Rev2Red Turbo Miata Passes Evo on Track

[TheBrandonWeir]

Miata will out-handle an evo any day.

[wlpresent]

great video. I dont get whats with all these stupid comments. the mere fact that he is keeping up with an evo is evidence of how great the miata is. It just shows you dont need a tonne of money to go fast or have fun.

[sti4lifer]

what kind of suspension are you running

[KisselJohnson]

It always cracks me up when I see braindead nascar rednecks calling miatas "fag" or "girly". Sounds like a case of homophobia, or need to compensate for lack of brain cells upstairs (and downstairs). I'll take on any of you rednecks in my FM Mazdaspeed MX-5 any day of the week... I'd rather have sake and sushi than Coors Lite and a Big Mac :) Then again, I guess taste is subjective... I'm not a fat, stupid sloppy American.

[wajalama]

@KisselJohnson It's even more hilarious when that "fag" or "girly" Miata smokes those "big boy" "manly" cars on the track XD

[iceveiled]

Cool video...looks like a fun car. What's with all the douchy comments?  Car enthusiasts should get along..who gives a fuck about who is faster. It's about fun. Shut the fuck up and drive.

[nandoyesi]

I have owned a S2000, Boxter S, and now a miata. The miata has been the car with the most fun factor. sure its not as fast but its so much more rewarding to drive.

Also i notice some saying how the driver was jerking the steering wheel during the curves and that it is due to weak driving....umm ya they obviously have not driven on a track all balls out.... check out Keiichi Tsuchiyas TOUGE driving and you will see whats up

[partyboy41]

I think Sidewaymx5 is hustler :D

[Justin0124]

you guys are fags, drive a miata on a road course before you talk shit

[Sidewaymx5]

How sad the Turbo guys don't have a leg to stand on. I see that 230~250 HP only gets a slow 13.6 or 13.7 qtr. mile. Turbo Miatas can onlys brag about passing an EVO on a Sunday drive. Looks like this car was built for the Dyno only. Lets see you pass a Evo in a real TT. Scared to get spanked. Going slow makes you guys happy so be it. Whats the qtr. mile time on this slow car. A 14.5 or slower I bet. Turbo's are a joke on a Miata. LOL!!!

[11jstedm]

I agree. people are worried about their stock miata blocks holding a measly ~170 whp, and a 4G63T has done what on a stock block? like 550 whp?

stock miata rods: 0-----{]

stock 4G63 rods: 0==={]]

now maybe the retards can understand why turbos on a miata is a utter joke.

[williamjamesfrost]

Actually, 300 flywheel bhp is possible on a stock miata with decent cooling/management.

Not bad considering its not even supposed to be a turbocharged engine :)

I admit the 4g63 is a very impressive engine but its not designed for the same use as a miata so its not fair to compare them...

also 170hp in a miata feels like the 300 odd in an evo, its all about the fun factor of driving the car for me...

[williamjamesfrost]

Also on the engineering side of things, believe it or not some people (like me) enjoy designing their own turbo kits and the miata is a very good base for this and very cheap to buy parts for.

In fact I believe the Mx5/Miata/eunos is the MOST popular selling sportscar of ALL time !!!!! Just look up the production numbers compared to those of the evo :p. thats because of its bombproof reliability, great handling, and fun nature.

[williamjamesfrost]

If your in it to boast or try to impress people with your 0-60 times etc just go and buy a caterham r500 or a superbike...

[SamuliS]

Specially when miatas engine is from 323gtx thats 4x4 turbo car.. But hey, each to their own.

[KisselJohnson]

@11jstedm

Ignorant. My MX-5 was 176 hp STOCK, with a factory turbo! Less than $9,000 in mods lets my rig blow yours out of the water. Get used to it :) Sounds more like penis envy.

[ZyklonB95]

LOL, what a retard. Where is Hustler when you need him to skull fuck this fool.

