USS VELLA GULF Emergency breakaway & Hard Right Rudder

[Ilicium]

The Ticos were always top-heavy pigs.

[BenAliGtor]

"Gee Bullwinkle! We're listing to PORT!!"

"Better than MUSCATEL!!"

Okay, so it's an old joke..

[Dominicano34]

It happened while chassing an speed boat near the coast of southern Spain in 2006. I personally delivered the replacement rudder that came to Rota Spain onboard a C-17 cargo plane. It was quite a logistic achievement and it came during the night hours. The rudder actually went off into the sea, therefore you can see the ship drifting....it wasnt just maneuvering.

[swillmaster1]

She was our carrier bitch on the 04 GW cruise....always there

[Vogner938]

I bet Chuck Norris was at the helm. "Hey Guys Watch This!"

[TXGunner]

2002-2006 GM2 Salazar here:

USS Vella Gulf had the best crew while I was onboard. It was funny to see the hard working folks in the galley slip and slide all over the place. I remember talking to one of the cooks and the next thing I know he was upside down and I was talking to his boots because of this.

BAD ASS SHIP!

[AussieMusicRocks]

An entire building making a hard right. Looks awesome.

[wccborn]

Looks like that things gonna go over!

[RJF1966]

@orkneymist i found some sea trials of the CVN-76 the reagan doing a hard to starport underfull power it put up some 50 footwave and turned alot tighter than you would think a 100,000 ton warship could i was like oh my god it was taken down a few days after...probably because we arent supposed to that they can move like that :)

[sillu55]

bufff! como debe de ir la tripulacion ahi dentro con ese giro.me mareo yo de pensarlo

[dayvidob]

i think i got sick just looking at this lol

[redexpman]

This brings back memories from the USS Port Royal (CG-73)

And to the post that said the sprucans were faster and handled better, you are incorrect. The CG's were lighter and faster than the old DG's. The upper decks are aluminum and not steel. There were also engineering changes made to the later CG's to help achieve higher speeds more efficiently.

[MikeJ6129]

I can remember back in the day onboard the San Jacinto during high speed manuvers the Xo calling up to the bridge from the wardroom and telling the skipper "we're breaking plates !" and the captain saying "dammit !, we'll just buy some more !"

[humanidt]

ships have a handbrake?

[seanboud]

Top heavy beast...the Sprucans handled MUCH better and were faster to boot.

[amorrison1]

The Captain's is a drifting fan!

[WatchItShatter]

rally car of the see

[aerand]

How to do drift, at sea. The captain must be a rally car fan...

[wahiawabriank]

@aerand Yeah true! These types of ships are the best at this type of stuff! It is awesome to be on them when they maneuver like this!

[thadutchguy]

@wahiawabriank Aren't these moves emergency moves in the Navy?

[itr835]

@wahiawabriank

...especially on the mast! :)

served on CG-57 USS LKC and CG-67 USS SHILOH

[devildoc225]

There used to be a term many years back that some on here may remember "All ahead Bendix". Bendix was the company that used to make the engine telegraphs. The name "Bendix" used to be on the lower portion on the older surface combatants. When the order for "All ahead flank" was given,if you were able to push the telegraph over anymore, you would of hit the word "Bendix". Thats where the phrase came from. The Arleigh Burkes, Tico's, and Spru-Cans can go faster than that.

[drumteacherjason]

this is an evasive maneuver used by most ships

[naxps]

That ship's a beast!

[Boochlaroo]

Royal Navy...They brought a Sub to Groton for a port call and they spray painted "THe Royal Navy is the Only Navy" on their shore power box. What a bunch of sore loosers. I mean we did kick their asses out of America didn't we.

[TrapShooter123]

Lmao, you could see people on the back leaning against the tilt xD

[xmobster5]

US navy best of the best!

[jamiehn123]

Royal Navy FTW

[VIsrf]

the ticonderogas are pretty sick ships.

[myfeeling4you]

It's good to know some people can see what I see and think when you see this ship turning!

Call me nieve but i never knew a ship could do 30 knots, thats the speed some half cabin cruisers ( 15 to 20 feet long) can do with say a 100hp motor. Bloody amazing the capabilities of the mordern engines in these ship.

