Oldsmobile Test w/ AJ Foyt

[slinginguitarman]

AJ FOYT his name is alot like richard petty's,even his name sounds fast,but why does tony stewart remind me so much of AJ.????

[wildbill6976]

For all those veyron fans out there... keep in mind this was done 23 years ago, with a 2 liter quad four...

The things GM is capable of... is quite frankly beyond european's comprehension ...

[Megaloryan]

Had a toy of this car as a kid, thats how i know about this car. I always find it unusual how hardly anyone is aware of the existance of this car(s) and how little is known about its history/development in general, even its wikipedia article is pathetically small.

[dauer962roadcar]

There were actually 2 versions of this car: the short tail, which achieved 257 mph, and the longtail, which achieved 274 mph.

[JoeyDaytona]

HA HA! When I found the tape there was NO SOUND on it... OK? We good now?

[fistysticks]

For the LOVE of GOD and ALL that is HOLY , the greasest thing in the World you could have done was let theoriginal sound of the engine, be heard , ppl talking etc ... but NOOooo .. you have to edit all that out and replace it with Junk Music .... just call the cops and tell them you need life in Prison NAO !!

[VectorFanGT]

Lovely concept car i remember see in a motor collection,it combines the amaerican power with a high technology,the Veyron can´t win it¡¡.what is the name of the song??

[manoman0]

@VectorFanGT damn, you're RIGHT! Germans need a V16 to beat an old "iron duke" lol

[4godaddygo]

SORRY 257 2.0 LITRE PROB IRON BLOK

[4godaddygo]

SORRY 257

[4godaddygo]

228 MPH 4 CYLINDER WORLD RECORD

[1979lincolncoupe]

back before oldsmobile became a bunch of crappy rebadged budget cars

[CrazyTacky]

Shame that Oldsmobile is gone.. they always had some innovative ideas.

[Play3rsforlife]

you i swear to the life of my soul.... my dad bought AJ Foyts jet! its a hawker and Foyt has had the plane for 10 YEARS OH! AND FOYTS PILOT ROBERT(HIS NAME) HE FLEW ME AND MY DAD TOO I SWEAR YOU HAVE TOO BELIEVE ME!!!!

[red03mitsu]

i remember seeing this in Hot Rod magazine. this car was so bad-ass

[triplexxxsatyr]

BTW, does anyone have a story as to why A.J. Foyt was chosen by GM to drive this car?

[triplexxxsatyr]

LMAO!!! Awe.Some.

A GM four-banger doing some ridiculous shit waaay before the overrated Veyron.

[xZZxTakedown]

And people said Americans could only do it with the V8 lol.  Hard to believe that this was only a 2.3L 4 cylinder.

[hawksleyart01]

And people say the US can't make a fast car, or are good at engineering??

HA, this came out like 18 years before the Veyron, with a quarter of the technology and engine, and is faster.

[GeSchmidtt]

@hawksleyart01 It's the difference between a special purpose car designed to go at a high to speed as opposed to a car (the Veyron) that seats 2, has air conditioning, massive stereo system, leather interior electric windows, and can shut down in 0-60 almost any car in the world (2.5 seconds) and still do 252 mph on gas you can buy at the pump.

[hawksleyart01]

@GeSchmidtt

I sort of see what you're saying, but the Veyron was also built purposly for high speed, hence it's ridiculously big engine. I'm not knocking the Veyron though

[JaKingful]

Excellent job on the design Ed Welburn!!!

[quiteobserver]

yeah, there were 2 versions of these: LT and ST

[doc540]

Chassis was a 1986 March, body was glass, canopy from an F-16.

Legendary engine builder, Herbie "Horsepower" Porter helped build the Batten, single turbo and over the radio kept telling Foyt to turn up the boost, already at 40lbs.

During the closed course runs Foyt would run at top speed down the straight, then let the car drift up the banking like a dirt car.

Big Ballz, indeed!

