N-1 Moon Rocket

[xGmart]

I was just reading about this on space.com

interesting read.

[aSimulatedHigh]

I understand that putting people on other celstial bodies isn't Russia's forte, maybe they should start building these again but repurposed to lift large space stations?

[spacegeek5]

@aSimulatedHigh not space stations thats the whole problem with our space program, they lower our capabilities to only LEO which is not good they should go to mars

[puncheex]

@spacegeek5: And you think you know everything there is to learn a LEO, do you?

[spacegeek5]

@aSimulatedHigh not space stations thats the whole problem with our space program, they lower our capabilities to only LEO which is not good they should go to mars to solve this problem

[flybywire09]

I wonder how much slave labor was involved and how many people died in vein building those rockets.

[Jimbob8971]

@flybywire09 i wonder how much slave labor was put into making the Saturn V after all the chief desginer of that project was the very same desginer who enforced slave labor into the V2.

[flybywire09]

@Jimbob8971 Let's see, slavery ended in the United States 1864, so none. Nice try though. What's that number of how many people the Soviet Union killed? 50 million?

[Jimbob8971]

@flybywire09 well how about how many astronauts were killed in those shitty little NASA training jets at least 6 i think and what do you mean 50 million

[flybywire09]

@Jimbob8971 Google the number of cosmonaut deaths, you'll get a much higher number and on top of that there's no telling how many deaths were never reported. The USSR had a bad habit of hiding numbers.

[Jimbob8971]

@flybywire09 the US had plenty of deaths in their training aircraft alone not to mension the deaths in apollo and the space shuttle missions and the soviets let all that information (covered up deaths) out in the early 1990s when they broke up so even if their was more deaths you will never know since the USSR doesn't even exsist anymore which makes that arguemnt invalid and also means that the US has lost more astronauts than USSR and currently russia.

[flybywire09]

@Jimbob8971 No info on cosmonaut deaths was ever released from the former USSR from Glasnost. I've seen projected numbers in the 1000s. NASA's missions were in the public eye, the Soviets were not. Based on the known deaths, and number of flights the US has a much lower percentage of deaths per flight than the USSR, almost 40% less, which is the stat that really matters. The N1; no successful missions, the Buran; no successful missions. Why are you such an advocate for the Soviets anyway?

[Jimbob8971]

@flybywire09 for your information the bruan had 1 successful mission before it was scrapped another thing which we should have done years back to avoid the shit were in now and most N1s were sabotaged by US agents did you know lol we were so scared that our rivals were beating us that we decided to cheat lol the good all US of A a bunch of fucking cheaters (i am talking about the US gov by the way) and i am not advocate for the soviets i just like to stick with the better side thats all.

[flybywire09]

@Jimbob8971 Sabotaged by US agents? Looks like I won this argument.

[Jimbob8971]

@flybywire09 yes SABOTAGED and theres nothing to be proud of winning an argument over youtube you panzie.

[Russia2010]

@flybywire09

looks like u are an fucking brainless fat americunt faggot! withOUT any kind of arguments!

[wirysage]

@Jimbob8971 where's your evidence of sabotage?

[Jimbob8971]

@wirysage erm the cia

[puncheex]

@Jimbob8971: No, the US barely knew about the N-1, and only from high altitude U-S photos. Hell, some Russian rocket doctors claim the N-1 was a fantasy, because it was top secret from start to finish. If we'd had anyone on the inside, they'd have been working the ICBM side of Baikonur, not the moon side.

[puncheex]

@flybywire09: The numbers are in the single digits, just as ours were before the shuttle. See en(.)wikipedia(.)org/wiki/Fall­en_Astronaut

[puncheex]

@Jimbob8971: You know, you really ought to research these things before you open up. According to, for instance, aerospaceweb(.)org/question/hi­story/q0114.shtml , 24 US astronauts and 8 cosmonauts have died in service, four of them in T-38s. One was a passenger, one caught a goose.

[puncheex]

@flybywire09: None.

[dajsinjo]

too many engines, very good engines but too small for that big first stage.

F1 engine was key for success of Saturn 5 and American lunar program.

Too bad that RD-170 didn't came sooner

[ollyk22]

Was the number of engines purly down to the fact they didn't gimble, so engines were individually throttled to maintain attitude.

[dajsinjo]

You are wright, here is something from wikipedia:

The control system was primarily based on differential throttling of the engines, the outer ring for pitch and yaw, the inner six on gimballing mounts for roll ;

Block A produced 43 meganewtons (9,700,000 lbf)[1] of thrust. This exceeded the 33.7 meganewtons (7,600,000 lbf)[2] thrust of the Saturn V ;

Mas of N1-L3 2788 t, Saturn V 3039 t

[puncheex]

@dajsinjo: Yeah, it had better thrust than the Saturn, but it's net weight/fuel weight ratio was higher, too; altogether it's payload to orbit was lower. In all honesty Korolev knew he wouldn't be able to do a moon mission with it. See astronautix(.)com/articles/why­nrace.htm .

[IANBOT2]

Get a rocket crawler.

[loki4145]

105m

[loperspest]

It was like something out of an alternite history. I have never seen this footage before, thanks.

[Braves300]

huge bottle rocket

[booradley4000ad]

Too bad they never made it. Would have been cool.

[ALBRETOM]

ola hello

[georgH]

Thanks.

[foxbat008]

Very good footage - 1st time I've seen it

It looked impressive

Like a lot of Russian stuff it Looked Good -

But KuPut! - O-well

[MegaUltraGalactic79]

Whoa!

[DonPMitchell]

Good find! I haven't seen a lot of this footage before.