sigh.... don't know anything about Ninja and Japan, yet some idiots HAVE to make videos about Ninja, I hope they stop doing this if they don't know! this is full of shit.
I am "nipponnjin". You up a moving image of mistakes. " Ninjya is japanese original culture. Not China! "Ennno gyoujya" is an ascetic of religion. He is not ninnjya. And "Sarutobi Sasuke" is imaginary ninnjya in the story. You need information of exactly.
I thought that the Lin Kuei started having stealthy spies, and their methods were carried over into Korea and Japan by monks to their mountain-dwelling folks. The fundamentals of many martial arts were carried to other countries by Buddhist monks, I know that for sure. Muay Thai is a good example of this--the soft-art dance with the arms in circles, like a strange but effective Aikido, redirecting blows--that is one other such dance.
pretending you are.....reading you are....replying you are.....a troll calling others troll you are....thus be trolling you are....be hating you are....
in my opinion, ninja's where not anti samurai, please take a look at hattori hanzo, he was both a ninja and a samurai, but i do agree that ninjas are from japan
I do not think making animation for going to the castle in Japan to exist.
In Japan, ninja's a lot of arms, art of invisibility books, and the medicine mixture books exist, and it still exists ..builting.. [mo] with ninja's beginning.
However, the ninja is far with chivalry. Japanese's person who thinks the ninja to be good-looking is extremely little because it steals, and it eavesdrops, and it assassinated it.
for those who are denying this video and acting like you know shit please shut the fuck up. This is in fact the written history of the ninja/shinobi. The ninja you all know are not real this is the real stuff here, read a history book China has their own version a thousand years before
Ninjas were villager until they train themselve in the art of ninjutsu. Since they were not allow to follow the way of the samurai. So they created their own known as the way of the ninja. There were story told that ninja art came from China, but it was not true because villagers in Japan was the first people who creative ninjutsu against the samurai for their survive.
@Fredman5551 I think the name "moron" more suits to you for commenting without knowing the history.Ninjitsu is taught to Japanese by chinese...be mindful kid...not only that...Karate,japanese letters(Kanji) likewise many things came from China...
@Fredman5551 I can see u can't remember any thing more than 6 months...otherwise u wouldn't have posted such a shit comment. I suggest u not to comment on any topic older than 1 year..coz u know NOTHING about history....
@MrSamurai85 why didnt ninjutsu sustain its kung fu art form.. the ninja is more like karateka then a kungfu master or a wushu...
ninja is very grounded and strong stanced also they perform strong punches much like karate and not like kung fu.. this always keep coming up as a question for me
if kung fu was so developed . unless kung fu was still not fully developed at that time.
@TheRogueMonk I think u should learn more history..1st point-Karate was introduced to Okinawa islands from Chinese & sailors who visit china from Okinawa.all Japanese arts including martial arts influenced Chinese culture.I learnt history of Japan in Japan..there're more than enough sources to believe the art of ninjutsu taught by Chinse monks.by the time being,it has changed to what it is today..Japanese ppl are very smart to get some thing from another culture & give it their own form.
@MrSamurai85 what interests me is that also japanese people are shorter and more powerful buildt.. and also their form of martial art is more focused arround physical too.. its more sircular but also square.. while chinese martial art ot me is more siruclar but more linear..
you see real strucutural and executive differences in how they kick , block move.. while in chinese its more dynamic and less square.
I think it has to do with how the japanese were buildt vs the Chinese
@MrSamurai85 i just want tto state that i don think it has had to come from china.. i think that the mentality that something must come from one place is not always suitable and correct.. there is many ways that humans can create similar tarts and things .. i dont think that many arts are limited to one culture or sociaty because we are all human and therefore we are all able to produce similar things independant of others influence..
i think its possible that japanese ma is japanese .
@TheRogueMonk yea thats what you THINK. but I'm talking after reading books & studied Japanese history...basic/origin of Ninjutsu came from China.after that,Japanese added various indigenous fighting methods & some samurai tactics & create a their own form of fighting style.(including poisoning,medicine.guerrilla tactics etc) you better brushup ur knowledge my friend...believe it or not.. Chinese ppl taught the art of Ninjutsu to japanese...
@MrSamurai85 well i even heard samurai come form china.. so its very confusing..
bruce lee even said jujutsu comes from china while i very saldom saw chinese grapling techniques in kungfu movies old old school kungfu movies did not have grapples spelled out atelast
@TheRogueMonk Samurai is a clan who served Japanese emperors nearly 1000 years.even their martial skills were influenced by Chinese culture.when we say China,there were many martial arts not only Shaolin Kung fu..Japanese Karate was originated by Chinese Kempo mixed with local fighting methods...so my friend,u can see every martial art is mixed & exchanged each others' techniques.Ninjas extracted sword techniques from Ken do..pls read some books & even internet u can find da truth...
@MrSamurai85 about ninja i still think its too much speculation .. i dont believe any book to be the truth about ninja.. ninja is a general term to me and it doe snot nessecary mean its a martial art but rather a way of thinking and believing or conducting yourself..
i think ninja is a skill based art and not a martial art ..
i think of any martial art based system out there ninja has to be unknown and mystical its just its nature.. who can really say what ninja is? i doubt any book can
@MrSamurai85 well i am tired of just seeng kung fu from china cuase kung fu doe snot in most ways look like the japanese art it just dont.. unless china had arts that were less popular and less exhibited i cannot 100% accept that japanese arts were from china .. as i said before .. any country can produce anything it is not dependant on another ocuntry.. its just sepculation that everything needs an origin
@Fredman5551 China passed the foundations to Korea, and from Korea went Nintaijutsu to Japan, eventually turning into japanese Ninjutsu. So... you just expressed nonsense
Cool beans. but NINJA are not from china. Aliens riding horned polar bears could have taught a bunch a fish Nintaijutsu to pass it onto the Japanese. doesnt matter, the actual NINJA are from japan. good day.
