Nahi ji singh sahb dasam granth nu vicharn to baad eh saaf hai ki kujh bani ho sakdi hai. Sari ohna di nahi kio ki jo lachar puna usde wich hai ki tusi apnian bhaina mata nu suna sakde ho ?
bas hun time aun wala k aun wali sikh peede pushu ge k sada guru kon a granth sahib ja dasam granth hun krisan de rasleela da akhad path hoia karuga. jado pehle var parkash kita guru arjun dev g ne guru granth sahib da oh brabar nai baithe teaj sadi sikh kom apni mar g nal brabar parkash kardi a. j dasm granth brarbar parkash karna hunda ta guru gobindh singh ji guru granth sahib de vich e darg kar dinde
If Sikhs value Truth, we must bravely face the fact that our documents may not be authentic. History is a science. We need to carbon date use chemical forensics (organic and inorganic) and also linguistically forensics through computer software to authenticate them. This dispute is not new! Dhir Mal copy of adi granth and Bala Sahkis are a start in 1500s. The Sodhak committee of 1897 had no science tools like Cambridge Shakespeare Labs to declare the hotchpotch of documents (beers) authentic!
@ksehmi you dont need forensic/science to prove that Shri Guru Dasam Granth is real or not The TRUTH CAN NEVER BE PROVEN WRONG... JAAP SAHIB, CHUPAI SAHIB READ EM WITH TRANSLATIONS IF U DONT NO PUNJABI... YOULL UNDERSTAND BRO.. THESE ARE TOOLS FOR OUR SOUL TO FIGHT THE FEAR OF DEATH AND GREED, EGO, ADULTERY, GREED, CASTE.. ALL THAT.. SO NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO YOU CANT PROVE THE TRUTH WRONG.. AND TRUST ME THIS IS THE TRUTH.. WE TAKE EVERYTHING FOR GRANTED.. THIS IS A REALLY BIG GIFT FROM GOD TO US
@rajd89 Sadly, as you may know, the document now refered to as the 10th Garanth was concopted by Men and not God in 1897 under the Sodhak committee. At that time we lacked science of documentation forensics. Our friends at the Damami Taksal and others promoting this as being the "gospel truth" when all it needs is a high power linguistic laboratory to re-evaluate all teh Sodhak phothis and birs (original compeletions etc). God, if he/she wants to ciommunicate with mankind, does it direct !
this bhai saheb has totally wasted his time and mine, i thought he would give some constructive reasons to prove his points. this bhai saheb ji is saying we need not to discover or read history as they have blind faith, i want to ask this person does blind faith help anyone? he failed to explain his point.
jaap sahib , and Kabyovach benati chaupai ...are from Dasam Granth ...u cannot say its fake ........bachitarr natak is controvercial and seems to be not a writing of Sri guru Gobind Singh ji.. read "an opposition analysis' on Sikhiwiki
@sand21ever21 you are right my friend but i don't know why so many people not accepting the truth. All these people have watched these videos and you know something a donkey is always a donkey, these people have the wisdom of a donkey thats why they don't seem to understand it.
@aman113 LOL people dont accept it because its BS, claims that are not backed up. Any joey could do that, the weak indviduals in the 'panth' will fall for these lies, the ones who have faith in the Guru will not, please dont be brainwashed by these 'proffessors' and cause breakage in the 'panth' you talk off. I agree with that, a donkey is a donkey, but by saying that it does not make you wiser 'aman' lol.
@123456heho@aman113 I agree with you and I don't know whom to believe. Now I will do my own research on it because there are some things which definately our guru can't say and its my religion and I will take any step to save it weather it is reading history or going to different places and 2ndly we should not discuss it because if it is not original (or original) than by discussing it we are helping those people who want to destroy our religion weather hindi or muslim
@aman113 I agree with you and I don't know whom to believe. Now I will do my own research on it because there are some things which definately our guru can't say and its my religion and I will take any step to save it weather it is reading history or going to different places and 2ndly we should not discuss it because if it is not original (or original) than by discussing it we are helping those people who want to destroy our religion weather hindi or muslim
@sand21ever21 I have watched it all theres no proof to all these claims and theorys. Pure propagandha. Now what you need to do is go onto all the well known Sikh websites and see there proof on Dasam Granth being written by the Guru. Seriously you people make me laugh and your the clear minority with your BS claims.
Akal takht and Damdami Taksal are hijacked by parkash lal badal and indian intelligence to hinder a second uprise. Even if we have the outmost respect for these institutions this is the unfortunate truth. Now is not the time for blind trust. For Gods sake read this book before u go out to the streets protesting against the Prof... this is just what our enemies want..
Akal takht and Damdami Taksal are hijacked by parkash lal badal and indian intelligence to hinder a second uprise. Even if we have the outmost respect for these institutions this is the unfortunate truth. Now is not the time for blind trust. For Gods sake read this book before u go out to the streets protesting against the Prof... this is just what our enemies want..
Actually the thing is that Hindu Interference has increased a lot in our religion. An average hindu is very nice and supportive... But I am talking about the hindu's who are funded by Government and organizations like RSS... Government wants to divide the society and rule them absolutely . RSS wants a complete Hindu nation in which there will be NO SIKH, NO MUSLIM, NO CHRISTEN . Sounds funny but it is a fact....! The game is deep and their plan is working perfectly till now.
@jagubadsha1983 Hindus can say what they want but they cant tamper with what the Gurus have said. Every Singh should have faith in there guru not the 'RSS' who are they to make us change our views on reality? because reality is that Sri Dasam granth is written by the great 10th Guru himself. Anyone who disagrees is lost and im suprised they would call themselves Sikhs. Rss does not have 'powers' over Sikhs they cant change Gurbani (just want to make that clear to any Singhs who might think that)
@jagubadsha1983 Yeh, you have just proved me wrong!.. NOT. Common sense? ok for starters RSS was founded in the 1920's, Dasam Granth was there waaaaaaay before that everyone knows that. Know tell me this, how did the RSS manage to get into every Gurudawara in front of all the Sikhs and change/alter Dasam Granth? what a load of B......you know the rest. Yes RSS are not to be trusted or even followed let alone listened too. But please dont disrespect the Gurus work, thats just ridiculous.
Hell No, if you dont have faith in Sikhi and want to follow the ammended Dasam Granth and not follow Guru Gobind Singh Ji, then carry on reading the tampered Dasam Granth. Did you not notice in the SGGS there was numbers to end each passage, so that it could never be tampered with....?????
Dasam Granth was not read upon, as Guru Gobind SIngh Ji said our last Guru would be the SGGS. The Dasam granth was left, and left open to Hindu Extremists and changes to to add the Hindu rituals of Tilak etc. Hence you dont see it in the Gurbani itself. Read up the life of the Guru Gobind Singh Ji and the actual facts he taught, do you really think he would have wrote stuff about doing Jhatka Tilak, everything that is not in the Gurbani?
@MrRS1981 left to hindus? what a load of rubbish, this is the most exaggerated story i have heard. Hindus have not edited Dasam Granth, if its about the Gods which are mentioned in it (ie Shiva, Durga) Guru Granth Sahib ji has Ram, Shiva among others mentioned in there. It also mention the Koraan, does that mean muslims have tampered with it? lol this is propagandha used by extremists Singhs due to 1984, seriously though, read the paath yourself dont just follow these 'singhs' follow the Guru.
@123456heho - u muppet. thats different, the Granth Sahib is numbered each passage to prove it has not been touched. the Dasam Granth was compiled way after the Guru Granth Sahib. the RSS = Nirankaris are Hindu extremists that wanted to finish off Sikhi, as per Government rules. think about it really, there is nothing that says to fast like hindus and muslims do, there is nothing about drinking cows piss, making a God out of cows shit etc,...
@MrRS1981 muppet?ur the retard who will leave his gurus words to please the world, and piss himself in front of the RSS. I know who nirankaris are i dont need a explanation for u. Hindu extremists? i think you have been reading too many 1984 articles its polluted your mind from the truth. Where do you think Guru Gobind Singh jis writings went, everyone knows it went into Dasam granth. How the 'RSS' manage to alter it when it was in Gurudawars i dont know, maybe you can make up a bs story.
@123456heho hence Guru Gobind Singh Ji told us to follow the Guru Granth Sahib, NOT the Dasam Granth, research your history before you come up with comments with no foundation. The RSS, nirankaris are all Hindu extremists, even the first president of India, Nehru after the partition, said he was not fond of the beard and turban, he disliked Sikhism as a whole, wanker !
@MrRS1981 I never said follow it, but if you didnt realise kabyo bach benti chaupai is incorporated into Rehras sahib, that is Guru Gobind Singh jis writing. Do my research? i would be suprised if you even opened a Gotka from the way your preaching this propagandha. Nehru is not my Guru, hence i dont care about Nehru, if u call urself a Sikh open your mind and do some rearch yourself on the Banis and look at Dasam Granth, if you read some of the work it is out of this world.
@123456heho * when i meant dont follow it, as in keep Guru Granth Sahib ji as your Guru as stated by Guru Gobind Singh ji, but dont disrepect the same Guru by insulting his work. Look at the amount of dialect/languages the Dasam Granth is composed off. No hindu RSS could of managed that. It is a very accurate and deep granth, before criticising foolishly without even looking at it with a open mind i suggest you research about it.
@123456heho Not what other 'singhs' say, these same singhs wanted to cut 5 banyiya to 3!!! how ridiculous, they want to introduce chatka! why? - '1984' - yes we know it happened, a cruel holocaust, but dont change Sikhism for world events. The way Sikhs are approaching in response to 1984 i would be suprised if they couldnt be distinguished from a muslim because with the way its going....
@MrRS1981 Thats a common hindu tradition, for us Sikhs theres a ban on all meat. It doesnt say from what i have read that you are allowed to eat beef or any other meat. Hunting maybe mentioned, but its never written that the hunted animal was eaten, but instead it was said it was the Gurus duty to free some of the souls trapped in animal form - only a Godly being was allowed to do something like that the other Singhs didnt kill the animals from what i know.
@123456heho - is it from this that they do the Jhatka for TIlak as Hazoor Sahib for Holla Maholla? I think only the Gurus could have noticed souls that needed rescuing, not us mortals
@MrRS1981 Yes your absolutly right, only the Gurus could do such things, but the Singhs ate Hazoor sahib are trying to re inact things which are forbidden to us to even attempt. I dont really know what they doing thinking they can do Jhatka inside darbar sahib as well, i heard they bringt he Goats blood inside as well and put it on the Gurus weapons. - strange.
@MrRS1981 Respect to you then for actually reading such a amazing Granth. How did you then come to the conlusion that it was written by a hindu organisation?
