..........cont.......... and you do it too often there WILL be a time where you'll g-out in the wrong place or infront of the wrong people. you gotta remember others dont know what a g-hole is. they just see a retard, if you're driving its risky, if you're anywhere in public its humiliating and if its infront of family or friend who care about you its frighting to them to see you that way. ya smoking and drinking and heroin kill more people but g makes you a fool to anyone, and ya you shud care!
Alright, I feel your points are acceptable and understandable, but I feel that you are focusing on GHB simply because you had problems with it. All drugs can be terribly destructive but if safety, moderation, knowledge and common sense are applied, I believe most drug use(yes even heroin and meth)can be safe. I get away with using methamphetamine and cocaine because I follow these simple rules. I have a particular hate of alcohol because it greatly damages others besides the user.
iv been taking this as a bodbuilding supplement, and im impressed. great sleep. nothing in muscle gains but certainly a great aid for getting rest at night.
As every drugs, it seems to be dangerous when not monitored by competent entities. I would say: legalize ! it would help information and training on drugs. Not only ghb, do it with all drugs !!
I'm so sorry. Wish he could've gotten help sooner. Thanks for sharing your story - the truth about this drug. The "cool guys", think they have it under control, invincible - they're told it's not addicting over and over, but experience severe withdrawal symptoms. Very confusing. Sad story. Suki deJong
I personally knew one local "cool guy" who used this drug. When he was not on him he worked a normal job, had nearly everything he wanted. But when he was on it, better even ask him. His girlfriend forced him to quit, but when they seperated, he started to take it once more. One day when he was on drug he decided to take a ride from car which recently had been painted in his father's paint shop. On huge speed he run throught railway crossing hill and car flying in air spinned.
People should be aware that what they believe is GHB can easily also contain a varying amount of GBL as an impurity. Some people knowingly sell GBL as GHB--and they basically should be shot for this. GBL kills, and very poorly made GHB can also. GBL melts plastics and if you are consuming poorly made GHB containing GBL, you may be consuming plastic, as it's often stored in plastic bottles, which GBL can easily dissolve and melt. Mmmm does a body good. Know your source and your concentration
People really need to know the truth about GHB--that with known and appropriate dosage, high purity (free from GBL,) and infrequent use, it is much safer than alcohol and other drugs. GHB in low to moderate dosages is considered non-toxic, having no toxic metabolites, etc. But rarely anyone consumes GHB knowing the amount they are taking--it's often diluted to unknown concentration, making this almost impossible to establish.
btw i 'm not promoting to take GHB, for years prior to my 1st exp i steadfastly refused because i witnessed MANY a person pass out and suck nasty filthy sweat soaked party floor. what i 'm saying is that you can have an amazing time on GHB, just as long as you do not abuse the substance and ALWAYS keep someone around that you trust. the difference between an amazing time and a time you will always regret is very small. just remember respect it, and you will never have a bad time.
i stayed away from G for years. the first time i took it was with this girl at my place. i told her i did not want to pass out she said ok and to make me feel better poured 1 cap of a water bottle which we halfed, then she took 1 full cap. i had a WONDERFUL experience. it gave me a rush of love but gave me a powerful primal feeling. instead of a 1 night stand quickie it felt like a deep immersion of positive feelings, love, instinct, trust, passion. taken with control its epic fantasy.
didn't mean to give your comment a whole new meaning, but honestly, GHB is a whole other animal than alcohol and it gets VERY LITTLE attention. I'm just trying to spread the word that GHB is VERY ADDICTIVE, and you can die from the withdrawal. If I can just get that message out, and if law enforcement and media would also focus on it, I'll be happier.
@almostskater3210 i did it every few hours for a yr strait, , its not physically addicting, its a mental addiction, you want it because you feel good/ confident on it, but you dont crave it, i must've g'd out at least 100 times and its not because i cant handle it or know moderation its because G is unpredictable, and every time i g'd out it was embarrassing to the point where people either stop talking to you or if you have any respect left for yourself you'd be ashamed to face them. i hate it
@troublesomeD and i've cleaned up and im still going threw the problems i caused myself from doing g, nothing is more destructive to your life than g, g addicts you by making you belive theres nothing wrong... that is a scarier addiction than a phisical one. i've lost too many good ppl in my life and suffered enough. i enjoy life now. and i hope all you ghb users smarten up and see yourself when you're g'ing out... if you want an example look it up on youtube. thats YOU! its not funny.
No it is not at all scarier than psychosis, delirium, seizures, dystonia, tremors, RLS, etc, etc. And if you ever went through real withdrawal, you would NEVER make that statement again. There is a reason why heroin, cocaine and meth are huge problems while weed, MDMA, GHB are not. But GHB is physically addicitve: "Gamma-hydroxybutyric acid (GHB) dependence and the GHB withdrawal syndrome: diagnosis and treatment" That is an article in a Dutch scientific journal posted on PubMed.
...(cont) and the only reason why people don't get physically addicted is because its half-life is so short, you would have to dose every couple of hours for weeks to get dependent, and you very well might not, but other people do.I know about GHB and have seen plenty of people on it, and I much rather prefer that than a bunch of drunks breaking shit and hurting people.People on G just pass out.Abuse of ANY drug (even food, sex) will lead to problems and thats what happened to you
...(cont) and on that note I find people on G very funny; I'm not overly self-conscious of how I look because it shouldn't matter. What matters is how you treat other people, and judging someone on how they look or on a personal choice that doesn't affect others is not a good thing.
@almostskater3210 its a hidden evil. if i did g rite now with a group of people we'd have a blast, it seems so harmless, even the way you thin and talk on it, it feels right. it doesnt make you act like a drunk or coke head but what kills it and makes it so destructive to your life is g-ing out, if g didnt make you do that id probably still be doing it, but the makers who make g dont always make it the same. sometimes its strong and you get wired sometimes half a cap g's you ou
I have yet to try GHB but have done significant research on it. There is an amazing wealth of scientific data available online if one does a little scraping. As far as I can tell, apart from the fact that the difference between a recreational dose and an over-the-top dose is so small, this drug appears to be no worse than alcohol. So many people die of alcohol poisoning but no one seems to make a fuss. I'm very sorry to hear about your son though.
