@dragonmaster613 Exactly what I think, the ACLU is just an organisation that defends the civil liberties of all citizens in the constitution. They have defended all sorts of clients (i.e both government sponsored religion and the rights of religious groups to exist) which proves your point..
The idea of Christmas is now santa clause and christmas trees
What Christmas should embody is jesus and the birth of christ, to protect a christmas tree only involves a non-religious item. The ACLU does not fight for religious bodies at all, only tries to impose themselves when they step out of line.
@uarecheap by the government. He doesn't like when the government offends it's people by playing favorites. He's already done a video in support of the individual freedoms of citizens to be offensive.
Fight for Jesus birthday holiday is a MUST KEEP until His return. Liberals hate what is right, and this is a fight of all fights. Especially the ACLU, and Liberalveiwer.
@macdogq You didn't even watch the video did you? The Constitution says that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof... The ACLU fights FOR individual rights of religious expression and AGAINST government endorsement of any ONE religion. I'm all for that. I happen to love Christmas and even though I'm an agnostic, judging from their actions I respect the teachings of Jesus a great deal more than many christians.
@Darrylizer1 Our founders has written the constitution about freedom, and our founders have received wisdom from our God in which constitution was written.
Christianity is not a religion, or a establishment. Christianity is a faith based
movement that continues to fight for our......guess what.......FREEDOM!! Maybe if you go to a faith based church, you might actually learn something that our founders did.
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sure the ACLU fights for christmas, whenever too many people manage to see past their cover as a communist antichristian antiwhite anti western hate group
3 For the customs of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.
4 They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter
5 Like a scarecrow in a melon patch, their idols cannot speak; they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do no harm nor can they do any good."
they may fight for a christmas tree, but at the same time they fight to have nativity scenes taken down. a christmas tree to me is not a religious symbol at all.
The aclu does not support individual causes they support principles. They supported privacy when the govt wanted Rush Limbaughs medical records not because they think the bloated drug addled gas bag is someone they like but that the principle of privacy is important for us all.
I don't think it's fair to say they "support" NAMBLA, they represented them in one case on freedom of speech grounds, and made it clear that they do not support their positions. They only "support" them in the same sense that they "supported" neo-Nazi's in the Skokie case, and you can't seriously be arguing that the ACLU agrees with the political positions of neo-Nazi's, can you?
ACLU stands for Attorney's Clueless and Ludicrous Utterances. They're pencil necked public defenders that couldn't keep a job at Burger King. They'll do anything to get some air time on FOX.
wow you caught me! I'm a commie lovin hippie!I suppose you've visited the Soviet Union, North Korea, Cuba? Since you mentioned it that is.
Also, you're sidestepping my comment. I asked how is protecting individule rights communist?. In a Communist society they take AWAY the rights of the people and the ACLU protects those rights! You're trying to insult me by calling me ignorant. Calling the ACLU communist is just dumb. Back up your initial comment and explain the ACLU/communist relationship
Communism is a socioeconomic structure that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless, stateless society based on common ownership. Tell me ,123lovegun, advocating individual rights is communist? cough ignorance cough.
TOTAL CUT AND PASTE! ACLU is the cause of political correctness BULLSHIT! LiBERAL BULLSHIT! Libs are the offspring of 60's hippies who are turning the USA to ruin.
i believe the aclu would want you to call it a holiday tree. oh and the aclu is a scam. your comments are just as "biased" as you say fox news is. why would someone spend so much time attacking a news channel? you know that what they say is real and your upset that it will affect your socialist secular progressive agenda in tryin to convert America into europe. if you dont like america the way it is leave. america is america and europe is europe. if you like it so much leave and go live there.
I love how so many people talk about how America shouldn't be like Europe, when they never explain what that means. I'd like to hear one point where the entire continent of Europe is doing something vastly inferior to the US.
are you serious! AMERICA = FREEDOM of everything. all i know is AMERICA is awesome the way it is. we need to change a few things. no gays should marry, civil union yes, marry no, abortion is MURDER no matter how you look at it it is MURDER. fuck the mexicans close the boarders. water boarding is NOT torture, give me a fuckin break. quit bailing out failing companies. i dont want to spend my money on failure. NO national health care. fuck you i pay for mine pay for your own.
Waterboarding IS NOT TORTURE! It is common training in the military! REAL torture is pulling your fingernails back. REAL torture is slicing your head off. REAL torture is disemboweling you and making you watch the rats eat your intestines. REAL torture is endangering the lives of our soldiers for the sake of politicizing the opposition party's former actions. Now tell me about the reasoning behind the ACLU protecting the "rights" of pedophiles like NAMBLA?
in europe almost half of there paycheck goes to health care. they cant even pick there own doctor. i like my doctor. obama shouldnt have the right to pick him/her for me. i could go on FOR HOURS. my point being, the u.s is based on "the founding fathers" yea you libs hate that. however the beauty of the u.s is we are all brothers and sisters. we all disagree on everything. but we all care about each other. the u.s should be hated and feared by cuba and north korea. we are loved most other places
but to answer your question without blabbin on any more. AMERICA= freedom and democracy EUROPE= socialism and fascism. the gov runs the people in europe. the people run the gov in the u.s here if you want something go get it. over there if you want something the gov will get it for you (but gov gets from the people). FUCK THAT. so much more i could say but know one cares and no one is gonna read all my shit so who cares. it really strikes a nerve with me if you couldnt tell. but yea.... fuck it
The majority of us are christians.u like it or not,I dont give a fuck about any other fuckin religion in us including judaism or islam or any other religion,so fuck of .
I must say you use very colorful language forr a good Christian. WWJD is a question you should maybe ask yourself beffore you post comments that make you look like an ignorant bigot....peace
Bro, you obviously do not comprehend what the ACLU does. Go to its site. The ACLU fights for individual rights. If it were the other way, a tree on gov't property only, the ACLU would then be fighting for Jews; to put up a Menorah. God bless.
rupert Murdock is the most evil force in the universe - but the reason that he gets away with it is cos he is very enterprising when it comes to grabbing peoples attention and turning them on before then he starts lying to them.
In that respect you could learn a lot from him - you need a business partner - like with Oz magazine Richard Nevil needed Felix Denis.
Best of luck but you need to be like.. Micheal Moore . add some irony or humour -
I hate how the media makes liberals and the ACLU seem anti-Christian. As a liberal Christian, I support much of what the ACLU does. The ACLU supports Christians' free expression of religion, as well as that of Jews, Muslims, atheists, etc. What they're against is the government enforcement (or restriction) of a religion, which can do nothing but harm religion. As America is the land of the free, I don't see how civil-liberties supporters are un-American.
I am a complete patriot and anything the ACLU touches is just another way to say "I HATE AMERICA" it is a TOTAL anti-AMerican group. Get over yourself!
You people here have to really start listening and reading about the crap the ACLU does. They are NO FRIEND OF AMERICA!
Here's why they are American: The ACLU pushes for the free rights for all. For example, if we had an ultra-repressive government, then they, if they don't agree with you, might censor your comment or even have you killed if they can track you down.
Come up with an interesting reason why they aren't American.
first of all what if Bhuddists took over as the Majority and your kids went to school where there was Bhuddist shit all over, and then you went to court to pay a traffic ticket where there was a whole shit load of Bhuddist stuff? I am a Christian and I believe that Christ is the only way. Period. But I can't deny the fact that leveling the playing field is not the best way to go about it. Espicially since they're trying to break the faith as we speak, media controll etc etc.
