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  • @halflinks If you listen carefully, no where does she say that the product "cures" cancer. but has that the acai berry has antioxidants that help aid in cancer cell destruction, as proven in the mentioned research study. You need to go back to school. People like you make me laugh.

  • i love monavie ! :)

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  • If you are interested in getting the full details as to what is involved here at MonaVie

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  • 23 people cant taste crap

  • my dad sells it. its delicious and i love it

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  • I've been taking the juice for my joints and more energy. You want real?My joints stopped hurting after 3 days, I sleep better than I have in years and am waking up ready to pop out of bed. My sex drive is way up and my bowl movements are not only way more regular but don't have much smell either! I went to the bathroom 5 times the second day and I have never felt this way. I decided to either let my distributorship expire or get on the wagon train...

  • This stuff is the real deal and the message they deliver is promising!

  • Seems as though RadioRecordDiscord guy dislikes Christians, profit and having fun helping people. And the use of the "f" bomb is so intelligent. Not a MonaVie  user as yet, but a huge fan of making a living helping people and having a great time doing it. I wonder how many people it took to kid-nap RadioButt and take him to the MonaVie event. Please protect your children from MonaVie T-shirts and CD's. And be especially aware of Christians selling self-help books. Ohhhhhhh the horror!!!!

    CW

  • just another snake oil, they're not selling juice, they sell hope of success. These guys make a ton of money off of the distributor's in the form of t-shirts, juice, cds, selfhelp books on public speaking. i was a guest at seminar and guests get in free but the paying distributor's have to pay! They even sell shots of the stuff that all these people apparently have crates of. They cater to Christians and constantly make quackery claims, FUCK OFF just drink acai juice from the store.

  • @RadioRecordDiscord So i take it you never tryed Monavie, if you did you would be talking a diffrent talk

  • just another snake oil, they're not selling juice, they sell hope of success. These guys make a ton of money off of the distributor's in the form of t-shirts, juice, cds, selfhelp books on public speaking. i was a guest at seminar and guests get in free but the paying distributor's have to pay! They even sell shots of the stuff that all these people apparently have crates of. They cater to Christians and constantly make quackery claims, FUCK OFF just drink acai juice from the store.

  • @wilatemodel You're just poor.

  • Oprah does NOT endorse this. Check the Oprah site, search for MonaVie on that site.

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  • If you want to be in the MLM biz, go check out maveventure(dot)com

    You have no inventory, you don't need to qualify and the best is that you have nothing to sale but only to give. When consumers use it ( and they do quite a lot. 4 billions times in the US in 2010 to be exact ) you get a commission. So why bother ? Go the easy way.

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  • Life changing video on TEAM/Monavie! It's a must watch

    search youtube for "Contacted to join team monavie by an orrin woodward leadership guru!" It will change your life.

  • If you would like to purchase your own stock of MONAVIE we have 40$ for a bottle and 250$ for 8 where u save more for bigger purchases up to 70$

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  • @bloodhooun34 anybody that pays $40 a bottle 4 this crap needs to have their head examined.

  • If you would like to purchase your own stock of MONAVIE we have 40$ for a bottle and 250$ for 8 where u save more for bigger purchases up to 70$

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  • If you like to support rich persons with small penesis you should buy and drink it

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  • The truth of MLM = 1% rich , 99% fail and lose money

  • MLM = SCAM

  • @Happyrougestatus

    I have seen you post the same comment on three differant monavie videos. You must have no life.

  • i want to sale monavie too how i can do sale here in singapore?

  • Monavie is biggest scam ever, and in MLM nobody but top 1% make money

  • Monavie is biggest scam ever, and in MLM nobody but top 1% make moeny

  • the hierarchical marketing recruitment incentivization program that distributes an incredibly expensive product in a very shady way that does no more for you than eating a handful of blueberries everyday

  • Its in your head people, if you believe something enough it will be true, at least to you that is. If I believe that santa is real, like really believe it then he will be real to me. Monavie will not do anything for you if you do not believe simple truth its juice and thats all it is. Just like my star dust that can make you live forever, this is just another way to make money "Legally" but not always rightfully.

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  • I love MonaVie =D

  • Drink it and share it! Show you right!

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  • what a load of fucking garbage, such fucking quackery. i like how this video puts Oprah's name on this when she doesnt even support the product, you guys are idiots. there is NO scientific evidence that proves this product does anything. Dr. OZ even said it himself, this product dos not do eve half of the things it claims.