Who is this fuck'n stupid fake comentater? Mistakes so much about Ninja. Ninja is original of Japanese assasin. Ninja was Assasin, Whomakotaro(風魔小太郎) was Hojo's Ninja After the 1585, went to Edo(Tokyo), and then they were gone. This video is so much mistakes.
The stupidest thing is that every ninja, fantasized by the western ignorance, wear black uniform and use curved swords that can be only equipped by samurai. They're basically spy, and they'll wear whatever disguise that will help them the most when they're approaching the enemy.
Get your facts fucking straight Choson Ninjer is a fraud! Ninjas originated in Tibet/China!! Ask Choson fake ninja to produce some lineage facts and contact info to support his Ninja training claim! He can't! He says in one of his videos an obvious modern day sword purchased within the last two years was a ninja sword passed down to him from generation! This proves he is a liar!
Listen to ChosenNinja he was raised in it and he is right start open your minde People the truth is not that hard...Look Even I can See some Stances that actually Look like one of an animal forms from Kung Fu.....Came From maybe from Leopard....So it came from Shaolin Preist, then they took it as own and learn from that....Martial arts are all Broken down from Many styls...Like the Vagabound's or from Aribic....They used Steath at night...same as ninjitsu.....
Dude and dudetts every martial arts came from yoga,Shaolin, and every style from China then developed slowly through Korea then other countrie's like Japan...Ninjitsu or Nintaijitsu actually came from a Korean Clan...Go to Japanese beginning's and follow the gold path were it all stated to move east...Learn your history people... Buhda was an Indian prince who wounder the coutry side to finde enlightenmant....So look before you scorn....So you wont sound like an idiot when you see the truth....
This story is total false. Ninjutsu was created by local farmer and wood cutters of Iga and Koga region of Japan. Yamato Takeru was myth..no relation to Ninja
This is not meant to offend anyone, but unfortunately this documentary is extremely inaccurate. It refers to fictitous stories about the origins of ninjutsu and furthermore completely misunderstands various basic topics of ninjutsu history.
Overall, I rate this video 1 star only due to its inaccuracy through poor research. One cannot expect to understand what ninjutsu was and is simply by reading one or two books on the subject. It requires years of dedicated study.
@nextfuture777 - oh please.....in ancient China, they are known as Ci Ge, meaning assassin. And yes, they wear black, with the y shape collar and they move in the dark. And nobody is saying ninja originated from China. Even if it does, I am not surprised and most probably it just might be the case.
@BuffonMusa - this video? I doubt this is even a real tv programme...probably made up to encourage all those negative racist comments on youtube as usual...and anyway, the idea of ninja/spy/assassin wearing black suits probably existed throughout history across different cultures. So I see no point arguing who originated it first. Like in China, they are ci ge, assassing wearing black suits with y collar that resembles ninja~
@armyboy24 What exactly is negative or racist about this video? I found it to be interesting and informative. And I doubt real historical ninjas would have worn black. Black clothes actually stand out at night because nothing in the environment is truly black, just subdued shades of other colors. You blend in better wearing greens, browns and earth tones hence special forces uniforms.
@Punchkicker88 - Wow, now that's an "interesting" statement. Black clothes actually stand out at night? Well done. You must be thinking that in ancient times, the neighbourhood are brightly lit with street lamp-posts, dazzling neon-lights from the buildings, and beam lights from the cars. Black is worn for an obvious reason. It helps an assassin (China) or ninja (Japan) to hide in shadows or dark areas. In winder they wear white. In normal conditions, they wear normal civilian clothes.
@AntiHero12109 - It was a debate and there is no definite right or wrong in such things. It's pretty much just sharing different views and perspectives, that's all. And I can easily say the same of you...that your agreeing with him makes you ignorant and it makes u feel like a sissy dude with a fat cock in your butt-hole that makes you itch for an online argument with youtubers by telling them to grow up. I would rather advise you to grow a dick. oh wait, you already are. oh well... =)
@AntiHero12109 - that's the lamest crap i have ever heard. If you haven't read my comment, then why the hell would you reply me? Oh right, because you are a dick... XD
get the fucking reality. who buy Japs shits nowadays.. only consumed by some ignorant European or American or Japanese Korea electronic wins over Japan.. that is to be definetly ture.. why? read the newspapers.. Japan only win over Korea in Game player, camera, Car, note book, thats all other areas, you are lossing every grip. haha.. seriously.
and all you white people ignore other Asians opinion on Japan issues,, it is like Asian disagree with the opinion of All Europe about the German people and their crime. dont do that. alight? that is just so ridiculous.
加藤段蔵がいないじゃないか
shiranngana 1 month ago
いやいや、いろいろとハズレているようで 結構しっかりと基本は押さえててハズしてないじゃん。
使っている図版は一部無茶苦茶だけど 日本だって最近 肖像画の真偽が取りざたされてるしね。
KAZU5224 1 month ago
リン・クイーって誰?
amatuba2004 3 months ago
黒子と忍者は違うwww
skymadder 4 months ago
And THAT'S why I dun like Naruto =)
Hmm....I thought Sasuke Sarutobi was just a legend anyway
Oniyoru 4 months ago
sigh.... don't know anything about Ninja and Japan, yet some idiots HAVE to make videos about Ninja, I hope they stop doing this if they don't know! this is full of shit.