I have no problem with a public servant displaying his/her beliefs publicly. I do have a problem with the ACLU going around telling people to include every religion. If the building wants a Menorah outside let them. I don't see how a lone Menorah/Christmas tree bothers anyone except the ACLU.
Christmas trees are not a religious symbol like the Menorah, so really they were only fighting for a holiday tradition, not the rights of Christians. BTW there are at least 10 times more examples of the ACLU fighting against Christians beliefs and values.
The main example of the ACLU being against cristains is when they say that Homosexuality relationships sould be viewed the same as normal ones like what they tried against the Boyscouts. But there are also many small thing they would do like sue a city for putting up a nativity sceen or having a cross in a court room. they other big things they do is their work to get teachers fired if they try to teach about God in the public schools. Finally they are majore supporters of abortion.
1. a school is full of students who are not Christian, so bringing in god, would not be cool
2. nativity sceanes are also used for Isis who also gave birth in a manger, dose that mean the ACLU hates Isis too? No, but we can not let one religion dominate
Until about a hundred years ago most public schools thought God in school. Many of the American colonies required Christianity to be thought.
2. your point to is silly no one that sees a nativity at christmas think it is their in memory off Isis
3. The Bible clearly condemns homosexuality in roman chapter 1. most orthodox christians would say that the Bible is the authority. Those that say that home sexuality is ok either do not know why they believe that or are the truth is fluid weirdos.
"Until about a hundred years ago" Black people were second class , women couldn't vote, ... Ah, those were truly the glory days. What has Bible authority to do with civil rights, the constitution or government in general? The Bible is also pretty clear about mixed clothing, rebellious youth and adultery. Oh, and the shape of the earth if I'm not mistaken.
The bible does not say anything about the shape of the earth that was a pope that wanted to say that the Vatican was the center of the world.Also you are taking verses out of context a little the bible does say that cross dressing rebellious youth and adultery are all wrong but you are using the old testament legalistic system which was compleated under Christ who brought about a covenant of grace were we are supposed to forgive while correcting. That is was the mistake that led to crusades.
Let's say it Implies a certain shape of the earth. I know the difference between the old & new testament, but Jesus came to fulfill it, not abolish. Take the ten comandments, they're still game right?
1)hundred years ago doesnt make it better or right
2)Christians get targeted the most because, gasp, theyre in the majority and have a tradition of public displays.
3)Bible clearly condemns homosexuality again, what has this to do with civil rights, the constitution or government in general? Separation of Church and State, rings any bells?
1.) most assuredly my point being me were not founded as a secular state which many would like to believe.
2.) I do not fully understand what you are trying to say but it sounds right.
3.) Where this comes in is that as a christian I believe that we should not legalize something that is a known sin. With that said I do not think we should go o a killing spree either. I think with proposition 8 America is heading on the right track.
1 ) "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" Freedom of religion, separation of state and church. Your state IS founded secular.
2) IF people get the feeling Christians are attacked all the time it's because they tend to treat the USA as a Christian nation with no regard to separation of church and state. Years it's been fine, but now other influences pop up exposing this violation of the constitution.
Majority of people + tradition of public display = most attacked.
3) But that's religion. Now, give one secular reason why gays shouldn't be, not only respected, but also allowed to marry? Do you see it's wrong when a majority votes away the rights of a minority? Be it women, blacks or gays, be it on racism or religious grounds. Some people overrate tolerance. But when you can't reason beyond 'it's not allowed according to the bible', you have no legal argument whatsoever. Give me a REASON why we should be intolerant against gays.
Yes you are right on. things that were wrong are still wrong with a few exceptions that are directly mentioned (like eating pork). but things are different now that we are under a covenant of Grace. While Adultery is wrong and should be condiment we are not supposed to go and stone any adulterer (as we were supposed to under the old testament). We are supposed to forgive while informing them and showing them why their action is a sin. Same goes for Homosexuality
Now, take a look at this list and tell me, which one does NOT conflict the constitution? "get teachers fired if they try to teach about God in the public schools" OR you're deluded, OR you need to check your law system again.
"10 times more examples of the ACLU fighting against Christians beliefs and values. " Show me one. I can sum up a few were they fight against the public display of those beliefs, but the values themselves?
Ok, this is a lot to answer first off the ACLU is not against you being a christian if you life in a little box and do not try to spread your believe. Which Christ commands that you spread your Christianity so this is where the problem arrives. If you say a Christan can not spread Christianity you are saying he can not be a christian.
You can spread your beliefs all you want, just not on public property. Hand out flyers, air a commercial, go from door to door, hold big ceremonies, .... But the state is NOT allowed to promote a single religion. It's that simple. Want to put up a nativity scene in front of your house? No problem. Put it on public property? Then the Jews have the right to do the same, as have the atheists or pastafarians.
"Ok, this is a lot to answer first off the ACLU is not against you being a christian if you life in a little box and do not try to spread your believe"
Simply incorrect. One of the ACLU's most time-honored and revered missions is to uphold the First Amendment. They regularly defend (either through direct representation or amicus briefs) the right of any individual to stand on a public street and declare, protest, or attempt to profligate his/her beliefs...check your facts!!!!
The ACLU is for allowing children to run the streets at all hours, which is not safe for them or property owners. for them to buy violent games and have petitioned to have a manger scene removed from our public park during Xmas. They ARE evil.
Wow, those are big words for us poor Christian Puritans to understand. And when was the last time you flipped your colander, it's not the 15th century anymore. You so want to nail someone with a history lesson and times have changed, so step out the front door once in a while. I love Christmas for what it is NOW, not 500 years ago, and if you don't like it, don't celebrate it, God bless America for that privilege, because if you spoke out in other countries, your fingers would be broken.
The ChristianReich consistantly berates us that we need to "get back to the Christian America founded by our [Puritan]Fathers". That would entail, if you actually take the time to research what the Puritans practiced, a total abolition against the public celebration of Christmas-which they regarded as pagan debauchery rooted in Romanism. They want to pick and choose which "traditional Christian American values" they embrace.
Not surprising-as they are lacking in both intellect and honesty.
The comment was not intended to stand up to historical examination. It twas intended to inspire a desire to return to a more generic version of the good ole days, where Christmas actually was about Christ.
It's also important to recall that a good portion of those German immigrants who hit the shore of America in the late 1840's had survived an unsuccessful revolution to establish a German republic. The "'48ers" who were the intelligensia among those very folks who established the Christmas tree in America a a beloved tradition would have welcomed the ACLU and the principles it upholds as fitting embodiments of their ideals.
" It twas intended to inspire a desire to return to a more generic version of the good ole days, where Christmas actually was about Christ. "
And therein lies the problem: selective recall. One person recalls it "actually being about Christ",another recalls the celebration of ethnic traditions. Was it ever REALLY "about Christ" in toto? Dunno,myself. I do know that before my German ancestors hit these shores in the 1840's,no one actually celebrated it as a religious holiday in the US.(con't)
i don't get why the left gets hysterical over christmas. i mean, everybody knows that santa claus is a communist. think about it: the beard, the red clothes, giving shit away. come on!