@rooflee No one makes a fuss over underage drinking? It's all over the media and our DEA puts a good deal of money into that campaign. They do not investigate, educate or pay much attention to GHB, although it is well worth worrying about in this country. But it is ignored, except by drug companies who want to make it legal for certain afflictions. There is a great deal of dfference between having a few drinks and getting dosed or OD'ing GHB. One, you can die from, the other not.
@deepurplepassion When did I mention underage drinking? I'm talking about drinking in general. And what about people OD'ing on alcohol? You've taken my words and given them a meaning which I never intended.
(continued) alcohol kills more people, way way more people. They demonize GHB. Havnt you ever seen those posters? In fact, alcohol is a carcinogenic neurotoxin, which is addictive just like GHB is, but easier to get addicted to.GHB is prescribed as Xyrem. Alcohol is also more violence-inducing and is responsible for way more DUIs.
haha. Federal agencies might put effort into alcohol-awareness, but society in general accepts it. Alcohol is much worse than GHB in almost every way with the exception of overdose, obviously because of volume issues, although the ED50 and LD50 ratios are very comparable. Alcohol is neurotoxic: lesions to the hippocampus, excitotoxicity via glutamate rebound, hepatotoxicity, carcinogenic, etc. And you can die from alcohol buddy. More addictive, nicotinic acetylcholine action
...(cont) And pharmaceutical companies obviously don't want it legal; if it became legal, well then anybody could buy it at a store. But I think it should be legal: proper dilusions. Also, most GHB overdoses involve alcohol (involved in most overdose deaths); which one is to blame?
Men are also at risk. I've been victim of GHB after meeting 2 girls in a nightclub and bringing them back to my appartment. They stole everything they could, and even went through my identity papers (most of which they took) while I was in a 4hr coma. I can imagine the horrible feeling women go through on waking up... This drug is far too easily available in North America. I nearly died of respiratory dysfunction. If you buy this drug, you are funding a dangerous market of rape, theft and death.
these comments fucking disgust me, people will never know the truth until there addicted or someone very close to them is. There all to stuck up to realize it.
GHB is horrible! it used to be my best friend, now its my worst fucking enemy
Most of you "think" you know something about GHB, yet you are just making yourself sound arrogant and uneducated. GHB can kill you after one drink, it is deadly. I know a girl who was given it and her friends found her dead on the couch the next day. I have been through medical school, and know exactly what this drug is and does. And GHB consists of floor stripper, so if you are dumb enough to drink that then do it
quote from wilpedia "GHB is a naturally-occurring substance found in the central nervous system, wine, beef, small citrus fruits, and almost all animals in small amounts." "GHB is naturally produced in the human body's cells..." "As a supplement/drug, it is used most commonly in the form of a salt.[7] Succinic semialdehyde dehydrogenase deficiency is a disease that causes GHB to accumulate in the blood." GHb is used in cleaner for its solvency, but it was not adapated from a cleaner 1st.
anavas00: have you ever even tried it? Or are you just talking about the bad side without considering why some people would WANT to do it.
I'm on medication that's hard for my liver so I can't really drink alcohol. I personally am taking a look into trying GHB if it doesn't affect the liver too much.
Just gotta be careful with dosage... just like any other drug or medication.
If Julius was taking the drug I'm pretty sure he did know what hit him. If you can't handle the drug don't take it but don't go trying to impose your bullshit on people who can handle it.
Raising awareness of GHB does not mean misleading your listener. Stop using term "highly addictive" because it is NOT! Tell them the truth:
"This is one of a kind drug which with improper administration will probably kill you" . This is the truth. Now, "improper" can simply be mistakenly sipping too much it or mixing it with alcohol. That is why you rarely hear about some one did too much "G" because too much of it, simply puts you under ground. Your call.
GHB is probably the cleanest and safest drug known to man. These freaks will find something bad to say about everything their simple minds can't comprehend.
@jasonreal79 I totally agree with most of what people on here are saying about ignorance and fear mongering over GHB. It is not a 'killer drug' or even used for date rape. It is also one of the purest things you will ever take in your life! It actually has life enhancement properties. However believe me, though it is hard to achieve, a true GHB addiction can occur with someone well minded and it is a terrible thing. It makes the person feel like life is not worth living without it.
GHB physical addiction is way easier then alcohol addiction something that people get off alone just by will of power, to get addicted you have to drink it every 4 hour for a weak, and its not found yet to harm human body in recreational dose. so the way I see it? its safer then alcohol... the issue is that it can be easly used as date rape drug.
eh, GHB is not that "too easy to overdose" drug... you have to drink it like idiot to get overdose, becauseif you already take large dose then you fall asleep, so why you would take higher dose then the dose that makes you fall asleep?!
With alcohol you slowly dose over the night till you are happy. With GHB/GBL it's one nice hit, yes I agree the dose responce is steep and for new comers - do NOT do it in public because it can be easy to pass out on. Saying that I've hit GBL daily way to much and I bet if it was Alcohol I'd be running into alot of health problems. Last night I must of done over 10ml, today I had 2 hits and one little one now and I'm gunna keep off it for a couple of days.
I was ignorant too when I first started with ghb 4 years ago. Having a highly addictive personality doesnt help. The withdrawls are among the worst of any drug, when used every hour 24/7.