This video always makes me happy. This is probably the approximate power level I'm going to have to start with on the stock rods until I get my other engine built. I guess I should just go with a coldside supercharger though, I wouldn't blow up then...

[Sidewaymx5]

Just as I expected , more excuses. Boost it up to 15 psi and use race tires and I'd bet all you Turbo Miata guys are slow. Oh wait maybe you're motor won't blow. Stick to HPDE where you belong or the Turbo forum for Miatas. Coldside SC is the way to go!

[uf4ggo]

fag

[levnubhin]

Rev, look at his name. He likes the slow way around corners anyway.

[levnubhin]

Sidewaymx5, Are you for real? If you are your a moron.

[Sidewaymx5]

Turbo Miatas are so overrated. They need a stroker kit to go fast & lucky if the engine holds up over a year. This is one slow Miata that wants attention but should stay in HPDE with novices.

[rev2redcom]

okay tough guy. This car dynoed at exactly 145 peak rwtq the day before the video was taken, I was running low boost (6psi), on 195/60/14 street tires, and it's pretty much the most basic kit one could slap together under $1500.

If you need a 2.0L stroker to go fast; you're doing it wrong.

[87SuperCooper]

@Sidewaymx5 I don't know man..... I'm at almost 400hp in my 92... I did my build WITHOUT a stroker kit, and it has held up at 22 lbs boost for 3 years... Daily driven, AND track time...

[sagarajack]

that rx7 at end took off nasty

[rm2racer]

Nice driving! This looks like fun.

[yuletak]

Nice. That's what I hope to be putting to the ground after my Begi kit install.

[sonyericson20]

dam man thast some nice driving hows the turbo holdin up? how mcuhd u pay for it? o and if it isnt fitted with a limmited slip differental you should get one improves ahndling a lot on wet surfaces and when you are carrying heavy stuff but that is some nice driving and wow with only 170 hp nice

[tactical321]

this makes me feel 10x better that i got a msm instead of the evo.

[AkarZaephyr]

Nice driving :)

I would love to have more tracks likt this in Poland.

Anyway, nice to see Miata rolling that good :)

PS: You have the same radio/cd as me in my Miata :D

[sumlar20]

Looks like a lot fun! Nice driving!

[4ndyh3inrich]

at times it looks like he is struggling with the steering wheel. Is that power assisted or is it manual steering?

[rev2redcom]

Struggling? Not that I remember. My Azenis got slippery (this was a +100*F Aug day, video is the last 8:00 of a 15min session), at 4:05 I almost lost the rear.

The car had power steering, it was almost too easy. At +130mph on the straight it felt like the steering was non-existent, suffice to say my new miata has a manual rack.

[4ndyh3inrich]

oh, alright. It 0:24 in it looks like your yanking on the steering wheel. Must just be good smooth driving. Finess means lower lap times!

[wazawizam]

it looks like it's raining. I want 2 get a mx5...

[brassdg]

Great job, but for everybody dissin how much an EVO costs, yeah, I would hope a vehicle that is 11 yrs old costs less. And peeps don't forget what car currently holds the tsukuba record.

[ShiroChronicle]

thank you =)

[legendNdamaking]

The skyline gt-r?

[brassdg]

INFO wikepedia:

# 1st place- #13 M-Speed R34 Nissan Skyline GT-R (Best Lap: 55.23sec, Top Speed: 227.282 km/h)

# 2nd place- #1 Cyber Evo CT9A Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution (Best Lap: 55.864sec, Top Speed: 220.678 km/h)

----------but--------

HKS USA website: HKS EVO TRB-02 54.739

[carmodifire]

now its an nsx.

[klutchmaster]

Hooray for the underdog miata. I love to see a miata whoopin an evo.

[swagger93]

wow--cleaned up that 951

[dtmamg]

cool miata bro. the shear sound of the wind, hard to hear the engine and the turbo. but i bet it handles better then evo. lightweight and RWD. well anywayz. camera mount needs to be adjusted. cool video though.