@123456heho because of its texts. It contradicts the Sr Guru Granth Sahib, sure most of it is indeed 100% together with the Sri Guru Granth Sahib, but some lines are not. It goes against the teachings of all our Gurus and it goes against Guru Gobind SIngh Ji's memorable quotes - After me, there shall be no more human Guru, let it be known that for all Sikhs, only the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is to be followed. The way the government has acted upon ruthlessly against Sikhs in India.....
@MrRS1981 None of the texts contradicts Guru Granth Sahib ji. The whole reason Guru Gobind Singh ji compiled Dasam Granth outside of Guru Granth Sahib ji was out of respect for the Guru Granth Sahib ji. Btw nobody is disputing the fact that Guru Granth Sahib ji is not the Guru, furthermore nobody is saying Dasam Granth is the Guru.
@123456heho listen, RS stands for Ranjeet Singh, recognise I dont have a surname before you talk. Hindu extremists, ofcourse, how on earth do you think that the Dasam Grath contradicts the Guru Granth. The good stuff, they kept, for obvious reasons to make it look good. You only have to know about the Gurus teachings and you will realise how the Dasam Granth contradicts it
@123456heho - Shiv, Durga, Waheguru, Bhagwaan, Allah, are all one supreme being, it does not say to follow lord shiv etc, The Guru Granth Sahib states all are from one supreme being, pray to that supreme being, not these God like people, SIkhs own Gurus said that
@MrRS1981 If you read paath properly and for what it actually says, not what some other singh has told you, it goes the gods are all a form of Waheguru (another name Allah). If you cant comprehend that then i cant help you. They said remember Waheguru since and praise his name since he created these Gods and everything else. It did not say disrespect the Gods anywhere. It takes someone with alot of arrogance to challenge beings that have done more Bhagati then you have in this lifetime.
@123456heho - my initials Ranjeet Singh should already tell you about my lifestyle. There is no surname, why because I follow the Gurus teachings. You are copying what I said, Bhagwaan, Allah, etc they are all God, a part of that supreme immortal being. I have never disrepected any God, can you actually read English. Are you fully reading what I am saying before commenting?
@123456heho.....partition, this is being followed by the Hindu extremists that run the Indian government, its a shame to see people from India being divided because of stupid backward run government. Dasam Granth contravery - Jhatka....Hindu tradition...... they can only eat Jhatka meat - Hindu tradition, check out the different Rehat Maryadas, they all contradict mainly in meat consumption, cannibas or basic nasha
@MrRS1981 where does it talk about jhatka in Dasam granth? i have never heard of even read it in there, enlighten me. You sure your not getting confused with Sarbloh Granth because there is controversy there but not with Dasam Granth from my knowledge at all.
@123456heho - I just found something on youtube about the Dasam Granth, it is not written by Guru Gobind Singh Ji, as on page 818 it has very bad swear words towards women, and this goes entirely against the Guru Granth Sahib Ji, I have come to a conclusion to keep me safe though, follow the Guru Granth Sahib Ji and recite this only, forget the Sarbloh and Dasam.
@MrRS1981 I think i know which part your on about, please dont listen to these youtube 'baba' theres these recent 'proffesors o Sikhism' who are making these dodgy theorys up. The section your on abut i think is called Charitar Vikhyan - it does insult women, but it written for Sikhs to be on high guard around women and even men. It tells storys that have already occured in the world and how people trick/betray others for themselves............
@123456heho ........However, it is for the married Sikhs i believe as it can be hard to understand and handle for Single Singhs who are already finding it difficult to handle kaam itself. Theres talk about it on Sikhwiki if you want to have a glance of it for yourself - seriously though brother dont trust these youtube videos look at the info yourself and be the judge
@123456heho Dasam granth is suggesting god has made the biggest mistake creating women and shiri guru granth sahib ji is saying that raja maharaja take birth from this women then why a women is so degraded. Its only gurbani that gives equal status to women not dasam granth. Furthermore plzz do me a favour and read shiri guru granth sahib ji with meanings and than read dasam granth and see it for yourself. People like you just like to comment on things which they have zilch knowledge about
@aman113 No Dasam granth does not 'suggest' this. Dasam Granths Charitar Vikhiyan talks about the stupidity of men as well, i can tell you have not read it. Women are not degraded, and for your information women are not perfect 'goddesses' as you seem to wish to believe. It points there flaws so Sikhs dont fall under a womans trap. Many Sikhs are doing this today, losing there religion for women. Again more insults, proves how much faith you have in your own words. (sarcasm again) lol.
@123456heho ' If you cant see God in all, then you cant see God at all ' - hence my apology to you. There is a lot of contraversy but I can only stay true to my Gurus and my religion by following th Guru Granth Sahib Ji only.
@MrRS1981 Guru Granth Sahib is the Guru and your right, they are the only Guru and come first before anything. The point that i was really trying to make was the fact that i am against people denying the Dasam Granth is not written by Guru Gobind Singh ji because it was. Reading it though is another matter, and like you said Guru Granth Sahib ji should be followed first.
@MrRS1981 P.S with a name like MR RS 1981 i wouldnt be suprised if you are a RSS you seem to have two of the intials proudly in your name. (no offence - just a question)
@123456heho - ........before they got kicked out of India. They set a seed with the Governing body, it is now harvesting in front of our very eyes, Indira Gandhi made many promises, so did Mahatma Gandhi, to the SIkhs, because of the Sikhs position for fighting for free India, a Hindu dominant country. Even then it the promises were not asked for, as 1984 goes, I read from a few British journalists, of the 80s, not the ones who wanted to divide and seperate India just b4 paritition...
@MrRS1981 Can i just say without being offensive, what you have just typed is pure propagandha. Did you know the Dasam Granth is in Harimandir Sahib and has been there for some time, even during 1984. Can i also just say there is no way that the Dasam Granth which is at least 300 years old could of been altered in the last 25 years. If you dont like indian people thats up to you, but why you turning your back on the Sikh religion? your taking the piss out of your own Gurus words 4 indiragandhi ?
@123456heho - that does make sense but, then why are there also many websites and youtube videos that show the contradiction within the Dasam Granth??? Please check them and let me know what you think
@MrRS1981 yeah your right, ive seen a few of them and quite frankly there pretty much disrespecting themselves (thats if they call themselves Sikhs) and there Gurus. Alot of this anti-dasam granth stuff started mainly after 1984. When the indian government attacked and anti-sikh riots which followed was done by Hindu politicians, modern day Sikhs are trying to remove any connection with the Hindu religion..............
@123456heho In Dasam Granth it does talk about the 'Hindu deitys' but the fact is, they do not belong to the Hindu religion which Extreme Sikhs tend to believe after 1984. Because Dasam Granth talks neutrally about all of Gods creations These 'fake Gianis' are finding excuses to go against the Paath saying it was altered etc, but there is no proff of this and in fact there theory is flawed. The DasamGranth is composed of numerous languages including Persian (parsi), Sanskrit, Pashtu and Panjabi
@123456heho ........ Now if Rss did truely edit it, would they include persian, pashtu (afghani) into it? theyre also anti muslim arent they?? At the end of the day the best thing is, is to read it for what it is the Words of Guru Gobind Singh Ji. If you read it, it also says the Guru doesnt worship Krishna or Vishnu or even seek blessings of the Gods (Ganesh). - a clear flaw in the RSS theorys.
@123456heho ...............Dasam Granth is not to be read by begginers though (this is my opnion) as its very deep and can confuse someone who has not read Guru Granth Sahib ji. The way for mukti is Guru Granth Sahib ji, for extra knowledge and interest of Gods creations then i would advise reading Dasam Granth ji but not at the expense of not reading Guru Granth Sahib ji first. - sorry for the long explanation.
@123456heho last note, remeber I said the the different Rehat Maryada contradict each other, there is one that sayd we can only eat meat which is not halal ritual, AKJ says we cannot and eat from only sarbloh untensils, its these small things, if anything, when Guru Gobind Singh Ji created the Rehat Maryada, I doubt very much he wanted different versions of it, this breaks Sikhism as a whole, goes against the teachings that everyone is equal?
@MrRS1981 Ur right there is only one Rehat Maryada as the Guru wanted. Again, its the modern Singhs who think they have enough knowledge to change traditions/Rehats. AKJ are a known sect of Sikhs and do not represent Sikhs as a whole, i usually disagree with alot of there new made philosphies along with many others - although there kirtan is pretty good on balance. My last point as well: Gurmukh follows his Guru only, a Manmukh follows his Maan(emotions) - let 1984 not lead us away from truth.
@123456heho Dasam granth is not our guru our guru is only Shiri Guru Granth Sahib ji. We don't need any other granth or book besides shiri guru granth sahib ji. If our only guru is Shiri Guru Granth Sahib Ji then what is the problem why are you all fighting. Spend this time instead reading bani from shiri guru granth sahib ji. Dasam granth is telling us that our god is mahakal, and Shiri Guru Granth Sahib ji is saying ram nam simar tu jivey phir na khai mahakal. Bani paro samjo then talk.
@aman113 Common basis of Sikhism, follow you Guru. Does that mean you dont read Guru Gobind Singh ji's writing? If we dont need Dasam Granth why ha sit been written by the Guru? Mahakal is a God so whats your point? God has many names. This argueing is caused by the people who claim no need for Dasam Granth, and then in times of war they run back To Guru Gobind Singh jis writing.
@123456heho where is your proof that dasam granth is written by guru gobind singh ji, and yes you are right god has many names however the god described in dasam granth is not the same as god described in shiri guru granth sahib ji. Furthermore I have quoted from gurbani and gurbani is saying keep away from mahakal so you are telling me i shouldn't listen to what gurbani is saying? Go learn the meaning of that verse and if u have any brain cells left u will understand.
@aman113 Where is your proof it isnt wirtten by them? omg i already went thorugh this, read my previous comments. This is getting out of order. Your quotes dont prove anything, in fact it says repeat Rams name. Can you give me a link to where this verse is from, or information where you got this quote from? Does Gurbani teach you to insult other people as well?? 'brain cells'? oh yeah your defo a Gurmukh lol (sarcasm).
@123456heho I get every thing now you are an a RSS agent, plz don't send me any more comments i have to time for your stupidity, if you believe that dasam granth is important to u then so be it. I will like to say one more thing to you have fun worshiping your mahakal and i will worship my akal purkh ok
@aman113 YouR talk is more BS then the RSS claims. Your 'proffessors' are causing breakage in this so called panth you speak about. To even say im RSS as a response to the fact its SCIENTIFICALLY roven to be writeen by Guru Ji shows you have no arguement against that. lol How you gonna worship Akal purkh? thats what Guru Gobind Singh ji did, you are no Avatar mate (although you may think you are).
