Vivica Genaux "Sposa, son disprezzata" Bajazet Vivaldi Live

[CHANTAL1747]

un horror asquerosa sin ideas musicales coherentes apesta!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lili031176]

Thanks for posting this version : it really made me open my honrizont : all the possible versions of this fantastic song which is usually sad and desperate here it becomes enraged and so terribly exhalhing !

[febronius1]

ima nešto posebno u njenom glasu,nešto mekano,tekuće,prepoznajem je i sviđa mi se

[febronius1]

ima nešto posebno u njenom glasu,nešto mekano,tekuće,preporznajem je i sviđa mi se

[6969gege]

Je vote pour + le meilleur bajazet que j'ai entendu jusqu’à aujourd'hui.

[clatnt]

non c'è cuore non c'e sentimento, non c'è emozione......sembra uno scolaretto che ripete a memoria una poesia,,,,,,,,,,,,non c'è incanto!

[carlosLor]

@clatnt ti pesto...

[giorgioot]

più l'ascolto e meno mi convince!! non so ancora il perchè ....approfondirò .... intanto ribadisco non è assolutamente un mezzosoprano ....

[planthi80]

super~!

[newhotmailit]

mah....non mi emoziona come la versione della bartoli...non ce n'è!!! W CECILIA

[Mariaaaa8888]

Love it! Nice performance, but it is Gasparini's music. It's a great aria, really a piece of juel. And she sings it beautifully. Thanks for posting!!!

[humagris]

thank you for posting!!!!!

[alessludwig]

This is beautifully sung. Probably more faithful to the original than Bartoli's. However, Bartoli's version is just incredibly dense and powerful. I'd take them both!

[eliade66]

This version is played a little too fast, therefore reducing its intensity and dramatic character.

[baroquegeek]

I have never heard the full version. Thank you for this posting!

Bartoli/Genaux - I say apples and oranges here. They are both fruit and people will like one or the other or both. I like both but lean towards Genaux.

[dbertobis]

tanto talento sbattuto sulle durissime rocce della noia, che peccato

[NEMORINO1976]

It seems to me as an heroic aria... I dont feel the same about the time and caracter... great voice, by the way!

[GoldenAgeSunshine]

Very interesting but out of spirit! Tempi are too energetic, fast and skippy. This is a recital or light chamber orchestra aria composed for Venice's carnaval, not for a barocco orchestra ensemble! Genaux is great, but lost in the ocean of sound, with no pathos and understanding of Vivaldi's glorious, mellifluous and sensuous music. Too bad, but great vocal interpreation though.

[GoBogi]

Please get you hands on a score before you comment next time.

Maybe you are used to that slow crap that Bartoli sings, but this song is definitely not supposed to be that slow. Learn to read music, and get a score.

Also, the woman is outraged. The song deserves this tempo. I like how she sings it in a more "Baroque" fashion than Bartoli's catastrophe.

[Davccelion]

No mean to be rude, but, can you sing this better? I personally wouldn't do it more colorful as it already is...

[GoldenAgeSunshine]

I personnaly could, yes. But I hate comparisons. As a musicologist, I'm expressing my opinion, that's all. Genaux is a great, talented singer, but this sucks a little bit, sorry. Thanks for your comment. Best.

[GoBogi]

It's an aria of desperation. If a crack head for fiending for a pipe hit, do you think they will slowly walk up and down the street looking for a hit, or will they try desperately to find one as soon as possible? The aria sounds too much like a love song when sung too slowly (i.e. Bartoli). This rendition reeks of desperation.

Also, have you seen the score. For what reason do you think the aria is sung too fast?

[GoldenAgeSunshine]

Of course I know the score. All I'm saying it's too fast and I don't fully agree with the opening tempi and the initial velocity. It lacks sensuousness esp. in the vocal line. Even if vocally speaking it's peerless. It's a matter of personal taste and not interpretation. Enjoy!

[GoBogi]

Sensuousness? Serious... Irine is desperate, she not being sensuous. She's scorned.  The Tempi is fine. It's Largo for the A Section and Andante for the B Section. If you are a musicologist, you should be able to count beats.

[LaDivinaAriell]

@GoBogi: you are completely correct! Desperation is it. It's not meant to be a slow love song. The tempo here is therefore perfect.

[eliade66]

I perfectly agree with you, GoldenAge. The tempo is too fast here.

[LaDivinaAriell]

@eliade66: I think the tempo is perfect.

[eliade66]

@LaDivinaAriell

eliade66 @LaDivinaAriell

If you like it so, there is no problem. Cheers!

[LaDivinaAriell]

@eliade66 :-)

[thetuscanman]

I love Biondi's energetic, vigorous, stark conducting. Genaux has great trills and very good coloratura, but sings "fisso". In long-held notes she starts very fisso and gives some vibrato only at the very end of the note. Some claim this was the way Baroque singers used to sing, but I don't like it.

[GoBogi]

Vibrato was an ornament in the Baroque period. People didn't start singing with vibrato on every tone until the 20th century.

The convention back then was as you stated. They didn't put Vibrato on every note, and only used it as a way to keep a note alive or ornament the music. There used to be notations in the music to say when vibrato should be used (like "tr" for trill, for example).

