I really like this video. But it has no relevance to Jesus or God. I think you are all hallucinating and I think that you should just see the love and commitment in this. Fuck that oppressing religion called "Christianity" would have to be the most selfish religion of all.
@midifiles this isn't a question of faith, you lunatic booger !. never compare your belief with those of others ! Learn to respect them if you want them to respect yours ! You will never know the reason why they chose to stick with their belief. I'm sure you haven't read their holy book yet so you doesn't have a single idea about their GOD. And one more thing, if would want them to invite them to Christianity or whatsoever religion you have, your always free to ask them in a kind and nice way! .
This father sacrifices a son to save other people but there is a big difference between him and the story of Jesus. This man has no other choice. Either his son dies or all the people in the train die. God on the other side is omnipotent. He could've saved humanity without this sacrifice. Ask yourself if you were the father from the clip and you could've stopped it somehow would you still pull down the bridge killing your own son???
@midifiles If there is a god who makes a man sacrifice his son to show him that he is obedient to him then this god is no other than satan. if a god has to sacrifice his own son to save people who he can save without this sacrifice he is satan. The truth is that Christianity is all about obedience and grovelling to a torture god. I'm shocked that after long yearsof healthy spiritual life someone will chose to worship satan...
Christians believe that Jesus wasn't created. He was always there just as God is. They also believe that there is only one way for a pure god to be united with impure people — through the sacrifice of the pure person.
God isn't confined to my understanding of him.
I'm a Christian and I don't pretend to know all the answers. Questioning my faith is a part of what I do. I'm not a universalist but I hope to see muslims, buddhists, people who don't go to church, etc., that know love, in Heaven.
@PopBogomil Not to mention that Jesus was supposedly also god. So he sacrificed himself, to himself. The father in this film didn't.
I still don't get how making another version of yourself, then killing it in a bloody horrific way, is a good thing when you have the power to choose ANY way to forgive people. If god wanted (and were real), he could have used a goat instead of himself/Jesus.
Or, like you said, he could have just forgave everyone...
@Zentz29 God cud not choose just any method of forgiving us since the wage of sin is death and that is a law and God cannot keep changing the laws he makes coz den he wont be a fair God so he had 2 find another way of saving us and dat was by sacrificing his son for our sins
@PopBogomil thats because the wage of sin is death and we all have sinned so some1 or something had to die dats why in the olden days people used to kill goats or lambs wen dey sinned but god dint want dat so jesus died 4 us now no one has to die and we all can go to heaven if we trust and obey
@anushka2416585 No, it is not because we've sinned to someone, but because of the Original sin of Adam and Eve. And since I don't believe I must be punished for the crimes of people I never knew, I refuse to believe in Christianity.
@MrCobra811 (cont.) ...through Jesus, anybody in the world can accept the gift of salvation. Ephesians 2:8 "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God" So, God has given YOU the choice, and it is up to you whether you choose it or not. Please don't go saying we who believe are brain dead sheep. I can think for myself quite alright thank you. I hope this all makes sense. Bless you buddy
You obviously have no clue whatsoever about what God is really like and the reason Jesus had to die for us. Heaven is the place God created for us to go after we die. And for us to enter heaven, we need to be sinless. "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23
It is impossible for us to be sinless, so God sent Jesus to die for us, He took our punishment. He took the entire worlds sin and bore it on the cross. Through Jesus, anybody can accept the gift
Why are people so brain dead and brain washed these days ? God socrificed his son because he loved the world , WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP ! GOD COULDN'T SAVE THE SON AND STILL LOVE THE WORLD , WHY NOT ? I am the most powerful and in order to save somebody I have to kill my son ahahahahah WHAT A JOKE ! i MADE THE LAW BY MISTAKE AND NOW MY SON HAS TO PAY FOR IT HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH ! PEOPLE ARE SHEEP BRAIN DEAD SHEEP !
@MrPallekishore I guess that's just how it is though. Sometimes we get faced between making a decision that will either satisfy our selfishness or bring about the greater good.
The situation presented in this film is not a "sacrifice". It's just an unfortunate series of events. The Dad didn't offer up his son willingly, nor did the boy choose to die for the other people, which is the definition of a sacrifice. The boy just got in the middle of an accident wherein the Dad just happen to be the one who had to kill him. If the boy had been any other boy, the Dad would have done the same thing because the situation called for it.
@TheSchoolWorld dude how stupid could u be the man could have chosen not to pull the lever and let the people on the train to die but instead he chose to sacrifice his only son and allow his son to die same thing with god he could have allowed the whole world to die and die but he chose to sacrifice his son and save the world am i right or am i right
@scarfaceboricua1. His son got into that situation by accident. It was a coincidence that on the day the father brought his son to work, a train just happen to come by and the boy happen to fall into the gears. Those are all coincidences. Had the boy stayed home, no one would have died. God sent Jesus by choice, the boy here just got killed by accident because he was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Sacrifice is giving up something by choice, not because you're forced to make a decision.