@123456heho What are you talking about in times of war i don't get that. Do you mean that we require dasam granth to make our self shapahi? Thats an old argument people put up who are standing for dasam granth. You are forgetting there were war before guru gobind singh ji. Miri Piri de malik Guru tegh bhadur ji were great soliders. Guru ji got his name tegh bhadur due to his highly classified skills with the tegh. So no dasam granth was present at that time so how can u say we need it now?
@aman113 Dasam Granth was made for war, you wouldnt know that since you dont seem to know anything about Dasam Granth. Old arguement? are you suggesting your arguements against Dasam Granth ji is recent (ie after 1984) therefore not reliable? When happened to the 40 mukteh? how was that possible? The Guru was a Avatar (form of God), Dasam Granth is meant for us, Duh (ie we are not avatars therefore we cannot perform great acts on our own lol). I didnt say we need Dasam Granth now, theres no war.
@123456heho Either you have been brainwashed or you just don't want to accept the truth, wake up there is still time and if you don't wish to wake then plz do me and the panth a big favour stop telling me that dasam granth is guru gobind singh ji's writing. Have you ever heard of markandepuran and shivpuran if you haven't go do the research and find out how dasam granth is an exact copy of those hindu granths.
@aman113 HAHA ive been brainwashed? coming from someone who is using arguements created by these modern 'proffessors' of Sikhism, who are avereage joes like you & me? haha. Im not afraid of these groups you mention & therefore will not sacrifice the truth of the Gurus words for your propagandha philosophy. The writing of Dasam granth has scientifically proven to match Guru Gobind Singh ji, & there is even a letter from Bhai Mani singh ji clearly saying writings of Dasam granth are of Guru Ji.
@123456heho Explain that, use your made up 'proffesor of Sikhism' philosophys to go against even science. Clear flaw in all the theorys you mentioned, ridiculous really that a 'Sikh' would go to so much effort to degrade a great piece of Granth written by what he calls his own Guru, for the sake of the 'proffesors'. Just because parts of granths match parts of granths of other religions does not make it fake/unreliable. Even Bhindranwale respected Hindu Mandirs, was he hindu? ridiculous.
@MrRS1981 How can you pray to the supreme being if you cant see him? dont you need a form to see him first? theres two types of bhagati in Sikhism, nirgun and hargun. Hargun is with a form. Like the Gurus, you could picture the Gurus as God (since thats what they were). Or why not Shiva? what difference does it make if the jot is within all these God like beings? The aim is to reach Waheguru through these two types of Bhagati.
@123456heho Gurus teachings are that there is jot within all, if we cannot see that in all, then we cannot see God at all. There are reasons things happen in this world, only the supreme Lord knows, if we can read upon all our Guru's teachings, none of them contradict each other???? so why does the Granths, and all the different Rehat Maryada's, why???? because of interfering RSS agents working for the Indian government, and why... the root of the problem lies wihin the British before they...
@MrRS1981 The Rehat Maryadas dont contradict each other though, if you think they do then give me a good example Where Passages of Dasam Granth ji dont follow Guru Granth Sahib ji,
i heard that Nihang don't have brain, but today i saw the reality. it is true. they want whole sikh generation to be illiterate and just a fun for movies and other people. Accactually they have never come out of dera's and are far away from reality of life.
waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh you fools ek doosaray ki taangae kichena band karoo if you dont want follow then stop doing Jaapsahib, Tavprasad savaiye , chaupai saib ok it is dasam bani jaap ji saib te anand saib naal apna nitnem pura nahee hunda k aagar oppose karna hai tou pahelay dasam de bani nu pado jano it is judh mai bani
@TheKhadku Actually have you ever read Guru Granth sahib?? If you would have you would not talk like that. And about Jaap Sahib and savaiye. In each and every verse Guru is talking about one supreme soul..Not any diety of self proclaimed human God.
@TheKhadku So now If I am a notorious, witty RSS type person I will write my own Book in which I will talk about the silly things that I follow and add Guru's Bani That is Jaap sahib in that book to prove its piety and rightfulness then it would be easy for me to fool the people who do not have the knowledge of SGGS.
MY DEAR NIHANG FRIEND.... YOU REALLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT ARE YOU PEARCHING AGAINST SIKHISM.. DASAM NATAK IS SHIT... The granth was given different names at different times in the following order:
a) Bachittar Natak
B) Daswen Patshah ka Granth
c) Dasam Granth
d) Sri Dasam Granth
e) Sri Dasam Granth Sahib
f) Sri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib
These names are very misleading, and the pity is that these have been given by individuals, small organizations or publishers who wish to confuse sikhs
I cannot believe the fact that 2 comments I posted a while have been deleted. Was it because I posted excerpts from the dasam granth and exposed its truth? What kind of a propaganda is this bit singh? I am sure you'll delete this post too then. Disgusting. Phite moo tere befkoof.
is nihangh singha nu e pata granth sahib ke hunda? ane anpadh nihanga nu sukha pilay ke kuj ve khalia ja sakda ?is nu pushae koi ling de kine ke matlab hunde ne ?das dave kutta nighang singh ? badhi guru gobind singh ji de foajj? londar kutta vangoo poonsh latta vich de ke bhajj jan gae .badi ladlin fujh labni be ne kethe gai ? je ane he hundae ta vihari kutta bhaia ludhiana vich bhokan de himatt na karda?ladli fuaj .khali sukha nu khoota la ke ne sher ban jie da k tta bhook keve javae
waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh.bai mai iek punjabi kattad jatt jagirdar haa.atte mera sirr tyah sirf shri guru granth sahib ji aagge hi jhukda haye kisse dasam granth aagge nahie.atte ayah maachhod nihangh kahe reha haye ki kill all those sikhs who dont worship dasam granth.ish nihangh di maa da fudda behenchhod kutta haye salla dalla ayah nihangh.tere warge gandu nihangh assi bahut gaddi chadde hann.ayah bahenchhoda mere nall gall karr jehri karni haye.u are telling to kill innocent
pen dya yaara kapre nu vatt painda saala ghuggi dyan pranya cd's sunke kahani pai janda shri guru granth saab ton utte kuch nai sikha lai i believe dis so koummi mudde shadd ke savere guru granth sahib ji da paath saare karan lag pao sab theek ho jau god bless u all
i was listening this speech very carefully (cos of a nihang singh speaking) but when he said " DASAM SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI" then i immediately understood his whole motive of speech and for whom he is speaking.
Veer g eta man lenea k eh sari dasam patshah di bani a. Par mainu eh samaj ni aayee ke eh dasam sri guru granth sahib kion bolde ne.hun tak tan sikhan da guru keval guru granth sahib c. Guru word keval sikh 10 guruan layee Jan satgur granth sahib layee hi use karde NE. Sham on u guys
tusi jine vi darshan singh de chele ho, kise nu vi bolan da nahi pata. prof. vi SRI DASAM GRANTH di nindiya karai janda. tusi vi sare bhedan di tran magar lage ho. BADDE SIANE BANE PHIRDE. SARE YOUTUBE TE GAND PAYEA PIA TUSIN. KHERU KHERU KARTA SARA PANTH TUSIN LOKAN NE.
Babaji Guda da matlab patta thanu, Land da hor koi arth hai punjabi vich. yah affem bhang yah sharab de koi hor arth vi hun, yah pher balsaffa kise hor kum vi aundi hai. kirpakar ke jawab jarrur dena ji.
Wow,... trying to justify Bachitar natak using NRI jokes..THese Nihang should be shamefull of themselves. When all punjab was dying in 80s these were enjoying special treatments from " sikha ke dushman'... Wearing blue cothes and all sikh kakar dosent just make you any scholar..... he said sikhs do not need to read any history ......bullshit
I dont have to get my faith notarized by you or your Nishangs
I just believe in Guru Granths sahib no body else If Guru Gobind singh wanted to add anything to Guru Granth sahib He could have but he didnt so these morons have no right to Parkash along with guru granth sabib.
What do they know aboyt Sikhism any way they are just crooks of RSS agentsCongress de agents.
I do believe in AMRIT as well as in the banis in Nitnem. All of the Dasam granth doesnt follow the basic roots of Sikhism. It contradicts the basic principles of Sikhism. It is been changed over last 300 hundred years with great conspiracy from other groups. Any logical barin can say, Guru Gobind singh ji will not authenticate the whole dasgranth himself. We need follow only those parts from it which are in accordance with Shri Guru Granth saab.
Although whatever we say, Dasam Granth was never and will ever be equal or greater then Sri Guru Granth Saab (as presently done by many institutions in Sikhism). I dont think I can read the parts from Dasam Granth and assume Guru Gobind singh has written those. As being a victim of divide and rule.. so you are one too and all those who denies even a healthy discussion and do not hesitate to hit below the belt by saying Sikhs who challenge your point of view are not good enough Sikhs.
So typical comment from you, moron... I never said Three banis are not written by 10 Guru... Try to read english correctly..I am for sure saying whole dasam granth is not written by 10 guru you fake sikh withhidden agenda of diminising gurr granth saab.
Shame on you and you type of Dharam de thekedaar... why not you just kill yourself and you are fake sikh who believe i other banis more then Guru granth saab. You people have done enough damage to sikhism... read read and read before argument
well 22ji aapna ehna level te hai nhi ki aapa decide kr skiye ki kehdi bani kis guru di aa...baki main bhai santokh singh te bhai mani singh nu challange ta kr nhi skda...si pretty much oh jo kehnde aa main ohi man da aa
our only guru is shri guru granth sahib ji......so called dasam granth before known as bachitar natak is not our guru........guru granth sahib ji de larh lago sikho...wjkwjf
eh guru ka sikh ni haiga.......saada sirf ik guru aa....shri guru granth sahib ji......sab sikhan ko hukum hae guru maaniyo granth..........kisse hor granth di brabari guru granth sahib ji naal ni kiti jaa sakdi....wjkwjf
bahmana ne aapne SHIV puraan kitaab KAMASUTRA kitaab MAARKANDE puraan kitaab 2 hor .. kathiyan kar k paiya te 2 percent baani paayi aa means GURU JI DE HAQ d gal kiti hai taa k SIKH KAUM no lage k eh granth sachi GURU GOBIND SINGH ji da hai
These babey are talking crap and blind faith. dont listen to other people read dasm granth your self there is plenty of information on U TUBE now including research by bibi Jugraj kaur. Dasm Granth is INSULT to our father GURU GOBIND SINGH JI. wake up khalsa ji we are still being hunted the only way to fight back is to study and belive in SGGS only and prey may waheguru show us the right way forward. WJKKWJKF
Let's not use the word INSULT to GURU...knowingly that the topic is under debate..No-one is sure of what happened in History & its all about conflict of Logic....whereas on one hand we have scholars like Kala Afghana and Gyani Darshan Singh, let's not forget that eminent Scholars like Sant Maskeen and Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale supported the theory that Dasam Granth is a creation of the Guru Gobind Singh..I join you in prayers that let Waheguru show us the right way forward. WJKKWJKF
If no one is sure what happened, then we can go to SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB and see if the teachings of the two conflict with each other - and you know what they do by miles. Hence you can be sure most of the writings in DG are not of guru jis and they are there to discredit the great master. If scholars like maskeen ji and sant bhindranwale supported the theory of dasm granth, then how come they never spoke of the certain explicit stories linked to Guru Gobind Singh Ji in sangat.....cont.