Ah, the old separation of church and state, rears it's ugly head again. What the ACLU and Mr. Liberal viewer don't tell you is that there is no such thing. But it's used all the time by the ACLU. Search for the Danbury letter and read what Thomas Jefferson meant. Basically the Church of England said you HAD to worship with us and no one else was accepted. The letter states government cannot form a religion and force you to worship it in America. RESEARCH IT!
Personally, I don't celebrate the holidays and couldn't care less for the season and the entire hoopla that it brings, but I'm very glad to see the ACLU living up to its name in an unbiased, even-handed, impartial manner. Sometimes they defend causes that I wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole, but that's the way our social system was designed to work by the Framers, and the ACLU's mission is to make sure that this happens every time the system is tested. Thanks for posting this, LiberalViewer!
Why are those fucktards putting up a menorah in the first place? The government's so damn inefficient and incompetant that it probably cost the taxpayers what, 350 dollars to accomplish the simple task of putting the damn thing up there.
This propaganda doesn't work on thinking people. If this guy truly believed what he was spouting about civil liberties he would have voted for Ron Paul and not the socialist that would take our liberties away in Barack Obama. I'd like to see him explain that one.
Yes I am sure that the ACLU hates Christians and just Christmas.
THEY SUED TO TAKE DOWN A 3 STOREY CHRISTMAS TREE in my mall 3 years ago. Yet the Jewish Manorrah stayed up. This was NOT GOVERNMENT PROPERTY this was private property.
They want everyone to be atheists or radical activists like them. I don't think they are for freedom of speech they are for freedom of THEIR SPEECH!
"Ohhh" so ONE TIME one time they defended a Christmas tree in Hawaii. 1 time versus thousands against XMAS
I didn't mean I was going to post the exact same post. He made the point that they still ban christmas items but not other holiday items. He just beat me to the point.
How about instead of putting up a Christmas tree next to the Menorah, they just take down the Menorah and have no government endorsement of any religion, period.
If the county put up a menorah in front of a government building the only right action to take is to take it away, not to add a christmas tree. This only further excludes others like atheists and hindus. The only right action is to maintain a secular stance, because it is impossible to please every one with a symbol.
Christmas trees are protestant in origin, martin luther started the tradition in germany, it spread to Britain with Queen Victoria husband and went on from their.
i dont get what you mean, what i was saying was about a manger with baby jesus in it im saying that they are fighting for a secular holiday,also i think that different chapters have different policys, but the ACLU is anti chrsitian overall, read culture warrior and you will see many examples (to aaberg123)
yes but the right to feel safe from persuaction for practicing my religion is a civil liberty, how is it worse for a county to put up a cross than for NAMBLA to publish works on how to meet and seduce young boys?
I remember one instant where someone put freaking easter decoractions outside of her work place and ACLU staff defended the right for it not to be out in the open. WTF???
All that you can hear are crickets when the University of Michigan uses tax payer's dollars for religous foot washing for muslims in bathrooms. But when it comes to the ten commandments or oooohhhhhhhhh the name God it crosses the line. Seriously, get your head out of your asses ACLU.
The ACLU does a lot of good work.I'm an atheist.I'm glad they are there.You're right they do support religious people rights as well.I don't care for religion but they do have a right to their belief and I want to see their rights protected as well.
This doesn't surprise me at all. This is in keeping with what I expect from them. The ACLU has as much integrity as any organization could ever aspire to have. Unfortunately the republicans have been waging a misinformation campaign against them for 30 some years. So obviously a lot of people (especially fox news viewers)are going to have a lot of misconceptions about what the ACLU actually does.
I tried to post a retraction on the other video."FoxNewsForgets"I followed your website and have seen theACLUhas supported things of that manner.has theACLU championed the cause to remove evolution based science out of the schools.Seeing how it opposed to government supported religion,why is it not opposed to government supported views of non religion.The ACLU sir is antichristian in its support of evolution.I do appoligise for the other replies.However theACLU is not a friend to the christian.
I know that you meant that you believe that evolution is 'anti-religious', and therefore shouldn't be taught in public schools.
And to be honest, evolution IS anti-religious, at least to some beliefs.
But listen to what you're saying, the same thing could be applied if someone had a religion that dictated that the world was flat and not a sphere, that would mean by your argument that public schools now should not teach geography because it is blatantly anti-religious towards that religion...
Evolution is science and separate from religion. Portraying evolution as anti-religious is WRONG. The idea that evolution is unproven is FALSE. There are mountains of evidence for evolution and consensus in the academic community. You are a pseudo-intellectual. Like those who died "knowing" the earth is flat. You people slow the progress of the entire human race creating confusion over facts that we should have already moved passed. EVOLUTION IS FACT. IT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH FAITH!
it isn't inherently anti-religious, science never is. However as I said before if a religion believes things that are false, science will 'be' against it because science is just a system for finding the truth.
Many religions believe things that are false (6000 year old earth, xenu, world-wide flood, etc) and therefore science will 'be' against them. The problem is that people would rather believe their religion/religious text than the truth/science.
If the GOVERNMENT puts up a nativity scene, it's unconstitutional. But, if the government opens up areas for free expression in a way that doesn't show government endorsement, then the ACLU WILL fight for an INDIVIDUAL's right to put up a nativity scene. It's a rare case, but u can see one in the case of Rita Warren in Fairfax, VA, you can find reported, among other places, at
tinyurl(.)com/343rf3
Don't forget to take the parentheses out of that link
Actually, if u mean the ACLU of Wisconsin case in Sundstrom v. Frank, the inmates were already getting hormones when the state passed a law targeting them and cutting off treatment even though medical experts agreed that blocking people from access to hormone treatment after they have been on the treatment is especially dangerous and could cause life-threatening damage. See
ACLU insists on Christmas tree so that a menorah can be erected. The latter is the real purpose of their action. With that precedent, it becomes necessary to put up a menorah whenever a Christmas tree is displayed. That we everybody gets to see lots and lots of menorahs. Pretty good trick.
liberal viewer u truely are a jackass, i just cant stop watchin these stupid videos u post cause there hillarious, by the way try to put some enthusiasm in your voice. Sounds like you were up all night... oh ya, u probably were up all night watchin fox news to find " videos to put on you tube"... loser
Calling me a "jackass" and calling my videos "stupid" isn't much of an argument. I can only conclude the arguments in my videos must be rock solid if that's the best you can come up with
Gee, I went to school from the late seventies to late eighties in highly Conservative Suburban Cincinnati. Let's see, back then...no prayer was in school, "Happy Holidays" was always used and Christmas carols were pretty generalized in their lyrical content. See, you guys are whining about this now because it supports your Neocon cult's latest crybaby festivals. Next month it'll be another topic you will all feed upon.
Expression of Bible quotes is carved in stone in our public government buildings from the beginning of our history. Prayer in schools was also part of our culture. That is not state religion as mentined in constitution. ACLU has been attacking our freedoms to express our belief in God! No prayer, no speech in school assemblies, no Christmas carols, no Merry Christmas..That is violation of 1st ammendment.
If there is going to be God and Prayer in school then ALL RELIGIONS should be in school not just christians, and there religion, if this country is going to stand by the first ammendment then EVERYONE should be covered not just one.