@TheSchoolWorld but yet the father had to choose to either save his son or let the people on the train die same thing god could have chosen to let everyone in the world die and save his own son but instead he chose to save us thats the point of the story...
Why God has to sacrfice anything or His so-called son to put things right, when He controls all what He has created. May be the god that Christians believe in is weak.
Hey look here. If you're not christianity ,so be it. Just keep your comments to yourself. Who are you to judge whether this god deserves any worship? Oh mind you. Just shut your crap .Dont come here to comment crap if you dont know any shit about christianity. And by saying that. YOU are offending many people.
why must child die? and where is his son body? i don''t under stand what is befotten and perish and eternal and why sunndenly pop out a baby is it HIS son?
@edmundlovescod the son fell and is stuck under the bridge.if the father pulls the lever the bridge will crush the child but if he does not pull the lever every1on the train will die..................perish means destroy and eternal life means a life that will never end
@2010fatimah Making father in this video analogous to God means you weaken your God. Father had no choice in this video but God could have stopped or delayed the train by many means. This is the reason why things like God sacrificing His so-called son for salvation does not make sense to me. If I do sins, I simply regret in my heart and apologize God. I know He listens and he forgives depending upon the purity of me saying sorry. It's illogical that someone else gets the pain of my sins.
@mysupermail God lives by eternal laws of Justice and Mercy. Free agency is the impelling source of the soul's progress and the Lord cannot violate his own law; were he to do that, he would cease to be God. When we obtain any a blessing from God, it is by obedience to that law upon which it is predicated. Because we are imperfect we couldnt return to live in the presence of God. This is where mercy comes in and the only one that can pay our debt is one who is without sin. Jesus Christ
@troybank You are saying right things for the wrong reasons. Eternal laws of Justice and Mercy of God!!! Perfect thing to say. That is why in Islam names of God also include Ar-Rahim (The All-Merciful) and Al-'Adl (The Just). But it is not justice that you make someone suffer for other people’s sins. This means I keep on doing sins and someone else gets punished. Why shouldn’t I repent and use His law of Mercy instead. As I said He listens and forgives because He is also Al-Afu (The Forgiver).
@samuel17lin "but it's about love, don't u understand what love is?"
I honestly hope so. I believe it's something like NOT throwing people in hell for eternity. And NOT making people responsible for the actions of others. And NOT demanding blood sacrifices all the time, let alone a human sacrifice. And NOT drowning almost every single living creatures, just because they don't behave to my liking.
And this is EXACTLY why the comparison made in this clip fails.
@SachaGoed God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9), but if someone dies without Christ, they are still a sinner and God must send them to Hell if He is Just and Good. The Life is the flesh is in the blood (Leviticus 17:11), so without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness (Hebrews 9:22). Jesus had to spill His blood if we would ever be able to come back to Him. And, the people who drowned in the flood were Nephilim: half human.
@ClassicCartoonsGuy "but if someone dies without Christ, they are still a sinner and God must send them to Hell if He is Just and Good"
This shows very clear the immorality of Christianity, that not knowing Christ or not accepting what has not been proven should result into eternal damnation.
"Jesus had to spill His blood if we would ever be able to come back to Him"
Great, more blood spill. Such a swell God he is
I simply cannot believe in this god, because it's too easy to imagine a better god
@SachaGoed A better God? Um, yeah, Christianity is the only faith in which God came down to mankind to bring Him up to the proverbial mountaintop. All the other religions are works-based and say that you have to pray so many times a day or make a pilgrimmage somewhere or whatever to try and get in on your own. As in, all the other gods don't love at all or really care if people perish or not. The God of the Bible does care because He BECAME A MAN, He spilled HIS OWN blood.
@ClassicCartoonsGuy Please read my words. I said I can "imagine a better god". I wasn't comparing with other religions and gods.
I find it quite disturbing that people like you find the blood sacrifice such a moral act. Remember that god supposedly makes all the rules. So he is the one who demands a blood sacrifice. He sacrifices himself to himself for the rules he came up with.
@SachaGoed Do you have any idea what happened on that cross? Jesus, for the first time in all eternity, was separated from the Father. And, I cannot imagine "a better God" because my God chose to come down to me and live life as a human. He knows what it's like to be human and to be under the temptations of the flesh. He never sinned, but He knows the difficulty of being human. Try reading Philippians 2:5-8 without being in shear awe and wonder. I choke up basically ever time I read that.
@ClassicCartoonsGuy First, you can only assume these things happen. A book alone isn't enough for an intellectually honest person to accept it as fact.
Second, what you find such a 'wonderful' story is truly disgusting for someone like me. Your bloodthirsty jealous god demands another blood sacrifice for the sins of people that He himself created. Yes, god creates humans, gives them desires, and then calls it sins.