This is not bel canto. Sorry.

[hautecontrre]

Bull shit!

Non-vibrato was connected with medieval and renessance, but not barocco.

[GoBogi]

Please do some research. Vibrato was an ornament in Baroque era music.  All documentation from great composers of that era frown upon continuous vibrato. They found it unattractive and it made it hard to distinguish trills from the vibrato. Vibrato was to be used on long, sustained notes and at the end of phrases, not on every note. Constant Vibrato didn't really become a fad until the late 19th/early 20th century.

Bye.

[GoBogi]

I would also like to point out that the method of breath control that was taught back then was more conducive to singing without vibrato. Today singers are taught breath control techniques that introduce vibrato as a natural component of the voice. This was not done back then. Do not imagine Farinelli singing this aria with a continuous vibrato. It would never happen, not in that era of singing. HIPs of this aria will not have it sung with a continuous vibrato.

[duguuu]

i like this aria... it's very sad i think...

[Gorosofurioso]

Sincerely, I like more the way in which Cecilia Bartoli sings this aria...

[margotlorena]

there is still something that I dont like about her voice and I cant tell exactly what it is...

[nkliewer]

All-around simply wonderful. Beautifully and expressively sung -- and I really like Maestro Biondi's interpretation. It brings fire and passion to a piece that is too often left wanting. Bravi. Thanks for posting.

[pydbl]

beautiful. This is the best live version from her.

[acanthe83]

Horrible, orchestre et voix. J'ai cru lire ailleurs que V Génaux avait du souffle : elle coupe ses phrases sans arrêt et son interprétation est à l'emporte pièce, sans raffinement ni sensibilité, mais outrageusement spectaculaire, comme celle de l'orchestre qui articule tellement, comme une batterie pop, que l'on ne sait plus ou est la mélodie

[operafan10]

I love this interpretation! I think you only judge this base in your poor know of this piece.

[lyrissimo]

On sent dans votre commentaire toute la haine que ressentent les "classiqueux' envers tout ceux qui ont fait renaître la musique baroque...

Si vous n'aimez pas passez votre chemin...

[acanthe83]

????? Est il possible de parler de qualité de l'interprétation? D'autre part, et sauf erreur, cet air est au moins depuis Parisotti un air de récital que les baroqueux n'ont pas "redécouvert". Et en quoi le fait de redécouvrir une oeuvre donne t il celui de la massacrer?

[traydb]

What's with the Musici I Crapola noise?

[arredifestivi]

strumentisti 10 e lode, la cantante zero voce.

[operafan10]

you are crazy, maybe you will need to listen more about vivica genaux! she is an excellent singer, listen..qual guerrier in campo armato!

[vegantrooper]

very interesting instrumentals. faster-paced than most interpretations. this has a particular flavour but it's not a bad one. this song often loses some life in forcing sadness into the picture. this song, however, is one of torment mixed with anger. props to both conductor and singer!!

[sebasarnhem]

OPNIEUW OPNIEUW OPNIEUW ik had niet in die zaal moeten zitten!! Zoveel tranen!

[lilithirishdancer]

oh!! está bien, es un punto de mira diferente. Para mi gusto es quizás demasiado brusco... esta canción es muy lamentativa, ella sufre la infidelidad de su esposo... no es tan enérgica, pero vaya está muy bien

[robles146]

Damn!!!! this is just amazing. I can feel some kind of rage in this interpretation, I can feel the anger... It's as good as cecilia bartoli's interpretation, only that ceclia's version transmits pain and suffering... I just love this piece.

[bettigyv]

@robles146 I agree with you.. but I find the version of Sumi Jo better :)

[datakaos]

tout a fait daccord.de vrais baroqueuses!!!

[quiffsthebanana]

@robles146 I imagine Bartoli's expresses pain and suffering because she had just finished her 12th consecutive espresso, which always seems to be the case... haha. Very talented, but always sounds a bit too frantic for me, especially when that's not what the text is meant to declaim, IMO.

[bf2019]

@robles146 This LIVE interpretation, and Cecila Bartoli's early version with the candlelight, & the piano....are the two best existing versions....(IMHO).... wienerfr thanks so much for posting...

here I really like how different Vivica makes the two halves of this piece....excellent

[bf2019]

@robles146 This LIVE interpretation (Vivica does some REALLY Visceral singing here), and Cecila Bartoli's early version with the candlelight, & the piano....(Her best Legato work) are the two best existing versions....(IMHO).... wienerfr thanks so much for posting... I really like how different Vivica makes the two halves of this piece....excellent!!! Bravo!!!

[Njamh]

Genial!!! Gorgeous!! Sublimeeeeee!!! I like it very much!!!! Thanks for posting this ^^

[callastoujours]

WOW! Really nice!! Thanks for posting.

[Gudrun74]

Great!

I'll attach the (original) Giacomelli version from May 2008. Poor audio quality, but I find she has even improved, her "Cieli, che feci mai" have even become more intensive. And there's a never-before-heard interval jump at min 8.

[viverito]

I love Vivica Genaux I saw her live in Berlin

[macmusikpro]

Nice! I would say Vivica still holds the true Baroque interterpretation. Along with some other artists. But she is one of the prolific ones.

Thanks for posting :)