  • @erosensai The monavie pulse is scientifically proven and the combination of the fruit are FDA approved.

  • @dramaqueenlp link me the proof please.

  • @erosensai but it taste good!

  • 6000 thousand of these type business have come and gone over the past 50 years, yet only one MLM still out last them all. Amway. Call me when MonaVie is gone in 5 years.

  • @crfranchises1 learn how to type, and maybe I will listen

  • @crfranchises1 Actually Team Monavie was in team quixtar/amway and they left because of their immoral business practices.

  • @dramaqueenlp I could believe that, I can also believe a guy on my football team who said he was put on some kind of monthly order system, a case a month for $150 a month. I sold Noni for a while, another "Super Fruit" similar to Monavie. Once your product floods the market and found in every GNC, Vit Shop, Walmart, Cosco, ect your market share will drop. The challenge then is what separates you from your competitors.

  • @crfranchises1 I respect every aspect of what you do but if there is any thing that will be around for ever and owners of a company that has true integrity then i'd gladly ask youto take a look at what im doing we are changing the world jrc.kyani.net for 150 you get yourself a month supply of what we call the Kyani Health pack.

  • monavie-proprietary blend..why would you consume a product when you dont know exactly what is in the can?

  • Monavie for life! I just became a monavie distributor and im loving it. Either become a distributor or become a preferred customer. Who doesn't wanna live a healthier lifestlye? Message me at CCutrell22@yahoo.com if you have any questions or wanna get involved. :)

  • @CCutrell22 what a fucking joke....nothing is backed by the FDA...Acai berry is in a lot of drinks...

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  • @priya1985.. You're right, the Acai berry is in a lot of products, but what you don't know is that MonaVie brought it to the market. Also what you don't know is that when an Acai berry falls from its tree it looses all of its nutrients within 24 hrs. MonaVie uses a PATENTED process that allows the berry to keep all of its nutrients and NO ONE has the ability. Others just use the name Acai to attract people. Would you like to learn more about the Acai berry or MonaVie?

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  • What made me decide to join MonaVie? The reasen was that this juice is very good for my health, I'm feeling fresher, more powerful and bring a 100% in my job/sports & co. Also a big reason was that MonaVie is committed to the third world -> search in youtube monavie momentum (first link; about 10 minutes)

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  • all i want to know, is what do you all like about MonaVie?

  • just checked out your video- I will be a Monavie distributor THIS MONTH !!!

  • @wnychevy09 may i ask what made you decide to join MonaVie?

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  • @MrLivestrong23 if you still think about the price, you're not looking at the cost! You have to change your thinking, Americans are really Dumbed down, we need to educate them again

  • I actually beat chuck norris in a fight after I drank monavie

  • @D33Lux hahaha YES

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  • I just saw a news report where Oprah and Dr. Oz are suing over the use of their names for this stuff that they Never endorsed...

  • @elchicho25 Yeah they did, have pictures and film clip of them pouring from the Monavie bottle and drinking and talking about it. The law suit was because Monavie refused to pay them for their endorsement. Monavie pays no one for their endorsement and Oprah endorses nothing unless she is paid. Very simple actually!

  • ..the shit works.

  • excellent report. Hard to believe someone in the news media would do such a good honest job. Unfortunately claims that it sells itself are not as realistic as many distributors have found on and will tell. Monavie is terrific and the best way to get the news out is to reach the masses. online training is a must to make the good money the rewards outweigh the investment by a long shot. at least look into it and decide for yourself. MarketingSolutionsSourcedotcom

  • There's nothing like monavie, any video response is plain BS

  • Check out the great Leadership Call from Monday! This company is ready to ((( Explode ))) and WE are going to BLOW IT UP! (Only two Front-Line Top spots left - Don't say I didn't offer you top position ;) Giddy Up!

  • After a bad fall down a flight of stairs (stupid Canadian winter), I tore 'major amounts of soft tissue'(my doctors words). My left side was toast, left arm was all but useless, I couldn't hold a cup of coffee. After 6 weeks of physio I could use my arm. But that was about it. After 2 weeks drinking Mona-Vie Active, the rest of the pain that I had been living with for 3 years is gone. It WORKS.

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  • Awww how cute, a MLM scam cult company is on the news.

  • The things at costco don't have the fruits you need. they've used cheaper and less fortifying nutrients to SAY they use the acai berry.