And obviously you're picking and choosing passages. Try Deuteronomy 25:11-12
@SachaGoed No, I'm not "picking and choosing" passages. Deuteronomy 25 is just as true as Philippians 2. The difference being the fact that through Christ, the Law has been fulfilled. We live under the fulfilled Law, as He came not to abolish it but to fulfill it because we could not fulfill and satisfy it on our own. Because we could not, He did. And, of course He's jealous, He created us all. Why would He want His OWN creation to follow gods that don't exist?
@ClassicCartoonsGuy "because we could not fulfill and satisfy it on our own"
you mean the immoral garbage from Deuteronomy and other chapters? Yes, we chose not to cut off our women's hands. Or kill non-believers. Or kill homosexuals. This Law from god you speak of is one of men's worst creation.
And btw, something that's really perfect, doesn't need anything. That's what makes it perfect. So why does your god need to be worshipped? Not so perfect after all...
@SachaGoed Show me in the Bible where it says God "needs" our worship. He does not need it, but does deserve to be worshiped. He deserves to be worshiped for who He is, Jehovah-Jireh, Jehovah-Nissi, Jehovah-Rapheka.... Oh, and the people God told the Israelites to kill in the Old Testament were not human, but were tribes of Nephilim (half-human, half fallen angel). Homosexuality is a judgment God puts on a people for not acknowledging Him as Creator. The sin is the condoning of homosexuality.
@ClassicCartoonsGuy "Show me in the Bible where it says God "needs" our worship."
Ok, all the animal sacrifices and rituals in OT was just for his entertainment.
"and the people God told the Israelites to kill in the Old Testament were not human, but were tribes of Nephilim (half-human, half fallen angel)"
Homosexuals, men collecting sticks on Sabbath, people cursing or blaspheming, disobedient children, witches and many more. The punishment for all these is death. It's all in the bible.
@ClassicCartoonsGuy But what honestly worries me most is that christians find this all moral & just.
Homosexuality is a sin. Kill 'em.
Praying to other gods is a sin. Kill 'em.
A woman accidentally touching the genitals of her husband's assailant. Chop of her hand.
Disobedient children. Kill 'em.
You might say this is moral and just for that time, but I find that hard to believe. We don't do these things anymore, not because of god or jesus, but because society doesn't see it as moral anymore.
@SachaGoed The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was not because of homosexuality. Read the text in Genesis and Romans. The sin was the public condoning of homosexuality. You then go on talking about people who should be killed. You clearly do not understand the relationship between the Old Testament unfulfilled Law and the Law fulfilled in the New Testament through Jesus Christ. I have done my part to tell you about salvation, and Jesus commands me to stop at that (Matt. 7:6).
@ClassicCartoonsGuy You're simple not getting the points I'm trying to make.
Immoral laws from god make him a dick, no matter if it's OT or NT. Simple as that.
You can claim I don't understand the relationship between OT & NT, but you're not capable of a coming with a reasonable explanation. All you can do is lie to yourself and throw some bible passages. The god from the OT is a horrible character and NOTHING can justify that. Yahweh.... is.... a.... dick. Period
@SachaGoed I'm certainly capable of arguing this all day with you and giving you explanation after explanation, but there's no point. You obviously don't want to hear what I have to say as you're proving yourself to be a jerk by the language you use. We're just going to have to agree to disagree, but I want you to know that I am writing you in my prayer journal.
He is Good, He is set apart and holy, He is Creator, God Almighty. The world was in darkness, needed a light, He sent His Son.
@ClassicCartoonsGuy "You obviously don't want to hear what I have to say as you're proving yourself to be a jerk by the language you use"
I'm saying this with all my integrity possible: your arguments were nowhere slightly convincing to justify the immorality and injustice carried through the bible. To convince someone like me, and many many others, you need to come with something better.
You're calling me a jerk because of my language, yet the bible contains the real vulgarity. Shame on you
@SachaGoed Okay, let me put this as plain as I can to you. The people God commanded the Israelites to kill who were in the Promised Land were not human. They were tribes of Nephilim." Satan had created a gene pool problem similar to what he had done in Genesis 6, which has a scary phrase "and also after that," to try and prevent the Messiah from coming. God confirmed the land covenant with Abram and Satan had 400 years to lay down a minefield. Nothing bad in killing those people.
@ClassicCartoonsGuy Please, as you hopefully have seen I've listed other doubtful sins that deserved death or other form of punishment according to the bible. Our neighbor, friend or family could be any of the people committing those.
My objection is very clear: the punishments for those sins, as stated in the bible, are NEVER just & moral.
No matter how important god's laws are to him, it's NEVER justified to kill a man collecting sticks on Sabbath. It's our obligation to oppose this injustice
@SachaGoed And, you are forgetting that at that time, the Law was unfulfilled, and we were destined for hell anyway with our only hope being in looking forward to the Messiah. Now, the Law has been fulfilled through Christ. The Law was given to make man worse, not better, to show man his state before Almighty God (Romans 5:20). The purpose of the Law was to give man a knowledge of his sinful nature (Romans 3:20).