The evidence u use to support your position is vague (ie referring to "Bible quotes ... in our public government buildings") while I provided DOZENS of specific cases that refute your claim that the "ACLU has been attacking our freedoms to express our belief in God! No prayer, no speech in school assemblies, no Christmas carols, no Merry Christmas" To see that evidence, go to
don't believe anything the AMERICAN CRIMINAL LIBERTIES UNION says here! every once in a while, they will try to slip something like this in to gain trust. it's another one of their left-wing tactics to rid AMERICA of any christian or catholic beliefs. most of these attorneys are more than likely guilty of treason then defending the rights of DECENT AMERICANS.
We need to get rid of the aclu if we want to better this country.
meinict 1 month ago
I don't understand why is there a Christmas war; I read the Bible and there is no mention of Christmas in the Bible?
MegaClam1 8 months ago
No on both, ACLU fights for the equal rights of all u.s. citizens
dragonmaster613 10 months ago
@dragonmaster613 Exactly what I think, the ACLU is just an organisation that defends the civil liberties of all citizens in the constitution. They have defended all sorts of clients (i.e both government sponsored religion and the rights of religious groups to exist) which proves your point..
pontaven12 8 months ago in playlist ACLU related videos
@pontaven12 thats what i said
dragonmaster613 8 months ago
The idea of Christmas is now santa clause and christmas trees
What Christmas should embody is jesus and the birth of christ, to protect a christmas tree only involves a non-religious item. The ACLU does not fight for religious bodies at all, only tries to impose themselves when they step out of line.
person221 1 year ago
That LiberalViewer guy is some PC nut. Thinks everyone has a right not to be offended. Ridiculous!
uarecheap 1 year ago
@uarecheap by the government. He doesn't like when the government offends it's people by playing favorites. He's already done a video in support of the individual freedoms of citizens to be offensive.
ebonmaskarade77 10 months ago
This holiday season, I'll be wishing everyone a happy ancient pagan festival of Saturnalia.
tipoomaster 1 year ago 14
Looks like a propaganda film from Nazi Germany in the 1930's !!!
zoid3334 1 year ago
ACLU supports terrorists rights, every ACLU supporter is required to have a Bin Laden poster
gopconservative78 1 year ago
@gopconservative78
Notice who it's always narrow minded morons who mouth off about the ACLU?
I'll even provide his follow up so he doesn't have to- "go suck on bin laden's dick and smoke a hash pipe you North Korean liberal baby killer".
bigfilmhat 1 year ago
The ACLU is evil period
AndyEC1212 1 year ago
Yeah I was really wondering if you had mentioned that in your online profile.
NOT
kawless 1 year ago
Fight for Jesus birthday holiday is a MUST KEEP until His return. Liberals hate what is right, and this is a fight of all fights. Especially the ACLU, and Liberalveiwer.
macdogq 1 year ago
@macdogq You didn't even watch the video did you? The Constitution says that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof... The ACLU fights FOR individual rights of religious expression and AGAINST government endorsement of any ONE religion. I'm all for that. I happen to love Christmas and even though I'm an agnostic, judging from their actions I respect the teachings of Jesus a great deal more than many christians.
Darrylizer1 1 year ago
@Darrylizer1 Our founders has written the constitution about freedom, and our founders have received wisdom from our God in which constitution was written.
Christianity is not a religion, or a establishment. Christianity is a faith based
movement that continues to fight for our......guess what.......FREEDOM!! Maybe if you go to a faith based church, you might actually learn something that our founders did.
macdogq 1 year ago
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sure the ACLU fights for christmas, whenever too many people manage to see past their cover as a communist antichristian antiwhite anti western hate group
ObamaIsABolshevik 2 years ago
citation(s) needed :)
nolanpoepoe 2 years ago
The ACLU will stand up for the rights of Christians, whether or not Christians reciprocate the favor.
tifforo1 2 years ago
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ACLU would rather protect terrorists than their own country. I wish President Bush declared you enemy aliens and round up you scum into camps
gopconservative78 2 years ago
hmm, your plan reminds me of someone...if i just put my finger on it...
cherrydog9 2 years ago
Jeremiah 10
3 For the customs of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.
4 They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter
5 Like a scarecrow in a melon patch, their idols cannot speak; they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do no harm nor can they do any good."
hmm, it seems that god hates christmas trees...
emprguy 2 years ago
lol how many vids do you have that O'riely clip in? great show :)
PhillyWargamer 2 years ago
they may fight for a christmas tree, but at the same time they fight to have nativity scenes taken down. a christmas tree to me is not a religious symbol at all.
wonderinggrizzly 2 years ago
all that matters is who is putting on the display. the fight against government displays and for civilian displays....
nolanpoepoe 2 years ago
this guys voice is painful.............
feltbreed24 2 years ago
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ACLU=helping terrorists since 9/11/2001
gopconservative78 2 years ago
you're so silly.
bradleymonroe 2 years ago
gopconservative78=repeating talking points without thinking since forever
OxTheWriter 2 years ago
I'm sending the aclu a christmas card right now.
LOVEEET 2 years ago 2
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buddy, you are wrong!!!! o' reilly is right. open your eyes so that you may see.
oobee1980 2 years ago
Ha, ha! Good sarcasm oobee1980. You are sounding like Steven Colbert.
bigfilmhat 2 years ago
Excellent video clarification of misinformation.
awesomerepublican 2 years ago
The aclu does not support individual causes they support principles. They supported privacy when the govt wanted Rush Limbaughs medical records not because they think the bloated drug addled gas bag is someone they like but that the principle of privacy is important for us all.
swivelhipsmcgee1 2 years ago 11
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ACLU
American Cunts and Lunatic Union
MontyPython134 2 years ago
wavernr,
Waterboarding is Torture.
torture is defined as
1a. anguish of body or mind
1b. something that causes agony or pain
2. the infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, or wounding) to punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure
Can you explain to me how waterboarding isn't torture exactly?
vesman81 2 years ago 2
yea, well war is war.there is nothing pretty about war.
troyhale34 2 years ago 2
you still didn't answer the question.
ddean1987 2 years ago
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ACLU can suck my chode.
VDRun1988 2 years ago
i second that!!!! I WILL NEVER SUPPORT AN ORGANAZATION THAT SUPPORTS NAMBLA.(north american man/boy love acc.) look it up!
troyhale34 2 years ago
I don't think it's fair to say they "support" NAMBLA, they represented them in one case on freedom of speech grounds, and made it clear that they do not support their positions. They only "support" them in the same sense that they "supported" neo-Nazi's in the Skokie case, and you can't seriously be arguing that the ACLU agrees with the political positions of neo-Nazi's, can you?
number154 2 years ago
ACLU stands for Attorney's Clueless and Ludicrous Utterances. They're pencil necked public defenders that couldn't keep a job at Burger King. They'll do anything to get some air time on FOX.
wavernr 2 years ago
wow you caught me! I'm a commie lovin hippie!I suppose you've visited the Soviet Union, North Korea, Cuba? Since you mentioned it that is.
Also, you're sidestepping my comment. I asked how is protecting individule rights communist?. In a Communist society they take AWAY the rights of the people and the ACLU protects those rights! You're trying to insult me by calling me ignorant. Calling the ACLU communist is just dumb. Back up your initial comment and explain the ACLU/communist relationship
sunshine4358 2 years ago
Communism is a socioeconomic structure that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless, stateless society based on common ownership. Tell me ,123lovegun, advocating individual rights is communist? cough ignorance cough.
sunshine4358 2 years ago
TOTAL CUT AND PASTE! ACLU is the cause of political correctness BULLSHIT! LiBERAL BULLSHIT! Libs are the offspring of 60's hippies who are turning the USA to ruin.
