Law School Socratic Experience at CUNY Law - Eli Federman

[SagaciousSilence]

Law school is bull-shittingly easy.

[14ATruther]

Why don't you study the greatest law school secret of all... "Status" of the American Citizen... Or the 14a subject class citizen. Did you know that when the 14a was passed not a single united States State Citizen's citizenship was altered in any manner? It created a new sub-class citizenship... gave citizenship to corporations, but didnt change a single Constitutional American's Citizenship... So why do you think the Article 1 Section 10 Clause 1 contractual citizenship is now being pitched?

[CabriniGreene]

@14ATruther shut the fuck up

[TheJoeyD27]

A lot of guys I know spent 150,000-200,000 grad on law school plus interest and are unemployed or have a job for 40,000 grand a year. What difference does it make anymore what law school you go to?

[TheJoeyD27]

People that finish at CUNY Law find out that they are making almost the same amount of money after graudation as those that spent hundreds of thousands at private law schools. Unless you go to Yale, law school is not a fast track to riches. Take it as you will.

[wickedzeus56]

@TheJoeyD27 if you tell yourself that enough times maybe it will come true?

[zulujamaica1]

one word...michael jackson

[zulujamaica1]

one word.....michael jackson

[Energie411]

This sounds like the necessity defense (i.e. choice of evils defense) usually taught in criminal law towards the end of the term

-Justification (natural force)-->Negates actus reus

**Check out the "Toops v. State" for further insight on this on the "clean hands" element, which is often in dispute

This teacher seem pretty cool unlike other profs who, from what i hear, seem to get off making students look stupid

[Spitzer180]

this is wussy: too soft, genial and informal

extended bouts of laughter and collegiate frolic have absolutely no place in a Socratic pressure cooker

[Quadruplator]

The Socratic Method is not meant to be a "pressure cooker". It's just a very ingenious way of "ping-pong'ing" if you will.

I myself has had a lot of Socratic lessons, and I think it was very beneficial and entertaining for the whole class.

Doctor of Juridical Science.

[elliebartowski]

well, I think you did a good job with Nelson v. State.

That was my favorite course in my first term.

[latinlord92]

CUNY law is in Queens/ flushing NY... Great priced school. My friend is actually applying there right now... Hopefully he will get in!! I already graduated law school from another state... I like the mics... my school didn't have mics... you had to SCREAM if you sat in the back...haha

[Backwoodsmen]

1) This is the #1 public interest school in the nation and

2) according to U.S. News and World Report has one of the highest ranked clinical programs (#6 in the nation ahead of both Harvard and Yale!)

3) Tuition is very affordable compared to other private schools where you end up in hundreds of thousands in debt once you graduate

[Backwoodsmen]

4) Graduates are emlployed in the following areas (given that its the #1 public interest school most graduates go into the public sector):

Public Interest organizations, Legal Services Offices,

Government Institutions, The Court System (I believe every circuit is represented), Legislative and Executive Branches, Educational institutions, Labor law employers, Private law firms & legal departments.

[34thstreetman]

This professor seems interesting. Are the others like him? Is he an adjunct?

[Lightchannel]

???

[798389]

This brings back memories.....

[spider10101]

Your professor let you off the hook. The Socratic method has the professor asking only questions and stating hypos to you. All your doing is filing in the blanks. I'm sure you have a good school and your professor seems like a good teacher, but I would not characterize this as a tough recitation. The idea of the Socratic method is that you are questioned and you learn by answering the question. I personally hated it, but again this is Socratic lite.

[Backwoodsmen]

This was my first semester of law school. The profs cut us some slack.

He does ask some hypothetical in the end to get at the underlying policy and test the limits of the doctrine but you are right this is a very mild form of the Socratic method.

[FunnyGuy656]

haha is that the girl from the office next to you

[maggie2006stl]

Wow Jeff needs to change up his act a bit. This year was exactly the same. (I'm watching this instead of studying for my K final)

[RonenLeviYitzchak]

Um, I keeping my opinion of lawyers to myself.

[MrFrankBullitt]

Looks incredibly boring... good luck, though

[Backwoodsmen]

CUNY had an 83% bar passage rate last year -- higher than the state average. Approximately 90% of CUNY Law graduate are employed after nine months from graduation.

[cr500rebuild]

Employed as what? Isn't this a lowly ranked school?

[saltheshoe]

I was thinking of applying to CUNY Law School after finishing my master's degree at John Jay College. I heard good things and bad things about CUNY Law. Low tuition and books. More than 50% of the graduates not being able to pass the bar or get a job after six months of finishing there. Someone with limited means, this seems the place to go. Any advise?

[nocomply234]

CUNY is a very good law school now; however, though the same can't be said of the school 5-10 years ago, when there was a "pass/fail" grading system and 50% bar passage rate.

Now CUNY has an actual grading system, and it weeds out the students with poor grades.

Considering the high price for law school, it's a catch; though the school is rather selective in terms of accepting applicants (i.e., they are big on diversity).

[34thstreetman]

Diversity? What do you mean? Whites not allowed?

[theonlyhk]

Is that Jainy next to you?  This must be CUNY...

[mcole1982]

what law school is this?