[DrRockso99]

@myfeeling4you Faster than that even. US Destroyers can hit 33 to 34 knots, and the carriers are 1100 feet long, and weigh over 100 thousand tons, and are even faster.

[myfeeling4you]

have never seen a ship look so tall and narrow and yet so short, judging by the vid. It had quite some lean there, looked as if it was listing

[PegsEP]

when you are going 30 knots the ship rolls hard on a turn like that

[csslayman]

You obviously never heard of Adm. "32 Knots" Burke and his DD's in the Southern Pacific. It's a small thing called centrifigal motion that causes the lean on fast turns,

Ex A(V)N.

[PegsEP]

what does my comment have to do with me being wrong? I think my statement compliments the video just fine. By the way I was on an Arleigh Burke Class destoryer so I think I have a pretty good idea whats going on. I think you are probably full of your self.



EX Tin Can sailor

[navy57]

@csslayman

He was Arleigh "31 Knots" Burke. As COMDESRON 23 during WWII his senior commander sent ahim a mesage asking "What are you doing?" Burke's response was " 31 Knots"

[Baronstone]

Trust me when I tell you that the damn thing feels like its going to flip over!

:)

[courtneybliss21]

I was stationed on the Monterey (cg61) i used to love driving the boat

[chicago579]

I was stationed on that damm thing, great ship..better crew

[237KMT]

Damn, that thing sure looks expensive.

[Gulfstorm75]

About a billion dollars, give or take.

[Tinnesen89]

cool,that was a impressive turn,didnt know that such a big ``boat`` could do that..

[mattmatt115]

@Tinnesen89 It was a great anti-torpedo tactic back in the days of "point and shoot" torpedos... Now adays, this is mostly useful for breaking formation in an emergency situation, i cant see much other use as divebombers are slightly obsolete, along with the point and shoot torpedos... Not to mention supersonic sea skimming missiles can easily compensate for a 30 knot turn.. Although, such a turn would help in the case of bringing both Phalanx to bear on a certain trajectory..

[Tinnesen89]

@mattmatt115 hmm, soo cool

[6irondriver]

That's some water displacement now dammit.

[MissileMaster]

Nice vid!

[blueb0g]

it's a good vid, just because you don't like it dosn't mean other people don't

[saadisawesome]

wow thats an amazing right turn

[TheImperialNinjA]

thats amazing

[ReconStatus]

johnhar you must be some ignorant old fuck who owns a little rinky dink 18' bay boat....but other then that this is a standard training run...its called evasive maneuvering and exactly what grimpath said...this ship can turn mutch more sharper turns

[johnhar271]

well stand inside an object that wieghs tons and see how your light wieght body reacts during things like that. He almost rolled his boat over,also this is about the 4th vid I've seen from the navy. I guess all you need to captain a boat in the navy is time in service and not auctual captain skills. I wouldnt let this "skipper" wash the deck on my boat...much less operate it

[grimpath]

You do realize that that ship can turn even sharper than that right?

[navalaviator92]

you realize they do these kind of manouvers all the time and cruiser like the vellla gulf have a special ballast system to prevent it from capsizing. ut tiny lil boat cant handle sh*t like this abd to be a captain you must have really good leadership skills and all this other crap. U dont know the first thing about being a captain in the navy compared to being a captain of a 24' motorboat

[johnhar271]

Well first off swabbie...while my boat may not be as big as this one...its a bit bigger than 24 feet, I've run a lot bigger boats and my license is plenty big enough for the one one the vid. As far as special ballast goes...blow smoke up someone elses ass, you think their is a pump that can transffer hundreds or thousands of tons of ballast in seconds. You are a retard. All one needs in the military (I served twice) is time in and to be a good boy. I had to auctually prove I can handle boats

[johnhar271]

if you will pick up a history book you'll learn that a rank does not mean you know what your doing. I found many vids on you tube showing navy boats doing stupid shit that could cost them thier jobs. I've worked boat (all kinds in all waters) for over 25 years...dont tell me shit about boats

[navalaviator92]

well first off all US Navy boats have a ballast system to keepi it a float and second of all my dad has been in the navy for 36 years and i pretty sure he knows more than you.

[navalaviator92]

and wat did u do in the navy, wash dishes and cook?