NickDan555 4 months ago
i think it's the Japanese anime and manga to blame
Yvesyew 4 months ago
間者働きの得意な武将は出世したんだけどな
jima10jp 5 months ago
大体合ってそうで要所 要所で間違ってるww
ms06clyde 5 months ago
そもそも忍術=格闘技の一種とアメリカ人は思っているのがおかしい・・
mildseven73 6 months ago 5
But it's hard to get real Ninja history in English sources.
Those are usually written by Ninjer schools and they want to make Ninja look super hero.
BuffonSarutobi 6 months ago
this is such propaganda, holy shit, this is bullshit!!!!
jin54363 7 months ago
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almomds 7 months ago
これは酷い・・・・・・w
hajim77 7 months ago 2
間違ってるw
Agiisyousay 7 months ago
Nice work but its not true with few part.
ここまで調べてアップした事だけほめてあげましょうか。
後はもっと勉強してくださいだね。
noka31 7 months ago
this is insane! Why do a lot of people stating a false informatrion of history and spread to people?. it's disgusting and really pissed me..
simplemindize 7 months ago
おっさん、笑いすぎてお腹痛いってばww
sugayatata 7 months ago
リン・クイーって誰よ?w
yamahanaya 8 months ago
Well explained
gokharol 8 months ago
悪気はなく調べたことを言ったのだろうが
所々おかしなこと言ってるね
もっとまともなものを見ていって欲しいな
robokon4443 8 months ago 9
Ninja's root is not China... There were no Chinese who ran from China to Japan ....
AlmondChoco1221 9 months ago
i dont know about the superhuman powers bit but everything else was cool...
LondonCP 9 months ago
この人、学者?
アメリカ人の頭ってこんなものなの?w
usednnanikuskcab 9 months ago
百地三太夫の所で出された肖像画だけど、これって足利尊氏か高師直だよね・・・?w
blackrisotto 9 months ago
Check out the new book "The Ninja: Ancient shadow Warriors of Japan" by Dr. Kacem Zoughari
MrOphachew 11 months ago
まあ、悪意はないが・・・・・ね。外人にしては6割いいと云うところだ。猿飛佐介
は架空の人物。 日本地図を出しているからいいとしよう。朝鮮半島が無いからまだいいとしよう。
baron706 11 months ago
平凡社の百科事典によると忍者は中国起源
147083 11 months ago
忍者は400年前じゃなくて1000年前じゃない?
てかナルトの見すぎだろ
hane999999 11 months ago
高校生が、めんどくさくて適当に作ったレポートレベル。
tlsekf 11 months ago
700年前後なら遣唐使の時代なのに、中国人が直接文化を教えた事に・・・
それに日本武尊が最初の忍者・・・
実在不明とはいえ、景行天皇の皇子で、今上天皇の先祖なのに(泣
pochi2670 1 year ago
I am "nipponnjin". You up a moving image of mistakes. " Ninjya is japanese original culture. Not China! "Ennno gyoujya" is an ascetic of religion. He is not ninnjya. And "Sarutobi Sasuke" is imaginary ninnjya in the story. You need information of exactly.
anjedaisuki 1 year ago
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Fyn689 1 year ago
I thought that the Lin Kuei started having stealthy spies, and their methods were carried over into Korea and Japan by monks to their mountain-dwelling folks. The fundamentals of many martial arts were carried to other countries by Buddhist monks, I know that for sure. Muay Thai is a good example of this--the soft-art dance with the arms in circles, like a strange but effective Aikido, redirecting blows--that is one other such dance.
Lachdenan 1 year ago
多くの西洋人には、日本、中国、朝鮮の区別がつきません。
よって、日中韓の女ならだれでもいい。という西洋人男性が腐るほどいます。
3soyo 1 year ago
これはひどいなー、得意げに語ってるおっさんうざいなー。猿飛佐助は架空の人物だし、忍者は明治維新のへんまで存在してるし。めちゃくちゃだ。
kojima5707 1 year ago
The next video are common sense in Japan.
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The document which a Westerner makes is full of mistakes.
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Houzan04Review 1 year ago
Solid snake is ninja.
rion682 1 year ago
YAMATO TAKERU IS NOT A NINJA!!!!
So many misunderstandings....
sayagunma 1 year ago
pretending you are.....reading you are....replying you are.....a troll calling others troll you are....thus be trolling you are....be hating you are....
armyboy24 1 year ago
デタラメ言うのはいい加減にして欲しい。ひどい歴史観だ。外人ってみんなこうなんだろうな。中国も朝鮮も日本もごっちゃまぜ。
collonman 1 year ago
芭蕉は忍者
j32hjvjbn 1 year ago
忍者と山伏がごっちゃになっている。
超自然的力(忍法・忍術、法力)をつかうからか?
schijnsel 1 year ago
びっくり歴史・・・
どうやったらこーなるのでしょう
reiaraia 1 year ago
shacwo 1 year ago
※類似品にご注意下さい※
TOWTOWHEAT 1 year ago
NINJAS ORIGINATED FROM JAPAN!!! NOT china!!! THE BRAIN OF THE MAKER OF THIS VIDEO IS DISTORTED!!!... NINJAS are ANTI-SAMURAI...
CandyBlooded 1 year ago
@CandyBlooded
in my opinion, ninja's where not anti samurai, please take a look at hattori hanzo, he was both a ninja and a samurai, but i do agree that ninjas are from japan
jin54363 1 year ago
憧れるのはいいが、間違いだらけなのはよくないな
kitasirakawatiyuri 1 year ago 22
ええええなんか納得いかない
k62626262 1 year ago
I am really curious what do Japanese think about the story shown in this video :)
It's really hard to find authentic information about ninjutsu in the internet...