It is agreed that there wasnt much research and understanding of these subjects in early days and all scholars accepted it as fact what was available to them then. However, as there is now considerable amount of research via various means, the facts are beginning to come clear and those scholars brave enough and dedicated enough to their religion and guru, are begining to speak out. But blind faith is not easy to expel. Khalsa will prevail said Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji....WJKKWJKF
we are human being and guru gobidn singh is god who tehf uck we suppoe to listen these pakahandi babay who dosent even exist in sikh religion y cant ehey belive in guru granth sahib y do people start beliving some humans that mean guru gobidn singh ji is lier? shame on u people
banda 5 cheezaan to bhrasht hunda te kaam ohna cho ik aa...je krodh, ahnkaar,lobh te likhia ja skda te kaam te kio nhi likhiaa ja skda...same guruji did... try to understand d concept...
Dasamgrath guru gobind singh ji da likhia granth aa..kyuki is vich koi brahm gyan di gal nhi kiti so iss nu guru granth sahib ji to alag rakhya gya hai...je tusi triya charitr di gal kr rhe ho ta us vich female charitar di gal kiti gyia..te dasya gya hai jado aaurat di character bharasht hunda hai ta ki hunda hai...baki rahi 24 avtaar di gal...us time vich sare granth brahmna kol hunde c te oh baki lokan nu ved te granth padan nhi dinde c...so guru ji ne ehna avtaara di gal kiti aa
veer ehna jada gand DHAN DHAN GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI de mathe te naa marr... ehno sirf par lai .. ehi chauna mai .. ton ehno par lai j ton paran ton baad fer es kaali kitaab de haq vich reha te sir mera juti teri ... j ton SACHA SIKH HAI GURU da te TRUE teachings dasna chaunda duniya no APNE GURU ji d .. te ehno pad lai aa mai msg karan laga tainu 2-3 vedios baare eh bachitar natak diya oh v veer jaroor dekhi
bitsingh or who so ever u are.. check out the dasam granth exposed all parts then tell others about this so called granth.. when guru gobind singhji himself told all the sikhs to worship only shri guru granth sahib ji who r u people to tell us to worship this vulgar book.. have some respect dude..
What they want to proove by doing this? We have only and only one guru that is Shri guru granth sabhib ji. Guru gobind singh ji himself give gurgaddi to SGGS and ordered us (not request) to accept it. I just wanted to ask one thing did guru ji ordered to anyone in sangat or to anyone else that we have to accept dasam granth as guru too? If not then why these people (looking as sikh) are doing these cheap things? Why they didnt argue when Pof. Darshan Singh ji spoke on Dasam granth at Huzur Sahib
Panthkhalsa007, BANI HAI GURU, GURU HAI BANI, stated in Guru Granth Sahib Jee Maharaj! THE PANJ BANIA WE DO, 3 OF WHICH ARE DASAM BANI, Tav Prasaad Svaiye, Chaupai Sahib and Jaap Sahib! Taksali and Nihang Singhs keep both Granths on the same level. So hence it is common sense to accept Dasam Guru Granth Sahib Jee as Guru. If we don't, we are defying our Panj Bania as Gurbani, and just - 'scriptures' Waheguroo - *NO KHALSA PANTH WITHOUT SRI DASAM GURU GRANTH*
maybe if you had taken time to read my previous comment, you'd know why i reffered to it as Guru. ' Baani Hai Guru, Guru Hai Baani' interpret that correctly and there will be no reason for questions :)
So from that I'm gathering that you believe Jaap Sahib, Chaupai Sahib, Tav Prasad Svaiye, Akaal Ustat, Bachittar Natak etc. all of which are not Gurbani?
PanthKhalsa's views have been spammed for no reason. This shows the backwardness of the person who did so. Such people are cowards, and cannot face the arguments of another person. Instead, they plug their ears or WORSE they CENSOR free speech!
Whatever is written by guru gobind singh in dasam granth, u say its disgusting... r u a sikh ? thats what this video says ...listen it carefully.. if u have proper knowledge of dasam granth then only post a comment...
13 peoples u dislike this video are panth verodhi,panth dokhi,manmat...
singhsamra1000 3 weeks ago
waheguru wahegur...shri dasam granth ji mahan ha,,,,
singhsamra1000 3 weeks ago
Nahi ji singh sahb dasam granth nu vicharn to baad eh saaf hai ki kujh bani ho sakdi hai. Sari ohna di nahi kio ki jo lachar puna usde wich hai ki tusi apnian bhaina mata nu suna sakde ho ?
bhatchu 1 month ago
@bhatchu very good u
123soor 3 weeks ago
O salea sharm kar ah what what ke Kare jana a fuck off
guraya90 2 months ago
Very good 22JI. The truth can never be destroyed. Tan shri Dasam Granth sahib ji ,
tan siri Guru Granth sahib ji.
jatsher2 9 months ago
bas hun time aun wala k aun wali sikh peede pushu ge k sada guru kon a granth sahib ja dasam granth hun krisan de rasleela da akhad path hoia karuga. jado pehle var parkash kita guru arjun dev g ne guru granth sahib da oh brabar nai baithe teaj sadi sikh kom apni mar g nal brabar parkash kardi a. j dasm granth brarbar parkash karna hunda ta guru gobindh singh ji guru granth sahib de vich e darg kar dinde
sukhjindersi 1 year ago
If Sikhs value Truth, we must bravely face the fact that our documents may not be authentic. History is a science. We need to carbon date use chemical forensics (organic and inorganic) and also linguistically forensics through computer software to authenticate them. This dispute is not new! Dhir Mal copy of adi granth and Bala Sahkis are a start in 1500s. The Sodhak committee of 1897 had no science tools like Cambridge Shakespeare Labs to declare the hotchpotch of documents (beers) authentic!
ksehmi 1 year ago
@ksehmi you dont need forensic/science to prove that Shri Guru Dasam Granth is real or not The TRUTH CAN NEVER BE PROVEN WRONG... JAAP SAHIB, CHUPAI SAHIB READ EM WITH TRANSLATIONS IF U DONT NO PUNJABI... YOULL UNDERSTAND BRO.. THESE ARE TOOLS FOR OUR SOUL TO FIGHT THE FEAR OF DEATH AND GREED, EGO, ADULTERY, GREED, CASTE.. ALL THAT.. SO NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO YOU CANT PROVE THE TRUTH WRONG.. AND TRUST ME THIS IS THE TRUTH.. WE TAKE EVERYTHING FOR GRANTED.. THIS IS A REALLY BIG GIFT FROM GOD TO US
rajd89 1 year ago
@rajd89 Sadly, as you may know, the document now refered to as the 10th Garanth was concopted by Men and not God in 1897 under the Sodhak committee. At that time we lacked science of documentation forensics. Our friends at the Damami Taksal and others promoting this as being the "gospel truth" when all it needs is a high power linguistic laboratory to re-evaluate all teh Sodhak phothis and birs (original compeletions etc). God, if he/she wants to ciommunicate with mankind, does it direct !
ksehmi 1 year ago
this bhai saheb has totally wasted his time and mine, i thought he would give some constructive reasons to prove his points. this bhai saheb ji is saying we need not to discover or read history as they have blind faith, i want to ask this person does blind faith help anyone? he failed to explain his point.
happs85 1 year ago
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happs85 1 year ago
jaap sahib , and Kabyovach benati chaupai ...are from Dasam Granth ...u cannot say its fake ........bachitarr natak is controvercial and seems to be not a writing of Sri guru Gobind Singh ji.. read "an opposition analysis' on Sikhiwiki
cjsingh2008 1 year ago
dasam granth is fake and written by RSS
please watch all 6 parts type on utube the following words
" Dasam Granth Exposed Part 1 of 6 "
sand21ever21 1 year ago
@sand21ever21 you are right my friend but i don't know why so many people not accepting the truth. All these people have watched these videos and you know something a donkey is always a donkey, these people have the wisdom of a donkey thats why they don't seem to understand it.
aman113 1 year ago
@aman113 LOL people dont accept it because its BS, claims that are not backed up. Any joey could do that, the weak indviduals in the 'panth' will fall for these lies, the ones who have faith in the Guru will not, please dont be brainwashed by these 'proffessors' and cause breakage in the 'panth' you talk off. I agree with that, a donkey is a donkey, but by saying that it does not make you wiser 'aman' lol.
123456heho 1 year ago
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@123456heho @aman113 I agree with you and I don't know whom to believe. Now I will do my own research on it because there are some things which definately our guru can't say and its my religion and I will take any step to save it weather it is reading history or going to different places and 2ndly we should not discuss it because if it is not original (or original) than by discussing it we are helping those people who want to destroy our religion weather hindi or muslim
sand21ever21 1 year ago
@aman113 I agree with you and I don't know whom to believe. Now I will do my own research on it because there are some things which definately our guru can't say and its my religion and I will take any step to save it weather it is reading history or going to different places and 2ndly we should not discuss it because if it is not original (or original) than by discussing it we are helping those people who want to destroy our religion weather hindi or muslim
sand21ever21 1 year ago
dasam granth is fake and written by RSS
please watch all 6 parts type on utube the following words
" Dasam Granth Exposed Part 1 of 6 "
sand21ever21 1 year ago
dasam granth is fake and written by RSS
please watch all 6 parts link below
sand21ever21 1 year ago
@sand21ever21 I have watched it all theres no proof to all these claims and theorys. Pure propagandha. Now what you need to do is go onto all the well known Sikh websites and see there proof on Dasam Granth being written by the Guru. Seriously you people make me laugh and your the clear minority with your BS claims.