LivengoodTodd 2 years ago
No we christiaans arent surprised u son of bitch,why u dont take that manorah light & shove it up ur ass
jake5525 2 years ago
Wow Jake, I don't recall that phrase in any of the Gospels. Are you sure you're a real Christian?
KraisinsGhost 2 years ago
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Yes i am real christian,All the problems we have are result of jews & muslims
jake5525 2 years ago
So your behavior and attitude is in full keeping with Matthew 5:38-48?
KraisinsGhost 2 years ago
Your are relly making a gret point. You make me feel like ther is stille hobe for goodness in the wold. Geeb up the good work.
onlyfouzi 2 years ago
i believe the aclu would want you to call it a holiday tree. oh and the aclu is a scam. your comments are just as "biased" as you say fox news is. why would someone spend so much time attacking a news channel? you know that what they say is real and your upset that it will affect your socialist secular progressive agenda in tryin to convert America into europe. if you dont like america the way it is leave. america is america and europe is europe. if you like it so much leave and go live there.
deliveryboy1 2 years ago
It is the right of any citizen in a democratic country to try and change their country. That's how democracy WORKS, stupid.
tamari123 2 years ago
One major difference, Fox News says it is News. LiberalViewer is entertainment, not a news channel.
stormchaser221 2 years ago
I love how so many people talk about how America shouldn't be like Europe, when they never explain what that means. I'd like to hear one point where the entire continent of Europe is doing something vastly inferior to the US.
grantloomis 2 years ago
are you serious! AMERICA = FREEDOM of everything. all i know is AMERICA is awesome the way it is. we need to change a few things. no gays should marry, civil union yes, marry no, abortion is MURDER no matter how you look at it it is MURDER. fuck the mexicans close the boarders. water boarding is NOT torture, give me a fuckin break. quit bailing out failing companies. i dont want to spend my money on failure. NO national health care. fuck you i pay for mine pay for your own.
deliveryboy1 2 years ago
just like to point out that waterboarding is technically tourture. You may "agree" with it but don't BS us by saying it's not torture.
god bless :)
sunshine4358 2 years ago
Waterboarding IS NOT TORTURE! It is common training in the military! REAL torture is pulling your fingernails back. REAL torture is slicing your head off. REAL torture is disemboweling you and making you watch the rats eat your intestines. REAL torture is endangering the lives of our soldiers for the sake of politicizing the opposition party's former actions. Now tell me about the reasoning behind the ACLU protecting the "rights" of pedophiles like NAMBLA?
wavernr 2 years ago
in europe almost half of there paycheck goes to health care. they cant even pick there own doctor. i like my doctor. obama shouldnt have the right to pick him/her for me. i could go on FOR HOURS. my point being, the u.s is based on "the founding fathers" yea you libs hate that. however the beauty of the u.s is we are all brothers and sisters. we all disagree on everything. but we all care about each other. the u.s should be hated and feared by cuba and north korea. we are loved most other places
deliveryboy1 2 years ago
but to answer your question without blabbin on any more. AMERICA= freedom and democracy EUROPE= socialism and fascism. the gov runs the people in europe. the people run the gov in the u.s here if you want something go get it. over there if you want something the gov will get it for you (but gov gets from the people). FUCK THAT. so much more i could say but know one cares and no one is gonna read all my shit so who cares. it really strikes a nerve with me if you couldnt tell. but yea.... fuck it
deliveryboy1 2 years ago
doesn't the ACLU support the "man-boy love association"? that is fucked up.
elementskaterxl 2 years ago
The majority of us are christians.u like it or not,I dont give a fuck about any other fuckin religion in us including judaism or islam or any other religion,so fuck of .
jake5525 2 years ago
I must say you use very colorful language forr a good Christian. WWJD is a question you should maybe ask yourself beffore you post comments that make you look like an ignorant bigot....peace
artaskew 2 years ago 3
Bro, you obviously do not comprehend what the ACLU does. Go to its site. The ACLU fights for individual rights. If it were the other way, a tree on gov't property only, the ACLU would then be fighting for Jews; to put up a Menorah. God bless.
dooeythedon1 2 years ago
In an ideal world you would have bigger audience.
rupert Murdock is the most evil force in the universe - but the reason that he gets away with it is cos he is very enterprising when it comes to grabbing peoples attention and turning them on before then he starts lying to them.
In that respect you could learn a lot from him - you need a business partner - like with Oz magazine Richard Nevil needed Felix Denis.
Best of luck but you need to be like.. Micheal Moore . add some irony or humour -
suziecreamchease 2 years ago
I hate how the media makes liberals and the ACLU seem anti-Christian. As a liberal Christian, I support much of what the ACLU does. The ACLU supports Christians' free expression of religion, as well as that of Jews, Muslims, atheists, etc. What they're against is the government enforcement (or restriction) of a religion, which can do nothing but harm religion. As America is the land of the free, I don't see how civil-liberties supporters are un-American.
piman314159265358979 2 years ago 2
Liberals will always ALWAYS defend this piece of shit organization!!!!!
ACLU------> ANTI AMERICAN
Liberty4ev63 2 years ago
Exactly why am I not a patriot?
Five negatives to my comment?
ARe you all on crack?
I am a complete patriot and anything the ACLU touches is just another way to say "I HATE AMERICA" it is a TOTAL anti-AMerican group. Get over yourself!
You people here have to really start listening and reading about the crap the ACLU does. They are NO FRIEND OF AMERICA!
Liberty4ev63 2 years ago
Here's why they are American: The ACLU pushes for the free rights for all. For example, if we had an ultra-repressive government, then they, if they don't agree with you, might censor your comment or even have you killed if they can track you down.
Come up with an interesting reason why they aren't American.
WarriorOfWoW 2 years ago
The ACLU also defends child porn so in my book they should be shot
Crazyredemu 2 years ago
One more thing. The ACLU is so contradictory. One minute, they are "defednding" Christians, the next, they attack them. WTF
Fencernoh42 2 years ago
there is no pro or anti christian policy by the ACLU, there's no contradiction there
ihdiferog 2 years ago
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!
The ACLU has missed the point of Christmas. ACLU fights for Christmas tree??? LOL, that is not what Christmas is about. It is about Christ's birth
I bet that teh ACLU wouldnt have stood up for a nativity scene being put up.
Fencernoh42 2 years ago
I wish this comment system would work!!!!!
ArcaneKarma 2 years ago
first of all what if Bhuddists took over as the Majority and your kids went to school where there was Bhuddist shit all over, and then you went to court to pay a traffic ticket where there was a whole shit load of Bhuddist stuff? I am a Christian and I believe that Christ is the only way. Period. But I can't deny the fact that leveling the playing field is not the best way to go about it. Espicially since they're trying to break the faith as we speak, media controll etc etc.
snowfallzz 3 years ago
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Look, the ACLU is a anti-America, socialist group. Get over yourself!
What a liberal pussy you are!!
Liberty4ev63 3 years ago
You don't sound like a patriot.
ArcaneKarma 2 years ago
Do Hawaiian Christmas trees have snow decorations on them, or is snow considered to be "climatically incorrect"?
