Getting Complete Protein

[canadianmuslimnproud]

I have been a vegan for almost 1 month now. I have systemic lupus which has caused many complications with my health. I have lost 27lbs of water accumulation in my legs due to heart problems, my hands and feet have had the feeling restored, and although the severe joint pain has not disappeared it has been reduced. Why didn't any of my Dr.'s ever tell me about veganism?

[TheRogueMonk]

WIKIPEDIA says YOU DONT NEED COMBINE proteins if YOU EAT NATURAL FOOD not meat .. is this true?

do we need to combine? i eat beans . cant i make muscle with beans?

[TheRogueMonk]

@TheRogueMonk i am a body-builder and i eat meat simply because its food .. i have started to add beans and green peas... what other cheap and affordable sources of vegeterian protein can i get? and the big quwestion yes.. do i need to combine them ? i think its odd if god made incomplete food .. it make sno sense to me.. what do you say.. its frutrating for me to have to eat 3 kinds of food and i tmakes people fat

[TheRogueMonk]

@TheRogueMonk i believe that god gave us wonderful animals to eat and use but everything should have its limits.. i dont believe that eating meat is bad but i do not think that a human being should coninue ignore the vast variaty of available blessing god has given us from teh earth

i believe its 90% to 100% possible to live on ffruits form the earth then living only on meat ..

we over do things in life and maybe the market is overdone , its not different then any other part of market

[TheRogueMonk]

@TheRogueMonk Every makret being it vegan. suplements, meat industry they all want to say THIS IS THE SAVIOUR only do this .. and they keep overdoing things.. because they want to get rich.. while we as humans have to find the balance so to say ourselves.. the best is to eat modestly and eat using most of the variaty of food god has given us instead of sticking to absolutly one source .

[TJBarba]

Animal foods even if they are organic would be considered survival foods that you should only eat in a desperate survival situation. The same goes to refined sugar/flour and processed junk food. Our diet should consist mainly of live raw plant foods that are organic.

[nellieeeeee]

People of different regions need to eat foods native to their localities.

[ACEBAKER911]

watch the video

PROTEIN MYTH

[drtcan]

A diet consisting of meat alone is a terrible idea. No fiber, no vitamin C (have fun getting scurvy), and no direct source of glucose. The brain is a glucose hog, and refuses to use other types of energy; thats why human breast milk has such a high sugar content. Eat a balanced diet with all food represented (including some meats/animal proteins) and health will be optimized.

[bigusdikus0]

you say the only protein u need is leaves but how do u know that? u dont even know how much protein youre getting or how much you need!

[ACEBAKER911]

Read the most scientific thoroughly researched book on Diet ever written

THE CHINA STUDY

google it

[domidomidomdom]

No, you dont. but just because you dont understand it, doesnt mean you should avoid it. there are a lot of things in life where we dont understand completely how it works, but we still enjoy the benefits of it.

you can google 100% plant based athletes. Brendan Brazier is one.

Quite a few raw athletes are here on youtube too. one is realrawmatt.

[domidomidomdom]

Amino acids are the building blocks of protein, and believe it or not greens contain a whole lot more of it than meats do. Take green superfoods:

Meat is comprised of only 22% protein on average. Wheat grass juice is only 24% protein compared to over 60% for Spirulina and Chlorella, which is the highest amount of protein of any whole foods.

[bigusdikus0]

actually i have been on all meat diet for months before and i was fine. but u have never been on all leaf diet yet u claim its possible but u just dont want to do it haha. so how do u know its possible?

[jgfergus]

Wow!!! All meat diet eh. Nothing else? No vegetables? No fruit? No whole grains?

I know one consequence of being on an all meat diet for any length of time....destruction of brain cells!

LOL!!!!

[bigusdikus0]

grains are not necessary. stefansson proved that its possible to thrive on an all meat diet.

[bigusdikus0]

"I know one consequence of being on an all meat diet for any length of time....destruction of brain cells!"

what is ur evidence of that? that would be a consequence of an all leaf diet however

[rpmangin]

@bigusdikus0 an all leaf diet is impossible unless you're committed to living the life of a gorilla: just eating, going to the bathroom, and sleeping.

[bigusdikus0]

jgfergus

have you ever heard of Inuit? they lived 60-90% of the time with no vegetables, fruit, or whole grains. did u think they grow plants in the snow?

[jgfergus]

I am Canadian, and all Canadaians know that Inuit have the worst longevity statistics in North America. Research from the past and present shows that they die on the average about 10 years younger and have a higher rate of cancer than the overall Canadian population.

Eventually a cooked meat diet is going to cause disease. Hell...even the American Medical Association, and National Cancer Institute recommend consuming LESS meat!