123456heho 1 year ago
oye chup kar tenu kuch ni patta
marjanaaman786 1 year ago
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Akal takht and Damdami Taksal are hijacked by parkash lal badal and indian intelligence to hinder a second uprise. Even if we have the outmost respect for these institutions this is the unfortunate truth. Now is not the time for blind trust. For Gods sake read this book before u go out to the streets protesting against the Prof... this is just what our enemies want..
watch?v=2JxTGE2OtM0
SexyPunjabiMunda 1 year ago
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Akal takht and Damdami Taksal are hijacked by parkash lal badal and indian intelligence to hinder a second uprise. Even if we have the outmost respect for these institutions this is the unfortunate truth. Now is not the time for blind trust. For Gods sake read this book before u go out to the streets protesting against the Prof... this is just what our enemies want..
watch?v=2JxTGE2OtM0
SexyPunjabiMunda 1 year ago
Lakh lahnat ae eho jehe nihanga te.....Koi farak nahi musalman Qazi aur Hindu Pandit aur Sikh Nihang ya fir Sikh granthian wich!!!!!
caprik11 1 year ago
Actually the thing is that Hindu Interference has increased a lot in our religion. An average hindu is very nice and supportive... But I am talking about the hindu's who are funded by Government and organizations like RSS... Government wants to divide the society and rule them absolutely . RSS wants a complete Hindu nation in which there will be NO SIKH, NO MUSLIM, NO CHRISTEN . Sounds funny but it is a fact....! The game is deep and their plan is working perfectly till now.
jagubadsha1983 1 year ago
@jagubadsha1983 Hindus can say what they want but they cant tamper with what the Gurus have said. Every Singh should have faith in there guru not the 'RSS' who are they to make us change our views on reality? because reality is that Sri Dasam granth is written by the great 10th Guru himself. Anyone who disagrees is lost and im suprised they would call themselves Sikhs. Rss does not have 'powers' over Sikhs they cant change Gurbani (just want to make that clear to any Singhs who might think that)
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho You yourself dont know what you are saying...! One should not argue with the person who has lack of common sence....!
jagubadsha1983 1 year ago
@jagubadsha1983 Yeh, you have just proved me wrong!.. NOT. Common sense? ok for starters RSS was founded in the 1920's, Dasam Granth was there waaaaaaay before that everyone knows that. Know tell me this, how did the RSS manage to get into every Gurudawara in front of all the Sikhs and change/alter Dasam Granth? what a load of B......you know the rest. Yes RSS are not to be trusted or even followed let alone listened too. But please dont disrespect the Gurus work, thats just ridiculous.
123456heho 1 year ago
@jagubadsha1983 - 100 % agree
MrRS1981 1 year ago
Hell No, if you dont have faith in Sikhi and want to follow the ammended Dasam Granth and not follow Guru Gobind Singh Ji, then carry on reading the tampered Dasam Granth. Did you not notice in the SGGS there was numbers to end each passage, so that it could never be tampered with....?????
MrRS1981 1 year ago
Dasam Granth was not read upon, as Guru Gobind SIngh Ji said our last Guru would be the SGGS. The Dasam granth was left, and left open to Hindu Extremists and changes to to add the Hindu rituals of Tilak etc. Hence you dont see it in the Gurbani itself. Read up the life of the Guru Gobind Singh Ji and the actual facts he taught, do you really think he would have wrote stuff about doing Jhatka Tilak, everything that is not in the Gurbani?
MrRS1981 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 left to hindus? what a load of rubbish, this is the most exaggerated story i have heard. Hindus have not edited Dasam Granth, if its about the Gods which are mentioned in it (ie Shiva, Durga) Guru Granth Sahib ji has Ram, Shiva among others mentioned in there. It also mention the Koraan, does that mean muslims have tampered with it? lol this is propagandha used by extremists Singhs due to 1984, seriously though, read the paath yourself dont just follow these 'singhs' follow the Guru.
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho - u muppet. thats different, the Granth Sahib is numbered each passage to prove it has not been touched. the Dasam Granth was compiled way after the Guru Granth Sahib. the RSS = Nirankaris are Hindu extremists that wanted to finish off Sikhi, as per Government rules. think about it really, there is nothing that says to fast like hindus and muslims do, there is nothing about drinking cows piss, making a God out of cows shit etc,...
MrRS1981 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 muppet?ur the retard who will leave his gurus words to please the world, and piss himself in front of the RSS. I know who nirankaris are i dont need a explanation for u. Hindu extremists? i think you have been reading too many 1984 articles its polluted your mind from the truth. Where do you think Guru Gobind Singh jis writings went, everyone knows it went into Dasam granth. How the 'RSS' manage to alter it when it was in Gurudawars i dont know, maybe you can make up a bs story.
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho hence Guru Gobind Singh Ji told us to follow the Guru Granth Sahib, NOT the Dasam Granth, research your history before you come up with comments with no foundation. The RSS, nirankaris are all Hindu extremists, even the first president of India, Nehru after the partition, said he was not fond of the beard and turban, he disliked Sikhism as a whole, wanker !
MrRS1981 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 I never said follow it, but if you didnt realise kabyo bach benti chaupai is incorporated into Rehras sahib, that is Guru Gobind Singh jis writing. Do my research? i would be suprised if you even opened a Gotka from the way your preaching this propagandha. Nehru is not my Guru, hence i dont care about Nehru, if u call urself a Sikh open your mind and do some rearch yourself on the Banis and look at Dasam Granth, if you read some of the work it is out of this world.
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho * when i meant dont follow it, as in keep Guru Granth Sahib ji as your Guru as stated by Guru Gobind Singh ji, but dont disrepect the same Guru by insulting his work. Look at the amount of dialect/languages the Dasam Granth is composed off. No hindu RSS could of managed that. It is a very accurate and deep granth, before criticising foolishly without even looking at it with a open mind i suggest you research about it.
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho Not what other 'singhs' say, these same singhs wanted to cut 5 banyiya to 3!!! how ridiculous, they want to introduce chatka! why? - '1984' - yes we know it happened, a cruel holocaust, but dont change Sikhism for world events. The way Sikhs are approaching in response to 1984 i would be suprised if they couldnt be distinguished from a muslim because with the way its going....
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho - chatka I am totally against, its a Hindu ritual, not Sikhism
MrRS1981 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 Hindus are not even supposed to eat meat, how is it a hindu ritual?
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho - from what I have read, they are forbidden to eat beef but there is no ban on any other meat?
MrRS1981 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 Thats a common hindu tradition, for us Sikhs theres a ban on all meat. It doesnt say from what i have read that you are allowed to eat beef or any other meat. Hunting maybe mentioned, but its never written that the hunted animal was eaten, but instead it was said it was the Gurus duty to free some of the souls trapped in animal form - only a Godly being was allowed to do something like that the other Singhs didnt kill the animals from what i know.
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho - is it from this that they do the Jhatka for TIlak as Hazoor Sahib for Holla Maholla? I think only the Gurus could have noticed souls that needed rescuing, not us mortals
MrRS1981 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 Yes your absolutly right, only the Gurus could do such things, but the Singhs ate Hazoor sahib are trying to re inact things which are forbidden to us to even attempt. I dont really know what they doing thinking they can do Jhatka inside darbar sahib as well, i heard they bringt he Goats blood inside as well and put it on the Gurus weapons. - strange.
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho - I suggest you actually realise that there are some people out there (me) that have read the Dasam Granth to even talk about it
MrRS1981 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 Respect to you then for actually reading such a amazing Granth. How did you then come to the conlusion that it was written by a hindu organisation?
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho because of its texts. It contradicts the Sr Guru Granth Sahib, sure most of it is indeed 100% together with the Sri Guru Granth Sahib, but some lines are not. It goes against the teachings of all our Gurus and it goes against Guru Gobind SIngh Ji's memorable quotes - After me, there shall be no more human Guru, let it be known that for all Sikhs, only the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is to be followed. The way the government has acted upon ruthlessly against Sikhs in India.....
MrRS1981 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 None of the texts contradicts Guru Granth Sahib ji. The whole reason Guru Gobind Singh ji compiled Dasam Granth outside of Guru Granth Sahib ji was out of respect for the Guru Granth Sahib ji. Btw nobody is disputing the fact that Guru Granth Sahib ji is not the Guru, furthermore nobody is saying Dasam Granth is the Guru.
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho listen, RS stands for Ranjeet Singh, recognise I dont have a surname before you talk. Hindu extremists, ofcourse, how on earth do you think that the Dasam Grath contradicts the Guru Granth. The good stuff, they kept, for obvious reasons to make it look good. You only have to know about the Gurus teachings and you will realise how the Dasam Granth contradicts it
MrRS1981 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 ok let me ask you then, how does it contradict it?
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho - Shiv, Durga, Waheguru, Bhagwaan, Allah, are all one supreme being, it does not say to follow lord shiv etc, The Guru Granth Sahib states all are from one supreme being, pray to that supreme being, not these God like people, SIkhs own Gurus said that
MrRS1981 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 If you read paath properly and for what it actually says, not what some other singh has told you, it goes the gods are all a form of Waheguru (another name Allah). If you cant comprehend that then i cant help you. They said remember Waheguru since and praise his name since he created these Gods and everything else. It did not say disrespect the Gods anywhere. It takes someone with alot of arrogance to challenge beings that have done more Bhagati then you have in this lifetime.
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho - my initials Ranjeet Singh should already tell you about my lifestyle. There is no surname, why because I follow the Gurus teachings. You are copying what I said, Bhagwaan, Allah, etc they are all God, a part of that supreme immortal being. I have never disrepected any God, can you actually read English. Are you fully reading what I am saying before commenting?
MrRS1981 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 i wasnt copying i was rephrasing what you said.
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho.....partition, this is being followed by the Hindu extremists that run the Indian government, its a shame to see people from India being divided because of stupid backward run government. Dasam Granth contravery - Jhatka....Hindu tradition...... they can only eat Jhatka meat - Hindu tradition, check out the different Rehat Maryadas, they all contradict mainly in meat consumption, cannibas or basic nasha
MrRS1981 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 where does it talk about jhatka in Dasam granth? i have never heard of even read it in there, enlighten me. You sure your not getting confused with Sarbloh Granth because there is controversy there but not with Dasam Granth from my knowledge at all.
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho - I apologise I must have my wires crossed
MrRS1981 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 Please dont apologise to me, if anything you should apologise to Guru ji, me i am nobody.
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho - I just found something on youtube about the Dasam Granth, it is not written by Guru Gobind Singh Ji, as on page 818 it has very bad swear words towards women, and this goes entirely against the Guru Granth Sahib Ji, I have come to a conclusion to keep me safe though, follow the Guru Granth Sahib Ji and recite this only, forget the Sarbloh and Dasam.
MrRS1981 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 I think i know which part your on about, please dont listen to these youtube 'baba' theres these recent 'proffesors o Sikhism' who are making these dodgy theorys up. The section your on abut i think is called Charitar Vikhyan - it does insult women, but it written for Sikhs to be on high guard around women and even men. It tells storys that have already occured in the world and how people trick/betray others for themselves............