ComradeSephiroth 3 years ago
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juggedd 3 years ago
*rolls eyes*
ArcaneKarma 2 years ago
Damn ACLU.
AlbertMondback 3 years ago
I have no problem with a public servant displaying his/her beliefs publicly. I do have a problem with the ACLU going around telling people to include every religion. If the building wants a Menorah outside let them. I don't see how a lone Menorah/Christmas tree bothers anyone except the ACLU.
Da55Moose 3 years ago
The ACLU has done more to fight for freedom of Religion than any other organization in American History!
TheAgnosticAspie 3 years ago
Christmas trees are not a religious symbol like the Menorah, so really they were only fighting for a holiday tradition, not the rights of Christians. BTW there are at least 10 times more examples of the ACLU fighting against Christians beliefs and values.
MurphyTEX1982 3 years ago
like?
I hear all the time that the ACLU is evil, but never get anybody to show me actual cases.
lessergnome 3 years ago
The main example of the ACLU being against cristains is when they say that Homosexuality relationships sould be viewed the same as normal ones like what they tried against the Boyscouts. But there are also many small thing they would do like sue a city for putting up a nativity sceen or having a cross in a court room. they other big things they do is their work to get teachers fired if they try to teach about God in the public schools. Finally they are majore supporters of abortion.
DaGuitarMasta01 3 years ago
the funny thing is this,
1. a school is full of students who are not Christian, so bringing in god, would not be cool
2. nativity sceanes are also used for Isis who also gave birth in a manger, dose that mean the ACLU hates Isis too? No, but we can not let one religion dominate
3.many Christians support same sex couples
4.many Christians support freedom of choice
lessergnome 3 years ago
Until about a hundred years ago most public schools thought God in school. Many of the American colonies required Christianity to be thought.
2. your point to is silly no one that sees a nativity at christmas think it is their in memory off Isis
3. The Bible clearly condemns homosexuality in roman chapter 1. most orthodox christians would say that the Bible is the authority. Those that say that home sexuality is ok either do not know why they believe that or are the truth is fluid weirdos.
DaGuitarMasta01 3 years ago
1. And when god was part of the public schools, the standards where very low, and corporal punishment was legal
2.The Isis comment is incorrect, for I see Isis. Also, the point is that Christianity is not the only game in town
3.many orthodox Christians agree, but not all Christians are orthodox. the Orthodox guys are actually a minority
lessergnome 3 years ago
"Until about a hundred years ago" Black people were second class , women couldn't vote, ... Ah, those were truly the glory days. What has Bible authority to do with civil rights, the constitution or government in general? The Bible is also pretty clear about mixed clothing, rebellious youth and adultery. Oh, and the shape of the earth if I'm not mistaken.
wimscheers 3 years ago
The bible does not say anything about the shape of the earth that was a pope that wanted to say that the Vatican was the center of the world.Also you are taking verses out of context a little the bible does say that cross dressing rebellious youth and adultery are all wrong but you are using the old testament legalistic system which was compleated under Christ who brought about a covenant of grace were we are supposed to forgive while correcting. That is was the mistake that led to crusades.
DaGuitarMasta01 3 years ago
Let's say it Implies a certain shape of the earth. I know the difference between the old & new testament, but Jesus came to fulfill it, not abolish. Take the ten comandments, they're still game right?
wimscheers 3 years ago
But youre avoiding the point:
1)hundred years ago doesnt make it better or right
2)Christians get targeted the most because, gasp, theyre in the majority and have a tradition of public displays.
3)Bible clearly condemns homosexuality again, what has this to do with civil rights, the constitution or government in general? Separation of Church and State, rings any bells?
wimscheers 3 years ago
1.) most assuredly my point being me were not founded as a secular state which many would like to believe.
2.) I do not fully understand what you are trying to say but it sounds right.
3.) Where this comes in is that as a christian I believe that we should not legalize something that is a known sin. With that said I do not think we should go o a killing spree either. I think with proposition 8 America is heading on the right track.
PS: tolerance is over rated
DaGuitarMasta01 3 years ago
1 ) "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" Freedom of religion, separation of state and church. Your state IS founded secular.
2) IF people get the feeling Christians are attacked all the time it's because they tend to treat the USA as a Christian nation with no regard to separation of church and state. Years it's been fine, but now other influences pop up exposing this violation of the constitution.
Majority of people + tradition of public display = most attacked.
wimscheers 3 years ago
3) But that's religion. Now, give one secular reason why gays shouldn't be, not only respected, but also allowed to marry? Do you see it's wrong when a majority votes away the rights of a minority? Be it women, blacks or gays, be it on racism or religious grounds. Some people overrate tolerance. But when you can't reason beyond 'it's not allowed according to the bible', you have no legal argument whatsoever. Give me a REASON why we should be intolerant against gays.
wimscheers 3 years ago
Yes you are right on. things that were wrong are still wrong with a few exceptions that are directly mentioned (like eating pork). but things are different now that we are under a covenant of Grace. While Adultery is wrong and should be condiment we are not supposed to go and stone any adulterer (as we were supposed to under the old testament). We are supposed to forgive while informing them and showing them why their action is a sin. Same goes for Homosexuality
DaGuitarMasta01 3 years ago
Now, take a look at this list and tell me, which one does NOT conflict the constitution? "get teachers fired if they try to teach about God in the public schools" OR you're deluded, OR you need to check your law system again.
wimscheers 3 years ago
"10 times more examples of the ACLU fighting against Christians beliefs and values. " Show me one. I can sum up a few were they fight against the public display of those beliefs, but the values themselves?
wimscheers 3 years ago
Ok, this is a lot to answer first off the ACLU is not against you being a christian if you life in a little box and do not try to spread your believe. Which Christ commands that you spread your Christianity so this is where the problem arrives. If you say a Christan can not spread Christianity you are saying he can not be a christian.
DaGuitarMasta01 3 years ago
You can spread your beliefs all you want, just not on public property. Hand out flyers, air a commercial, go from door to door, hold big ceremonies, .... But the state is NOT allowed to promote a single religion. It's that simple. Want to put up a nativity scene in front of your house? No problem. Put it on public property? Then the Jews have the right to do the same, as have the atheists or pastafarians.
wimscheers 3 years ago
"Ok, this is a lot to answer first off the ACLU is not against you being a christian if you life in a little box and do not try to spread your believe"
Simply incorrect. One of the ACLU's most time-honored and revered missions is to uphold the First Amendment. They regularly defend (either through direct representation or amicus briefs) the right of any individual to stand on a public street and declare, protest, or attempt to profligate his/her beliefs...check your facts!!!!
sar8147 3 years ago
The ACLU is for allowing children to run the streets at all hours, which is not safe for them or property owners. for them to buy violent games and have petitioned to have a manger scene removed from our public park during Xmas. They ARE evil.
3scottiemom 2 years ago
Did you even watch this video?
AmishMarine1 2 years ago
As i recall, the ACLU was the organization that saved oliver north's ass! If that is not trying to be fair, I don't know what is.
cpr612001 3 years ago 2
ACLU...terrorist supporters
gopconservative78 3 years ago
Terrorists like Oliver North?
cpr612001 3 years ago
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Cleveraka 3 years ago
Wow, those are big words for us poor Christian Puritans to understand. And when was the last time you flipped your colander, it's not the 15th century anymore. You so want to nail someone with a history lesson and times have changed, so step out the front door once in a while. I love Christmas for what it is NOW, not 500 years ago, and if you don't like it, don't celebrate it, God bless America for that privilege, because if you spoke out in other countries, your fingers would be broken.
