@d4rkst4r123 Don't worry at all. I know these guys personally, and they would never do such a thing. I give you my promise, and if anything like that ever did happen , (which it won't), I'll help you myself. I've just made note of your YouTube name, and hit me up on PYO to get me personally.
@SFLogicNinja ok thanks, i may try it out now. its just that in the past ive had a lot of problems with other corporations who engage in such practices. i feel better though ;).
Hey hey, can't sign up from a mac apparently. :( Safari and Chrome both bomb the site out. Chatted to tech support, they recommended another browser... what? IE? :P
I really like the idea of this site but there are many things that make me refuse to subscribe.
First you should add the possibility to pay without a creditcard as many people don't have one.
And I dont want to subscribe a whole year to something which I cant properly test before, so you also should add the possibility to subscribe for one month, 3 months etc., too ;)
@ventoux56 Would PayPal work? Also, there are other options besides the yearly payment happening. They are always listening to your feedback, so just let 'em know.
BUMMER!! You're gonna start charging!! Thanks Logic Ninja for all of the info you have already given away so freely. Those types of gifts are uncommon in this world. Unfortunately, I will refuse to pay $120.00 per year or even $108.00 per year. BTW, you're wrong. It's totally UNCOOL to get us hooked on your youtube vids and then expect us to jump over to another site and pay for them. That's like some Walmart Corporate bullshit tactic.
@WretchedExcess P.S. Would a WalMart exec have hair this insane? Well, I suppose maybe if they were a complete mastermind with plans of world domination. haha. HAHAHA. MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Just kidding. I have never had plans for world domination, (yes I have). Is that my outside voice? No, seriously. Ugh. Anyway, you should check out the other free stuff on the PYO site.
@SFLogicNinja ;) Thanks,SFLogicNinja. Sorry if I sounded bitter in my earlier comment. I've really gained a lot from your vids. For myself and for many many others, you have been more like a Logic Guru than a Ninja. I'm currently teaching a course in MIDI that is based in Logic. I also use Logic professionally for the creation of music and sound for live dramatic works. I run across evidence of the impact of your videos all the time in the work of my students and colleagues. Thanks.
@WretchedExcess No problem, ace. Thanks for the props, apology accepted, etc. Love to hear that you are a fellow instructor as well, and hope to hear something by ya someday. Keep in touch, and toss me an mp3!
Don't focus that the cost comes out to $10 a month if you're not going to offer a monthly rate. That's just plain marketing BS. Offer a monthly rate and those of us complaining that $120 is too steep will most likely come on board. Greed will get you nowhere.
Arst! The ambivalence of it all. In one way I agree w the sufferings as i too have awaited for the axiom vid. But more importantly David has taught me a lot over the years! I get it as well. Appreciate you dude and wish your success!!
$120/ year...or whatever it is with SFLN's discount code ($108? I don't remember) is simply far too much. I really appreciate the wealth of knowledge that has been bestowed upon us for free regarding Logic. I guess whatever I know now is what I'll know forever because that's about 4 times what I'm willing to pay.
Hey everyone! Just to reiterate: the code sfln2011 is a discount code for PYO. If you sign up, please use that code to get an additional discount. I'll check in with you later!
@pcFresh88 - we offer a free channel with teasers, tips, and a glimpse at what is happening - updated regularly. And that is the point of PYO - its not free, which makes us accountable. As I said to one user "it's like walking into the Apple store or a Ferrari dealership and complaining that it's cheaper to use a calculator or take the bus". Pros don't work for free - David has been spoiling you rotten - lolz!
Paul here from Pyramind Studios - For those of you a little distraught about the cost -its actually the best deal around,with nothing else like it on the web. The level of professionalism and inside industry info - at less than 10 bucks a month - is a steal. We are mulling a quarterly plan, but remember that PYO is pro community and is priced accordingly. My colleague David is worth it (much more actually), so consider joining us as we take it to the next level. See you online!
@PyraPaul I think you are missing the point m8. David's videos are incredible and yes he has spoiled us with a wealth of knowledge. I will most likely subscribe in the future to keep current with logic pro and other things that David is involved in. The big shocker at to me was that we have been hearing about this axiom pro video for quite awhile now here in David's YT channel and just kind of expected that it would come the same way, free. New stuff I can see paying for, this one? not so much
Hey everyone! Your feedback has been very helpful to me, and I am sending Pyramind all of the critiques and comments. The content on Pyramind is pretty mind-blowing, but I understand the need to taste-test. This may mean edited short firm vids that give you a good taste of what you are getting. For now, please peruse the site and thanks for the feedback!!
i don't mind paying. heck, the videos i've already watched are by themselves worth the $100+ asking price. i'm not trying to be cheap but i like to at least get a feel for what i'm getting into anytime i'm asked to cough up that kind of money.
i trust we'll continue to see the same quality from you david, so i'll probably pay up anyway. however, i think pyramind would build a much more loyal following if they offered some sort of trial period.
i love the ninja's videos, and you've always gone above and beyond the call providing FREE tips and advice. i really admire the way you handle your online personality.