Aquanjitsu 1 year ago
外国人って忍者好きだよね
rtsac25 1 year ago
ちなみに、5:41のところが、
「頭の弱い大人や、不良の孤児や、浮浪児の少女を拾っては、
嘘のつき方や、インチキ武術を教えていた」とでもなると、
かなり、チョにダブるんだな。
Houzan04Review 1 year ago
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いわゆる日本の文化や国内の戦乱の中で培われた「日本特有の戦術スタイル」を、一般には「忍者」と国内外でも呼んでいます。それで、中国はそれには全く関係ないことを香港映画それ自体が語っているといえます。個人的に中国武術は好きでしたので、香港映画のかなり古いものから観ましたが、忍者のスタイルが悪役または善玉として出てくるものは記憶にありません。つまりですね、忍者なるものは、中国人や香港の人にとっては、商品価値ある商品キャラクターではなかったということ。その理由は中国にはその「日本スタイルの忍術」に関する史実もなく、彼らにとっては、むしろ少林寺で売った方が誇りも造り甲斐もあったのでしょう。
続く
Houzan04Review 1 year ago
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このビデオで言っているようにもしも中国が「ジャパニーズスタイルの忍術」の発祥だとしたらですよ、当の中国人が、ごまんと映画を作っていたと私は思いますよ。
でも、そんなもの私は見たことありません。どうやらこの企画を作った人は、単なる兵法書をルーツとして拡大解釈してしまったのでしょう。余談ですが、大昔、笑えるテレビドラマがありました。タイトルは「燃えよカンフー」で、なぜか少林寺の坊主が少林寺で「八方手裏剣」を投げて稽古しているわけよ。子供ながらにすぐに嘘だと思いましたよ。で、そのドラマを作ったのは、当然、「アメリカ人」でした。
Houzan04Review 1 year ago
忍者屋敷で面白いのは、甲賀忍者屋敷も元禄時代なんですよ。
このふたつの観光忍者屋敷が両方共元禄時代で売ってるのは興味深いですよね。
伏見の寺田屋が実は維新後の再建であったことが最近発表されましたが、忍者屋敷も一度きちんと学術調査したほうがいいと思います。
BuffonMusa 1 year ago
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@yeastori
If you referred Togakure(Bujinkan) myth , it's Takamatsu's creation.
I know many foreign ninjer guys seriously believe the historically ridiculous story.
What you should do is master Japanese language both modern and classical.
Then read a lot of Japanese history books and historical records.
BuffonMusa 1 year ago
東京在住の日本人です。
動画作成した方は、日本のお城に行ったこと無いと思います。
日本には、沢山の忍者の武器、忍術書、薬剤調合書が存在していますし、忍者の仕掛けのある建も、まだ存在します。
しかし、忍者は、武士道とは、ほど遠く。盗み、盗み聞き、暗殺などをしていた為、日本人は、忍者をかっこいいと思っている人は、極々少ないです。
UN20091 1 year ago
@UN20091
すまんがどこの城のはなし?
伊賀上野城でさえそんなもん展示してなかったが。
忍術書とか忍器とか展示してるのは観光博物館ぐらいじゃないか?
伊賀でさえ「実際に出土した忍者武器」は皆無と言われたぞ。
薬関係は豊富だな。
BuffonMusa 1 year ago
@BuffonMusa
あなたの言う、伊賀上野城には展示無いです、後から城を立て替えてありますので、伊賀上野城の近く、上野公園にある伊賀流忍術屋敷は行かなかったのですね、元禄時代 西暦1688年~1703年までの期間に建てられた建物で、忍者自身の住居として現存する建造物ですょ(^^)伊賀流忍者博物館も近くにありまが、そこには、400点以上の忍具を展示しています。
『忍術教本―忍びの秘伝31』という本には、映画等でおなじみの忍者ではなく、実際の書物などから推測した本当の忍者の実態など記載あります。
UN20091 1 year ago
BuffonMusa 1 year ago
@BuffonMusa
伊賀上野城に展示無いと記載あったので、超初心者と思いコメントしました。
自分で詳しくて有名と名乗っているのであれば、個々の感じる内容の重要性に対して、推論規則から結論を導き出す推論方法使用すれば、いいことなので、別に反論はしないですぅが、1つ。
あなたはボツと思っているようですが、一般的には、元禄時代の忍者の住居が残っている事は、忍者に関する見解には、かなり重要視されていますょ。
UN20091 1 year ago
@UN20091
すみません、見解に重要視されるって意味がわかりません。
元禄時代創建の忍者屋敷の存在が重要視されるならわかりますが。
それは元禄時代でも伊賀地方ではカラクリ屋敷に住まないと身の安全が保てないほど治安が悪かったとかそういうことですか?
BuffonMusa 1 year ago
@BuffonMusa
教科書的な答えは、あなたが正解です。
大学での歴史テストでは、不正解ですよ。
単純に、説明します。
歴史を構造的に捉えて下さい、歴史は繋がっているのですよ。文化や思想が、残っているということは、、、
後は、近代史に置き換えると分かると思います。明治維新や、戦後の事など、龍馬を殺したのは?戦争の責任者は?
よくわかりませんが、有名な方なら、文化や、思想が残っている事自体が、歴史と認識してほしいものです。
UN20091 1 year ago
@UN20091
あなた韓国人でしょ。
なぜ日本人だと偽ってるの???
NyaNyaOneOne 1 year ago
@UN20091
いや、あなたの言う事面白いですよ。
だからそういう概念的なことではなく、元禄時代の地方の土豪にカラクリ屋敷が必要であったという学説があるのなら(あなた、”かなり重要視されていますょ。” と言ってますよね)それをここに書き込んで下さいよ。
忍者の何の見解に重要視されてるのか、まだはっきり言ってないですよね?