    The Berry alone doesn't do half of what the full 19 fruits do. they researched for years to get the correct fruits that actually help the body. Therefore the stuff you find lining the supermarkets for a cheaper price, you'll spend less money yes, but for what result? nothing.

    I just started mona vie a week ago, and it's already helped my arthrites.

  • they are still linking their products to oprah and she sued them for it, so these people are dishonest, dont buy anything from dishonest people

  • I like how they get the old people who buy anything on midnight info commercials to endorse it on live TV

  • @jw80malibu this stuff works ive used it it actually works i swear it does

  • @twiecbs im not saying it doesnt ........ but i am saying its over price juice that i can buy from costco, more for less.

  • No water is added to any MonaVie product to dilute it. All MonaVie products are 100% juice.

    All is per -

    JANETTE KIRTON

    Monavieproduct specialist, technical services

    product management

  • Before a MonaVie product is made, the juice concentrates are sent to our manufacturing facility. During production, the water removed from the juice is added to bring the juice back to its original state. This process is also called reconstitution.

  • Some of the individual ingredients found in MonaVie products are from juice concentrate. A juice is concentrated by removing water from it. A juice concentrate is easier and less expensive to transport from one location to another.

  • "Juice from concentrate is widely regarded as having the same nutritional content when it is reconstituted as it would from a fruit juice that has not been concentrated.

  • I drank Monavie then I wrestled a crocodile...and won

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  • This product works...I will drink it whether or not others choose to join me ...

    Love this product... .

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  • Its funny when people see a successful company in the business world that people think its a Scam of somekind. Granted there are a LOT of bullshit out there but come on, when PRO sports teams use this product its gotta do something right.

    Also the test was independent study of the ACAI BERRY and cancer NOT MonaVie. Mona Vie never claimes it cures cancer.

  • 95% of people in Mona Vie Dont make money-Fact.

    Its disclosed on their statement.

    Its overpriced, and underdelivered in terms of product claims

    Its CEO was fined and shut down by the FCC, at the last company he worked for.

    Find another business, Mona Vie is about selling the dream, nothing more.

    I did it, I know...save your money-

    Note: the Green bottle with liquid Glucosamine is decent but not for $40 per bottle

  • your wrong on that....

  • Im 100% right

    Dallin Larsen was shut down by the FCC and fined $2 Million dollars

    Its public info,Wikipedia

    Newsweek correspondent Dokupil, Larsen, a 20-year-veteran of the MLM industry", "left a senior post at another juice company in 2002, before the FDA destroyed the company's bogus products that were being falsely promoted to treat cancer, arthritis & attention deficit disorder." The company in question, Dynamic Essentials, distributed an MLM juice product known as Royal Tongan juice

  • @StSimonOfTrent Today, about 90% of the people drinking the product don't do the business, thats why only 10% of the distributors make money. 90% of the people drink it because it is actually helping them.

  • Placebo..

    Its 90% reconstituted Juice, which means from concentrate-water added.

    You can save yourself $125 per month and buy Sambazon (which lists their exact acai berry count (400 per bottle!) flash pasteurized , Fish Oil, Flaxseeds and V8 Fusion juice. If you need Glucosamine, buy the oral version-via Healthstore

    The CEO of Mona Vie had his last company shut down by the FCC and was fined $2 Million Dollars.

    Snake Oil X Amway scammers are what they are.

    They sell the dream, nothing more.

  • DONT listen to StSimonOfTrent...... He needs to really know what he is talking about before he make comments like this. Monavie has over 56 million dollars of research behind it. I dont think it takes that much money to produce what says it is.

    Please educate yourself.

  • Look up the word RECONSTITUTED.

    'To bring (a liquid in concentrated or powder form) to normal strength by adding water.'

    Now look at the back of Mona Vies Label. Reconstituted Fruit Juices.

    I used the overpriced product for 2 months..

    Mona Vie is about selling thr dream, nothing more. CEO Larsen has been shut down once before and fined $2 Million.

    His puts a nice pretty bow and says the right things with the R&D.

    But it doesnt change facts.

    Sorry. Its your money, spend as you wish.

  • @StSimonOfTrent

    Ya, you may get all that out of the bottle of this, But monavie Freeze dries it's acai berrys, unlike other companies. This process holds in the antioxidants, and monavie has a patent saying no other company is allowed to do so.

  • Sambazon has the some Flash Pateurized process

    Many companies do.

    Sambazon was doing Acai, and they have 400 berries in their juice, years before Mona Vie was.

