Lorry stuck in heavy snow on the M5 in Worcestershire 18/12/10

[BMWFTW123]

I can't believe the van driver at the end didn't have any lights on at all what a fucking idiot

[TheMuzzaj]

if the bloddy gritters would get off the arses and stop watching the simpsons the roads wouldn't be like this well atlest they wouldnt be as bad.

[GWR4079]

@TheMuzzaj gritting only stopos ice to about -10 max and if theres loads of snow the grit don't work

[babyhollywoodisdead1]

1:07 tom-tom says"make an U turn where safe"

[azizukman]

I wonder if the reason these drivers are out in this weather is worth their lives.

[wildwx99]

why are people even out in this mess ??

[WladekBF3]

if you will have winter tyres you doesn't have this problem

[FLHKSBonYT]

@WladekBF3

you doesn't ?? --> you FAIL

[Arrrbol]

If the council actually gritted the roads we would have been fine

[mattdobsoncouk]

@Arrrbol

The Highways Agency Area 9 are responsible for gritting that stretch of motorway. And they did grit it. Unfortunately even with salt/grit on the roads, it does very little to prevent snow of that intensity from settling and accumulating. People are sometimes mis-informed by tabloid press etc that roads have not been gritted when indeed they have!

[mannwhosoldtheworld]

Now if he had two drive axles with an inter-axle locker, he'd be golden. I never understood why europe hates tandem drives

[OttovonEarth]

@mannwhosoldtheworld It depends where in Europe, in Finland and Sweden tandem drive is common in terms of timber trucks (rigid + drawbar trailer) and not just an inter-axle locker included but dif locks too. A 60 tonnes 6x2 rigid with 5-axle trailer combo is also much better than an equal double-B in slippery uphills cause of the weight transfer. In case of a B-double the weight transfer to the drive wheels is hardly 25%, they're even worse as the 40-44t semi on this vid.

[mannwhosoldtheworld]

@OttovonEarth Yes, but it seems that most on-highway freight haulers that run a three axle tractor set up usually only have 1 powered axle.

[OttovonEarth]

@mannwhosoldtheworld It's an economic question and I wonder how the hell they can afford to transport goods such modest capacity vehicles as the do in Middle Europe and in North America with some exceptions, even Russkies allow use modulars on their roads, but not the EU.

The price of Diesel varies in Finland from 1.30€/liter to 1.45€/l and the following year brings 15 cents more per liter. The same in US gallons/$ (1€=1.30$ at the moment) is 6.40$/gallon - 7.14$/ US gallon.

[mibars]

@mannwhosoldtheworld Heavier axle and increased fuel usage.

BTW: In cases like that rear axle should be lifted to ttransfer weight onto drive axle...

[mannwhosoldtheworld]

@mibars The extra weight of a drive axle as opposed to a dead axle seems hardly worth worrying about if you drive in winter climates. I don't believe there is significant fuel usage either, especially if you don't have many empty mile. The Tandem-Tandem set up just seems to make more sense than the Single-Tridem system used in a lot of Europe.

[mibars]

@mannwhosoldtheworld In most European countries single rear axles are used, so problem does not exist. Moreover having two drive axles you have three differentials to lock and usually only one is lockable, in single axle you lock your diff and have all drive wheels locked.

[pristinebob]

sorry drive you missed your booking time

[blobby1972]

bloody twin steers .