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho ........However, it is for the married Sikhs i believe as it can be hard to understand and handle for Single Singhs who are already finding it difficult to handle kaam itself. Theres talk about it on Sikhwiki if you want to have a glance of it for yourself - seriously though brother dont trust these youtube videos look at the info yourself and be the judge
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho EDIT : IT DOES NOT INSULT WOMEN - sorry i was typing very fast.
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho Dasam granth is suggesting god has made the biggest mistake creating women and shiri guru granth sahib ji is saying that raja maharaja take birth from this women then why a women is so degraded. Its only gurbani that gives equal status to women not dasam granth. Furthermore plzz do me a favour and read shiri guru granth sahib ji with meanings and than read dasam granth and see it for yourself. People like you just like to comment on things which they have zilch knowledge about
aman113 1 year ago
@aman113 No Dasam granth does not 'suggest' this. Dasam Granths Charitar Vikhiyan talks about the stupidity of men as well, i can tell you have not read it. Women are not degraded, and for your information women are not perfect 'goddesses' as you seem to wish to believe. It points there flaws so Sikhs dont fall under a womans trap. Many Sikhs are doing this today, losing there religion for women. Again more insults, proves how much faith you have in your own words. (sarcasm again) lol.
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho ' If you cant see God in all, then you cant see God at all ' - hence my apology to you. There is a lot of contraversy but I can only stay true to my Gurus and my religion by following th Guru Granth Sahib Ji only.
MrRS1981 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 Guru Granth Sahib is the Guru and your right, they are the only Guru and come first before anything. The point that i was really trying to make was the fact that i am against people denying the Dasam Granth is not written by Guru Gobind Singh ji because it was. Reading it though is another matter, and like you said Guru Granth Sahib ji should be followed first.
123456heho 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 P.S with a name like MR RS 1981 i wouldnt be suprised if you are a RSS you seem to have two of the intials proudly in your name. (no offence - just a question)
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho - lol, God Bless you
MrRS1981 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 You too.
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho - ........before they got kicked out of India. They set a seed with the Governing body, it is now harvesting in front of our very eyes, Indira Gandhi made many promises, so did Mahatma Gandhi, to the SIkhs, because of the Sikhs position for fighting for free India, a Hindu dominant country. Even then it the promises were not asked for, as 1984 goes, I read from a few British journalists, of the 80s, not the ones who wanted to divide and seperate India just b4 paritition...
MrRS1981 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 Can i just say without being offensive, what you have just typed is pure propagandha. Did you know the Dasam Granth is in Harimandir Sahib and has been there for some time, even during 1984. Can i also just say there is no way that the Dasam Granth which is at least 300 years old could of been altered in the last 25 years. If you dont like indian people thats up to you, but why you turning your back on the Sikh religion? your taking the piss out of your own Gurus words 4 indiragandhi ?
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho - that does make sense but, then why are there also many websites and youtube videos that show the contradiction within the Dasam Granth??? Please check them and let me know what you think
MrRS1981 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 yeah your right, ive seen a few of them and quite frankly there pretty much disrespecting themselves (thats if they call themselves Sikhs) and there Gurus. Alot of this anti-dasam granth stuff started mainly after 1984. When the indian government attacked and anti-sikh riots which followed was done by Hindu politicians, modern day Sikhs are trying to remove any connection with the Hindu religion..............
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho In Dasam Granth it does talk about the 'Hindu deitys' but the fact is, they do not belong to the Hindu religion which Extreme Sikhs tend to believe after 1984. Because Dasam Granth talks neutrally about all of Gods creations These 'fake Gianis' are finding excuses to go against the Paath saying it was altered etc, but there is no proff of this and in fact there theory is flawed. The DasamGranth is composed of numerous languages including Persian (parsi), Sanskrit, Pashtu and Panjabi
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho ........ Now if Rss did truely edit it, would they include persian, pashtu (afghani) into it? theyre also anti muslim arent they?? At the end of the day the best thing is, is to read it for what it is the Words of Guru Gobind Singh Ji. If you read it, it also says the Guru doesnt worship Krishna or Vishnu or even seek blessings of the Gods (Ganesh). - a clear flaw in the RSS theorys.
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho ...............Dasam Granth is not to be read by begginers though (this is my opnion) as its very deep and can confuse someone who has not read Guru Granth Sahib ji. The way for mukti is Guru Granth Sahib ji, for extra knowledge and interest of Gods creations then i would advise reading Dasam Granth ji but not at the expense of not reading Guru Granth Sahib ji first. - sorry for the long explanation.
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho last note, remeber I said the the different Rehat Maryada contradict each other, there is one that sayd we can only eat meat which is not halal ritual, AKJ says we cannot and eat from only sarbloh untensils, its these small things, if anything, when Guru Gobind Singh Ji created the Rehat Maryada, I doubt very much he wanted different versions of it, this breaks Sikhism as a whole, goes against the teachings that everyone is equal?
MrRS1981 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 Ur right there is only one Rehat Maryada as the Guru wanted. Again, its the modern Singhs who think they have enough knowledge to change traditions/Rehats. AKJ are a known sect of Sikhs and do not represent Sikhs as a whole, i usually disagree with alot of there new made philosphies along with many others - although there kirtan is pretty good on balance. My last point as well: Gurmukh follows his Guru only, a Manmukh follows his Maan(emotions) - let 1984 not lead us away from truth.
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho Dasam granth is not our guru our guru is only Shiri Guru Granth Sahib ji. We don't need any other granth or book besides shiri guru granth sahib ji. If our only guru is Shiri Guru Granth Sahib Ji then what is the problem why are you all fighting. Spend this time instead reading bani from shiri guru granth sahib ji. Dasam granth is telling us that our god is mahakal, and Shiri Guru Granth Sahib ji is saying ram nam simar tu jivey phir na khai mahakal. Bani paro samjo then talk.
aman113 1 year ago
@aman113 Common basis of Sikhism, follow you Guru. Does that mean you dont read Guru Gobind Singh ji's writing? If we dont need Dasam Granth why ha sit been written by the Guru? Mahakal is a God so whats your point? God has many names. This argueing is caused by the people who claim no need for Dasam Granth, and then in times of war they run back To Guru Gobind Singh jis writing.
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho where is your proof that dasam granth is written by guru gobind singh ji, and yes you are right god has many names however the god described in dasam granth is not the same as god described in shiri guru granth sahib ji. Furthermore I have quoted from gurbani and gurbani is saying keep away from mahakal so you are telling me i shouldn't listen to what gurbani is saying? Go learn the meaning of that verse and if u have any brain cells left u will understand.
aman113 1 year ago
@aman113 Where is your proof it isnt wirtten by them? omg i already went thorugh this, read my previous comments. This is getting out of order. Your quotes dont prove anything, in fact it says repeat Rams name. Can you give me a link to where this verse is from, or information where you got this quote from? Does Gurbani teach you to insult other people as well?? 'brain cells'? oh yeah your defo a Gurmukh lol (sarcasm).
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho I get every thing now you are an a RSS agent, plz don't send me any more comments i have to time for your stupidity, if you believe that dasam granth is important to u then so be it. I will like to say one more thing to you have fun worshiping your mahakal and i will worship my akal purkh ok
aman113 1 year ago
@aman113 YouR talk is more BS then the RSS claims. Your 'proffessors' are causing breakage in this so called panth you speak about. To even say im RSS as a response to the fact its SCIENTIFICALLY roven to be writeen by Guru Ji shows you have no arguement against that. lol How you gonna worship Akal purkh? thats what Guru Gobind Singh ji did, you are no Avatar mate (although you may think you are).
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho What are you talking about in times of war i don't get that. Do you mean that we require dasam granth to make our self shapahi? Thats an old argument people put up who are standing for dasam granth. You are forgetting there were war before guru gobind singh ji. Miri Piri de malik Guru tegh bhadur ji were great soliders. Guru ji got his name tegh bhadur due to his highly classified skills with the tegh. So no dasam granth was present at that time so how can u say we need it now?
aman113 1 year ago
@aman113 Dasam Granth was made for war, you wouldnt know that since you dont seem to know anything about Dasam Granth. Old arguement? are you suggesting your arguements against Dasam Granth ji is recent (ie after 1984) therefore not reliable? When happened to the 40 mukteh? how was that possible? The Guru was a Avatar (form of God), Dasam Granth is meant for us, Duh (ie we are not avatars therefore we cannot perform great acts on our own lol). I didnt say we need Dasam Granth now, theres no war.
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho Either you have been brainwashed or you just don't want to accept the truth, wake up there is still time and if you don't wish to wake then plz do me and the panth a big favour stop telling me that dasam granth is guru gobind singh ji's writing. Have you ever heard of markandepuran and shivpuran if you haven't go do the research and find out how dasam granth is an exact copy of those hindu granths.
aman113 1 year ago
@aman113 HAHA ive been brainwashed? coming from someone who is using arguements created by these modern 'proffessors' of Sikhism, who are avereage joes like you & me? haha. Im not afraid of these groups you mention & therefore will not sacrifice the truth of the Gurus words for your propagandha philosophy. The writing of Dasam granth has scientifically proven to match Guru Gobind Singh ji, & there is even a letter from Bhai Mani singh ji clearly saying writings of Dasam granth are of Guru Ji.
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho Explain that, use your made up 'proffesor of Sikhism' philosophys to go against even science. Clear flaw in all the theorys you mentioned, ridiculous really that a 'Sikh' would go to so much effort to degrade a great piece of Granth written by what he calls his own Guru, for the sake of the 'proffesors'. Just because parts of granths match parts of granths of other religions does not make it fake/unreliable. Even Bhindranwale respected Hindu Mandirs, was he hindu? ridiculous.
123456heho 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 How can you pray to the supreme being if you cant see him? dont you need a form to see him first? theres two types of bhagati in Sikhism, nirgun and hargun. Hargun is with a form. Like the Gurus, you could picture the Gurus as God (since thats what they were). Or why not Shiva? what difference does it make if the jot is within all these God like beings? The aim is to reach Waheguru through these two types of Bhagati.
123456heho 1 year ago
@123456heho Gurus teachings are that there is jot within all, if we cannot see that in all, then we cannot see God at all. There are reasons things happen in this world, only the supreme Lord knows, if we can read upon all our Guru's teachings, none of them contradict each other???? so why does the Granths, and all the different Rehat Maryada's, why???? because of interfering RSS agents working for the Indian government, and why... the root of the problem lies wihin the British before they...
MrRS1981 1 year ago
@MrRS1981 The Rehat Maryadas dont contradict each other though, if you think they do then give me a good example Where Passages of Dasam Granth ji dont follow Guru Granth Sahib ji,
123456heho 1 year ago
i heard that Nihang don't have brain, but today i saw the reality. it is true. they want whole sikh generation to be illiterate and just a fun for movies and other people. Accactually they have never come out of dera's and are far away from reality of life.