    Sambazon sells for $6 per bottle

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  • WE here at juiceberg are building a great team with M/V.

  • Team juiceberg is building a great team with M/V

  • I'm based in London, UK - I'm so pleased I went to the states and got trained 6 months before UK launch. If you want to get in a top position with the best prospects, send me a message.

  • read the blind studies on Monavie done by internationally reputed scientists. As hard as one tries it is difficult to get all of the foods we are supposed to get for our bodies to function properly. We need to look for a better way than the staus quo, too much cancer and heart disease throughout the USA. to keep on doing what we've been doing. Read the studies

  • @marydunnkw Read the studies? Read them closely, look how the same name Appears over and over on all the studies. That is unethical beacuse he has shares in the product lol. I'd surely say my product was good in a study if i had shares in it

  • Zelkue, have you ever tried drinking the stuff? seriously, where do you get your facts from. dont believe statistics? try the product yourself. see if it makes a difference. i know it will. because everyone i know that has tried it has seen a difference in their energy levels, and overall health in general.

    As the old saying goes, "dont knock it till you try it."

  • how about eat right and exercise, no magical juice is going to cure all your problems make you cancer free and skinny, get a some common sense, I have hard time believeing some fo you are humans and not sheep

  • Eating right? what defines eating right? the government? haha. Theres nothing common about sense these days. Eating right would be not eating meat and eating all raw foods and getting protein from plant proteins. THATS eating right. how about ANTIOXIDANTS your body NEEDS to SURVIVE? Ever heard of LANCE ARMSTRONG? winner of the TOUR DE FRANCE about 7 times? HE Got cancer. He is in better shape than almost the entire WORLD. why dont you get your facts straight...

  • Wow! Great Stuff! I got the chance to taste a Monavie drink. Incredible BUT... TOO many net. marketers are confused. They're are facing 4 problems: 1) Lack of quality leads 2) Lacking duplication 3) Missing out on Training 4) And the lack of capitol We've got to provide these solutions to our fellow marketers. It's crazy out here! :) Vincent J (financialsolution) (marketing Advantages Inc.)
  • 1) lack of quality leads means you didnt follow step one: make a list and find the two people you know will follow you to the ends of the earth because they trust you and believe in you.

    2) what do you even mean by this? please elaborate.

    3) Missing out on training? there are events and meetings every single day where i live. all you have to do is LOOK for them and MAKE time for them.

    4) the capitol your bring in is based on how much you help other people. this isnt some get rich quick scheme...

  • @Apollosungod Please drink a bottle and see if it cures retardation

  • @Apollosungod

    And never did I say you will never get cancer even if you do those things, you sound like a dumbass scatter brained tard, even raw food no meat fanatics i'm sure get cancer also sometimes you just get dealt shitty cards, and maybe lances healthy lifestyle was what helped him become a cancer survivor. WE were talking about this "juice" claiming it can CURE cancer and diabetes ect like a paneca or elixir of life

  • suddenly everyones a doctor. fuck off monavie bandwagon

  • .....what does "OPRAH" have to do with Monavie - as mentioned on the title??

  • @evilan9el nothing, they used her name with out consent. They went to court over it lol

  • MONA VIE PAID FOX NEWS FOR THIS ADD. THIS IS NOT REAL NEWS!

    Don't buy this product. I tasted it and tastes like shit.

  • @098richard Not only is is shit, it also has no PROVEN benifits. cures cancer HA

  • lol have you ever tried it before? i have and i have proven health benefits. tell me exactly what i am feeling. this is coming from somebody who believed it wouldnt work from the start, and it worked even though i didnt believe it would. that disproves the placebo basically. Plus, whats so bad about getting 17 fruits a day? And plus, i actually know someone who used this to help cure their cancer. BUT they also switched to a raw food diet. That is what i attribute to curing her stage 3 cancer.

  • I don't care if it's not magical and energizing. It just tastes pretty good, and it's good for you.

    As long as it tastes good, and isn't bad for me, It's good enough for me.

  • Weren't all those distributors sued by Oprah for making false claims that she had endorsed MonaVie? I think that tying your MonaVie scheme to Oprah might be dangerous for you...

  • What? All the people in the newscast are distributors?..lol... just cuz your paranoid dont mean they're not after you..lol.... I maybe EVERYONE affiliated with the University of Florida in every way shape and form are distributors too? It helped me with muscle cramps, arthritis and my sciatic nerve...I've had neck and back surgery and was miserable before this stuff.