You are a fucking idiot. You CANT overdose on pure ghb. Ghb is found naturally in the human body. Its used in other countries as a non addictive pain reliever and is also given to women during birth to assist in the birth process. Your friend probably took gbl, commonly confused with ghb. which has minor negative side effects but the same high feeling. Taking too much GHB causes you to sleep, thats it. So get your facts straight before you dis one of the most helpful revolutionary substances.
ghb stopped me from drinking alchohol, weed, extacy and many other drugs, i make it and i take it, one week on and one week off, its the best drug out there, makes you say shit u thought u never knew, you can have lengthy conversations with doctors and lawyers when on this shit, i took it before all my job interviews and got the job, any questions about ghb ask me, i'm the daddy
Don't use it everyday ... you'll find the side effects and withdrawals will start kicking in REAL EARLY. Very easy to get hooked on because how cheap the stuff is and you can get a frig load of it.
AVOID alcohol. Even if it's a beer, your normal GHB/GBL could go from a normal dose to an overdose.
Anyone using GHB/GBL, know your dose and because the drunkness runs out quick it's easy to redose too much or too early. Start off small.
2.4-2.6ml of GBL is good for me but 1.8ml is too much for some people. Start small and work your may up.
Second time I used it, 2ml wasn't that good, did frig all (couple of beers) but 1ml after 45 minutes was like a bottle of vodka, I had a 'very mild' overdose (where I passed out for not long.
Im 53 years old and Started heavy drug use at age 13 to the age of 36 and today my liver is damaged to the point where it affects my life- I hope those of you are doing it will be careful- once the damage is done , it might not be reversed and in the end its not worth it- I know you heard it all before as I did. and I did not listen, we all have to make our own mistakes in life - looking back today I wish I never did any drugs.
ok in the first opening instances of this video - the facts are completely wrong. for starters the amount of G he puts in that girl's drink would not be enough to make her vomit. you need about 6mls+ to make someone unconscious. a few drops? she'd be having a pretty time on the dancefloor.
Hey, your a complete idiot too. YOU CANT DIE FROM GHB. pure ghb is impossible to overdose on. If you take too much PURE GHB then you will fall into a "coma like" sleep for around 3-6 hours. GET YOUR DAMN FACTS STRAIGHT!
you seem to fail to consider and acknoledge the benefits of it.
i've been on heroin, severely, and heavy alcohol abuse for nearly 6 years. GHB saved me. i've had some periods of immense stress and pressure in my life that i couldn't have handled without GHB. i feel healthier ever since i started using it. have a look at its profile. of course, with heavy abuse something terrible is bound to happen..
You are all full of shit. GHB occurs naturally in our bodies hence why GHB was sold legally in stores for decades as a supplement. I used it for 10 years on myself without a single bad incident. I would make it myself as U shouldnt trust what u buy from others. It is so easy to make with just 3 things: GBL (lactone), Sodium Hydroxide and finally water. Mix together and tada GHB! The 1st 2 ingredients can be obtained cheaply in pure form from chemical suppliers on internet. Purity is important.
Moron! You can take it to supplement yourself all you want. But if you take it for recreation, you're taking TOO much, and eventually your body will STOP producing the natural GHB you speak of, and when that happens, you need to do more and more just to be normal. Or you can stop, and hope the withdrawal doesn't kill you. Just like any other drug. WTF is wrong with people?
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GHB is the stupidest fucking thing you could put in your body! Anyone who uses GHB is a fucking idiot who has no life and no future! You got to be the stupidest fucking piece of shit to try GHB! It is a date rape drug and everyday innocent women are raped by GHB and similar drugs. It's odorless, tasteless, and clear. You need to watch your drinks in night clubs and don't accept drinks from strangers. Anyone who uses GHB to rape women is a fucking gay ass fagot who's gonna burn in fucking hell!
hello. GHB is salty and has odour. Do some research, you'l find 'date rape' drugs are alcohol and benzodiazipines. GHB knocks you out, benzo's make you forgetful. Whats easier, to drag an unconsious girl out of a bar, or drag a concious girl out with no recolection of whats going on? you decide,
And GHB is a natural chemical of the body, used sensibly is no worse than drinking water
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It sounds like you have experience with GHB. You must have raped a girl or two in your lifetime. I hope you have fun in jail when it's time to step in the shower with 15 dudes. Let them know that your in jail for rape. Their gonna have a surprise for you and they wont be using GHB.
It sounds like you were raped from having consumed GHB, as indicated by your emotion with this topic. Get over it, and learn how to spell elementary words for fucks sakes if you want to go around calling people idiots.
I can't really trust GHB. I hear it is less harmful than alcohol. You buy it off street you don't know what is in it. How about regulated GHB? Liquor industry does not want that.
If people want to try GHB then let them, it's something different - it's the same reason people drink, smoke. Don't say GHB is bad because of date rape, people who use it for rape are idoits and deserve thrown away.
GHB has an 'aweful' taste - if you take a sip of even water with GHB you'll know it's not water.
It's not just a 'date rape' drug, people have a blast on it insted of boring old alcohol plus there aint a hangover.
If using GHB be aware of the dangers and don't mix with alcohol.
GHB has a very mild taste - just slightly salty. GBL - its precursor, has this crazy vinyl-like taste, which is probably what you're thinking of. GBL and GHB have the same effects, but GBL hits quicker.
That's my son, my only son, Julius. He did his own research - got addicted to the shit. I researched this drug for 4 years, then made the film - in his memory. Just trying to warn others, no propaganda.
Reading the comments on this site makes me want to weep and scream out in exasperation. I lost my brother two weeks ago as a result of GHB addiction. His last few months were nothing remotely like the highs these people are talking about. He was in a very dark place that he found terrifying. His so-called "friends" seemed to suddenly vanish into thin air when my poor Mum and Dad were asking for assistance when planning his funeral and memorial service. mmm great friends.