I will no longer cast my pearls to you to trample (Matt. 7:6). Goodbye!! ;)
@ClassicCartoonsGuy Well, it was you who started replying to my comments. And obviously, I cannot accept any of your claims and arguments. It remains immoral, unjust & unreasonable to me.
I'm glad I'm not in your shoes, having to defend a book that has as motto: Kill 'em all, but keep the virgins for yourselves.
@SachaGoed I'm praying God will give you a clear understanding of His Word. I did start commenting because I am commanded to proclaim the truth of the salvation He offers, but Jesus said in Matthew 7:6 to not stop if they just start defaming the Word. I suggest you tuning into: theamericanvoice . com at 9:00 pm Central Time and listen to Acceleration Radio with L.A. Marzulli tonight (Wednesday). The subject is UFOs and abductions with guest Chris Ward.
you sick moron.,! you're calling God a dick.,?? what more can you call yourself.,!! i believe in Jesus and for me that makes him holy so quite baby talking and go back to your mama and ask her to teach you some manners and respect you retard.,!!!
@MrTisoy21 Since I back up my claims with arguments, which you haven't responded to, and you've only shown capable of calling me names, it's only you that needs to be taught some manners.
Respect has to be earned, and your pity bloodthirsty god can forget about that. Just read your bible. No serious, read it. This god is pure evil.
You believe in Jesus? Whatever you feel like. Believing in him makes him automatically holy? Silly, but whatever you want. This deserves respect? No way man...
Nopes, Jesus Christ is not evil. His the the God of Gods and his a living God. Jesus Christ is here with us, though sometimes we don't feel him, it's not that we can't but we just won't.
Sometimes his at the door of your heart, knocking waiting to be welcome, it's up to you, whether you'll accept him or not. May God be with you....
@MrTisoy21 "God sent salvation thru jesus our saviour"
yeah, by demanding another blood sacrifice. And you're calling me sick?
God makes the rules. He could also not demand a blood sacrifice, forgive mankind for the flaws he put in them. But he doesn't. This god does not deserve any worship.
And your way of defending your god and religion is calling me totally sick... not a single rational response. Shows the weakness of your position.
well, you should not talk like that, in order to bring someone to God. They should see God in us....ok? i don' t want to quarrel, i'm just stating what is right in the eyes of God and men.
:'(
717thevampirediaries 2 days ago
soLid :( sad sad sad
MsAriane0805 1 week ago
awtx :(
TheGravil 1 month ago
ilustrasi yang luar biasa,sama seperti Bapa mengorbankan Putranya yang tunggal untuk Menebus Dosa manusia...,Jesus Bless All
halley2286 2 months ago
LOL
Sonyphilia 2 months ago
SO SAD
krizziaize1 3 months ago
hndro2 thanks for your ugly thoughts on religion sir
UsernameInVain 3 months ago
I really like this video. But it has no relevance to Jesus or God. I think you are all hallucinating and I think that you should just see the love and commitment in this. Fuck that oppressing religion called "Christianity" would have to be the most selfish religion of all.
hndro2 4 months ago
@hndro2 oh...thanks alot for your "POSITIVE" thoughts for God !!
BlessHernandez 2 months ago
SATAN disliked this
JanSitchon 4 months ago 8
the most touching video that i've ever seen :')
theofficialblythe 4 months ago
@midifiles this isn't a question of faith, you lunatic booger !. never compare your belief with those of others ! Learn to respect them if you want them to respect yours ! You will never know the reason why they chose to stick with their belief. I'm sure you haven't read their holy book yet so you doesn't have a single idea about their GOD. And one more thing, if would want them to invite them to Christianity or whatsoever religion you have, your always free to ask them in a kind and nice way! .
bingbingreyes 5 months ago
This father sacrifices a son to save other people but there is a big difference between him and the story of Jesus. This man has no other choice. Either his son dies or all the people in the train die. God on the other side is omnipotent. He could've saved humanity without this sacrifice. Ask yourself if you were the father from the clip and you could've stopped it somehow would you still pull down the bridge killing your own son???
PopBogomil 5 months ago 2
@midifiles If there is a god who makes a man sacrifice his son to show him that he is obedient to him then this god is no other than satan. if a god has to sacrifice his own son to save people who he can save without this sacrifice he is satan. The truth is that Christianity is all about obedience and grovelling to a torture god. I'm shocked that after long yearsof healthy spiritual life someone will chose to worship satan...
PopBogomil 5 months ago
Christians believe that Jesus wasn't created. He was always there just as God is. They also believe that there is only one way for a pure god to be united with impure people — through the sacrifice of the pure person.
God isn't confined to my understanding of him.
I'm a Christian and I don't pretend to know all the answers. Questioning my faith is a part of what I do. I'm not a universalist but I hope to see muslims, buddhists, people who don't go to church, etc., that know love, in Heaven.
guitarift 5 months ago
I am a muslim... and i believed in Allah the beneficient, the merciful...
mikkailnandang 6 months ago
God so much loved the world that he gave his only begotten son... Why didn't he just forgive and take us to heaven?