[doc540]

First test run: GM proving grounds, Mesa, AZ

Only one car, two bodies: short tail & long tail

Two different- Batten/ single turbo & Fueling/ twin turbo

Records set later at the dangerous Firestone 7.7 mile oval, Fort Stockton, TX.

World records run in both directions. Flying mile - 276.339mph (long tail/Feuling) Closed course - 257.123mph (short tail/Batten -sucked a valve out of turn four)

Foyt's top speeds were nearly 290mph.

[BattleBornJackalope]

I made a miss tell.. Quad 4 was the 4 Cylinder sorry bout that the 2.5 is the 4Tec lol again Sorry.

[BattleBornJackalope]

Driven by A.J. Foyt There was two versions: Short tail with the wing that acheived over 255.--- MPH and the Long tail with no wing that acheived a Closed Course Record of 278.357 MPH The car was an Indy Car that had the Alloy Body over it and was powered by the Oldsmobile 4Tec single turbo (short tail version) or the Twin Turbo (Long tail version). Ultimately the Design was sold in 1992 to an Italian Investor with hopes of a road going version that never happened. Monogram 1:24 Model #2901

[ianpaul007]

why does it say pre-recorded?

[JoeyDaytona]

I showed the tape I found at the car museum on the local community access TV station's live call-in show and they superimpose that text when you tape a show for rebroadcast later, so, folks don't call in.

[owens10101]

whats the top speed?

0-60mph?

price £?

road legal?

[TeamHURSTOLDSRich]

One of the sickest cars ever made. Wish that they did more with it.

[Carls2827]

I work with one of the guys that built this car.

[ohiopower]

Of course it was pre recorded. When the hell else are you going to record it afterward?

[nyshockartist]

Yeah exactly, I can see exactly why you would want turns, both left and right, while doing a speed test. Makes sense to me,,,,,*rolls eyes*

[antiuser]

Nowhere in the title or the description of the video does it say it's only a speed test. If you're testing sheer speed, an oval is perfectly fine. However, sheer speed does not a good car make.

[antiuser]

They should've taken it to a proper track instead of an oval.

[raichiotto]

Define "proper" track please, there are so many opinions on what makes a proper track that it's not funny.

I personally think that for stuff like this, you go to the Bonneville Salt Flats, enough space out there to really strech the legs out!

[antiuser]

A "proper" track would be somewhere where not only sheer speed matters. A track where you turn left AND right. Somewhere like Donington Park, Paul Ricard, Estoril, Jerez...

[jcimyourfather]

This car was for a 'flying mile' test. They only counted what was done on one straight way that was a mile long. Then had to go the other direction within one our to set the world record. It was built for all out top end speed to set the record. And as you can see from an earlier post. It was done with a 4-cylinder. It was also built to prove the Quad4 not the suspension. I do not think I want to take a hairpin turn at 250 MPH in any car.

[antiuser]

Okay, I get it now. If it's sheer speed that matters, then an oval is fine.

[alexkvaskov]

the nurburgring is proper track for testing handling

[Speaceiraq]

i love the oldsmobile

[DJM442]

here are the specs Wheelbase: 111.3 inches Overall length: 192.2 inches Overall width: 86.0 inches Overall height: 40.0 inches Track, front: 66.0 inches Track, rear: 63.0 inches Weight: 1,600 pounds Approximate price: not available Engine type: turbocharged Quad 4 inline 4-cylinder Displacement (liters/cu. in.): 2.3/140 Horsepower @ rpm: approx. 850 Torque (lbs./ft.) @ rpm: not available Fuel delivery: fuel injection Transmission: 5-speed manual

[DJM442]

so what's under the hood? or cowl? after seeing the photo-montage video of all those insane Olds experimental 455's form the late 60's and early 70's, this engine has to top those easily.

[lilguy574]

@DJM442 its got a 2.3L quad 4. sorry, no 7 plus liter v8.