I'm so terribly sorry for your loss and my heart goes out to your parents. Julius's friends let him "sleep it off", while his life force slipped away. Thank you for helping to spread the truth about GHB. Suki deJong
I am sorry about your brother sincerely. And I am sorry about my other negative comment here but I am confused. How & why did he die from the addiction? Was he mixing with other drugs or chemicals? Was it the withdrawals that did it?I used GHB around the clock for 10 years but then I quit. It took about a week & was a nasty feeling but I was not near death. I here often people say they know someone who died from GHB addiction & am unsure of what the real danger is that caused the death from GHB.
No, he wasn't on anything else, only GHB, but an enormous amount of it, no kidding. The hospital, where he ended up in intensive care in a coma had never seen anything quite like it. His body was screwed. He died from withdrawal, (renal failure, pneumonia and muscle wastage). Through research, they are now discovering this happens. He knew the score and had done his reading. He'd warned my parents that he wouldn't live to 40. He was so right.
This is exactly why all medical personell need to get educated on this drug fast. As well as law enforcment people. I have asked many doctors who I saw while I was on GHB & seeking knowledge & they would tell me they never heard of it and had no idea what I was talking about. When I wished to quit I asked several doctors if I can be put in rehab so I can safely withdraw from it. That didn't happen as they had no clue what it was I was taking or how it worked. I got Klonopin to help me through.
I hope I'm not asking too personal a question but what made you decide to quit after 10 years? You say that you didn't have any bad incidents in this time. My brother was on it for over 15 years and as I say, he was having to take more and more of the stuff. Towards the end he just couldn't get enough in him to even function properly let alone get some kind of high.
Medical personell do need to get educated. We are from the UK and knowledge here is way behind that in the States sadly.
I agree to some extent. GHB can be extremely dangerous if abused. Although physiologically almost benign it can cause overdose at only 2-3x the recreational dose, possibly even lethal. But taken responsibly it is also one of the safest drugs available. It's not drugs that are the problem, it's irresponsible drug use. No drugs kill at recreational doses, no drugs get you hooked from the first time, but some can cause problems at usage levels closer to the average than others.
Yeah GHB is a beautiful drug. AND my cigarettes are delicious ... excuseme now while I go hook up to my condensed oxygen machine for a couple of hours ...
GHB is a beautiful drug. I use it just about once a week. I'm well educated, not addicted, have a great social life and healthy.
Go to a club and watch drunk men smash bottles over each others faces and stomp on other peoples heads for bumping into each other.
We don't need to be scared away from drugs, we need more people to be educated about them. It's perfectly safe if the user is responsible and educated about it how to safely take it.
Ur absolutely right, ppl need to be more educated about GHB 2 understand that it's harmless when using it responsible.
2 B honest I'm drinkin GBL right now (GammeButyroLactone) the liver converts it to GHB and u can buy it legal here as paint remover. cool huh :P it's the stuff they use to make it (let it react with natrium and voila.. GHB)
Im of 2 bed now, drink another glass and in about 5 hours ill wake up and be just as fit :D
haha ya... its good thing this isn't a popular drug or the world would be a messed up place
vancity132 1 month ago
..........cont.......... and you do it too often there WILL be a time where you'll g-out in the wrong place or infront of the wrong people. you gotta remember others dont know what a g-hole is. they just see a retard, if you're driving its risky, if you're anywhere in public its humiliating and if its infront of family or friend who care about you its frighting to them to see you that way. ya smoking and drinking and heroin kill more people but g makes you a fool to anyone, and ya you shud care!
troublesomeD 1 month ago
@troublesomeD
Alright, I feel your points are acceptable and understandable, but I feel that you are focusing on GHB simply because you had problems with it. All drugs can be terribly destructive but if safety, moderation, knowledge and common sense are applied, I believe most drug use(yes even heroin and meth)can be safe. I get away with using methamphetamine and cocaine because I follow these simple rules. I have a particular hate of alcohol because it greatly damages others besides the user.
almostskater3210 1 month ago
Merci c'est cool ! je vais me faire un ptit 1.8...
Bizz
AmnesiaGm1 10 months ago
iv been taking this as a bodbuilding supplement, and im impressed. great sleep. nothing in muscle gains but certainly a great aid for getting rest at night.
TheMegaRoflcopter 11 months ago
As every drugs, it seems to be dangerous when not monitored by competent entities. I would say: legalize ! it would help information and training on drugs. Not only ghb, do it with all drugs !!
amormocambique 1 year ago
I'm so sorry. Wish he could've gotten help sooner. Thanks for sharing your story - the truth about this drug. The "cool guys", think they have it under control, invincible - they're told it's not addicting over and over, but experience severe withdrawal symptoms. Very confusing. Sad story. Suki deJong
deepurplepassion 1 year ago
I personally knew one local "cool guy" who used this drug. When he was not on him he worked a normal job, had nearly everything he wanted. But when he was on it, better even ask him. His girlfriend forced him to quit, but when they seperated, he started to take it once more. One day when he was on drug he decided to take a ride from car which recently had been painted in his father's paint shop. On huge speed he run throught railway crossing hill and car flying in air spinned.
chronius9 1 year ago
People should be aware that what they believe is GHB can easily also contain a varying amount of GBL as an impurity. Some people knowingly sell GBL as GHB--and they basically should be shot for this. GBL kills, and very poorly made GHB can also. GBL melts plastics and if you are consuming poorly made GHB containing GBL, you may be consuming plastic, as it's often stored in plastic bottles, which GBL can easily dissolve and melt. Mmmm does a body good. Know your source and your concentration
gerdunga 1 year ago
People really need to know the truth about GHB--that with known and appropriate dosage, high purity (free from GBL,) and infrequent use, it is much safer than alcohol and other drugs. GHB in low to moderate dosages is considered non-toxic, having no toxic metabolites, etc. But rarely anyone consumes GHB knowing the amount they are taking--it's often diluted to unknown concentration, making this almost impossible to establish.
gerdunga 1 year ago
Please stop spreading lies. Rohypnol (aka roofies) is known as the date rape drug.
norxcontacts 1 year ago
btw i 'm not promoting to take GHB, for years prior to my 1st exp i steadfastly refused because i witnessed MANY a person pass out and suck nasty filthy sweat soaked party floor. what i 'm saying is that you can have an amazing time on GHB, just as long as you do not abuse the substance and ALWAYS keep someone around that you trust. the difference between an amazing time and a time you will always regret is very small. just remember respect it, and you will never have a bad time.