ProAmerica07 3 years ago
The ChristianReich consistantly berates us that we need to "get back to the Christian America founded by our [Puritan]Fathers". That would entail, if you actually take the time to research what the Puritans practiced, a total abolition against the public celebration of Christmas-which they regarded as pagan debauchery rooted in Romanism. They want to pick and choose which "traditional Christian American values" they embrace.
Not surprising-as they are lacking in both intellect and honesty.
BenAliGtor 3 years ago
The comment was not intended to stand up to historical examination. It twas intended to inspire a desire to return to a more generic version of the good ole days, where Christmas actually was about Christ.
classicrockforever5 3 years ago
It's also important to recall that a good portion of those German immigrants who hit the shore of America in the late 1840's had survived an unsuccessful revolution to establish a German republic. The "'48ers" who were the intelligensia among those very folks who established the Christmas tree in America a a beloved tradition would have welcomed the ACLU and the principles it upholds as fitting embodiments of their ideals.
BenAliGtor 3 years ago
" It twas intended to inspire a desire to return to a more generic version of the good ole days, where Christmas actually was about Christ. "
And therein lies the problem: selective recall. One person recalls it "actually being about Christ",another recalls the celebration of ethnic traditions. Was it ever REALLY "about Christ" in toto? Dunno,myself. I do know that before my German ancestors hit these shores in the 1840's,no one actually celebrated it as a religious holiday in the US.(con't)
BenAliGtor 3 years ago
i don't get why the left gets hysterical over christmas. i mean, everybody knows that santa claus is a communist. think about it: the beard, the red clothes, giving shit away. come on!
fede2 3 years ago 3
Democrats want to destroy Christmas and the ACLU are the foot clan for these idiots. Their goal is to bring Communist and make Christmas a crime
gopconservative78 3 years ago
i was kidding and you are hysterical.
fede2 3 years ago 3
Ollie North owes that "foot clan" some big thank yous!
cpr612001 3 years ago
Ah, the old separation of church and state, rears it's ugly head again. What the ACLU and Mr. Liberal viewer don't tell you is that there is no such thing. But it's used all the time by the ACLU. Search for the Danbury letter and read what Thomas Jefferson meant. Basically the Church of England said you HAD to worship with us and no one else was accepted. The letter states government cannot form a religion and force you to worship it in America. RESEARCH IT!
ProAmerica07 3 years ago
Personally, I don't celebrate the holidays and couldn't care less for the season and the entire hoopla that it brings, but I'm very glad to see the ACLU living up to its name in an unbiased, even-handed, impartial manner. Sometimes they defend causes that I wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole, but that's the way our social system was designed to work by the Framers, and the ACLU's mission is to make sure that this happens every time the system is tested. Thanks for posting this, LiberalViewer!
armyveteran101st 3 years ago 2
Why are those fucktards putting up a menorah in the first place? The government's so damn inefficient and incompetant that it probably cost the taxpayers what, 350 dollars to accomplish the simple task of putting the damn thing up there.
JohnHolmes3000 3 years ago
This propaganda doesn't work on thinking people. If this guy truly believed what he was spouting about civil liberties he would have voted for Ron Paul and not the socialist that would take our liberties away in Barack Obama. I'd like to see him explain that one.
MoRacker1 3 years ago
its simply your an idiot and ron paul is too incompetent to lead.
JD1010101110 3 years ago
Yes I am sure that the ACLU hates Christians and just Christmas.
THEY SUED TO TAKE DOWN A 3 STOREY CHRISTMAS TREE in my mall 3 years ago. Yet the Jewish Manorrah stayed up. This was NOT GOVERNMENT PROPERTY this was private property.
They want everyone to be atheists or radical activists like them. I don't think they are for freedom of speech they are for freedom of THEIR SPEECH!
"Ohhh" so ONE TIME one time they defended a Christmas tree in Hawaii. 1 time versus thousands against XMAS
RedNebulaStudios 3 years ago
That's exactly what I was going to say. You beat me to it. :(
gamingeagle19 3 years ago
what the exact same fictional story wow, i guess minute minds think alike too.
JD1010101110 3 years ago
If it was in his hometown then why do you doubt it. Were you there. No.
gamingeagle19 3 years ago
not your hometown then? yet you were going to post the same thing, weird that two exact same stories happening in to different places.
JD1010101110 3 years ago
I didn't mean I was going to post the exact same post. He made the point that they still ban christmas items but not other holiday items. He just beat me to the point.
gamingeagle19 3 years ago
How about instead of putting up a Christmas tree next to the Menorah, they just take down the Menorah and have no government endorsement of any religion, period.
Of course that would make too much sense, right?
pnoozi 3 years ago
i think diferent chapters have different ideas, and 86% of americans have christmas, the tree is a secular version and generaly they favor judiaism
levibg93 3 years ago
If the county put up a menorah in front of a government building the only right action to take is to take it away, not to add a christmas tree. This only further excludes others like atheists and hindus. The only right action is to maintain a secular stance, because it is impossible to please every one with a symbol.
106224 3 years ago
really? i don't think people would be disparately offend buy a christmas tree
JD1010101110 3 years ago
Umm... The Christimas tree doesn't really represent Christianity... I honestly think it came from pagan traditions so yeah...
JoshHawkinsMK 3 years ago 3
it is, a manger is christian
levibg93 3 years ago
"it is, a manger is christian"
First of, a manger is to a cow or horse, what a deep plate is to human. Not Christian by nature.
And how does this take a way a Christmas tree's likely roots in pagan tradition anyway?
Aaberg123 3 years ago
Christmas trees are protestant in origin, martin luther started the tradition in germany, it spread to Britain with Queen Victoria husband and went on from their.
JD1010101110 3 years ago
i dont get what you mean, what i was saying was about a manger with baby jesus in it im saying that they are fighting for a secular holiday,also i think that different chapters have different policys, but the ACLU is anti chrsitian overall, read culture warrior and you will see many examples (to aaberg123)
levibg93 3 years ago
you seem to have missed the OVERALL point, it's not about cristmas, it is about CIVIL LIBERTIES!
barbour36 3 years ago
yes but the right to feel safe from persuaction for practicing my religion is a civil liberty, how is it worse for a county to put up a cross than for NAMBLA to publish works on how to meet and seduce young boys?
levibg93 3 years ago
the ACLU has done alot of good but it goes to far on many subjects
lmcdowall 3 years ago
I'm not at all surprised...
annpetasupporter 3 years ago
Christmas Trees ARE NOT CHRISTIAN. The Nativity is CHRISTIAN....duh!
Xcesschick 3 years ago
!!!NICE!!!
"duh!!" haha..
GeoStigma666 3 years ago
Government religion???
I remember one instant where someone put freaking easter decoractions outside of her work place and ACLU staff defended the right for it not to be out in the open. WTF???
Knoxvicious 3 years ago
There is no "war on Christmas". Honestly, conservative xians dont have a clue what religious descrimination is.
maulhoik 3 years ago 2
Ah but there is a war on christmas. In the mind of the faithful who care little fro reality, there is a raging war.