I'm using Pyramind's site as a way to keep track of everyone. I really apprecaite the mostly good-natured comments here. I figured after 100 videos, I needed to change things up a bit. I also have plans to take everyone behind the curtain a bit into the lives of some dear friends of mine that I work with. All of the long form procedural videos will be with other providers, though. I'm listening, folks. I'll check in again after dinner. :-) *bows*
I think they are asking too much too soon, expecting people to cough up $120 in one hit.. they should offer a monthly subscription if they want significant subscriber takeup. I have tried to offer this advice to the admin, but they seem blinkered in their idea of hitting people with intimidating numbers.
The $10 a month is more than reasonable, it's just the initial annual payment that's required up front that poses the problem. Most of us are probably stretched financially.
120$!? Little big bit disappointed... Waiting so long for the Axiom-Video now, checking your channel nearly every day, I like your other Vids so much, they helped me so much (Thanks for that). And now BAAM! 120$! Sorry, too much for me! But wish you the Best... Bye ...will the rich be happy...
And the 64-bit for Hypercontrol doesn't work worth a damn. I guess we'll have to wait another year for M-audio to get it right. Worst support in the industry.
No doubt! $120? Can't just pay for the videos you want to see? Yearly? Can't just be monthly like MacProVideo? Lame, dude. Not all of us live in SF and can afford such things.
Now its time for the real pros to help us out ! i tell you all , if the other teachers are like David then you are in for a treat !!! so pay attention and you will really learn something !!!
Respond to this video... Ok so what can we (logic users ) expect from this ? i'm interested but , i'm wondering what more will you be showing us ? i don't want to pay $120.00 just to get new versions of videos you have already released . And hey i don't blame you for charging . you have helped out so much its only fair , and a fair price for a year ! Thanks Aaron
Well unfortunately I will not be able to see the new Axiom Pro video as it looks like I will have to pay for it. I understand that pyramind are a business, but being married, with other expenses, I will be unable to check it out. Thanks for the youtube videos and good luck with the business. Your videos have helped me as a high school music teacher with my students and I improve with logic. I was looking forward to the axiom pro video :(
@CleverDjembe I went to the website and the content does look amazing. That kind of inside knowledge is priceless. I just wish there was a monthly option. 120 for a website it a lot to put up at once. But ten bucks a month would be more cost efficient for struggling audio engineering students.
I'll be back to check in a little later. I'm producing a cool artist named Lila Rose, who I'm hoping will be making an appearance here if she's down... Nice to produce at the home studio lair! I'll see you peeps in a bit.
@spyriadon At this time they do not. It is a very good high level training program for those who are interested in being a true entrepreneur. Many of the trainees there have gone on to do great things, but a masters or doctorate is not what Pyramind offers at the moment.
@SFLogicNinja Thanks for the quick reply im studying music production and sound engineering in the UK at the moment and am wanting to move on to masters.
Hey all! So I'm also going to try and get permission from some of the folks I'm producing and composing for David Earl Production to give interviews and insight into the process of recording, production, sound design and life as artists and audio maniacs for YouTube as well. I'll be posting as soon as I get my head wrapped around it. I think it will add depth to the community that we've created here. Hope you enjoy the new hotness - *bows*
Thumbs up for the hair alone. Well done with all the success. I'm indebted to you for eternity. For starters, you will be receiving a special thanks credit on my forthcoming album because I couldn't have done it without you.
i want to sign up for the monthly one, but im scared that i wont be able to opt out of it if i want to cancel my subscription :/
d4rkst4r123 9 months ago
@d4rkst4r123 Don't worry at all. I know these guys personally, and they would never do such a thing. I give you my promise, and if anything like that ever did happen , (which it won't), I'll help you myself. I've just made note of your YouTube name, and hit me up on PYO to get me personally.
SFLogicNinja 9 months ago
@SFLogicNinja ok thanks, i may try it out now. its just that in the past ive had a lot of problems with other corporations who engage in such practices. i feel better though ;).
d4rkst4r123 9 months ago
Hey hey, can't sign up from a mac apparently. :( Safari and Chrome both bomb the site out. Chatted to tech support, they recommended another browser... what? IE? :P
robertpaulelliott 1 year ago
I really like the idea of this site but there are many things that make me refuse to subscribe.