MangoBastard 1 year ago
i stayed away from G for years. the first time i took it was with this girl at my place. i told her i did not want to pass out she said ok and to make me feel better poured 1 cap of a water bottle which we halfed, then she took 1 full cap. i had a WONDERFUL experience. it gave me a rush of love but gave me a powerful primal feeling. instead of a 1 night stand quickie it felt like a deep immersion of positive feelings, love, instinct, trust, passion. taken with control its epic fantasy.
MangoBastard 1 year ago
didn't mean to give your comment a whole new meaning, but honestly, GHB is a whole other animal than alcohol and it gets VERY LITTLE attention. I'm just trying to spread the word that GHB is VERY ADDICTIVE, and you can die from the withdrawal. If I can just get that message out, and if law enforcement and media would also focus on it, I'll be happier.
deepurplepassion 1 year ago
@deepurplepassion screw law enforcment
jonathanmoreno1000 10 months ago
@deepurplepassion
Its half life is so short you would LITERALLY have to do it every few hours for weeks to get addicted.
almostskater3210 7 months ago
@almostskater3210 i did it every few hours for a yr strait, , its not physically addicting, its a mental addiction, you want it because you feel good/ confident on it, but you dont crave it, i must've g'd out at least 100 times and its not because i cant handle it or know moderation its because G is unpredictable, and every time i g'd out it was embarrassing to the point where people either stop talking to you or if you have any respect left for yourself you'd be ashamed to face them. i hate it
troublesomeD 2 months ago
@troublesomeD and i've cleaned up and im still going threw the problems i caused myself from doing g, nothing is more destructive to your life than g, g addicts you by making you belive theres nothing wrong... that is a scarier addiction than a phisical one. i've lost too many good ppl in my life and suffered enough. i enjoy life now. and i hope all you ghb users smarten up and see yourself when you're g'ing out... if you want an example look it up on youtube. thats YOU! its not funny.
troublesomeD 2 months ago
@troublesomeD
No it is not at all scarier than psychosis, delirium, seizures, dystonia, tremors, RLS, etc, etc. And if you ever went through real withdrawal, you would NEVER make that statement again. There is a reason why heroin, cocaine and meth are huge problems while weed, MDMA, GHB are not. But GHB is physically addicitve: "Gamma-hydroxybutyric acid (GHB) dependence and the GHB withdrawal syndrome: diagnosis and treatment" That is an article in a Dutch scientific journal posted on PubMed.
almostskater3210 2 months ago
@troublesomeD
...(cont) and the only reason why people don't get physically addicted is because its half-life is so short, you would have to dose every couple of hours for weeks to get dependent, and you very well might not, but other people do.I know about GHB and have seen plenty of people on it, and I much rather prefer that than a bunch of drunks breaking shit and hurting people.People on G just pass out.Abuse of ANY drug (even food, sex) will lead to problems and thats what happened to you
almostskater3210 2 months ago
@troublesomeD
...(cont) and on that note I find people on G very funny; I'm not overly self-conscious of how I look because it shouldn't matter. What matters is how you treat other people, and judging someone on how they look or on a personal choice that doesn't affect others is not a good thing.
almostskater3210 2 months ago
@almostskater3210 its a hidden evil. if i did g rite now with a group of people we'd have a blast, it seems so harmless, even the way you thin and talk on it, it feels right. it doesnt make you act like a drunk or coke head but what kills it and makes it so destructive to your life is g-ing out, if g didnt make you do that id probably still be doing it, but the makers who make g dont always make it the same. sometimes its strong and you get wired sometimes half a cap g's you ou
troublesomeD 1 month ago
I have yet to try GHB but have done significant research on it. There is an amazing wealth of scientific data available online if one does a little scraping. As far as I can tell, apart from the fact that the difference between a recreational dose and an over-the-top dose is so small, this drug appears to be no worse than alcohol. So many people die of alcohol poisoning but no one seems to make a fuss. I'm very sorry to hear about your son though.
rooflee 1 year ago
@rooflee No one makes a fuss over underage drinking? It's all over the media and our DEA puts a good deal of money into that campaign. They do not investigate, educate or pay much attention to GHB, although it is well worth worrying about in this country. But it is ignored, except by drug companies who want to make it legal for certain afflictions. There is a great deal of dfference between having a few drinks and getting dosed or OD'ing GHB. One, you can die from, the other not.
deepurplepassion 1 year ago
@deepurplepassion When did I mention underage drinking? I'm talking about drinking in general. And what about people OD'ing on alcohol? You've taken my words and given them a meaning which I never intended.
rooflee 1 year ago
@deepurplepassion legalize it all svrew the dea.
jonathanmoreno1000 10 months ago
@deepurplepassion
(continued) alcohol kills more people, way way more people. They demonize GHB. Havnt you ever seen those posters? In fact, alcohol is a carcinogenic neurotoxin, which is addictive just like GHB is, but easier to get addicted to.GHB is prescribed as Xyrem. Alcohol is also more violence-inducing and is responsible for way more DUIs.
almostskater3210 7 months ago
@deepurplepassion
haha. Federal agencies might put effort into alcohol-awareness, but society in general accepts it. Alcohol is much worse than GHB in almost every way with the exception of overdose, obviously because of volume issues, although the ED50 and LD50 ratios are very comparable. Alcohol is neurotoxic: lesions to the hippocampus, excitotoxicity via glutamate rebound, hepatotoxicity, carcinogenic, etc. And you can die from alcohol buddy. More addictive, nicotinic acetylcholine action
almostskater3210 2 months ago
@deepurplepassion
...(cont) And pharmaceutical companies obviously don't want it legal; if it became legal, well then anybody could buy it at a store. But I think it should be legal: proper dilusions. Also, most GHB overdoses involve alcohol (involved in most overdose deaths); which one is to blame?
almostskater3210 2 months ago
Men are also at risk. I've been victim of GHB after meeting 2 girls in a nightclub and bringing them back to my appartment. They stole everything they could, and even went through my identity papers (most of which they took) while I was in a 4hr coma. I can imagine the horrible feeling women go through on waking up... This drug is far too easily available in North America. I nearly died of respiratory dysfunction. If you buy this drug, you are funding a dangerous market of rape, theft and death.