PopBogomil 6 months ago
@PopBogomil Not to mention that Jesus was supposedly also god. So he sacrificed himself, to himself. The father in this film didn't.
I still don't get how making another version of yourself, then killing it in a bloody horrific way, is a good thing when you have the power to choose ANY way to forgive people. If god wanted (and were real), he could have used a goat instead of himself/Jesus.
Or, like you said, he could have just forgave everyone...
It's insanity.
Zentz29 6 months ago
@Zentz29 Yes, there is only one god in Christianity. So how did the universe get through without god for three days?
PopBogomil 6 months ago
@Zentz29 God cud not choose just any method of forgiving us since the wage of sin is death and that is a law and God cannot keep changing the laws he makes coz den he wont be a fair God so he had 2 find another way of saving us and dat was by sacrificing his son for our sins
anushka2416585 1 month ago
@anushka2416585 lolz
So we should still be allowed to have slaves and beat them? God says we should in the bible...
Zentz29 1 month ago
@PopBogomil thats because the wage of sin is death and we all have sinned so some1 or something had to die dats why in the olden days people used to kill goats or lambs wen dey sinned but god dint want dat so jesus died 4 us now no one has to die and we all can go to heaven if we trust and obey
anushka2416585 1 month ago
@anushka2416585 No, it is not because we've sinned to someone, but because of the Original sin of Adam and Eve. And since I don't believe I must be punished for the crimes of people I never knew, I refuse to believe in Christianity.
PopBogomil 1 month ago
@MrCobra811 (cont.) ...through Jesus, anybody in the world can accept the gift of salvation. Ephesians 2:8 "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God" So, God has given YOU the choice, and it is up to you whether you choose it or not. Please don't go saying we who believe are brain dead sheep. I can think for myself quite alright thank you. I hope this all makes sense. Bless you buddy
dan0188 7 months ago
@MrCobra811
You obviously have no clue whatsoever about what God is really like and the reason Jesus had to die for us. Heaven is the place God created for us to go after we die. And for us to enter heaven, we need to be sinless. "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23
It is impossible for us to be sinless, so God sent Jesus to die for us, He took our punishment. He took the entire worlds sin and bore it on the cross. Through Jesus, anybody can accept the gift
dan0188 7 months ago
Why are people so brain dead and brain washed these days ? God socrificed his son because he loved the world , WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP ! GOD COULDN'T SAVE THE SON AND STILL LOVE THE WORLD , WHY NOT ? I am the most powerful and in order to save somebody I have to kill my son ahahahahah WHAT A JOKE ! i MADE THE LAW BY MISTAKE AND NOW MY SON HAS TO PAY FOR IT HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH ! PEOPLE ARE SHEEP BRAIN DEAD SHEEP !
MrCobra811 7 months ago
Thank you so much god for sacrificeing your son for others?
MrJmulk 7 months ago
I am so sorry for the kid and more sorry for the father.
I am a guy and as selfish as it may sound, I would have saved my boy. Hats-off to this dad though
MrPallekishore 9 months ago 7
@MrPallekishore I guess that's just how it is though. Sometimes we get faced between making a decision that will either satisfy our selfishness or bring about the greater good.
myke336 1 month ago
The situation presented in this film is not a "sacrifice". It's just an unfortunate series of events. The Dad didn't offer up his son willingly, nor did the boy choose to die for the other people, which is the definition of a sacrifice. The boy just got in the middle of an accident wherein the Dad just happen to be the one who had to kill him. If the boy had been any other boy, the Dad would have done the same thing because the situation called for it.
TheSchoolWorld 10 months ago
@TheSchoolWorld dude how stupid could u be the man could have chosen not to pull the lever and let the people on the train to die but instead he chose to sacrifice his only son and allow his son to die same thing with god he could have allowed the whole world to die and die but he chose to sacrifice his son and save the world am i right or am i right
scarfaceboricua1 10 months ago
@scarfaceboricua1. His son got into that situation by accident. It was a coincidence that on the day the father brought his son to work, a train just happen to come by and the boy happen to fall into the gears. Those are all coincidences. Had the boy stayed home, no one would have died. God sent Jesus by choice, the boy here just got killed by accident because he was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Sacrifice is giving up something by choice, not because you're forced to make a decision.
TheSchoolWorld 10 months ago
@TheSchoolWorld but yet the father had to choose to either save his son or let the people on the train die same thing god could have chosen to let everyone in the world die and save his own son but instead he chose to save us thats the point of the story...
scarfaceboricua1 10 months ago
Thanks Jesus for your sacrifice. Thanks for your life in my life. Thanks for Salvation. Jesus you are my Lord. My love my best friend.