0lord0kinbote0 3 years ago
There is a fight for presents.
Fighting for a Christmas Tree cannot be labeled as fighting for Christians....
redsox28282828 3 years ago
does Bill O'Reilly not know that secularism is the American way
lolo2556 3 years ago 2
NO i'm not suprised, I pray that most of your viewers fell the say way as well.
preludedriver226 3 years ago
All that you can hear are crickets when the University of Michigan uses tax payer's dollars for religous foot washing for muslims in bathrooms. But when it comes to the ten commandments or oooohhhhhhhhh the name God it crosses the line. Seriously, get your head out of your asses ACLU.
detroittigsbaby 3 years ago
um, are you not aware of the establishment clause
lolo2556 3 years ago
The ACLU does a lot of good work.I'm an atheist.I'm glad they are there.You're right they do support religious people rights as well.I don't care for religion but they do have a right to their belief and I want to see their rights protected as well.
crg64 3 years ago 4
This doesn't surprise me at all. This is in keeping with what I expect from them. The ACLU has as much integrity as any organization could ever aspire to have. Unfortunately the republicans have been waging a misinformation campaign against them for 30 some years. So obviously a lot of people (especially fox news viewers)are going to have a lot of misconceptions about what the ACLU actually does.
Breakyerself 3 years ago 2
The Government has no right to regulate religion period. Liberals you blow.
chewbaca1989 3 years ago
did u even watch the video fuck face ?
kelliebelliebubble 3 years ago 3
I tried to post a retraction on the other video."FoxNewsForgets"I followed your website and have seen theACLUhas supported things of that manner.has theACLU championed the cause to remove evolution based science out of the schools.Seeing how it opposed to government supported religion,why is it not opposed to government supported views of non religion.The ACLU sir is antichristian in its support of evolution.I do appoligise for the other replies.However theACLU is not a friend to the christian.
lutheratx 3 years ago
"why is it not opposed to government supported views of non religion"
The government can't support anything non-religious?
So it can't support the religious, or the non-religious, is there some in-between that I don't know about that it can support? the half-religious?
Or are you actually saying that the government cannot support ANYTHING because it would either support something religious, or non-religious.
By the way, evolution is science, that is why it is taught in science class.
Ryausub 3 years ago
I know that you meant that you believe that evolution is 'anti-religious', and therefore shouldn't be taught in public schools.
And to be honest, evolution IS anti-religious, at least to some beliefs.
But listen to what you're saying, the same thing could be applied if someone had a religion that dictated that the world was flat and not a sphere, that would mean by your argument that public schools now should not teach geography because it is blatantly anti-religious towards that religion...
Ryausub 3 years ago
I cant post or what?This video has not let me post my retraction.
lutheratx 3 years ago
I meant rebuttal.Ican only get onliners.
lutheratx 3 years ago
Evolution is science and separate from religion. Portraying evolution as anti-religious is WRONG. The idea that evolution is unproven is FALSE. There are mountains of evidence for evolution and consensus in the academic community. You are a pseudo-intellectual. Like those who died "knowing" the earth is flat. You people slow the progress of the entire human race creating confusion over facts that we should have already moved passed. EVOLUTION IS FACT. IT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH FAITH!
Breakyerself 3 years ago
it isn't inherently anti-religious, science never is. However as I said before if a religion believes things that are false, science will 'be' against it because science is just a system for finding the truth.
Many religions believe things that are false (6000 year old earth, xenu, world-wide flood, etc) and therefore science will 'be' against them. The problem is that people would rather believe their religion/religious text than the truth/science.
Ryausub 3 years ago
Ha! It's a christmas tree!
Not a nativity!
biggumm 3 years ago
biggumm,
If the GOVERNMENT puts up a nativity scene, it's unconstitutional. But, if the government opens up areas for free expression in a way that doesn't show government endorsement, then the ACLU WILL fight for an INDIVIDUAL's right to put up a nativity scene. It's a rare case, but u can see one in the case of Rita Warren in Fairfax, VA, you can find reported, among other places, at
tinyurl(.)com/343rf3
Don't forget to take the parentheses out of that link
Thx 4 commenting :-)
LiberalViewer 3 years ago
the aclu is fighting to get sex change operation for inmates and is already getting them hormone treatments with your money!!!
mike1111qq 3 years ago
mike1111qq,
Actually, if u mean the ACLU of Wisconsin case in Sundstrom v. Frank, the inmates were already getting hormones when the state passed a law targeting them and cutting off treatment even though medical experts agreed that blocking people from access to hormone treatment after they have been on the treatment is especially dangerous and could cause life-threatening damage. See
tinyurl(.)com/yucv3q
take parentheses out of that web address
I hope that helps and
thx 4 commenting :-)
LiberalViewer 3 years ago
ACLU insists on Christmas tree so that a menorah can be erected. The latter is the real purpose of their action. With that precedent, it becomes necessary to put up a menorah whenever a Christmas tree is displayed. That we everybody gets to see lots and lots of menorahs. Pretty good trick.
luftigus 3 years ago
liberal viewer u truely are a jackass, i just cant stop watchin these stupid videos u post cause there hillarious, by the way try to put some enthusiasm in your voice. Sounds like you were up all night... oh ya, u probably were up all night watchin fox news to find " videos to put on you tube"... loser
bucs57m 4 years ago
bucs57m,
Calling me a "jackass" and calling my videos "stupid" isn't much of an argument. I can only conclude the arguments in my videos must be rock solid if that's the best you can come up with
Thx 4 the encouraging comment :-)
LiberalViewer 4 years ago
Gee, I went to school from the late seventies to late eighties in highly Conservative Suburban Cincinnati. Let's see, back then...no prayer was in school, "Happy Holidays" was always used and Christmas carols were pretty generalized in their lyrical content. See, you guys are whining about this now because it supports your Neocon cult's latest crybaby festivals. Next month it'll be another topic you will all feed upon.
petsounds75 4 years ago
Expression of Bible quotes is carved in stone in our public government buildings from the beginning of our history. Prayer in schools was also part of our culture. That is not state religion as mentined in constitution. ACLU has been attacking our freedoms to express our belief in God! No prayer, no speech in school assemblies, no Christmas carols, no Merry Christmas..That is violation of 1st ammendment.
jopickjo 4 years ago
If there is going to be God and Prayer in school then ALL RELIGIONS should be in school not just christians, and there religion, if this country is going to stand by the first ammendment then EVERYONE should be covered not just one.
lupinswitch99 4 years ago
jopickjo,
The evidence u use to support your position is vague (ie referring to "Bible quotes ... in our public government buildings") while I provided DOZENS of specific cases that refute your claim that the "ACLU has been attacking our freedoms to express our belief in God! No prayer, no speech in school assemblies, no Christmas carols, no Merry Christmas" To see that evidence, go to
ACLUFightsforChristians(.)com
Thx 4 commenting :-)
LiberalViewer 4 years ago
don't believe anything the AMERICAN CRIMINAL LIBERTIES UNION says here! every once in a while, they will try to slip something like this in to gain trust. it's another one of their left-wing tactics to rid AMERICA of any christian or catholic beliefs. most of these attorneys are more than likely guilty of treason then defending the rights of DECENT AMERICANS.
goldendoomer 4 years ago