Voydr 1 year ago
these comments fucking disgust me, people will never know the truth until there addicted or someone very close to them is. There all to stuck up to realize it.
GHB is horrible! it used to be my best friend, now its my worst fucking enemy
i wouldnt wish being addicted to ghb on anyone!
iLaLaLoveyou69 1 year ago
ghb only kills if you combine it with other downers
shwanz5150 1 year ago
Most of you "think" you know something about GHB, yet you are just making yourself sound arrogant and uneducated. GHB can kill you after one drink, it is deadly. I know a girl who was given it and her friends found her dead on the couch the next day. I have been through medical school, and know exactly what this drug is and does. And GHB consists of floor stripper, so if you are dumb enough to drink that then do it
anavas00 1 year ago
quote from wilpedia "GHB is a naturally-occurring substance found in the central nervous system, wine, beef, small citrus fruits, and almost all animals in small amounts." "GHB is naturally produced in the human body's cells..." "As a supplement/drug, it is used most commonly in the form of a salt.[7] Succinic semialdehyde dehydrogenase deficiency is a disease that causes GHB to accumulate in the blood." GHb is used in cleaner for its solvency, but it was not adapated from a cleaner 1st.
mixitup1time 1 year ago
anavas00: have you ever even tried it? Or are you just talking about the bad side without considering why some people would WANT to do it.
I'm on medication that's hard for my liver so I can't really drink alcohol. I personally am taking a look into trying GHB if it doesn't affect the liver too much.
Just gotta be careful with dosage... just like any other drug or medication.
danconia3873 1 year ago
@anavas00 and add to that! Drain cleaner!
AGENTSAFESCHOOLS 1 year ago
If Julius was taking the drug I'm pretty sure he did know what hit him. If you can't handle the drug don't take it but don't go trying to impose your bullshit on people who can handle it.
BogMonkey53 1 year ago 2
Mrs. Trinka,
Raising awareness of GHB does not mean misleading your listener. Stop using term "highly addictive" because it is NOT! Tell them the truth:
"This is one of a kind drug which with improper administration will probably kill you" . This is the truth. Now, "improper" can simply be mistakenly sipping too much it or mixing it with alcohol. That is why you rarely hear about some one did too much "G" because too much of it, simply puts you under ground. Your call.
jasonreal79 2 years ago
GHB is probably the cleanest and safest drug known to man. These freaks will find something bad to say about everything their simple minds can't comprehend.
BogMonkey53 1 year ago
@jasonreal79 I totally agree with most of what people on here are saying about ignorance and fear mongering over GHB. It is not a 'killer drug' or even used for date rape. It is also one of the purest things you will ever take in your life! It actually has life enhancement properties. However believe me, though it is hard to achieve, a true GHB addiction can occur with someone well minded and it is a terrible thing. It makes the person feel like life is not worth living without it.
bpatrice49 1 year ago
GHB physical addiction is way easier then alcohol addiction something that people get off alone just by will of power, to get addicted you have to drink it every 4 hour for a weak, and its not found yet to harm human body in recreational dose. so the way I see it? its safer then alcohol... the issue is that it can be easly used as date rape drug.
FimaWWW 2 years ago
Its not safer than alcohal. The difference between a dose that can fuck you up and a dose that can kill you can be as little as .5 grams
peter3maria 2 years ago
eh, GHB is not that "too easy to overdose" drug... you have to drink it like idiot to get overdose, becauseif you already take large dose then you fall asleep, so why you would take higher dose then the dose that makes you fall asleep?!
FimaWWW 2 years ago
With alcohol you slowly dose over the night till you are happy. With GHB/GBL it's one nice hit, yes I agree the dose responce is steep and for new comers - do NOT do it in public because it can be easy to pass out on. Saying that I've hit GBL daily way to much and I bet if it was Alcohol I'd be running into alot of health problems. Last night I must of done over 10ml, today I had 2 hits and one little one now and I'm gunna keep off it for a couple of days.
Reknaw133 2 years ago
I LOVE CAPPY TIME!!!! only thing ill still do. i dont even smoke weed anymore or drink alch but i drink capps
aysect 2 years ago
Anything in moderation is ok. Anything in excess is bad.
I've done GHB a few times, it was fun as hell - kinda like being power drunk... but not as incoherent tho.
Just be responsible with recreational drug use, and understand that, YES - YOU CAN GET ADDICTED TOO.
cpynch 2 years ago
alcohol abuse is even worse.
alcohol abuse is accepted by the community but GHB is an illicit substance making its use harder to become dependent on due to supply and price.