[ksbell27]

i currently have a evo and before owned a beautiful 10th ae and soon i plan to get another miata in the future to have w/the evo. these cars are alike to me handling wise. evo's steering is quicker but very very similar to a miata..

[DemoFly]

All this talk about which is better. I really don't care. The miata is still rockin it with the top down.

[nemisis91]

also not every1 can afford an evo so a cheaper car is around with formidible handling

[nemisis91]

every1 has there own opinion stop fighting it doesnt matter racing or not the miata passed the evo just like in the description he never said miata smokes evo or evo sucks he jus passed 1.

[ztunelover]

in a circuit race the very best is a r34 skyline gtr. The driver of this miata was really good and that evo probably lifted at the straight given it probably still has a better power to weight ratio than this miata. before u all hate on me know I believe other than the lotus elise or exige s(too expensive) miatas are the best for autocross.

[chrisjunior1]

what country is that in?? i'd like to take my miata on that track.

[hughtwg]

West Virginia about 1 hour from Washington DC.

[youngonesunique]

miata's are monsters on the track.. they are like... bigger go carts.. just underpowered thats all.. crazy in the corners

[downset]

EVO<MIATA<FD

teehee nice vid.. double wishbones FTW

[MacOSXrulez]

The Evo driver wasn't even trying hard

[standj21]

have you ever driven a miata? mine will easly out drive an evo, and I hate to shater your ego, these guys I pass don't slow down at all. put your bias away and go drive a mx5 you will find that its not all about 4WD. its just that you think 2D.

[MacOSXrulez]

again, shut up already, a new McPherson suspension is better than a '93 old double wish-bone and 4WD is better than 2WD, Evo is a better car, 'nuff said

[standj21]

miata uses bilstien suspension by the way. dude go drive one fo real I'm telling you, you wont belive how much better it feels I'm not gonna say its a better car I will say that there are far more pro's concerning the mx-5, but unless you drive one you will never know for sure. and stop being such a Duche bag about it.

[MacOSXrulez]

look man, Blisten is a great suspension but the old ones are not better than a new McPherson suspension and i do know that Miatas are good cars (for people that like to have fun but it's not the best car in terms of speed) but i prefer Evos and Evos are better cars

[porkblapper]

money to speed ratio is far better in the miata this car can be built for maybe 5k less if you get good deals, bring a miata to 20k and it will step on evos, a friend of mine has the fm built engine and the fmII turbokit w/ gt37r iirc. and 300+ rwhp in a car that weighs around 2100lbs is insane

me i like evos, i would buy an sti over one and i have driven both but there is just something about the feel of a miata

[MacOSXrulez]

are you forgetting that the Evo also has better handling cause it's 4WD and has a better suspension, the Evo driver wasn't even racing, he let you pass, so in other words, the Evo is a better car in both straights and corners even though the Miata weights less

[nbw86]

simply having "AWD" doesnt equate to better handling. The term 'handling' covers way more area's then it's power delivery on exit. Evo having better suspension? I didn't know McPherson strut front susp were superior to double-wishbone. Not to mention the extra 1000lb's the EVO is pushing around and that it is very front heavy.

[nbw86]

*continued*

EVO was stock, miata was -far- from it and this was only an HPDE which means that there will be a many drivers on the track at that are on entirely different driving abilities and confidence levels.

[Nateb123]

You got a point, but think of the cost difference of the two cars. The miata is still waaaay cheaper than the Evo even though it clearly is modded. Evos aren't bad cars, jsut compared a miata, not exactly cost-effective.

[MacOSXrulez]

but anyways, the Evo driver just let him pass, so that he wouldn't feel bad about his car being slow and the Evos stock suspension is better than the old Miata one, and what matters is that the Evo is a better car in all ways than the Miata

[standj21]

I Guess thats why you see all the articles in the car mags about Miatas more so than lancer evo? by the way I just love the evo's superior rusy cast iron headers that are like 50 lbs, and the 70/30 weight distrbution is far better than the mx-5's 50/50 you may argue the evo having more power and more torqe, but please dont try to look like an idiot with this evo is a better hadling hence better car thing its just not gonna work.