Swedenleslie 10 months ago
this vid makes me cry ,.. ToT
ilovehyoful 11 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Why God has to sacrfice anything or His so-called son to put things right, when He controls all what He has created. May be the god that Christians believe in is weak.
mysupermail 11 months ago
Hey look here. If you're not christianity ,so be it. Just keep your comments to yourself. Who are you to judge whether this god deserves any worship? Oh mind you. Just shut your crap .Dont come here to comment crap if you dont know any shit about christianity. And by saying that. YOU are offending many people.
Maplesea96 1 year ago
why must child die? and where is his son body? i don''t under stand what is befotten and perish and eternal and why sunndenly pop out a baby is it HIS son?
edmundlovescod 1 year ago
why must child die? and where is his son body? i don''t under stand what is befotten and perish and eternal
edmundlovescod 1 year ago
@edmundlovescod the son fell and is stuck under the bridge.if the father pulls the lever the bridge will crush the child but if he does not pull the lever every1on the train will die..................perish means destroy and eternal life means a life that will never end
anushka2416585 1 month ago
why must child die? and where is his son body?
edmundlovescod 1 year ago
why must child die?
edmundlovescod 1 year ago
anaLyze The Video...
The Father Was The God..
And The Son is jesus christ..
and the people in the train is the people in the world..
What can you SAy for Sacrificing God his only son?
what did you feel?
2010fatimah 1 year ago
@2010fatimah Making father in this video analogous to God means you weaken your God. Father had no choice in this video but God could have stopped or delayed the train by many means. This is the reason why things like God sacrificing His so-called son for salvation does not make sense to me. If I do sins, I simply regret in my heart and apologize God. I know He listens and he forgives depending upon the purity of me saying sorry. It's illogical that someone else gets the pain of my sins.
mysupermail 11 months ago
@mysupermail God lives by eternal laws of Justice and Mercy. Free agency is the impelling source of the soul's progress and the Lord cannot violate his own law; were he to do that, he would cease to be God. When we obtain any a blessing from God, it is by obedience to that law upon which it is predicated. Because we are imperfect we couldnt return to live in the presence of God. This is where mercy comes in and the only one that can pay our debt is one who is without sin. Jesus Christ
troybank 11 months ago
@troybank You are saying right things for the wrong reasons. Eternal laws of Justice and Mercy of God!!! Perfect thing to say. That is why in Islam names of God also include Ar-Rahim (The All-Merciful) and Al-'Adl (The Just). But it is not justice that you make someone suffer for other people’s sins. This means I keep on doing sins and someone else gets punished. Why shouldn’t I repent and use His law of Mercy instead. As I said He listens and forgives because He is also Al-Afu (The Forgiver).
mysupermail 11 months ago
May I ask is this based ona true story
ijlalraza10 1 year ago
the man sacrifice his son for many people
just like God gave his son for our sins
and i'm willing to do it also for God my savior and my king
MegaChinari 1 year ago
this is the clip i've been lookin for! TGIF it!! (Thank God I Found it! )
RasSplinterspine 1 year ago
Pretty stupid video. Any person who thinks this makes sense should get their head checked.
Jesus supposedly rose from the dead... I'll bet you this boy didn't.
God killed tons of people... I'll bet you this father didn't.
A shameful comparison
SachaGoed 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@SachaGoed Jesus loves you............
gsagaya 1 year ago
@SachaGoed but it's about love, don't u understand what love is?
just think if this video happened to yourself, what will u do? God bless
samuel17lin 1 year ago
@samuel17lin "but it's about love, don't u understand what love is?"
I honestly hope so. I believe it's something like NOT throwing people in hell for eternity. And NOT making people responsible for the actions of others. And NOT demanding blood sacrifices all the time, let alone a human sacrifice. And NOT drowning almost every single living creatures, just because they don't behave to my liking.
And this is EXACTLY why the comparison made in this clip fails.
SachaGoed 1 year ago
@SachaGoed God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9), but if someone dies without Christ, they are still a sinner and God must send them to Hell if He is Just and Good. The Life is the flesh is in the blood (Leviticus 17:11), so without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness (Hebrews 9:22). Jesus had to spill His blood if we would ever be able to come back to Him. And, the people who drowned in the flood were Nephilim: half human.
ClassicCartoonsGuy 1 year ago
@ClassicCartoonsGuy "but if someone dies without Christ, they are still a sinner and God must send them to Hell if He is Just and Good"
This shows very clear the immorality of Christianity, that not knowing Christ or not accepting what has not been proven should result into eternal damnation.
"Jesus had to spill His blood if we would ever be able to come back to Him"
Great, more blood spill. Such a swell God he is
I simply cannot believe in this god, because it's too easy to imagine a better god
SachaGoed 1 year ago
@SachaGoed A better God? Um, yeah, Christianity is the only faith in which God came down to mankind to bring Him up to the proverbial mountaintop. All the other religions are works-based and say that you have to pray so many times a day or make a pilgrimmage somewhere or whatever to try and get in on your own. As in, all the other gods don't love at all or really care if people perish or not. The God of the Bible does care because He BECAME A MAN, He spilled HIS OWN blood.
watch?v=DVAViIADUlg
ClassicCartoonsGuy 1 year ago
@ClassicCartoonsGuy Please read my words. I said I can "imagine a better god". I wasn't comparing with other religions and gods.