PartVIII 2 years ago
I was ignorant too when I first started with ghb 4 years ago. Having a highly addictive personality doesnt help. The withdrawls are among the worst of any drug, when used every hour 24/7.
gordygrinder 2 years ago
wow. every hour 24/7? yeah, thats just stupid. a small dose of ghb during a dance ONCE a WEEK is fine in my opinion.
mikeygee7 2 years ago
You are a fucking idiot. You CANT overdose on pure ghb. Ghb is found naturally in the human body. Its used in other countries as a non addictive pain reliever and is also given to women during birth to assist in the birth process. Your friend probably took gbl, commonly confused with ghb. which has minor negative side effects but the same high feeling. Taking too much GHB causes you to sleep, thats it. So get your facts straight before you dis one of the most helpful revolutionary substances.
joeyjack0101 2 years ago
ghb stopped me from drinking alchohol, weed, extacy and many other drugs, i make it and i take it, one week on and one week off, its the best drug out there, makes you say shit u thought u never knew, you can have lengthy conversations with doctors and lawyers when on this shit, i took it before all my job interviews and got the job, any questions about ghb ask me, i'm the daddy
popmaster2006 2 years ago
Don't use it everyday ... you'll find the side effects and withdrawals will start kicking in REAL EARLY. Very easy to get hooked on because how cheap the stuff is and you can get a frig load of it.
AVOID alcohol. Even if it's a beer, your normal GHB/GBL could go from a normal dose to an overdose.
Reknaw133 2 years ago
Anyone using GHB/GBL, know your dose and because the drunkness runs out quick it's easy to redose too much or too early. Start off small.
2.4-2.6ml of GBL is good for me but 1.8ml is too much for some people. Start small and work your may up.
Second time I used it, 2ml wasn't that good, did frig all (couple of beers) but 1ml after 45 minutes was like a bottle of vodka, I had a 'very mild' overdose (where I passed out for not long.
Reknaw133 2 years ago
Im 53 years old and Started heavy drug use at age 13 to the age of 36 and today my liver is damaged to the point where it affects my life- I hope those of you are doing it will be careful- once the damage is done , it might not be reversed and in the end its not worth it- I know you heard it all before as I did. and I did not listen, we all have to make our own mistakes in life - looking back today I wish I never did any drugs.
CaptRam 2 years ago 3
Yes, but you are among the few who know how to pass the point without offending anyone and such.
CuriousTimmy 2 years ago
this is completely GAY.
fatboybob4 2 years ago
People die from pharmaceutical drugs side effects. Why not mention a few of those?
Schwaigerwappen 2 years ago
ghb is not a "rape drug" stupid
heaheaheaa 2 years ago
ok in the first opening instances of this video - the facts are completely wrong. for starters the amount of G he puts in that girl's drink would not be enough to make her vomit. you need about 6mls+ to make someone unconscious. a few drops? she'd be having a pretty time on the dancefloor.
Light: 0.75-1.75g
Standard: 1.75-2.75g
Strong: 2.75-4g
Heavy: 5g or more
Overdose: 6.25g or more
Coma: 8.75g or more
Death: 10g or more
1g powdered = 1ml liquid
anthonyjcox 3 years ago
Hey, your a complete idiot too. YOU CANT DIE FROM GHB. pure ghb is impossible to overdose on. If you take too much PURE GHB then you will fall into a "coma like" sleep for around 3-6 hours. GET YOUR DAMN FACTS STRAIGHT!
joeyjack0101 2 years ago
hmm..
you seem to fail to consider and acknoledge the benefits of it.
i've been on heroin, severely, and heavy alcohol abuse for nearly 6 years. GHB saved me. i've had some periods of immense stress and pressure in my life that i couldn't have handled without GHB. i feel healthier ever since i started using it. have a look at its profile. of course, with heavy abuse something terrible is bound to happen..
AciDBianka 3 years ago
You are all full of shit. GHB occurs naturally in our bodies hence why GHB was sold legally in stores for decades as a supplement. I used it for 10 years on myself without a single bad incident. I would make it myself as U shouldnt trust what u buy from others. It is so easy to make with just 3 things: GBL (lactone), Sodium Hydroxide and finally water. Mix together and tada GHB! The 1st 2 ingredients can be obtained cheaply in pure form from chemical suppliers on internet. Purity is important.
FaceOfGod2 3 years ago
Moron! You can take it to supplement yourself all you want. But if you take it for recreation, you're taking TOO much, and eventually your body will STOP producing the natural GHB you speak of, and when that happens, you need to do more and more just to be normal. Or you can stop, and hope the withdrawal doesn't kill you. Just like any other drug. WTF is wrong with people?
diaboliceve 3 years ago
Why not just atke the GBL, then, though?
CuriousTimmy 2 years ago
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GHB is the stupidest fucking thing you could put in your body! Anyone who uses GHB is a fucking idiot who has no life and no future! You got to be the stupidest fucking piece of shit to try GHB! It is a date rape drug and everyday innocent women are raped by GHB and similar drugs. It's odorless, tasteless, and clear. You need to watch your drinks in night clubs and don't accept drinks from strangers. Anyone who uses GHB to rape women is a fucking gay ass fagot who's gonna burn in fucking hell!
pidos847 3 years ago
hello. GHB is salty and has odour. Do some research, you'l find 'date rape' drugs are alcohol and benzodiazipines. GHB knocks you out, benzo's make you forgetful. Whats easier, to drag an unconsious girl out of a bar, or drag a concious girl out with no recolection of whats going on? you decide,
And GHB is a natural chemical of the body, used sensibly is no worse than drinking water
sundayraver 3 years ago
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It sounds like you have experience with GHB. You must have raped a girl or two in your lifetime. I hope you have fun in jail when it's time to step in the shower with 15 dudes. Let them know that your in jail for rape. Their gonna have a surprise for you and they wont be using GHB.
pidos847 3 years ago
It sounds like you were raped from having consumed GHB, as indicated by your emotion with this topic. Get over it, and learn how to spell elementary words for fucks sakes if you want to go around calling people idiots.
carsonwilder 3 years ago 3
I can't really trust GHB. I hear it is less harmful than alcohol. You buy it off street you don't know what is in it. How about regulated GHB? Liquor industry does not want that.
jabmalassie 3 years ago
If people want to try GHB then let them, it's something different - it's the same reason people drink, smoke. Don't say GHB is bad because of date rape, people who use it for rape are idoits and deserve thrown away.