First you should add the possibility to pay without a creditcard as many people don't have one.
And I dont want to subscribe a whole year to something which I cant properly test before, so you also should add the possibility to subscribe for one month, 3 months etc., too ;)
ventoux56 1 year ago 2
@ventoux56 Would PayPal work? Also, there are other options besides the yearly payment happening. They are always listening to your feedback, so just let 'em know.
SFLogicNinja 1 year ago
Axiom video is linked in the video description....
SFLogicNinja 1 year ago
Re: Axiom Pro Video (Abridged) - I just experienced unrequited video love...but thanks for all the outstanding Logic tuts.
Oikonomeo 1 year ago
BUMMER!! You're gonna start charging!! Thanks Logic Ninja for all of the info you have already given away so freely. Those types of gifts are uncommon in this world. Unfortunately, I will refuse to pay $120.00 per year or even $108.00 per year. BTW, you're wrong. It's totally UNCOOL to get us hooked on your youtube vids and then expect us to jump over to another site and pay for them. That's like some Walmart Corporate bullshit tactic.
WretchedExcess 1 year ago
@WretchedExcess Hey, there's a free Axiom Pro video up at Pyramind Online now if you wanna check it out. *bows*
SFLogicNinja 1 year ago
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benjisandk 1 year ago
@WretchedExcess P.S. Would a WalMart exec have hair this insane? Well, I suppose maybe if they were a complete mastermind with plans of world domination. haha. HAHAHA. MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Just kidding. I have never had plans for world domination, (yes I have). Is that my outside voice? No, seriously. Ugh. Anyway, you should check out the other free stuff on the PYO site.
SFLogicNinja 1 year ago
@SFLogicNinja ;) Thanks,SFLogicNinja. Sorry if I sounded bitter in my earlier comment. I've really gained a lot from your vids. For myself and for many many others, you have been more like a Logic Guru than a Ninja. I'm currently teaching a course in MIDI that is based in Logic. I also use Logic professionally for the creation of music and sound for live dramatic works. I run across evidence of the impact of your videos all the time in the work of my students and colleagues. Thanks.
WretchedExcess 1 year ago
@WretchedExcess No problem, ace. Thanks for the props, apology accepted, etc. Love to hear that you are a fellow instructor as well, and hope to hear something by ya someday. Keep in touch, and toss me an mp3!
SFLogicNinja 1 year ago
@SFLogicNinja will do. I've got music posted on my website if you want to check it out. the url is "chaoscillation[dot]com" Cheers!
WretchedExcess 1 year ago
I'm loving the Phil Spector look. Awesome!!
trackattik 1 year ago
@trackattik I had a haircut that day, and I have to admit... I kinda miss the super-crazy. Now it's just crazy.
SFLogicNinja 1 year ago
Don't focus that the cost comes out to $10 a month if you're not going to offer a monthly rate. That's just plain marketing BS. Offer a monthly rate and those of us complaining that $120 is too steep will most likely come on board. Greed will get you nowhere.
terrydrums 1 year ago
Arst! The ambivalence of it all. In one way I agree w the sufferings as i too have awaited for the axiom vid. But more importantly David has taught me a lot over the years! I get it as well. Appreciate you dude and wish your success!!
hokaone 1 year ago
@hokaone Hey, go check out the free axiom vid on Pyramind Online. Let me know if you have any trouble finding it.
SFLogicNinja 1 year ago
$120/ year...or whatever it is with SFLN's discount code ($108? I don't remember) is simply far too much. I really appreciate the wealth of knowledge that has been bestowed upon us for free regarding Logic. I guess whatever I know now is what I'll know forever because that's about 4 times what I'm willing to pay.
thecompletejake 1 year ago
Honestly, David's knowledge is worth the price to me. The axiom video alone would be worth 50 bucks to me. Plus, you get a lot more, it seems.
Str8Blast 1 year ago
Hey everyone! Just to reiterate: the code sfln2011 is a discount code for PYO. If you sign up, please use that code to get an additional discount. I'll check in with you later!
SFLogicNinja 1 year ago
M-Audio has released a new version of HyperControl for Logic which finally works with 64-bit!
gautsch 1 year ago
@pcFresh88 - we offer a free channel with teasers, tips, and a glimpse at what is happening - updated regularly. And that is the point of PYO - its not free, which makes us accountable. As I said to one user "it's like walking into the Apple store or a Ferrari dealership and complaining that it's cheaper to use a calculator or take the bus". Pros don't work for free - David has been spoiling you rotten - lolz!
