I'm not certain analysis helps you to understand "why" a composer wrote anything. That is too personal and subjective. No matter if the composer writes the explanation for all to read, it will still be insufficient to explain why. "I felt this or that" does not tell you anything about what he or she actually experienced with the feeling. All, then (IMO), analysis can do is to help you understand the motion of the framework, how it was built, not why it was this way or that.
I'm fairly sure that is a wagnerian tuba, because tenorhorns arent bent. the only curvy horn is the French horn, and that looks like a shell. and eupho's and baritone's are slightly larger than the tenor, and smaller than the tuba.
@BizCasFri thanks, i did go onto research afterwards, and apparently there is alot of confusion with the brass names particularly horns, between aussie/british names and american names. like it is much different to the tenor horn that my cousin plays.
This is my favorite classical symphony (perhaps because of its awesomeness mixed with obscurity), which also pretty much sums up its approach. It will reward patient listeners who understand classical musical form and want a fresh, yet well done sound.
Out of all the mahler symphonies from the standpoint of an orchestral player this symphony has always been the most difficult to try to figuire out. In my opinion it lacks the intensity of the 9th symphony and its not just an exercise in Wagnerian sound masses and programatic storytelling like the First through Third symphonies. I do have to give mahler credit though for comeing up with some very original sounding ideas in this composition.
@pointreyes6 You do analysis to learn what the composer did. If you like something a composer did, analysis allows you to understand WHY the composer wrote whatever he wrote.
@pointreyes6 willful ignorance huh? The only ones critical of musical analysis are the ones who have done little of it. Ravel said the only way to master one's craft was by studying the work of others. Reading the score alone will tell you some things, but doing a full-blown analysis will yield greater results much more quickly.
Well, that's actually not a Wagner Tuba, which is played with a horn mouthpiece and fingered with the left hand. Mahler called for a 'Tenorhorn', which in America we call a Baritone. This is an Austrian version of that instrument.
1:23 Wagner Tuba, I think
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3.37 la passione!
TheCrusius 3 months ago
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TheCrusius 3 months ago
Preeeeeeeeeeedivno!
blagicaza5 4 months ago
i think mahler was the most advenced composer of his time.
the 9 e 10 symphonies remnd me berg and the atmosphere of 30 years after.
he is a peak in the human history
dallexandro 7 months ago 5
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GordonMorrice 8 months ago
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DoggifyThis 10 months ago
I'm not certain analysis helps you to understand "why" a composer wrote anything. That is too personal and subjective. No matter if the composer writes the explanation for all to read, it will still be insufficient to explain why. "I felt this or that" does not tell you anything about what he or she actually experienced with the feeling. All, then (IMO), analysis can do is to help you understand the motion of the framework, how it was built, not why it was this way or that.
hermanzoon 1 year ago
@hermanzoon well it cant hurt
laundrymunkey1414 1 month ago
I'm fairly sure that is a wagnerian tuba, because tenorhorns arent bent. the only curvy horn is the French horn, and that looks like a shell. and eupho's and baritone's are slightly larger than the tenor, and smaller than the tuba.
aalg4c 1 year ago
@aalg4c Nah Wagner Tuba uses a french horn mouthpiece, and the one used was much closer to a trombone mouthpiece. It's a tenor horn.
BizCasFri 1 year ago
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aalg4c 1 year ago
@BizCasFri thanks, i did go onto research afterwards, and apparently there is alot of confusion with the brass names particularly horns, between aussie/british names and american names. like it is much different to the tenor horn that my cousin plays.
aalg4c 1 year ago
Best Symphony, Best Orchestra, Best Conductor, Best Audiences, Best Uploader, and Best Video Quality!
Oistrakhfollower 1 year ago
@Oistrakhfollower youtube.com/watch?v=_STnI4EJKTA&feature=channel_video_title
Ayden434 4 months ago
This solo is not ether Tenor Tuba and Wagner Tuba.
This is Tenorhorn! - Weltklang (DDR) with 4 valves
yanoka128 1 year ago
great performance...but the "wagner tuba" player's time is WAY off!
2MuchSkill 1 year ago
This is my favorite classical symphony (perhaps because of its awesomeness mixed with obscurity), which also pretty much sums up its approach. It will reward patient listeners who understand classical musical form and want a fresh, yet well done sound.
kennkweder 1 year ago
I love opening pretty much ! and Bernstein is always one of my favourite conductors :-)
Cherylyuennable 1 year ago
I like Bernstein Mahler recordings w/ Vienna much better than NY Phil....
SuckerForRockers 1 year ago
Out of all the mahler symphonies from the standpoint of an orchestral player this symphony has always been the most difficult to try to figuire out. In my opinion it lacks the intensity of the 9th symphony and its not just an exercise in Wagnerian sound masses and programatic storytelling like the First through Third symphonies. I do have to give mahler credit though for comeing up with some very original sounding ideas in this composition.
sfrenchhorn07 1 year ago
why would he use a wagner tuba....
2MuchSkill 1 year ago
@2MuchSkill Because he wanted a mellower and more misterious sound than the Horn´s.
GermanoDeppe 1 year ago
@2MuchSkill first, is not a wagner tuba, it is a tenor tuba
second, why not?
ErosBombardino 1 year ago
For some reason, this movement always reminds me of a herd of stampeding cattle. Don't ask me why.
shellac1925 1 year ago
naja
XlolbobX 1 year ago
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pointreyes6 1 year ago
@pointreyes6 You do analysis to learn what the composer did. If you like something a composer did, analysis allows you to understand WHY the composer wrote whatever he wrote.
Tokkemon 1 year ago 2
@pointreyes6 willful ignorance huh? The only ones critical of musical analysis are the ones who have done little of it. Ravel said the only way to master one's craft was by studying the work of others. Reading the score alone will tell you some things, but doing a full-blown analysis will yield greater results much more quickly.
ryanke07 1 year ago
@pointreyes6 I can imagine your reaction. There is also the enjoyment of music. Analysis can be in the way of that.
dajohnthomas69 1 year ago
Just Great ! I've to do an analysis of this symphony. It is very interresting ! (mostly the beginning)
blgdj 1 year ago
oic
JC5268 1 year ago
Well, that's actually not a Wagner Tuba, which is played with a horn mouthpiece and fingered with the left hand. Mahler called for a 'Tenorhorn', which in America we call a Baritone. This is an Austrian version of that instrument.
danmcglaun 1 year ago
the Wagner tuba is impressive, indeed
JC5268 1 year ago
The clarinets at 2'00 look like they're statues, except they're fingers are moving. Other than that, excellent interpretation!
TheKevinV08 1 year ago 9
after listening to lots of other performances, bernsteins conducting appeals more to me that his mahler is the best.
TheGanglo 2 years ago
Amazing !
atralfalgar 2 years ago
fantastic
TomLGruber 2 years ago