GHB has an 'aweful' taste - if you take a sip of even water with GHB you'll know it's not water.
It's not just a 'date rape' drug, people have a blast on it insted of boring old alcohol plus there aint a hangover.
If using GHB be aware of the dangers and don't mix with alcohol.
Reknaw133 3 years ago
GHB has a very mild taste - just slightly salty. GBL - its precursor, has this crazy vinyl-like taste, which is probably what you're thinking of. GBL and GHB have the same effects, but GBL hits quicker.
carsonwilder 3 years ago
propaganda...ignore this and do your own research..
azuanzen 3 years ago
That's my son, my only son, Julius. He did his own research - got addicted to the shit. I researched this drug for 4 years, then made the film - in his memory. Just trying to warn others, no propaganda.
deepurplepassion 3 years ago
Reading the comments on this site makes me want to weep and scream out in exasperation. I lost my brother two weeks ago as a result of GHB addiction. His last few months were nothing remotely like the highs these people are talking about. He was in a very dark place that he found terrifying. His so-called "friends" seemed to suddenly vanish into thin air when my poor Mum and Dad were asking for assistance when planning his funeral and memorial service. mmm great friends.
davebroth 3 years ago
I'm so terribly sorry for your loss and my heart goes out to your parents. Julius's friends let him "sleep it off", while his life force slipped away. Thank you for helping to spread the truth about GHB. Suki deJong
deepurplepassion 3 years ago
I am sorry about your brother sincerely. And I am sorry about my other negative comment here but I am confused. How & why did he die from the addiction? Was he mixing with other drugs or chemicals? Was it the withdrawals that did it?I used GHB around the clock for 10 years but then I quit. It took about a week & was a nasty feeling but I was not near death. I here often people say they know someone who died from GHB addiction & am unsure of what the real danger is that caused the death from GHB.
FaceOfGod2 3 years ago
No, he wasn't on anything else, only GHB, but an enormous amount of it, no kidding. The hospital, where he ended up in intensive care in a coma had never seen anything quite like it. His body was screwed. He died from withdrawal, (renal failure, pneumonia and muscle wastage). Through research, they are now discovering this happens. He knew the score and had done his reading. He'd warned my parents that he wouldn't live to 40. He was so right.
davebroth 3 years ago
This is exactly why all medical personell need to get educated on this drug fast. As well as law enforcment people. I have asked many doctors who I saw while I was on GHB & seeking knowledge & they would tell me they never heard of it and had no idea what I was talking about. When I wished to quit I asked several doctors if I can be put in rehab so I can safely withdraw from it. That didn't happen as they had no clue what it was I was taking or how it worked. I got Klonopin to help me through.
FaceOfGod2 3 years ago
I hope I'm not asking too personal a question but what made you decide to quit after 10 years? You say that you didn't have any bad incidents in this time. My brother was on it for over 15 years and as I say, he was having to take more and more of the stuff. Towards the end he just couldn't get enough in him to even function properly let alone get some kind of high.
Medical personell do need to get educated. We are from the UK and knowledge here is way behind that in the States sadly.
davebroth 3 years ago
@deepurplepassion There is no evidence for any of the remarkably few reported cases of ghb being used in date rape.
Flamingpiano 1 year ago
can someone explain to me, how do you come across GHB? i heard something about degreaser? O.o
MotherPuncher420 3 years ago
google GBL and you'l get closer.
Google "convert GBL to GHB" and you're even closer ;)
sundayraver 3 years ago
good shit
MotherPuncher420 3 years ago
I sometimes to it for a week straight,
Did it for a year straight
Nothing happends , as long as you have benzos to come off
mohawk19842 3 years ago
The truth:
GHB is awesome.
carsonwilder 3 years ago 2
use its abuse. just dont mix with alcohol or other drugs
magnos2020 3 years ago
I agree to some extent. GHB can be extremely dangerous if abused. Although physiologically almost benign it can cause overdose at only 2-3x the recreational dose, possibly even lethal. But taken responsibly it is also one of the safest drugs available. It's not drugs that are the problem, it's irresponsible drug use. No drugs kill at recreational doses, no drugs get you hooked from the first time, but some can cause problems at usage levels closer to the average than others.
josepemacdonald 3 years ago 2
Don't forget alcohol is one of the more dangerous drugs out there
josepemacdonald 3 years ago 2
Yeah GHB is a beautiful drug. AND my cigarettes are delicious ... excuseme now while I go hook up to my condensed oxygen machine for a couple of hours ...
booth2710 3 years ago
GHB is a beautiful drug. I use it just about once a week. I'm well educated, not addicted, have a great social life and healthy.
Go to a club and watch drunk men smash bottles over each others faces and stomp on other peoples heads for bumping into each other.
We don't need to be scared away from drugs, we need more people to be educated about them. It's perfectly safe if the user is responsible and educated about it how to safely take it.
I'm drinking some right now actually.
MaximusUK06 3 years ago 15
Do be careful. My son thought he had it all under control as well.
deepurplepassion 3 years ago
Ur absolutely right, ppl need to be more educated about GHB 2 understand that it's harmless when using it responsible.
2 B honest I'm drinkin GBL right now (GammeButyroLactone) the liver converts it to GHB and u can buy it legal here as paint remover. cool huh :P it's the stuff they use to make it (let it react with natrium and voila.. GHB)
Im of 2 bed now, drink another glass and in about 5 hours ill wake up and be just as fit :D
GHB 4 life xD
malburgenaar 3 years ago
@MaximusUK06 go ahead man i here you.dont ever think that the law have any buisness in medical problems/
jonathanmoreno1000 10 months ago
GHB forever!=)
shtolcmann 3 years ago
aaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahah
muscleoffigus 4 years ago
A very important topic & beautifully filmed.
pencil105 4 years ago
Good Work!!! So important to get this message out. Many victims were simply unaware. Share, share, share!!
yourstorydigital 4 years ago