I find it quite disturbing that people like you find the blood sacrifice such a moral act. Remember that god supposedly makes all the rules. So he is the one who demands a blood sacrifice. He sacrifices himself to himself for the rules he came up with.
SachaGoed 1 year ago
@SachaGoed Do you have any idea what happened on that cross? Jesus, for the first time in all eternity, was separated from the Father. And, I cannot imagine "a better God" because my God chose to come down to me and live life as a human. He knows what it's like to be human and to be under the temptations of the flesh. He never sinned, but He knows the difficulty of being human. Try reading Philippians 2:5-8 without being in shear awe and wonder. I choke up basically ever time I read that.
ClassicCartoonsGuy 1 year ago
@ClassicCartoonsGuy First, you can only assume these things happen. A book alone isn't enough for an intellectually honest person to accept it as fact.
Second, what you find such a 'wonderful' story is truly disgusting for someone like me. Your bloodthirsty jealous god demands another blood sacrifice for the sins of people that He himself created. Yes, god creates humans, gives them desires, and then calls it sins.
And obviously you're picking and choosing passages. Try Deuteronomy 25:11-12
SachaGoed 1 year ago
@SachaGoed No, I'm not "picking and choosing" passages. Deuteronomy 25 is just as true as Philippians 2. The difference being the fact that through Christ, the Law has been fulfilled. We live under the fulfilled Law, as He came not to abolish it but to fulfill it because we could not fulfill and satisfy it on our own. Because we could not, He did. And, of course He's jealous, He created us all. Why would He want His OWN creation to follow gods that don't exist?
ClassicCartoonsGuy 1 year ago
@ClassicCartoonsGuy "because we could not fulfill and satisfy it on our own"
you mean the immoral garbage from Deuteronomy and other chapters? Yes, we chose not to cut off our women's hands. Or kill non-believers. Or kill homosexuals. This Law from god you speak of is one of men's worst creation.
And btw, something that's really perfect, doesn't need anything. That's what makes it perfect. So why does your god need to be worshipped? Not so perfect after all...
SachaGoed 1 year ago
@SachaGoed Show me in the Bible where it says God "needs" our worship. He does not need it, but does deserve to be worshiped. He deserves to be worshiped for who He is, Jehovah-Jireh, Jehovah-Nissi, Jehovah-Rapheka.... Oh, and the people God told the Israelites to kill in the Old Testament were not human, but were tribes of Nephilim (half-human, half fallen angel). Homosexuality is a judgment God puts on a people for not acknowledging Him as Creator. The sin is the condoning of homosexuality.
ClassicCartoonsGuy 1 year ago
@ClassicCartoonsGuy "Show me in the Bible where it says God "needs" our worship."
Ok, all the animal sacrifices and rituals in OT was just for his entertainment.
"and the people God told the Israelites to kill in the Old Testament were not human, but were tribes of Nephilim (half-human, half fallen angel)"
Homosexuals, men collecting sticks on Sabbath, people cursing or blaspheming, disobedient children, witches and many more. The punishment for all these is death. It's all in the bible.
SachaGoed 1 year ago
@ClassicCartoonsGuy But what honestly worries me most is that christians find this all moral & just.
Homosexuality is a sin. Kill 'em.
Praying to other gods is a sin. Kill 'em.
A woman accidentally touching the genitals of her husband's assailant. Chop of her hand.
Disobedient children. Kill 'em.
You might say this is moral and just for that time, but I find that hard to believe. We don't do these things anymore, not because of god or jesus, but because society doesn't see it as moral anymore.
SachaGoed 1 year ago
@SachaGoed The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was not because of homosexuality. Read the text in Genesis and Romans. The sin was the public condoning of homosexuality. You then go on talking about people who should be killed. You clearly do not understand the relationship between the Old Testament unfulfilled Law and the Law fulfilled in the New Testament through Jesus Christ. I have done my part to tell you about salvation, and Jesus commands me to stop at that (Matt. 7:6).
ClassicCartoonsGuy 1 year ago
@ClassicCartoonsGuy You're simple not getting the points I'm trying to make.
Immoral laws from god make him a dick, no matter if it's OT or NT. Simple as that.
You can claim I don't understand the relationship between OT & NT, but you're not capable of a coming with a reasonable explanation. All you can do is lie to yourself and throw some bible passages. The god from the OT is a horrible character and NOTHING can justify that. Yahweh.... is.... a.... dick. Period
SachaGoed 1 year ago
@SachaGoed I'm certainly capable of arguing this all day with you and giving you explanation after explanation, but there's no point. You obviously don't want to hear what I have to say as you're proving yourself to be a jerk by the language you use. We're just going to have to agree to disagree, but I want you to know that I am writing you in my prayer journal.