PyraPaul 1 year ago
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PyraPaul 1 year ago
you guys should offer a trial period!
pcfresh88 1 year ago
$120 a year? out of my price range considering the wealth of free info on the web, too bad though really was looking forward to that axiom vid
pcfresh88 1 year ago 2
Paul here from Pyramind Studios - For those of you a little distraught about the cost -its actually the best deal around,with nothing else like it on the web. The level of professionalism and inside industry info - at less than 10 bucks a month - is a steal. We are mulling a quarterly plan, but remember that PYO is pro community and is priced accordingly. My colleague David is worth it (much more actually), so consider joining us as we take it to the next level. See you online!
PyraPaul 1 year ago
@PyraPaul I think you are missing the point m8. David's videos are incredible and yes he has spoiled us with a wealth of knowledge. I will most likely subscribe in the future to keep current with logic pro and other things that David is involved in. The big shocker at to me was that we have been hearing about this axiom pro video for quite awhile now here in David's YT channel and just kind of expected that it would come the same way, free. New stuff I can see paying for, this one? not so much
1967mdavis 1 year ago 3
I meant that to say short 'form'. Damn iPhone.
SFLogicNinja 1 year ago
Hey everyone! Your feedback has been very helpful to me, and I am sending Pyramind all of the critiques and comments. The content on Pyramind is pretty mind-blowing, but I understand the need to taste-test. This may mean edited short firm vids that give you a good taste of what you are getting. For now, please peruse the site and thanks for the feedback!!
SFLogicNinja 1 year ago
i don't mind paying. heck, the videos i've already watched are by themselves worth the $100+ asking price. i'm not trying to be cheap but i like to at least get a feel for what i'm getting into anytime i'm asked to cough up that kind of money.
i trust we'll continue to see the same quality from you david, so i'll probably pay up anyway. however, i think pyramind would build a much more loyal following if they offered some sort of trial period.
tbriley42 1 year ago
i love the ninja's videos, and you've always gone above and beyond the call providing FREE tips and advice. i really admire the way you handle your online personality.
but no trial period?
tbriley42 1 year ago
I'm using Pyramind's site as a way to keep track of everyone. I really apprecaite the mostly good-natured comments here. I figured after 100 videos, I needed to change things up a bit. I also have plans to take everyone behind the curtain a bit into the lives of some dear friends of mine that I work with. All of the long form procedural videos will be with other providers, though. I'm listening, folks. I'll check in again after dinner. :-) *bows*
SFLogicNinja 1 year ago
Thanks for all your tutorials!
DocTaTech 1 year ago
Axiom pro video - YAY
$120 (or $108 with discount code) to watch it - NAY
Shame you fail to mention that in the video. Sure, a pay/subscription service was kinda inevitable. But a 100 bucks is a bit much.
*Disappointed Bow*
liquidgroove 1 year ago 2
@liquidgroove
108 is an extrememly lucky number in Chinese culture. This is a special New Years rate.
Seriously though ...you've gotten free advice for years. Pay the man.
jfu222 1 year ago
Darn... To bad things had to go commercial!! I loved the past videos tho thanks a lot!
Fawl3y 1 year ago
I think they are asking too much too soon, expecting people to cough up $120 in one hit.. they should offer a monthly subscription if they want significant subscriber takeup. I have tried to offer this advice to the admin, but they seem blinkered in their idea of hitting people with intimidating numbers.
Sad.. this site could have been so good
chevytraveller 1 year ago
Novation automap has been 64-bit for a while. (Better controller) IMHO
FreeThought2007 1 year ago
Did u just wake up ??? Nice out of bed look :P
xRuFFZx 1 year ago
The $10 a month is more than reasonable, it's just the initial annual payment that's required up front that poses the problem. Most of us are probably stretched financially.
gurdjieff46 1 year ago
120$!? Little big bit disappointed... Waiting so long for the Axiom-Video now, checking your channel nearly every day, I like your other Vids so much, they helped me so much (Thanks for that). And now BAAM! 120$! Sorry, too much for me! But wish you the Best... Bye ...will the rich be happy...
:-(
billyrubin666 1 year ago
so the axiom video went from free to pricey?
jakedelorey 1 year ago 13
And the 64-bit for Hypercontrol doesn't work worth a damn. I guess we'll have to wait another year for M-audio to get it right. Worst support in the industry.
terrydrums 1 year ago
@terrydrums What do you expect?.. they are owned by Avid
chevytraveller 1 year ago
No doubt! $120? Can't just pay for the videos you want to see? Yearly? Can't just be monthly like MacProVideo? Lame, dude. Not all of us live in SF and can afford such things.
terrydrums 1 year ago
where do I enter that sfln2011 code??