[bigusdikus0]

they have bad longevity when changing from their traditional diet. they didnt even eat cooked meat! anyway longevity doesnt matter the point was that its possible to live on only meat. the fact that they live almost as long shows that an all meat diet isnt that unhealthy just not ideal. where are the all leaf cultures?

[canadianroot]

@jgfergus But their cancers are recent, and not due to meat. They traditionally ate meat raw, and it's with the introduction of western diet elements, and smoking, that their cancer rates have skyrocketed. My comment is meat-neutral, in fact, but I'm just stating that we can't so easily make the correlation in the case of the Inuit.

[bigusdikus0]

just because everything has aminos doesnt mean u can absorb them

[ironman711]

Some vegan actually said this, "If there is no protein in vegetation, then cows would be deficeint in protein!"

If that's true, I would love to see more people eating and rechewing grass and only eat grass.

[bigusdikus0]

thats because theyre too ignorant to know people cant digest cellulose so they cant absorb the protein from leaves or grass. otherwise if this vid was true people could live on grass like cows. they wouldnt need spirulina, seaweed, nuts or seeds. did u ever see a cow eating nuts? seaweed? spirulina?

[bigusdikus0]

freezing destroys amino acids? haha. he didnt explain why.

[bigusdikus0]

human hydrochloric acid is 1-3 ph and stimulates the secretion of pepsin which has no trouble digesting meat. length of intestines is due to also eating plants. algae and sprouts arent natural. animal foods are natural. china study is propaganda. woody harrelson? haha.

[bigusdikus0]

what can you say about a "dr" who gets his information from woody harelson? what is he a dr of anyway?

[bigusdikus0]

this is a lot of vegan propaganda and lies.

[ACEBAKER911]

watch another excellent video on here titled

PROTEIN MYTH

most of the info on protein out there on TV, books, news papers etc. is garbage, Dr. Clement speaks the Truth on this

[bigusdikus0]

clement doesnt know what hes talking about. hes a vegan propagandist. humans have no ability to digest protein from cellulose like herbivores. if a species is not an herbivore it must consume animal products to obtain adequate protein. or eat unnatural foods like beans and grains.

[ACEBAKER911]

Humans need the Free Form easy to digest Amino Acids thats found in ALL organic Green Leafy Vegetables

Clement is Right

[bigusdikus0]

van orden is a salesman. enzymes are not protein. enzymes are made from amino acids. amino acids are not destroyed by cooking or freezing. humans cant break down cellulose to absorb the amino acids in plants. otherwise why do you have to eat sprouts and algae? try living on only leaves and grass like a true herbivore and see how long you last.

[bigusdikus0]

did u notice theyre just twisting words? u dont need protein u need amino acids. wrong. u need protein made from amino acids. just because there are aminos in everything doesnt mean you can absorb them. and you need the right combination of aminos. it wont make protein unless ALL the essential aminos are present like they are in meat. theres no advantage to free form aminos. peptide bonded aminos are better absorbed.

[ACEBAKER911]

What is Van Orden selling ?

Van Orden DOESNT eat sprouts or algae,  Green Leaves are all the protein we need

[bigusdikus0]

hmmmm thats interesting that u break down cellulose when no other humans have that capability. you are both probly deficient in protein. being able to train physically isnt necessarily a sign of health or good diet. it will catch up with u later

[bigusdikus0]

on his site he claims to eat

"fresh vegetables and salads, fruits and fruit smoothies, and nuts and seeds."

[ACEBAKER911]

Humans need free form Amino Acids, not dense Protein

there is a massive distinction between them. Raw Veganism is logical, rational and Biological for humans

[bigusdikus0]

u must not have studied the program very well.

according to his site he eats

fresh vegetables and salads, fruits and fruit smoothies,

spirulina, seaweeds in general, seeds, nuts, bee pollen and vegetables.

[bigusdikus0]

actually peptide bonded amino acids are better digested than free form

[ACEBAKER911]

FALSE

nowhere on his site does he claim to consume Spirulina

[bigusdikus0]

ok he doesnt claim it there he promotes it on a raw food page. also you made this statement.

"Green Leaves are all the protein we need"

to use your word

FALSE

he eats nuts, seeds, coconut, peas, mushrooms etc.

[ACEBAKER911]

Yes he eats Nuts, seeds, coconut etc.

But the main source of Protein in any raw vegan diet is green leaves

[bigusdikus0]

but u said the only protein u need is leaves. hes getting way more protein from nuts seeds coconut peas etc than he is from leaves. so youre wrong.

[ACEBAKER911]

Yes if all you ate were green Leaves you would get enough Protein to survive and be healthy.