具体的に言ったほうが読んでる人にも説得力あるでしょう?
歴史が繋がっているから建造物の構造は変化しないとか、言ってておかしいと思いませんか?
BuffonMusa 1 year ago
It is Japanese of the Tokyo living.
I do not think making animation for going to the castle in Japan to exist.
In Japan, ninja's a lot of arms, art of invisibility books, and the medicine mixture books exist, and it still exists ..builting.. [mo] with ninja's beginning.
However, the ninja is far with chivalry. Japanese's person who thinks the ninja to be good-looking is extremely little because it steals, and it eavesdrops, and it assassinated it.
UN20091 1 year ago
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BuffonMusa 1 year ago
for those who are denying this video and acting like you know shit please shut the fuck up. This is in fact the written history of the ninja/shinobi. The ninja you all know are not real this is the real stuff here, read a history book China has their own version a thousand years before
yeastori 1 year ago
@yeastori
That's not ninja, that's chinese 間.
Ninja is a Japanese term, read Bansenshukai by your own eyes.
You haven't read anything have you?
BuffonMusa 1 year ago
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@yeastori
If you referred Togakure(Bujinkan) myth , it's Takamatsu's creation.
I know many foreign ninjer guys seriously believe the historically ridiculous story.
What you should do is master Japanese language both modern and classical.
Then read a lot of Japanese history books and historical records.
BuffonMusa 1 year ago
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@yeastori
And
if you referred Togakure(Bujinkan) myth , it's Takamatsu's creation.
I know many foreign ninjer guys seriously believe the historically ridiculous story.
What you should do is master Japanese language both modern and classical.
Then read a lot of Japanese history books and historical records.
BuffonMusa 1 year ago
朝鮮の妄想病が感染したのかな?デタラメ馬鹿すぎる。。
ramu511 1 year ago
Hi there,
Please do not believe 忍耐術、choson-ninja who is a fake Ninja.
pyrrusoverwinning 1 year ago
i loled at your failure to give factual information.
Kalanproductionz 1 year ago
Ninjas were villager until they train themselve in the art of ninjutsu. Since they were not allow to follow the way of the samurai. So they created their own known as the way of the ninja. There were story told that ninja art came from China, but it was not true because villagers in Japan was the first people who creative ninjutsu against the samurai for their survive.
hayategumo 1 year ago
the video lost is credibility within the first 2 minutes by saying ninja are from china. fucking moron.
Fredman5551 1 year ago 5
@Fredman5551 I think the name "moron" more suits to you for commenting without knowing the history.Ninjitsu is taught to Japanese by chinese...be mindful kid...not only that...Karate,japanese letters(Kanji) likewise many things came from China...
MrSamurai85 1 year ago
@MrSamurai85
Im not the guy responding on 6 month old comments.
My care level : 0%
Fredman5551 1 year ago
@Fredman5551 I can see u can't remember any thing more than 6 months...otherwise u wouldn't have posted such a shit comment. I suggest u not to comment on any topic older than 1 year..coz u know NOTHING about history....
MrSamurai85 1 year ago
@MrSamurai85
Yes, Im an idiot and your obviously a big deal.
Now that we have that taken care of, i take my leave to you. Good day bigot
Fredman5551 1 year ago
@MrSamurai85 why didnt ninjutsu sustain its kung fu art form.. the ninja is more like karateka then a kungfu master or a wushu...
ninja is very grounded and strong stanced also they perform strong punches much like karate and not like kung fu.. this always keep coming up as a question for me
if kung fu was so developed . unless kung fu was still not fully developed at that time.
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
@TheRogueMonk I think u should learn more history..1st point-Karate was introduced to Okinawa islands from Chinese & sailors who visit china from Okinawa.all Japanese arts including martial arts influenced Chinese culture.I learnt history of Japan in Japan..there're more than enough sources to believe the art of ninjutsu taught by Chinse monks.by the time being,it has changed to what it is today..Japanese ppl are very smart to get some thing from another culture & give it their own form.
MrSamurai85 1 year ago
@MrSamurai85 what interests me is that also japanese people are shorter and more powerful buildt.. and also their form of martial art is more focused arround physical too.. its more sircular but also square.. while chinese martial art ot me is more siruclar but more linear..
you see real strucutural and executive differences in how they kick , block move.. while in chinese its more dynamic and less square.
I think it has to do with how the japanese were buildt vs the Chinese
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
@MrSamurai85 i just want tto state that i don think it has had to come from china.. i think that the mentality that something must come from one place is not always suitable and correct.. there is many ways that humans can create similar tarts and things .. i dont think that many arts are limited to one culture or sociaty because we are all human and therefore we are all able to produce similar things independant of others influence..
i think its possible that japanese ma is japanese .
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
@TheRogueMonk yea thats what you THINK. but I'm talking after reading books & studied Japanese history...basic/origin of Ninjutsu came from China.after that,Japanese added various indigenous fighting methods & some samurai tactics & create a their own form of fighting style.(including poisoning,medicine.guerrilla tactics etc) you better brushup ur knowledge my friend...believe it or not.. Chinese ppl taught the art of Ninjutsu to japanese...
MrSamurai85 1 year ago
@MrSamurai85 well i even heard samurai come form china.. so its very confusing..
bruce lee even said jujutsu comes from china while i very saldom saw chinese grapling techniques in kungfu movies old old school kungfu movies did not have grapples spelled out atelast
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
@TheRogueMonk Samurai is a clan who served Japanese emperors nearly 1000 years.even their martial skills were influenced by Chinese culture.when we say China,there were many martial arts not only Shaolin Kung fu..Japanese Karate was originated by Chinese Kempo mixed with local fighting methods...so my friend,u can see every martial art is mixed & exchanged each others' techniques.Ninjas extracted sword techniques from Ken do..pls read some books & even internet u can find da truth...