Lennyrapid 1 year ago
Now its time for the real pros to help us out ! i tell you all , if the other teachers are like David then you are in for a treat !!! so pay attention and you will really learn something !!!
Flipjunkie1 1 year ago
@Flipjunkie1
David WAS a free teacher though.
zimonslot 1 year ago
@zimonslot True ! Maybe just stick with Davids past videos , unless you can afford it .Hey david , your not gonna take away your old videos are you ?
Flipjunkie1 1 year ago
Respond to this video... Ok so what can we (logic users ) expect from this ? i'm interested but , i'm wondering what more will you be showing us ? i don't want to pay $120.00 just to get new versions of videos you have already released . And hey i don't blame you for charging . you have helped out so much its only fair , and a fair price for a year ! Thanks Aaron
Flipjunkie1 1 year ago
So all that time waiting for the Axiom Pro video and it's behind a pay-wall? Lame.
Bluecoat93 1 year ago 26
@Bluecoat93 There's a free one on Pyramind Online. I think maybe I'll link it in another vid.
SFLogicNinja 1 year ago
Well unfortunately I will not be able to see the new Axiom Pro video as it looks like I will have to pay for it. I understand that pyramind are a business, but being married, with other expenses, I will be unable to check it out. Thanks for the youtube videos and good luck with the business. Your videos have helped me as a high school music teacher with my students and I improve with logic. I was looking forward to the axiom pro video :(
mrwood5y 1 year ago
You never care :(
RedOrangeSystem 1 year ago
btw, put the link in the description!
CleverDjembe 1 year ago
120$ a year! Damn.
IrregularStatements 1 year ago
@IrregularStatements
The price is right :)
CleverDjembe 1 year ago
@CleverDjembe I went to the website and the content does look amazing. That kind of inside knowledge is priceless. I just wish there was a monthly option. 120 for a website it a lot to put up at once. But ten bucks a month would be more cost efficient for struggling audio engineering students.
IrregularStatements 1 year ago
@IrregularStatements
I think they want commitment, they want people who are COMMITTED for a year. I like that.
CleverDjembe 1 year ago
Pyramind's looking into PayPal as we speak. Remember everyone: use the code. :-)
SFLogicNinja 1 year ago
I'll look into the Paypal possibilities! Contact matt at Pyramind about the books and things!
SFLogicNinja 1 year ago
Creditcard payment !!! That's a bummer, why is there no Paypal ?
RidvanDuzey 1 year ago
Man this is great !!! I'm gonna register now, but still I have a question... When is the Core book series gonna be out to buy ??
RidvanDuzey 1 year ago
And pyramind!
Zombiebrainstew 1 year ago
Awesome bro (the hair and the video, lol)
Zombiebrainstew 1 year ago
I'll be back to check in a little later. I'm producing a cool artist named Lila Rose, who I'm hoping will be making an appearance here if she's down... Nice to produce at the home studio lair! I'll see you peeps in a bit.
SFLogicNinja 1 year ago
Do pyramind offer a MA(masters) level qualification?
spyriadon 1 year ago
@spyriadon At this time they do not. It is a very good high level training program for those who are interested in being a true entrepreneur. Many of the trainees there have gone on to do great things, but a masters or doctorate is not what Pyramind offers at the moment.
SFLogicNinja 1 year ago
@SFLogicNinja Thanks for the quick reply im studying music production and sound engineering in the UK at the moment and am wanting to move on to masters.
spyriadon 1 year ago
@spyriadon I totally get it, and wish you the BEST! I totally commend you for your dedication.
SFLogicNinja 1 year ago
Hey all! So I'm also going to try and get permission from some of the folks I'm producing and composing for David Earl Production to give interviews and insight into the process of recording, production, sound design and life as artists and audio maniacs for YouTube as well. I'll be posting as soon as I get my head wrapped around it. I think it will add depth to the community that we've created here. Hope you enjoy the new hotness - *bows*
SFLogicNinja 1 year ago
Amazing dude! Thanks so much for the sharing of great knowledge!
LIANG14 1 year ago
@LIANG14 You are more than welcome.
SFLogicNinja 1 year ago
AWESUM! :D
Hardcorelander 1 year ago
@Hardcorelander The hair, or the video?
SFLogicNinja 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@SFLogicNinja Both ;)
Hardcorelander 1 year ago
Thumbs up for the hair alone. Well done with all the success. I'm indebted to you for eternity. For starters, you will be receiving a special thanks credit on my forthcoming album because I couldn't have done it without you.
strangewaysprods 1 year ago
@strangewaysprods That's completely badass. Thanks!
SFLogicNinja 1 year ago