But why not eat Other foods and get their benefits also ? I eat mostly Green Leaves, but i also eat Nuts, seeds for variety and nutritional balance.

I also eat ALOT of berries to get extra Vitamin C, although what i eat is WAY over the RDA, because i like berries !

Humans dont need Protein, we need AMINO ACIDS

[bigusdikus0]

haha thats funny thats what the fruitarians say. u can live on just fruit. but nobody does. anyway if u like that diet thats ok with me :)

[ACEBAKER911]

Yes you can live on just Fruit, but not very well . Its much more intelligent to get a well rounded Nutritional balance and include plenty of Green Leaves , Nuts and Seeds.

If you tried to just live on Dairy, or Meat alone, or Grains alone , Youd die Fast. BUT you can live on just Fruit for many Years.

However the best plan is a well balanced whole foods vegan diet for obvious common sense reasons

[bigusdikus0]

actually i have to disagree with you. you could live a lot longer on just meat than just fruit. an all fruit diet is deadly. noone has ever succeeded on it. but many cultures have lived on an all meat or mostly meat diet and not only survived but thrived. you wouldnt die fast. you could live for a long time just on milk probably. but on all fruit you will get sick very fast.

[ACEBAKER911]

Obviously its not smart to live ONLY on fruit or Meat. but you can definitely live ALOT longer on just Fruit, than a Meat only Diet.

If you ate meat only, you would be ingesting far too many toxins and negative particles that would acidify your system to such a degree that you have NO minerals of which to buffer the acidity

acids mean death in humans very fast

[bigusdikus0]

Vilhjalmur Stefansson lived for years on an exclusively meat diet. but there are no cases on record of anyone living for any significant period on either all leaves or all fruit diet.

[ACEBAKER911]

you go on and live on a 100 percent meat diet and let us all know how that works out for you after a few months

[bigusdikus0]

ok and u go on an all leaf diet and let me know how that works out for u.

[bigusdikus0]

or all fruit.

[ACEBAKER911]

I never said someone should live on all leaves nor is it good , HOWEVER you would live alot longer and be healthier on all leaves than you would on all meat

[bigusdikus0]

and why should i prove one can thrive on an all meat diet when its already been proven? but an all fruit or all leaf diet hasnt.

[bigusdikus0]

so ur wrong twice acebaker. u contradicted urself. first u say the only protein u need is leaves then u say hes eating nuts etc. u dont think nuts have protein? and also not only is he getting other protein but his main source isnt even leaves. its nuts, seeds, coconut, peas etc

[tigno323]

human beings CAN digest protein frol cellulose like spinish leaves,and other leaves,we cannot digest other types of cellulose,like tree bark or wood

[bigusdikus0]

humans cant digest cellulose of any kind.

[bigusdikus0]

which one? theres a bunch of vids titled protein myth including one thats spelled wrong

[ACEBAKER911]

type in

THE PROTEIN MYTH

its the 1st video that shows up, His screen name here is  RunningRaw

[TemplarX2]

Oh, please shut up with your sophistic science. There's no complete protein in meat? ROFLMAO, where did you get your Ph.D? You can destroy the protein but not the amino acids from the freezing process you clwon. It's the amino acids we need not the protein!

[invista360]

You spell clwon..........clown.

You spell sophistic..........sophisticat­ed.

Fucking retard. Go stuff your face with whatever you want.

[TemplarX2]

ROFLMAO. Before you talk your ass off next time ,open a dictionary and look up the word. I meant sophistic not sophisticated. There's nothing sophisticated about this nonsense. And clown here is clearly a typo. Who's the retard now?

[invista360]

Exactly.

Proteins cant be split by our enzymes into amino acids because they are altered by HEAT and resemble partially melted plastic and are no longer viable.

Protienaceous food that are microwaved, baked, broiled, barbecued cant be utilized because of HEAT and form hundreds of mutagenic substances that act on our DNA causing many diseases.

Second problem is high amounts of free unbound iron in red meat which overloads our iron storage mechanisms. Tumors/pathogens need free iron to grow.

[TemplarX2]

LOL. Heating meat helps the digestion process , you idiot! We human just like our closest relative the chimps need meat!

[tigno323]

yup ur rite. we just need the ammino acids,not the protein form as meat.MEAT eating was propagonda by the illumaniti to rod ur spritual mind body.indian gurus/buddhist monks dont eat that shit

[jm463]

I just recently became vegetarian and get most of my protein from protein bars and shakes for muscle building. What is your opinion on these nutritional supplements and what advice do you have on some good nutritious protein.

[brettroberts111]

hemp seed protein. has a great amino acid profile:)look up some other youtube videos about it.