[MacOSXrulez]

shut up already, Evo is a better car, end of story

[standj21]

"the story continues" Sorry but it is not I've drivin both as a driver i can tell you the evo is a much better car off road the mx-5 is much better on the road and overall qality Mazda is better than mitsubishi. I'm sorry you may really like evo's for what ever reason, but I'm just giving you my non bias oppinion.

[porkblapper]

its not 4wd its all wheel drive, and front biased at that meaning its fwd till one of the tires slip then it will transfer UP TO 40% of the power to the rear wheels, evos understeer for that very reason, hell the gallardo understeers even though its MR setup because of the awd,

and obviously you havent been on a track because yes he let up because he was getting owned in the corners, if you dont let someone pass in that scenario you can and will be removed from the track by the officials

[iamElijah]

he obviously let you pass that time. each time you hit a straight at the same distance behind he spanked you.

[rev2redcom]

correct, it's a faster car....in the straights. I was very underpowered comparatively.

also it's a HDPE, notice no one passes without a point? As soon as I go past turn 1 I'm faster throughout the rest of the track.

[mtncrvr00]

Owned :-P nice driving rev2red

[sqd8r]

corner for corner the miata will win.

[lazzer408]

the evo waved him on

[rev2redcom]

it's only an HPDE, driver must wave a pass...notice I didnt pass most of the slower cars untill certain spots.

I've talked to a friend of the EVO driver, he said once he let me by, he couldn't keep up.

[harvurd]

The little Miata hustles. Nice.

[surferyo]

wow! it sounds soo quiet!

[rev2redcom]

I got plenty of comments from bystanders that said I was passing all these cars but the didn't hear it. I still have 2.25" catback with a large muffler. Just a tad louder than stock. Intake is louder than exhaust.

[30hourpunch]

the miata is such a great handling stock, so throw in a little suspension work and you'll have a car that will pull over 1.0 g lateral acceleration. The evo and the sti are way overrated. case in point evo gets passed by a rwd miata shortly after exit of corner.

[vvind]

yo rev2red,, niceeeee

i was wondering whats better for a miata?

turbo or a supercharger?

im planning to get a miata soon hopeufly this month

it will probably be stock, and then ill mod it but dont know where to start i dont have a whole lot of money to mod it yet but soon will cause im working=p

tell me what are some basic things i can do to a miata to get it better

well if you could private msg me that be coo

thanks

miata rox=p

later man

[movingzachb]

suspension FIRST learn about it from the ground up. Get some Konis and learn learn learn. You can ad a super charger cheaply - a jrsc m45 will give you PLENTY of power and you will beat many cars with just that.

[BBoiANticZ]

evo driver is taking the turns too slow and driving like a pussy

[i2aventhegod]

lets see u take turns quick with n evo. you'll end up goin straight.

[fryhawk]

excuses make him faster?

[youngonesunique]

no.. evo's oversteer not understeer

[Rockit181]

This is Summit Point Raceway isn't it? Haha every1 can say what they want about Miatas being girly cars, fact is they can be made pretty quick, especially in the corners.

[GTR35Nate]

The EVO guys is driving like its his first car. That doesn't count.. Nice job though...

[movingzachb]

PFFT

[94miata]

nice job rev2red!!! see you on the forums ;)

[miataman89]

what year is that maita? i know its a 1.6 but im asking because im about to turbo my 1.6 and im worried about putting too much power on the short nose crank built in 89 -91

by the way... beating the evo... OMGZ dude that its the rox!! i like how you wave at everyone you pass lol good times.

also.. that track looks HUGE where is that?

[slamminator]

it's a 1993

[kil112112]

aa its a miata 1.6 with a turbo :D i can here the blow of falve

[blackjackwabam]

wat yr was ur miata???

[ninjagod1337]

Lol, I bet that feels pretty fucking awesome.