[Deneb1968]

Am I missing something? The boat is doing about 35 mph and manages to turn through maybe 100 degrees in 30 seconds with a list of around 10 to 15 degrees. It's hardly Gforce territory (try it in your car!) I agree the stresses on the boat itself would be huge - but for the humans inside I can't see where the "rush" comes in to it. Boys and their toys anyone?

Maximum list as far as I can see is no more than 10 degrees.

[bluntedboy]

RN orders probably did or still do differ from USN orders. A good example would be the movie Hunt For Red October. Tom Clancy did his research before writing the novel and the quote from the movie was "Right Full Rudder, Reverse Starboard Engine". USN ships have a helmsman and lee helmsman. The helmsman "used to" repeat the orders back to the OOD. "Right 5 degrees rudder, coming to course 140, checking ***". The checking part was the conversion from the gyrocompass course vs magnetic.

[SebastianBach99]

That last one was meant to be a reply to a dumb comment about a year ago...

[blobofrob]

you would almost think that this should be classified material. ?

[planethaven]

cool

[maddyb91]

HEY< THATS A 20,000 ton Warship, not a Fighter Jet!!! holyfuck!!!

[pukaman2000]

I thought the Navy sucked, but then, I was a nuclear snipe and had to work my ass off. 4 and 8 WITH a work day (16 hour days). Port and starbord was actually easier duty. The navy broke a lot of rules on our ship. The pay was not good. Three guys tried to kill themselves. And this was during peace time.

[kadathdreamques]

It wasn't the Navy dufus, it was your commanding officers. It's obvious why you are not still in the navy.

[pukaman2000]

I was asked by my chief what it would take to get me to reenlist. I looked at him straight in the eyes and said "A severe blow to the head." I believe that might have something to do with why I'm not still in.

[taylor1129611]

I miss being at sea after seeing this! SH2 (SW) RYAN.... USS HALYBURTON FFG-40, USS ASHLAND LSD-48, USS MOUNT WHITNEY LCC-20 1994-2004 had the best time in the Navy.

[needlenitz18]

thanks for serving us

[svillethomas]

lol well we know everyones stuff fell out of their bunk on that one.

[zach071591]

I assume ships have stabalizers?

[sixteenfire]

some ships have fin stabilizers but some don't when doing maneuvers you turn the fin's off they are there mainly to stabilize the ship when firing weapons missiles and 5 in

[IvanStrelnikov]

dood, who was her ferrari-driving former pilot captain at the time? and what command does he hold now?

[potosi2]

u know ever one dogs the navy bet i bet that shit is pretty fun

[elreservista]

What happends? McDonals a babor¿?

[kdmdiver]

OMG!!! I think I was there for that... When exactly was that taken???

[caliaviator07]

It's obviously a naval exercise with the purpose of chasing and running over the dolphins that swim infront of the forecastle. :)

[hey138]

man nothing made me happier then running over a few whales! them was good eatin

[caliaviator07]

lol almost as good as filet of boondocker. Hey138. Looks like we offended a few people, all in a day's work.

[drott5]

Now that's what ya call, 'Hard Helm Over and Come About'.

[renoamy]

cool I was on the Vella Gulf from 1996 to 2000 GMS 3 Blanchfield, Reno. It very cool to see that ship again, Go Navy

[wahiawabriank]

cool, thanks for the post

[Rallscrawls]

wow

[DavetheDopeMan]

Not to make anyone upset here....Master helmsman...USS O'Bannon (DD-987)..and yes..."Hard Right Rudder" was the terminolgy used for the greyhounds....I can't comment on the other services..ie: Merchants, Civ, Etc...Big Big Rush

As far as the use of Rudders vs shaft steering both can achieve the same results, but its a real big rush to run in at 30+ knots and yank it over and grab the rail while trying to hold the helm.....

[bluntedboy]

DavetheDopeMan...of the USS has been cut up for razor blades. Master Helmsman is a person who is really, really good at being told which course to steer. In other words, able to block out all that pesky brain activity and just do as your told. You stand some watches on the bridge, then aft steering, and tada- you are master helmsman. I'd like to see you actually dock a boat, or navigate from point a to point b.

[goochchris]

O'yah I forgot to tell you that ship can make that turn while doing high speed runs,and trust me you do walk on bulkheads,but the true test is trying to stay at the helm wheel,while on a 40+ degree angle,and screw stearing isint needed,for that turn,and it has 2-8'dia. screws,and 2 huge rudders.