MrSamurai85 1 year ago
@MrSamurai85 about ninja i still think its too much speculation .. i dont believe any book to be the truth about ninja.. ninja is a general term to me and it doe snot nessecary mean its a martial art but rather a way of thinking and believing or conducting yourself..
i think ninja is a skill based art and not a martial art ..
i think of any martial art based system out there ninja has to be unknown and mystical its just its nature.. who can really say what ninja is? i doubt any book can
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
@MrSamurai85 well i am tired of just seeng kung fu from china cuase kung fu doe snot in most ways look like the japanese art it just dont.. unless china had arts that were less popular and less exhibited i cannot 100% accept that japanese arts were from china .. as i said before .. any country can produce anything it is not dependant on another ocuntry.. its just sepculation that everything needs an origin
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MrSamurai85 1 year ago
@Fredman5551 China passed the foundations to Korea, and from Korea went Nintaijutsu to Japan, eventually turning into japanese Ninjutsu. So... you just expressed nonsense
Fyn689 1 year ago
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Fredman5551 1 year ago
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@Fyn689
Cool beans. but NINJA are not from china. Aliens riding horned polar bears could have taught a bunch a fish Nintaijutsu to pass it onto the Japanese. doesnt matter, the actual NINJA are from japan. good day.
Fredman5551 1 year ago
@Fredman5551
i guess that explains what the title is saying, the nijinsky2000 is showing how the ninja history has been distorted
jin54363 7 months ago
ちょwwwいきなり忍者の起源が中国ってwww馬鹿じゃねーのかwww
no Ninja from China.fucking stupid lol
MrHannya777 1 year ago 3
長い間足利尊氏とされ近年訂正された 人物不詳武者像 が入っている。
Mangostine1 1 year ago 2
Who is this fuck'n stupid fake comentater? Mistakes so much about Ninja. Ninja is original of Japanese assasin. Ninja was Assasin, Whomakotaro(風魔小太郎) was Hojo's Ninja After the 1585, went to Edo(Tokyo), and then they were gone. This video is so much mistakes.
Gmove02 1 year ago
黒子は違うぞ・・・
gahegahegahe 1 year ago
このおっさん馬鹿だろwww
忍者についてもっと勉強してこようねww
colorsflow 1 year ago 12
日本人なら素人でもわかるほどの無茶苦茶さですね
でも動画はおもしろかったよ!
oboromen 1 year ago 3
YouTubeでシンケンジャー観て黒子を忍者と勘違いしたとしか思えんw
aflamazda 2 years ago 2
誤解はあっても興味を持ってくれるだけでも嬉しい。
fukachannel 2 years ago
伝承者は日本にもいるが、かなり少なくなっているらしいね。
fukachannel 2 years ago
Very cruel content
What did they examine?
Is the bribe taken from Korean people or Chinese?
Their histories of Japan are ignorant.
smilecat2 2 years ago
まぁ、伊賀の里は信長に襲撃壊滅させられ、
風魔は主家の北条滅亡後に野盗扱い。
太平の世の中で、戦闘専門職の侍すら、浪人として
あぶれる世界だから、忍者は自ずと
間者、諜報員的な役割専門にシフトしたらしいけどねっ。
その結果が黒子ですには、、、正直絶句w
zibetann 2 years ago 4
でもまぁ。
大道芸人、薬売り、行商、遊女に歩き巫女、などなど・・・
土着しない地方を回る職業の人として、
忍者紛れ込んでいたって話はよくある。
歩き巫女は、ここにも出てたけど。
望月千代女って武田忍軍の女棟梁が諜報員として育成してたし。
大道芸人のなかに、忍者はいたかもね。
黒子専門かどうかは、知らないけどwww
zibetann 2 years ago
The stupidest thing is that every ninja, fantasized by the western ignorance, wear black uniform and use curved swords that can be only equipped by samurai. They're basically spy, and they'll wear whatever disguise that will help them the most when they're approaching the enemy.
harrison28514 2 years ago
これはヒドイw
gigababy999 2 years ago 3
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japanese culture was born through korean culture. japan's history very short.lol
TTzealousTT 2 years ago
@TTzealousTT jesus was korean
Dainanashi 2 years ago
@Dainanashi
If you believe so, he just might have been :)
MariMano357 1 year ago
@MariMano357 i was actually mockingly referring to a "korea-is-the-origin-of-everything-person" i don't really believe so :P
Dainanashi 1 year ago
え、これって本当なのか・・・・??って思ったけど、黒子が出てきた時点で間違いだと気付いた。
おい、忍者の歴史捏造すんなwww
binta20000 2 years ago
江戸期以前のパートで創作と史料がごっちゃになってるのが致命的かもしれんが
現在の忍者のイメージを否定的に考察してるのは立派なんじゃないかな
zakokazu 2 years ago
なんだこりゃ。
atmark666 2 years ago
This is bad and very very boring.