[DJM442]

@lilguy574 are you on drugs? i posted the specs of this car. i've always known it was a I-4 quad-cam and not a V8.

[GrandPooba1024]

So, I guess we don't get to hear what the car sounds like. Awesome.

[JoeyDaytona]

Excatly, the video was found w/o audio on a box on a shelf at a car museum's library.

[lotusiotus]

this car kills the Veyron at 276mph

[dreyer3421]

Are you serious, who cares. The Veyron is about Luxury, also this is not street legal, the Veyron is. There are numerous cars that trounce 276mph, those running for speed records so basically this fails on both fronts. It looks cool though and update tech would really make it move.

[RepublikaTwo]

music is super, name of song please

[JoeyDaytona]

DIY by KMFDM!

[RepublikaTwo]

thanks

[mavtek]

Anyone know if this track record still stands?

[therrydicule]

Yes and no: For the engine size, it's still own it... But for the world closed-course speed record, is now Gil de Ferran with a Penske's.

[Sunoco]

I like the music.

[exoticlambolover]

Yeah that Aerotech is pretty nice. I have a Go-Kart version of it that I'm going to be making a show about it and stuff!!!

[doc540]

Thanks for posting that vid. Just curious where you got it from.

[JimPrower]

Great video of an awesome car, but What the hell possessed you to use that godawful music?

[JoeyDaytona]

Well... the duped tape I found had no audio and KMFDM seemed to fit, maybe it'd be better with some heavy metal?

[JimPrower]

Nah....I'dve preferred silence. Perhaps some cheesy '80s or '70s automotive documentary music. XD

[chotochato]

What could have been the inevitable downfall of the Corvette as the fastest domestic sports vehicle (remember Buick GNX?)...

As always spoiled brat Chevy cried foul and the Aerotech never got passed managing to (only?!) break the production speed record.

...funny how GM lost their place to imports which mostly run strong twin cam 4 cylinder engines just like the Quad 4...

[ChryslerPower]

What's up with these battles that are all over this website you two are always fighting

[chryslerminivans1111]

MOST Eagle cars were rebadged Mitisubishi pieces of SHIT! the only good Eagle was the Vision!

Olds was SHIT!

what is "msot"? hmm.

you have bad grammar.

[chryslerminivans1111]

MOST eagle cars were rebadeged Mitisubishis. like the Talon, Summit, ect. Those ARENT Chrysler cars. Sorry. i would NEVER dog on Chysler.

olds is shit. and Mercedes and Chrysler have MORE innovations than olds.

you have bad grammar and spelling. so you know what... my no capital letters dont mean shit.

at least i can spell!

[chryslerminivans1111]

NO DUH! the Vision was an Interpid/Concorde! that is why its an AMAZING car!

whopdy fuckin doo...

olds is DEAD!

[ChryslerPower]

I Hate to say it but oldsmobile has more industry first than any other auto maker .

[daeladub]

cadillac is up there too

[oldsmobiletw]

plymouth will never come back after the crap they made chrysler is way to poor to bring it back. gm phased olds out and had special models made and said it was the hardest chose they had ever made. but chrysler said no hard feeling but buisness is buisness and we dont see plymouth as a part of our future so they moved the voyager to the chrysler name plate how stupid.

[chryslerminivans1111]

Chrysler POOR?!?!

are you drunk?

Voyager was only a Chrysler between 00-03 sorry!

and the Chrysler Grand Voyager is the european version, sold there sense the 80's.

Eagle was SHIT!

Plymouth wasnt.

olds was SHIT!!!!!

[oldsmobiletw]

to let you know i dont watch nascar but i do know car history and more than you. and trust me oldsmobile in 1955 hahaha rocket 88 thats the car high compression v8 low price thats it. and who made the 300 the first official is there a example where god or some indifferent person with authority stated that hmm, well waiting.

[chryslerminivans1111]

what oldsmobiletw? you make NO sense what so ever. get the year straight!