[goochchris]

helmsmen,right full rudder,bring the ship about to heading 150... right full rudder eye,bringing the ship about to heading 150.the memories this brought back,I am part of the origonal crew of the u.s.s. vella gulf.I was there for sea trials,I got the honors of driveing that ship 1-2 a day for 2 years,I am a true TURBO DOG,that drove that ship through hurricane andrew.

[bluntedboy]

goodchris...I wouldn't brag about driving a ship through a hurricane. Holding a wheel and taking orders from an OOD is not driving a ship, it is simply following orders. Putting an E1-E3 behind the wheel of a ship is the Navy way of making a sailor feel important. In essence you are a autopilot that can easily be replaced by a computer.

[Scott11078]

I was on the O'Kane a DDG and yeah hardover is pretty badass!

[agrigorof]

It should say "hard to starboard" not "hard right". Also, I guess this vessel has 2 or 3 propellers, you cannot achieve that kind of turn just with the rudder.

[yellowtail3]

right full rudder, agrigorof. I'l speculate you've not spent any time on the bridge (or anywhere else at sea) and have no first-hand familiarly with what the OOD says. And of course you can turn hard with rudders alone. Steering with screws is overrated.

[agrigorof]

I've spent time on bridge...years, on ALL the oceans - so your specuation was way off. But it was as a Deck Officer in the Merchant Marine and that's the term used there. You would be ridiculed to say "right" instead of "starboard".

[bluntedboy]

agrigorof...Let me give you a little historical perspective. On the RMS Titanic, the ships wheel would turn the opposite direction of the rudder. Hard-a-Starboard would turn the ship to Port. One of the reasons the deck orders were changed to right and left rudder. Nobody would be ridiculed to say right when referring to a steering command, since that is the order given. I know you have never been a deck officer aboard a ship nor in the MSC.

[SebastianBach99]

Nonsense! Port and Starboard are used as more precise than Left or Right on any ship, because P and S are defined as L and R when looking forward. So doesn't matter which way you are facing when someone says to look out to port, you know where to look.

Wheel to port puts rudder to port and ship turns to port. "Hard-a-port" and "hard-a-starboard" do what they say - on ANY ship with a wheel. Only helm that goes opposite is a boat with a tiller. I was QM on HMS Diamond. Bluntedboy is ignorant.

[bluntedboy]

Sebastian, before you type, you should do a little research. The wheel did turn the opposite direction aboard the HMS Titanic. Quite a few sailing schooners also have a "stern facing" opposite turning wheel. I know my port and starboard, we are discussing steering orders issued by the OOD. Right and Left are also used to distinguish steering commands from lookout information. I will also not resort to childish name calling. Must be a Quartermaster thing.

[SebastianBach99]

OOPS - thanks for the correction! And sorry about the name thing - I had a fit of the grumps - my apologies.

But the deck orders in the RN, unlike USN, are still - or WERE some years back - port and starboard, not left and right. Typical exchange: OOD "Starboard ten." QM "Starboard ten"..."ten of starboard wheel on" (i.e. rudder angled right 10 degrees. OOD "Midships" QM "Midships..wheel's amidships" (rudder straight) OOD: "Steer 140" QM "Steer 140" (adjusts as necessary).."Course 140."

[SebastianBach99]

Did not have room for this in my other reply, but Mark Twain nailed it.."It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."

Yup.

[wahiawabriank]

Oh yes it is! Nothing like not being able to walk and having to hold on to something so you don't slide all the way down to the other side of the ship! Only bad part is during chow!

[sherlockj28]

simply beautiful

[ordoqui]

Yea... That's Fun! Try Being On The Portside O3 Level..

[LyteWave]

That thing has the turning radius of a battleship...oh, wait...

[bluntedboy]

oh, wait... You were going to say it is a battleship? Nope, it is a CG...Cruiser Guided Missile. 563 feet long, an Iowa class battleship is 887 feet long and would have a much larger turning radius.

[JuggaloTheRolla]

Ticonderoga Class

[heathinjersey]

Being on the helm doing that is mind blowing

[cold409]

I was only a cook but I got a chance to be on the brige at a high speed break away and I know its a rush.

[Eagle9198]

I love that feeling especialy at flank speeds