KingofStarfox 2 years ago
Get your facts fucking straight Choson Ninjer is a fraud! Ninjas originated in Tibet/China!! Ask Choson fake ninja to produce some lineage facts and contact info to support his Ninja training claim! He can't! He says in one of his videos an obvious modern day sword purchased within the last two years was a ninja sword passed down to him from generation! This proves he is a liar!
tokyoronin 2 years ago
I dont know wat is wat anymore
TeaBagJizzer 2 years ago
Listen to ChosenNinja he was raised in it and he is right start open your minde People the truth is not that hard...Look Even I can See some Stances that actually Look like one of an animal forms from Kung Fu.....Came From maybe from Leopard....So it came from Shaolin Preist, then they took it as own and learn from that....Martial arts are all Broken down from Many styls...Like the Vagabound's or from Aribic....They used Steath at night...same as ninjitsu.....
tpm6888 2 years ago
Dude and dudetts every martial arts came from yoga,Shaolin, and every style from China then developed slowly through Korea then other countrie's like Japan...Ninjitsu or Nintaijitsu actually came from a Korean Clan...Go to Japanese beginning's and follow the gold path were it all stated to move east...Learn your history people... Buhda was an Indian prince who wounder the coutry side to finde enlightenmant....So look before you scorn....So you wont sound like an idiot when you see the truth....
tpm6888 2 years ago
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you speak the truth.
Masterless2012 2 years ago
fucking korean claiming that ninja is originated from korea = =
Yvesyew 2 years ago 3
この動画はなかなかよくないですか?
忍者は元々は汚れ仕事請負人でこれらが極秘裏に動く特殊部隊になり太平の世でスパイになったわけですし・・・・・・
az2781 2 years ago
This story is total false. Ninjutsu was created by local farmer and wood cutters of Iga and Koga region of Japan. Yamato Takeru was myth..no relation to Ninja
radiowave433 2 years ago
スパイ程度ならどこ国の紛争でもいたと思う
そして忍者の場合、隠れ里まで形成し、里独自の薬学や火薬調合法を発展させ、体術などの技術鍛錬を徹底して行った点で只のスパイとは分けるべきかと
もっとも長期の戦国時代や封権制度などの好条件下、此れほど発生と発展に適した地域は無かっと思う
現代版忍者は特殊部隊+諜報機関÷2とも言えそう・・忍者って凄
myleftylefty 2 years ago 3
そして百地三太夫が足利尊氏にw
shouinjinja 2 years ago 2
It is too a terrible story.
It is only a mistake.
ChosenNinjaNo 2 years ago 2
日本武尊が忍者っぽいとかないわ。それにタイトルに出てくる小物が日本と全然関係ないね。むしろ中東からエジプトあたりかな?
それにしてもハットリ君が良い味出してるな。
tsukumoishi 2 years ago 2
ガルーダはまさしくエジプトそしてフェニキアからガレイ船でポリネシアに流れた文化。日々鳥不死鳥は、日本、タヒチ・ラパヌイそしてインカ、アスティカにつながる。 沖縄からポリネシアに伝播したと、環太平洋文化に共通する言霊信仰と不死鳥伝説。
pinpono843 2 years ago
>神鳥(ガルダ)伝説
そっちの意味ならほっとしました。不都合な知ってはならない意味の『八咫烏』。これは、天皇家と五伴緒(いつのともお)に由来する公然の秘密。知らなくていいこともある。
pinpono843 2 years ago
このコメンテーターは実によく研究している。 日本武士ではなく百姓集団なにゆえか、人を欺く謀略は武士道の外。 被差別民や山の民、サンカなど、山並衆川並衆など、秀吉、小六、五右衛門など、ネットワーク網を駆使して、驚異的な速度で情報交換をした。日本には『八咫烏』がいまもってひた隠しにされているが、な
pinpono843 2 years ago
忍者に関するコメントには特段の異論なし。ただ、やたがらすは海洋アジアに共通する神鳥(ガルダ)伝説の日本バリエーションだと考える説が有力だよ。日本文化の源流が大陸ではなく南洋にあることを示唆していると私は考えている。
nomortiga 2 years ago
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仏教の真言密教や天台密教という忍法修行者を忍者という。 日本にも仏教伝来で、朝鮮半島の百済から一緒にやってきて聖徳太子のブレーンとなった。 南朝系の吉野は密教忍者の隠れ里。中国に忍法者がいてもてもおかしくない。もちろん朝鮮にもだ。仏教がルーツだからな。
pinpono843 2 years ago
すげーおもしれーwネタならこいつ天才だわw
ena42bato 2 years ago
くろこ・・・
kacasi 2 years ago
意味不明だけど面白いから許す!!
totmit723 2 years ago
日本食レストランで相撲のウェーターが出る映画よりずっと進歩してるので評価したい
ForestBoo 2 years ago
TVゲーム笑った。
しかしめちゃくちゃな歴史観だな。あまりに酷過ぎて笑える。中国とかThaiとか仏教圏一緒になってるし~。ありとあらゆるアジアテイストを混ぜた感じ(笑)。
これは間違いなく漫画から適当に集めただけだろう。風魔の小太郎って(笑)。NARUTOは出てこないのか?
面白い~
tohokuhonsen 2 years ago
This is not meant to offend anyone, but unfortunately this documentary is extremely inaccurate. It refers to fictitous stories about the origins of ninjutsu and furthermore completely misunderstands various basic topics of ninjutsu history.
Overall, I rate this video 1 star only due to its inaccuracy through poor research. One cannot expect to understand what ninjutsu was and is simply by reading one or two books on the subject. It requires years of dedicated study.
Jiraiyasamataaa 2 years ago
絵の年代が適当すぎる。でもおもしろかった。ww
wawann1994 2 years ago
この人、仙人と忍者の区別ついてない。アホクサ。
gotuakira1107 2 years ago 3
何?この捏造ビデオ。
中国が起源ですか?
スタートから間違っているよ!
akagig 2 years ago 3
Ninja's origin is a spy in Japan.