Sikhiable 1 year ago
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jaggicheema91 1 year ago
have u ever read dasam granth? if so then see all the contridiction with the Guru Granth Sahib then u will understand.
urtrueindian 1 year ago
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gurpritsingh83 1 year ago
waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh you fools ek doosaray ki taangae kichena band karoo if you dont want follow then stop doing Jaapsahib, Tavprasad savaiye , chaupai saib ok it is dasam bani jaap ji saib te anand saib naal apna nitnem pura nahee hunda k aagar oppose karna hai tou pahelay dasam de bani nu pado jano it is judh mai bani
TheKhadku 1 year ago
@TheKhadku Actually have you ever read Guru Granth sahib?? If you would have you would not talk like that. And about Jaap Sahib and savaiye. In each and every verse Guru is talking about one supreme soul..Not any diety of self proclaimed human God.
jagubadsha1983 1 year ago
@TheKhadku So now If I am a notorious, witty RSS type person I will write my own Book in which I will talk about the silly things that I follow and add Guru's Bani That is Jaap sahib in that book to prove its piety and rightfulness then it would be easy for me to fool the people who do not have the knowledge of SGGS.
jagubadsha1983 1 year ago
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gurpritsingh83 1 year ago
dasam book is a fake implant
DollyKaurLopez 1 year ago
what are you talking about?
jis guru shri guru gobind singh ji ne sanu " guru manyo granth " da hukumnama ditta si.
usi guru di gal nu apan chad daiye.......
te is vichitra natak no apne guru de naal isthan daiyen.
aap ta RSS de chamche ho ta unah de tankhaya kyo nahi ban jande....... guru di fauj hauke bhi guru di gal nahi mande.
shame on you anb tarna dal. paiseyan de lalchi.
acagurmeet 1 year ago
MY DEAR NIHANG FRIEND.... YOU REALLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT ARE YOU PEARCHING AGAINST SIKHISM.. DASAM NATAK IS SHIT... The granth was given different names at different times in the following order:
a) Bachittar Natak
B) Daswen Patshah ka Granth
c) Dasam Granth
d) Sri Dasam Granth
e) Sri Dasam Granth Sahib
f) Sri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib
These names are very misleading, and the pity is that these have been given by individuals, small organizations or publishers who wish to confuse sikhs
Dolly0rkut 1 year ago
I cannot believe the fact that 2 comments I posted a while have been deleted. Was it because I posted excerpts from the dasam granth and exposed its truth? What kind of a propaganda is this bit singh? I am sure you'll delete this post too then. Disgusting. Phite moo tere befkoof.
nworb 1 year ago
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gurpritsingh83 1 year ago
@gurpritsingh83 no bani from the GGS is in it you tard.
KillinDaWelfareMCs 1 year ago
Nihang Singh ji Murakh te tusi ho jo ik pase Guru Gobind Singh Ji da naam lehnde ho te ek taraf unna da hukam nahi mandde,,,
Sab Sikhan ko Hukam he Guru Maneyo Granth,,,,,,,
i request u ,,,,murakh pana chad deya ,,,te pehle Ja ke Pado ....fir fasla karo....u cant even read along with ur family,,,,
so plz follow Guru Gobind Singh ji's Order,,,,,Guru Maneyoo Granth
sholey001 1 year ago
sholey! you talking about the gurus, and then using bad language doesnt give a good example, u can make your point without using maa man diya gaalan!
so please refrain from using such unfitting language.
waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki fateh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
singhakabuttar 1 year ago
What a ignorant person this guy is. I just wasted my time listening to this video.
What else to say !!
singhtothecore 2 years ago 2
is nihangh singha nu e pata granth sahib ke hunda? ane anpadh nihanga nu sukha pilay ke kuj ve khalia ja sakda ?is nu pushae koi ling de kine ke matlab hunde ne ?das dave kutta nighang singh ? badhi guru gobind singh ji de foajj? londar kutta vangoo poonsh latta vich de ke bhajj jan gae .badi ladlin fujh labni be ne kethe gai ? je ane he hundae ta vihari kutta bhaia ludhiana vich bhokan de himatt na karda?ladli fuaj .khali sukha nu khoota la ke ne sher ban jie da k tta bhook keve javae
grewal435 2 years ago
Very god speech Khalsa ji . Every thing true you have said .
ssdsweden 2 years ago
@ssdsweden Yoy are as good as this mahamoorkh nang singh.
sesid58 1 year ago
waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh.bai mai iek punjabi kattad jatt jagirdar haa.atte mera sirr tyah sirf shri guru granth sahib ji aagge hi jhukda haye kisse dasam granth aagge nahie.atte ayah maachhod nihangh kahe reha haye ki kill all those sikhs who dont worship dasam granth.ish nihangh di maa da fudda behenchhod kutta haye salla dalla ayah nihangh.tere warge gandu nihangh assi bahut gaddi chadde hann.ayah bahenchhoda mere nall gall karr jehri karni haye.u are telling to kill innocent
jatts11 2 years ago 2
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ ॥ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਹਿ ॥
"Sab Sikhan Ko Hukam Hai Guru Maneyo Granth"
by Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji.
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ ॥ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਹਿ ॥
paulcheba 2 years ago 2
At the end... is he asking us to kill those who have a diferent opinion? I listened several times... 'os di seva kar deyo... jaani taur te'.
Bewakufi di hadd !
likoman12 2 years ago
pen dya yaara kapre nu vatt painda saala ghuggi dyan pranya cd's sunke kahani pai janda shri guru granth saab ton utte kuch nai sikha lai i believe dis so koummi mudde shadd ke savere guru granth sahib ji da paath saare karan lag pao sab theek ho jau god bless u all
jeevanjot31 2 years ago
i was listening this speech very carefully (cos of a nihang singh speaking) but when he said " DASAM SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI" then i immediately understood his whole motive of speech and for whom he is speaking.
gadssm 2 years ago 2
Veer g eta man lenea k eh sari dasam patshah di bani a. Par mainu eh samaj ni aayee ke eh dasam sri guru granth sahib kion bolde ne.hun tak tan sikhan da guru keval guru granth sahib c. Guru word keval sikh 10 guruan layee Jan satgur granth sahib layee hi use karde NE. Sham on u guys
kharhkoo1 2 years ago
ਇਸ ਅਖੌਤੀ ਗਰੰਥ ਦੇ ਗੰਦ ਨੂੰ ਤੁਸੀ ਦਸਮ ਪਾਤਸਾਹ ਦੀ ਰਚਨਾ ਦੱਸਦੇ ਹੋ ਤੇ ਦਿਮਾਗ ਸਾਡੇ ਗੰਦੇ ਕਹਿੰਦੇ ਹੋ, ਤੁਸੀਂ ਚਰਿਤਰੋ ਪਾਖਿਆਨ ਕੀ ਇਸ
amangill10 2 years ago
ਗਰੰਥ ਦਾ ਕੁਝ ਵੀ ਪੜਿਆ ਨੀ ਲਗਦਾ ਤਾਂ ਹੀ ਨੀ ਕੋਈ ਗਲਤ ਗੱਲ ਲੱਗੀ ਇਸ ਤੋਂ ਵੱਧ ਅਸ਼ਲੀਲਤਾ ਤਾਂ ਕੋਕ ਸਾ਼ਸਤਰ 'ਚ ਵੀ ਨੀ ਹੋਣੀ ਜਿਹਨੂੰ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਗੁਰੂ ਦੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਕਹਿੰਦੇ ਹੋ
amangill10 2 years ago
ਸਿੱਖੀ ਦਾ ਸਿਧਾਂਤ ਆ 'ਇਕਾ ਬਾਣੀ ਇਕੁ ਗੁਰ' ਫਿਰ ਇਹ ਦੂਜਾ ਗੁਰੂ ਥਾਪ ਕੇ ਪੰਥ 'ਚ ਵੰਡੀਆਂ ਕੀਹਨੇ ਪਾਈਆਂ? ਸਿੱਖ ਰਹਿਤ ਮਰਿਯਾਦਾ ਦੇ ਬਰਾਬਰ ਹੋਰ ਮਰਿਯਾਦਾ ਬਣਾ ਕੇ ਕੀਹਨੇ ਵੰਡੀਆਂ ਪਾਈਆਂ ?
amangill10 2 years ago
ਅੱਖਾਂ ਖੋਲ ਕੇ ਦਿਮਾਗ ਦੇ ਢੱਕਣ ਚੱਕ ਕੇ ਇੱਕ ਵਾਰ ਇਸ ਗਰੰਥ ਨੂੰ ਨਿਰਪੱਖਤਾ ਨਾਲ ਪੜ ਲਓ ਅਤੇ ਨਾਲ ਗੁਰੂ ਗਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਨਾਲ ਪਰਖ ਕੇ ਦੇਖੋ
amangill10 2 years ago
tusi jine vi darshan singh de chele ho, kise nu vi bolan da nahi pata. prof. vi SRI DASAM GRANTH di nindiya karai janda. tusi vi sare bhedan di tran magar lage ho. BADDE SIANE BANE PHIRDE. SARE YOUTUBE TE GAND PAYEA PIA TUSIN. KHERU KHERU KARTA SARA PANTH TUSIN LOKAN NE.
iroc3 2 years ago
Babaji Guda da matlab patta thanu, Land da hor koi arth hai punjabi vich. yah affem bhang yah sharab de koi hor arth vi hun, yah pher balsaffa kise hor kum vi aundi hai. kirpakar ke jawab jarrur dena ji.
amanmalout 2 years ago
nihang singh saab ne jo keha, bilkul sahi keha.
jehre mere veer nu mircha lagdian, guru maharaj ji agge ardaas kare ke jo maharaj ji tuhanu vi sumatt bakhshan.
jo muh vich ounda, baki jaande.
khalsaforlife 2 years ago
Wow,... trying to justify Bachitar natak using NRI jokes..THese Nihang should be shamefull of themselves. When all punjab was dying in 80s these were enjoying special treatments from " sikha ke dushman'... Wearing blue cothes and all sikh kakar dosent just make you any scholar..... he said sikhs do not need to read any history ......bullshit
harpreetsembhi 2 years ago
u should b ashamed of yourself. what did u do?
khalsaforlife 2 years ago
U better not try to justify these crooks ... I know all the truths about them... santa singh de chele and puhle de bhakat...
Killer of innocent sikhs, .. u need more. tell me
harpreetsembhi 2 years ago
why would you believe in them and their bana, when u have no faith Tenth Guru Sahibaan. just listen what they say u ignorant.
khalsaforlife 2 years ago
I dont have to get my faith notarized by you or your Nishangs
I just believe in Guru Granths sahib no body else If Guru Gobind singh wanted to add anything to Guru Granth sahib He could have but he didnt so these morons have no right to Parkash along with guru granth sabib.