[oldsmobiletw]

hmmmm right post

[oldsmobiletw]

yes the roots of the muscle car go back to the oldsmobile 88 and pontiac gto and oldsmobile 442 where the first to commercialize on the market

[chryslerminivans1111]

eh, 1955 Chrysler 300!

[oldsmobiletw]

hmmm, Oldsmobile invented the muscle car! in 1949!

[chryslerminivans1111]

haha. you and oldsmobiletw right?

hmmm.

WHEN PIGS FLY!

[chryslerminivans1111]

Chrysler in 1955.

the olds is UNOFICAL!

[chryslerminivans1111]

just because you watch Nascar dosnt mean you know the History!

olds IS shitty.

[chryslerminivans1111]

haha, you have very bad comebacks!

get REAL!

ever wonder why olds is gone and never comin back? hmm.

plymouth is!

[chryslerminivans1111]

Plymouth coming back is possiable, unlike olds.

[chryslerminivans1111]

jealous of generic motors?

eh, TOO BAD!

I LOVE CHRYSLER!

[chryslerminivans1111]

i know how to spell gm.

its Generic Motors!

eh, the olds 98 is UNOFFICAL!

55 Chrysler 300 is!

[chryslerminivans1111]

why do you have to use that same LAME comeback?

Generic Motors.

[chryslerminivans1111]

just face it Generic Motors minivans SUCK ASS!

[chryslerminivans1111]

nope. they SUCK ass!

[chryslerminivans1111]

nope they SUCK ass.

"Oh, they kick ass? Okay!"

WHEN PIGS FLY!

[chryslerminivans1111]

you are just pissed because i have original comebacks. sorry.

[oldsmobiletw]

also the oldmobile 88/98 where the first muscle cars even the first rock and roll song was about the rocket 88 by "Jackie Brenston and his Delta Cats", chrysler coppied the muscle because olds was selling its new cars fast, 6 times the sales of chryslers cars. and aso chrysler coppied the automatic transmission

[chryslerminivans1111]

hmmm, Chrysler invented the muscle car! in 1955!

[oldsmobiletw]

ok who won the first daytona 500 in 59 hmm a rocket 88

[oldsmobiletw]

ok olds has the world closed course speed record 257.123

[chryslerminivans1111]

on the BEACH!

the speedway wasnt built yet!

1955 Chrysler 300 WAS the first 100% Muscle car, POWERFUL engine, light weight. isnt that a muscle car?

hmm.

generic motors copied that too!

[chryslerminivans1111]

yes,

daytona speed week.

ran on the beach. kinda like the salt flats. are you high? you dont know the history of nascar!

eh, 300 was 1000% Muscle car! the first, if it wasnt... then why did chrysler advertise it as the first muscle car? hm, you know nothing!

300 looks NOTHING like the old shitty ugly olds.

generic motors copied the muscle car in 1964 with the gto. i know my shit. you obviously dont!!!!

[oldsmobiletw]

olds actually had it first the 1949 rocket 88

[oldsmobiletw]

hymm light weight first ovh engine sounds like it to me

[oldsmobiletw]

ok the oldsmobile aerotech was a 2.0 quad 4 engine and there is no way in hell that a big ole hemi could beat it not even for top speed theres no way it could hold the revs

[chryslerminivans1111]

read....

ITS A CONCEPT CAR!!!!

Chrysler was the first automaker to break 200MPH!!!!

[chryslerminivans1111]

yea.

that is why 9 out of 10 drag cars have a HEMI?

the first Production car to do 200mph was a Chrysler 300C...

"And a Chrysler pulling 200 mph? Nope. 100 mph? Believable. That is, if the transmission doesn't blow first! LOL!"

that is very ignorant,

Chrysler set the top speed record of 200mph at Daytona beach. you saying that is like me saying generic motors is good. which generic motors isnt!

[chryslerminivans1111]

9 out of 10 drag cars are HEMI powered!