He is Good, He is set apart and holy, He is Creator, God Almighty. The world was in darkness, needed a light, He sent His Son.
ClassicCartoonsGuy 1 year ago
@ClassicCartoonsGuy "You obviously don't want to hear what I have to say as you're proving yourself to be a jerk by the language you use"
I'm saying this with all my integrity possible: your arguments were nowhere slightly convincing to justify the immorality and injustice carried through the bible. To convince someone like me, and many many others, you need to come with something better.
You're calling me a jerk because of my language, yet the bible contains the real vulgarity. Shame on you
SachaGoed 1 year ago
@SachaGoed Okay, let me put this as plain as I can to you. The people God commanded the Israelites to kill who were in the Promised Land were not human. They were tribes of Nephilim." Satan had created a gene pool problem similar to what he had done in Genesis 6, which has a scary phrase "and also after that," to try and prevent the Messiah from coming. God confirmed the land covenant with Abram and Satan had 400 years to lay down a minefield. Nothing bad in killing those people.
ClassicCartoonsGuy 1 year ago
@ClassicCartoonsGuy Please, as you hopefully have seen I've listed other doubtful sins that deserved death or other form of punishment according to the bible. Our neighbor, friend or family could be any of the people committing those.
My objection is very clear: the punishments for those sins, as stated in the bible, are NEVER just & moral.
No matter how important god's laws are to him, it's NEVER justified to kill a man collecting sticks on Sabbath. It's our obligation to oppose this injustice
SachaGoed 1 year ago
@SachaGoed And, you are forgetting that at that time, the Law was unfulfilled, and we were destined for hell anyway with our only hope being in looking forward to the Messiah. Now, the Law has been fulfilled through Christ. The Law was given to make man worse, not better, to show man his state before Almighty God (Romans 5:20). The purpose of the Law was to give man a knowledge of his sinful nature (Romans 3:20).
I will no longer cast my pearls to you to trample (Matt. 7:6). Goodbye!! ;)
ClassicCartoonsGuy 1 year ago
@ClassicCartoonsGuy Well, it was you who started replying to my comments. And obviously, I cannot accept any of your claims and arguments. It remains immoral, unjust & unreasonable to me.
I'm glad I'm not in your shoes, having to defend a book that has as motto: Kill 'em all, but keep the virgins for yourselves.
Good day
SachaGoed 1 year ago
@SachaGoed I'm praying God will give you a clear understanding of His Word. I did start commenting because I am commanded to proclaim the truth of the salvation He offers, but Jesus said in Matthew 7:6 to not stop if they just start defaming the Word. I suggest you tuning into: theamericanvoice . com at 9:00 pm Central Time and listen to Acceleration Radio with L.A. Marzulli tonight (Wednesday). The subject is UFOs and abductions with guest Chris Ward.
watch?v=RedJ21K1BD4
Good bye, in prayer
ClassicCartoonsGuy 1 year ago
you sick moron.,! you're calling God a dick.,?? what more can you call yourself.,!! i believe in Jesus and for me that makes him holy so quite baby talking and go back to your mama and ask her to teach you some manners and respect you retard.,!!!
MrTisoy21 1 year ago
@MrTisoy21 Since I back up my claims with arguments, which you haven't responded to, and you've only shown capable of calling me names, it's only you that needs to be taught some manners.
Respect has to be earned, and your pity bloodthirsty god can forget about that. Just read your bible. No serious, read it. This god is pure evil.
You believe in Jesus? Whatever you feel like. Believing in him makes him automatically holy? Silly, but whatever you want. This deserves respect? No way man...
SachaGoed 1 year ago
Nopes, Jesus Christ is not evil. His the the God of Gods and his a living God. Jesus Christ is here with us, though sometimes we don't feel him, it's not that we can't but we just won't.
Sometimes his at the door of your heart, knocking waiting to be welcome, it's up to you, whether you'll accept him or not. May God be with you....
249dalesniper 1 year ago
@SachaGoed
your totally sick man., God sent salvation thru jesus our saviour.,
MrTisoy21 1 year ago
@MrTisoy21 "God sent salvation thru jesus our saviour"
yeah, by demanding another blood sacrifice. And you're calling me sick?
God makes the rules. He could also not demand a blood sacrifice, forgive mankind for the flaws he put in them. But he doesn't. This god does not deserve any worship.
And your way of defending your god and religion is calling me totally sick... not a single rational response. Shows the weakness of your position.
SachaGoed 1 year ago
well, you should not talk like that, in order to bring someone to God. They should see God in us....ok? i don' t want to quarrel, i'm just stating what is right in the eyes of God and men.
249dalesniper 1 year ago
thank you...i appreciated it sooo much.
regnhard 1 year ago
Comment removed
gsagaya 1 year ago
Thanks
otrebliw 1 year ago
epic.......!!
adonisprashant 1 year ago