, as long as he is bred to N/N or non-carriers he cannot pass this along.........if he is homozygous normal, he doesn't have the gene and it is physically impossible for him to pass it on. You can't pass it on if you don't have it! Pretty simple genetics.
MCShowhorses 2 years ago
You couldn't give me an N/H horse after some of the things Ive seen. What if they have an attack while you're riding?
shandarr 2 years ago 2
That would be the most likely time that it would not happen. This is when a horse's adrenaline is up. Whenever a horse is going into a spell, tremor, etc., give them about 80 cc of Karo Syrup and lunge them for about 15 minutes and it should subside. You should give an HYPP horse plenty of excercise. Feed as close to the same time as you can get, and feeds that are not loaded with corn oil; that are not high in potassium, and grass hays. Never Alfalfa.
Solidhorses 2 years ago
i heard that mostly quarter horses and race horses get tis because of all the in breeding that has been done is that true or can most breeds get ths
TiffanyAnne1987 2 years ago
it came from the impressive lines so horses carrying the impressive lines can carry the disease. not all quarter horses are inbred
jimboshippos 2 years ago
Any horse who has "Impressive" blood lines can have the genetic defect.
Impressive has over 100,000 living descendants. Quarter horse, Theroughbred, Paint, Appaloosa and any other cross bred can have the disease if they have any impressive blood at all.
Because it is a dominant trait many of those descendants will test positive for the gene.
lilrodeochick783 2 years ago
Thank you for posting this. I have an HYPP N/H mare. Have never had a problem (6 years so far). Always wondered what it would be like or if I would know if she had an episode or not.
eqbarrels 3 years ago
can some1 please explain what this is.
palominocraze 3 years ago
It's called myotonia and is due to hyperexcitability of the muscle tissue due to a faulty sodium channel in the cell. The muscle simply twitches and spasms like that. Very severe HYPP attacks can result in paralysis.
Cheyenne17124 3 years ago
This is a very very very mild HYPP attack, I dont even think it is an attack. HYPP attacks are mostly common is Halter Horses, but and horse can get them if they're posotive or negative.
HorseShowGirlxx 3 years ago
HYPP only affects horses whom are descendants of Impressive and they're only affected if they're n/h or h/h. Not all halter horses can suffer from HYPP attacks and it's not contained to horses that are shown in halter. My HUS horse is HYPP N/H.
purelypleasure92 3 years ago
A horse can not get an attack if they do not have the disease, they can still get muscle smasms, but it is a genetic thing to actually have the disease. a horse has to test positive to have what would be classified as an HyPP attack.
lilrodeochick783 2 years ago
hey, do you still ride this hypp n/h horse? i'm about to buy one here in australia, that's hypp n/h and i'm just wondering if it's actually safe to ride her....
clairmatinaustralia 3 years ago
She is not my horse, but the owner rode her without any troubles. Some HYPP horses have more attacks then others. This mare was 11 years old, when she had her first attack, which was caught on this video. You just have to watch what you feed them and do your research on HYPP.
RealFolkBlue 3 years ago 2
@clairmatinaustralia no it normally doesnt research it. It has to do woith the QH Impressive
FeatureEvent 1 year ago
@clairmatinaustralia One of my gelding is n/h and he is perfectly rideable, so she should be fine to ride; as long as you don't ride her when she has an "episode". N/H horses are not "collapsers" as H/H horses are. N/H episodes are generally muscle twitichs, but the severity changes from horse to horse. I just realized the post date, so you have either bought her or not, but I'm happy that there are some people that don't write off a genetic "problem"
caribbeanPirates3 11 months ago
@clairmatinaustralia I have an hypp n/h horse, he has episodes from time to time. Its a frustrating disease because my horse is an awesome horse loves to show, loves to run barrels and trail ride, and often times I miss out on such activities due to this disease. If you can help it... dont buy an n/h horse..symptoms can show up at anytime in their life. I love my horse and hes been wonderful but its heartbreaking to see him suffer. even w/ diet and meds he still has issues from time to time
lowride25 10 months ago
@lowride25 Hi, thank you for your honesty. afterall i didn't buy the horse i was looking at, because it got sold before i had the chance to come and see it... but that you for your advice! :)
clairmatinaustralia 10 months ago
ugh, i have a N/H horse too.. although this has never happened to me before (thank god!). i'm so paranoid about her feed and everything... hahaha.
systematicstatic 3 years ago