It was not in China.
nextfuture777 2 years ago 24
@nextfuture777 - oh please.....in ancient China, they are known as Ci Ge, meaning assassin. And yes, they wear black, with the y shape collar and they move in the dark. And nobody is saying ninja originated from China. Even if it does, I am not surprised and most probably it just might be the case.
armyboy24 1 year ago
@armyboy24
"And nobody is saying ninja originated from China. "
The video says so.
nextfuture777 was responding to the video.
BuffonMusa 1 year ago
@BuffonMusa - this video? I doubt this is even a real tv programme...probably made up to encourage all those negative racist comments on youtube as usual...and anyway, the idea of ninja/spy/assassin wearing black suits probably existed throughout history across different cultures. So I see no point arguing who originated it first. Like in China, they are ci ge, assassing wearing black suits with y collar that resembles ninja~
armyboy24 1 year ago
@armyboy24
This isn't tv programme.
It's made by the beard man.
Check original video watch?v=MMM3hVp-1Ag
so many ignorant people believe what the man says.
BuffonMusa 1 year ago
@armyboy24 What exactly is negative or racist about this video? I found it to be interesting and informative. And I doubt real historical ninjas would have worn black. Black clothes actually stand out at night because nothing in the environment is truly black, just subdued shades of other colors. You blend in better wearing greens, browns and earth tones hence special forces uniforms.
Punchkicker88 1 year ago
@Punchkicker88 - Wow, now that's an "interesting" statement. Black clothes actually stand out at night? Well done. You must be thinking that in ancient times, the neighbourhood are brightly lit with street lamp-posts, dazzling neon-lights from the buildings, and beam lights from the cars. Black is worn for an obvious reason. It helps an assassin (China) or ninja (Japan) to hide in shadows or dark areas. In winder they wear white. In normal conditions, they wear normal civilian clothes.
armyboy24 1 year ago
@armyboy24 Actually, he was right and even explained why, but you're so ignorant you just feel like argueing like some angry child, grow up.
AntiHero12109 1 year ago
@AntiHero12109 - It was a debate and there is no definite right or wrong in such things. It's pretty much just sharing different views and perspectives, that's all. And I can easily say the same of you...that your agreeing with him makes you ignorant and it makes u feel like a sissy dude with a fat cock in your butt-hole that makes you itch for an online argument with youtubers by telling them to grow up. I would rather advise you to grow a dick. oh wait, you already are. oh well... =)
armyboy24 1 year ago
@armyboy24 I din't read a single thing you just said, and thats exactly how trolls should be treated.
AntiHero12109 1 year ago
@AntiHero12109 - that's the lamest crap i have ever heard. If you haven't read my comment, then why the hell would you reply me? Oh right, because you are a dick... XD
armyboy24 1 year ago
@armyboy24 they be trollin.....they be hatin.....
AntiHero12109 1 year ago
足利尊氏が忍者とは知りませんでした。
日本では尊氏は室町幕府の初代将軍として理解されています。
inuname 2 years ago
忍者の体術や武器術とか細かい事は日本で考えられた、孫子の兵法か何かの中の記述で
「こんな事したらいいんじゃねwwのww」
的な事を体系づけて一から組み立てたのが日本の忍者で中国の影響はあるけど中国には忍者はいなかった、忍術で影響があると言えば薬学や火薬とかですかね
aqwt 2 years ago 2
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get the fucking reality. who buy Japs shits nowadays.. only consumed by some ignorant European or American or Japanese Korea electronic wins over Japan.. that is to be definetly ture.. why? read the newspapers.. Japan only win over Korea in Game player, camera, Car, note book, thats all other areas, you are lossing every grip. haha.. seriously.
drahn1275 2 years ago
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and all you white people ignore other Asians opinion on Japan issues,, it is like Asian disagree with the opinion of All Europe about the German people and their crime. dont do that. alight? that is just so ridiculous.
drahn1275 2 years ago
どうでもいいけどヌッコロスには笑ったw
Tube3427 2 years ago
how many peoples want to talk about ninjas, still now in 2009.
you cannot explain what ninja is on a youtube video....MR NIJINSKY2000,,,, I AM SORRY BUT THIS VIDEO IN NOT SHOWING THE TRUE!
KARASU68 2 years ago
im a ninja........ disguised as an unemploymed auto machanic
johlylyyaya 2 years ago 2
残念!風魔小太郎(風魔一族党首は代々小太郎 という名前を付ける)は数人いますし、戦国が終ると盗賊になり江戸時代で処刑されました。そして忍者のルーツが中国??笑っちゃうなぁwwそれと仙人と忍者はちゃいますwww
NAMACHA09 2 years ago 11
i found this more interresting to watch then the discovery channle. nice explanation.
masterchijuan 2 years ago
This video is a good example of how people prefer myth rather than facts.
You should check the response video.
watch?v=zpBGXtECIzA
buffon399 2 years ago
Everybody's saying it's wrong, but not showing the truth.
Grahf 2 years ago
類似性を発見して、ルーツと思い込んで、独自の説を展開しているだけかと。いちおう簡単に反論しておきました。
uniarare 3 years ago 2
あまりにもアレなので元の動画にコメントしてみました。
You said that the ninja was the lowest class in Japanese society.
But, the ninja's existence must not have been official existence in Japanese society then.
Therefore, they did not have the class.
And, the ninja and hermit's hidden reasons are different.
Where did you get this info?
さて、どんな反応がくるのだろうか。
Lemo267 3 years ago 2
大量のソース付きメッセージが届きました。
Lemo267 3 years ago 2
私も受け取りました。
ひとつひとつ検証してこうと思います。
とりあえずヤマトタケル忍者説を主張しているのは玄武館 忍法道場なのがわかりました。
玄武館といえば北辰一刀流千葉周作の由緒ある道場の名前なのにパクられまくって残念です。
tatewaki85 3 years ago