What do they know aboyt Sikhism any way they are just crooks of RSS agentsCongress de agents.
Another try to divide and rule sikhs
harpreetsembhi 2 years ago
@harpreetsembhi: u r the victim of divide and rule.
so u dont believe in Amrit? in which 3 of the 5 banis are read from Dasam Granth?
khalsaforlife 2 years ago
I do believe in AMRIT as well as in the banis in Nitnem. All of the Dasam granth doesnt follow the basic roots of Sikhism. It contradicts the basic principles of Sikhism. It is been changed over last 300 hundred years with great conspiracy from other groups. Any logical barin can say, Guru Gobind singh ji will not authenticate the whole dasgranth himself. We need follow only those parts from it which are in accordance with Shri Guru Granth saab.
harpreetsembhi 2 years ago
Although whatever we say, Dasam Granth was never and will ever be equal or greater then Sri Guru Granth Saab (as presently done by many institutions in Sikhism). I dont think I can read the parts from Dasam Granth and assume Guru Gobind singh has written those. As being a victim of divide and rule.. so you are one too and all those who denies even a healthy discussion and do not hesitate to hit below the belt by saying Sikhs who challenge your point of view are not good enough Sikhs.
harpreetsembhi 2 years ago
ur answer is not clear.
if u think the 3 banis of Amrit from Dasam are not Tenth Guru's ceation... "then u should kill urself physically cuz ur 'zameer' is already dead."
khalsaforlife 2 years ago
So typical comment from you, moron... I never said Three banis are not written by 10 Guru... Try to read english correctly..I am for sure saying whole dasam granth is not written by 10 guru you fake sikh withhidden agenda of diminising gurr granth saab.
Shame on you and you type of Dharam de thekedaar... why not you just kill yourself and you are fake sikh who believe i other banis more then Guru granth saab. You people have done enough damage to sikhism... read read and read before argument
harpreetsembhi 2 years ago
menu koi shanka nai apne Guru Sahib te.
Sri Dasam Granth Sahib vich koi galat gall nai.
thode dimaag hi gande aa.
khalsaforlife 2 years ago
well 22ji aapna ehna level te hai nhi ki aapa decide kr skiye ki kehdi bani kis guru di aa...baki main bhai santokh singh te bhai mani singh nu challange ta kr nhi skda...si pretty much oh jo kehnde aa main ohi man da aa
Martyr23mar 2 years ago
our only guru is shri guru granth sahib ji......so called dasam granth before known as bachitar natak is not our guru........guru granth sahib ji de larh lago sikho...wjkwjf
harry8206 2 years ago
eh guru ka sikh ni haiga.......saada sirf ik guru aa....shri guru granth sahib ji......sab sikhan ko hukum hae guru maaniyo granth..........kisse hor granth di brabari guru granth sahib ji naal ni kiti jaa sakdi....wjkwjf
harry8206 2 years ago 4
bahmana ne aapne SHIV puraan kitaab KAMASUTRA kitaab MAARKANDE puraan kitaab 2 hor .. kathiyan kar k paiya te 2 percent baani paayi aa means GURU JI DE HAQ d gal kiti hai taa k SIKH KAUM no lage k eh granth sachi GURU GOBIND SINGH ji da hai
s00rma1 2 years ago 3
eh baba nihung ja taan kharidiyaa RSS da ja fer es ne pareya nahi DHAN DHAN GURU GOBIND SINGH ji baare ki likhiya ehde vich
s00rma1 2 years ago 2
Nihang( nang) nu tey bhang pia key hi kharidia ja sakda hai, bhuta paisa kharchan di lorr nahi hai.
sesid58 1 year ago
These babey are talking crap and blind faith. dont listen to other people read dasm granth your self there is plenty of information on U TUBE now including research by bibi Jugraj kaur. Dasm Granth is INSULT to our father GURU GOBIND SINGH JI. wake up khalsa ji we are still being hunted the only way to fight back is to study and belive in SGGS only and prey may waheguru show us the right way forward. WJKKWJKF
jeety44 2 years ago
Let's not use the word INSULT to GURU...knowingly that the topic is under debate..No-one is sure of what happened in History & its all about conflict of Logic....whereas on one hand we have scholars like Kala Afghana and Gyani Darshan Singh, let's not forget that eminent Scholars like Sant Maskeen and Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale supported the theory that Dasam Granth is a creation of the Guru Gobind Singh..I join you in prayers that let Waheguru show us the right way forward. WJKKWJKF
tejimonster 2 years ago
If no one is sure what happened, then we can go to SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB and see if the teachings of the two conflict with each other - and you know what they do by miles. Hence you can be sure most of the writings in DG are not of guru jis and they are there to discredit the great master. If scholars like maskeen ji and sant bhindranwale supported the theory of dasm granth, then how come they never spoke of the certain explicit stories linked to Guru Gobind Singh Ji in sangat.....cont.
jeety44 2 years ago
It is agreed that there wasnt much research and understanding of these subjects in early days and all scholars accepted it as fact what was available to them then. However, as there is now considerable amount of research via various means, the facts are beginning to come clear and those scholars brave enough and dedicated enough to their religion and guru, are begining to speak out. But blind faith is not easy to expel. Khalsa will prevail said Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji....WJKKWJKF
jeety44 2 years ago
we are human being and guru gobidn singh is god who tehf uck we suppoe to listen these pakahandi babay who dosent even exist in sikh religion y cant ehey belive in guru granth sahib y do people start beliving some humans that mean guru gobidn singh ji is lier? shame on u people
sanjosestateboy 2 years ago
jo koi galat bolda hai dasam granth je bare....usdi seva kar deo......maar deo salle darshan nu
bikkubadmash 2 years ago
Go khalsa ji
midlandex 2 years ago
Anyone opposing guru jis dasam Granth call me 1 604 518 3987 I will gladly serve you
sammimann 2 years ago
serve what ?? ohnu aap parla veer ohi bhot aa.. serve karan da kadi tere dimaag vich v nahi auna .. tainu ehni sharam auni oh bachitar natak parde noo .. ehna gand likheya vich ohde GURU GOBIND SINGH JI MAHRAJ baare
s00rma1 2 years ago
Is SGGS not complete?? that we must turn to other sources that may or may not be written by Guru Gobind Singh ji???
g0jeeta 2 years ago
banda 5 cheezaan to bhrasht hunda te kaam ohna cho ik aa...je krodh, ahnkaar,lobh te likhia ja skda te kaam te kio nhi likhiaa ja skda...same guruji did... try to understand d concept...
Martyr23mar 2 years ago
Dasamgrath guru gobind singh ji da likhia granth aa..kyuki is vich koi brahm gyan di gal nhi kiti so iss nu guru granth sahib ji to alag rakhya gya hai...je tusi triya charitr di gal kr rhe ho ta us vich female charitar di gal kiti gyia..te dasya gya hai jado aaurat di character bharasht hunda hai ta ki hunda hai...baki rahi 24 avtaar di gal...us time vich sare granth brahmna kol hunde c te oh baki lokan nu ved te granth padan nhi dinde c...so guru ji ne ehna avtaara di gal kiti aa
Martyr23mar 2 years ago
veer ehna jada gand DHAN DHAN GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI de mathe te naa marr... ehno sirf par lai .. ehi chauna mai .. ton ehno par lai j ton paran ton baad fer es kaali kitaab de haq vich reha te sir mera juti teri ... j ton SACHA SIKH HAI GURU da te TRUE teachings dasna chaunda duniya no APNE GURU ji d .. te ehno pad lai aa mai msg karan laga tainu 2-3 vedios baare eh bachitar natak diya oh v veer jaroor dekhi
s00rma1 2 years ago
bitsingh or who so ever u are.. check out the dasam granth exposed all parts then tell others about this so called granth.. when guru gobind singhji himself told all the sikhs to worship only shri guru granth sahib ji who r u people to tell us to worship this vulgar book.. have some respect dude..
gillseattle 2 years ago
people who have no knowledge of our 10 guru u do not dare sy anything aginst ther teachinz
84WAKEUP 2 years ago
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What they want to proove by doing this? We have only and only one guru that is Shri guru granth sabhib ji. Guru gobind singh ji himself give gurgaddi to SGGS and ordered us (not request) to accept it. I just wanted to ask one thing did guru ji ordered to anyone in sangat or to anyone else that we have to accept dasam granth as guru too? If not then why these people (looking as sikh) are doing these cheap things? Why they didnt argue when Pof. Darshan Singh ji spoke on Dasam granth at Huzur Sahib
panthkhalsa007 2 years ago 4
Panthkhalsa007, BANI HAI GURU, GURU HAI BANI, stated in Guru Granth Sahib Jee Maharaj! THE PANJ BANIA WE DO, 3 OF WHICH ARE DASAM BANI, Tav Prasaad Svaiye, Chaupai Sahib and Jaap Sahib! Taksali and Nihang Singhs keep both Granths on the same level. So hence it is common sense to accept Dasam Guru Granth Sahib Jee as Guru. If we don't, we are defying our Panj Bania as Gurbani, and just - 'scriptures' Waheguroo - *NO KHALSA PANTH WITHOUT SRI DASAM GURU GRANTH*
BhindranwaleKiFauj 2 years ago
"SRI DASAM GURU GRANTH"?
I thought SGGS and NOT the Dasam Granth was the guru of Sikhs?
Why are you referring to Dasam Granth as Guru?
g0jeeta 2 years ago
maybe if you had taken time to read my previous comment, you'd know why i reffered to it as Guru. ' Baani Hai Guru, Guru Hai Baani' interpret that correctly and there will be no reason for questions :)
BhindranwaleKiFauj 2 years ago
Its very clear that bani(only SGGS) is guru, and what that quote means (nothing similar to what you are implying).
This wedgingof the word "Guru" in 'Dasam Granth', is a very cheap tactic friend.
g0jeeta 2 years ago
So from that I'm gathering that you believe Jaap Sahib, Chaupai Sahib, Tav Prasad Svaiye, Akaal Ustat, Bachittar Natak etc. all of which are not Gurbani?
BhindranwaleKiFauj 2 years ago
PanthKhalsa's views have been spammed for no reason. This shows the backwardness of the person who did so. Such people are cowards, and cannot face the arguments of another person. Instead, they plug their ears or WORSE they CENSOR free speech!
g0jeeta 2 years ago
Whatever is written by guru gobind singh in dasam granth, u say its disgusting... r u a sikh ? thats what this video says ...listen it carefully.. if u have proper knowledge of dasam granth then only post a comment...
bitsingh 3 years ago