1950's era 300C, didnt know that was the start of the 300 letter series did ya? nope. you are to narrow minded with generic motors.

"And a Chrysler pulling 200 mph? Nope. 100 mph? Believable. That is, if the transmission doesn't blow first! LOL!"

you saying a Chrysler cant do 200mph, is like me saying that generic motors builds good cars and minivans.

which we both know that a Chrysler can do 200mph and generic motors minivans suck!

asshole!

[chryslerminivans1111]

i dont mean funny cars. i mean drag cars!!!!

You dont know a 50's 300 letter series, because when i said 300C you assumed it was a 2005.

and yes a 50's 300 did 200mph at Daytona Speed week, way before nascar! dont forget that Chrysler invented the muscle car!

[oldsmobiletw]

the 300 never did 200 mph never

[oldsmobiletw]

Ok the LT could reach higher than 278 st was 271+/- and that was 1053 bhp at 9750. its a 2.0 try that mercedes benz hahahaha. Oh yeah and what about The 4.0 aurora v8 powered one. Nobody knows what its top speed was.

[AutoRacer5]

The original chassis of the car started off as a 1985 March CART indycar.

[crazdayz]

Here are the specs:

LT version 267mph

ST version 257 mph

1000 bhp@9500 rpm

5 speed

Quad 4 engine.

[toredyvik]

i just want to hear "sycophant" by KMFDM, i dont care about the car.

[knockabout86]

Haha, same here!

[sanddragracer]

that is one of the most aero-efficient cars I have ever seen

[indyjim1969]

they picked a pretty good test driver!

[foyter11x]

hes my third cousin i dont care what you say its true

[raiders1967]

A.J. is the greatest race car driver ever and my favorite race car driver.

[frosts0]

I remember this. There was a long-tail and short-tail version of the Aerotech. The long tail went faster. I believe the average speed, after going around the track in both directions, was 266mph. One direction was in the 270s.

[2ms]

It had a 750hp 2.0L Inline 4 (modified version of Quad4 production engine).

And people think the S2000 is awesome b/c it has 240hp out of 2.2L.

[joojoosasa]

he has quite the point

[beforever]

There are many other cars that can outstrip the Veyron that can be driven as an everyday car, that look a whole lot nicer.

I cannot believe how much respect the veyron has been given for being an overpriced overpowered vw beetle.

[Jrmcg20]

ok Bugatti is an everyday car for one that has airbags radio air conditioning and such you could not drive this everyday thats what makes the Bugatti special

[Northax]

The 1988 Corvette Callaway Sledgehammer that hit 254 mph (still faster than Veyron) was street legal, and could be driven every day. This was back in 1988! Americans have been ahead on supercars for many years, but chose not to continue after the 1980s, oddly enough. I guess they wanted to sell to the every day driver, and not lose money on supercar building. Ah well, it still showed we had the technical know-how. :)

[Northax]

By the way: Oldsmobile could've made this car street legal, and be driven every day, but it'd have costed the buyer around 1 to 1.5 million dollars to buy it, I'm sure. Even back in 1988-1989.

The street legal version would've probably hit only around 255-260 mph, though. Who knows.

Again, this only proves that America has had the know-how on how to make supercars for many years now... unlike what many ignorantly say today. ;)

[beforever]

yeah, the 80's were the best for cars no doubt!

[Northax]

Don't know his exact top speed hitting in this video, but the Oldsmobile Aerotechs top speed is 278 mph. Faster than a Bugatti, McLaren, etc. :)

[mzbk2l]

Cool video! Looks like it was shot at the GM Desert Proving Ground in Mesa, AZ.

Interesting to note that the GMDPG track is actually a clockwise track, but he was running counterclockwise (see the mile marker signs visible to the viewer as the car heads toward you).

I believe that ~140mph is the speed in the top lane for "neutral" steering. Anything below that and you have to actually steer up the banking to keep going straight. I wonder how fast he got moving?