  • It is amazing what this juice has done for me, my family and my friends. I have a sister who's a lawyer who called it snake oil initially as well. Months later she is drinking it. It has been life changing for my father, my self and many others I personally know. MonaVie for life

  • You sell a POS and make huge claims enough to get international attention. Ever since year 1999 we have had no consumer protection to prove the ability of new inventions. If it has a high price, it has high hype. Right now there is a new UVB wand to clean your keyboard for $69, yet another bunch of hype you might have a tough time seeing through. Notice the mass elaborate phony testimonials. LIke I said ever since 1999 everything is phony

  • actually they just had more vitamin C, which was probably added in anyways. Oh and I'd be pretty hard pressed to find someone who doesn't get enough vitamind C lol

  • @mzkimmyy so misinformed please look into it so many peeple getting such good results me included

  • Boy the CEO of this thing is pretty smart. The distributor model is basically a way to get free advertising. I bet all the people talking in that newscast, with the exception of the baseball player, were distributors.

    And how biased was this newscast? They didn't even care to mention the price, which is a ridiculous $45.

  • yeah its a bit pricey... but compared to what? u reduce the chance of cancer and a lot of other disseases and illnesses with just 45$ a bottle not to mention u just need 2 shots a day! one bottle can last u a month! i dont kno about u but $40 bucks i spend it in just one night of drinking which its damaging ur body! doctors recomend it for a reason! do some research in "Acai Berry" and ur gonna be blown away by its power!

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  • Or the fact that they don't tell you how much acai is in it.

  • there is 4.5 grams of acai in one serving

  • and this information can be found where?

  • "How much acai is contained in MonaVie products?

    Because MonaVie product formulas are proprietary, the exact amount of acai or the other fruits contained in our blend is not disclosed."

  • @BillBJJ78 4.5g pr serving

  • Yet the company says they don't disclose that information.

  • @BillBJJ78 exactly. proprietary blend, why would i consume something when i have no idea whats exactly in it,?

  • if you move---like get off your fat ass and move you will lose weight lol yay mona vie!

  • Those of us that drink monavie are serious, this juice works. Of course there will be skeptics like many of you on this page. Monavie is not a cure all or maricle juice. It just makes perfect sense.

  • mona vie try it for urself dont make judgements until u try it, cuz u cant knock it till u try it.

  • MonaVie snake oil

  • @beepeelow do some research please take a few minutes

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  • 1:56 they say MonaVia distributor xD what's a monavia xD

  • All you beneath me talk bullshit

  • A three minute COMMERCIAL during a real newscast? Let me see the scientific studies for this miracle cure, please? (That is, no fucking subjective anectodal bullshit)

  • Mens Health did a scientific study and found that Welches Grape juice and regular orange juice was actually better then Monavie.

  • I found a company that offers not only Acai but also Durian, Mango, and Blueberry in it and it tastes great. They have a straight line pay plan - not a Binary - and you can get started for only $38. Check my channel for details. Over 8000 people joined up in Aug 2009.

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  • i`m a distributor of Monavie!This is our chance to change our life!If you want to use Monavie or to work in this companie,contact with me and I will help you!

  • you cant even fucking spell company.. how are you going to help them? dont believe any of these fakes... 2090709 is the ID to use XD.

  • The mouth spews out the overflow of the heart..

    How sad for you.

  • lol...I find it interesting that you slam someone who is expressing their own personal views about a product and you have the nerve to make judgement on them for misspelling a simple word to offer your ID number for another product!???? (AMAZING!!!!..lol) I guess that's why I don't believe in internet blogs, I will continue to do my own personal research, thank you very much!

  • monavie has changed my life through the juice and the opportunity. I've met some great people while growing my business and I'm a better, more positive person for It

  • Joe max Moore and Mona Vie is a scam. People should use their good judgment to cost effectiveness, follow the money, and Google "monavie scam"

  • OMFG.... you believe in the monavie scam? i only been in for a month and am a legit star 1000... SCAM??? yeah.. i dont think so smart guyyy.. nice try though.. google why monavie is NOT a scam.. then just slap yourself after you f*kn retard,

  • supersneak - you are right, this is such a big scam, the cost to reproduce the benefits though other nutritious sources make this about 20 times more expensive what it should cost, and not only that the distributors are getting screwed too.

    I don't doubt that you could prove that if you pulled down your pants you could shoe me something that tastes better than Mona vie. But I agree it is a rip-off for the price.