G20 Meltdown - London Protest 1 April 2009 - Financial Fools Day

[0Maiky0]

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[TheBritishWatcher]

The police tactics were not to blame, it was those anarchists who wanted to cause trouble and anarchists at previous summits which led to such heavy policing of the event.

[124kirarox]

this is a joke!

it was for aprils fools day!

i dont get why people are saying that its stupid and childish

[cncxgrinder]

remember the poll tax riots unrest does make a difference although i do not agree with riots its an unfotunate by product of unfairness

[TheBritishWatcher]

The poll tax riots had a reason and a cause, and they were also by British people against the British governments action.

All the G8/G20 protests have none of those things. A bunch of different groups, from anarchists, environmental extremists and anti capitalists to Stop the war. They all want different things, and they are protesting against world government not the British one.

Also most of the trouble makers at these g8/20 protests aint even British, they are usually european extremists

[cncxgrinder]

well i dont dissagree with anything you have said. this is a worse situation in my mind. too many different problems. we will see what happens. i am getting a sense of the same unrest as when the poll tax riots happend. i hope it does not happen.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Nonsense, there is no major unrest in the United Kingdom. A couple of small groups walked out from power plants and all the anarchists gathered for the G20 but thats it. There is no public mood in support of disorder.

In the USA they have 10,000s of tea parties taking place, small protests to send a message but not even unrest there.

[cncxgrinder]

dont nonsense me well you believe what you want to believe . there is a smouldering sense of unrest on immigration, jobs ,unemployment, bankers wait and see get in the real world. i wasnt talking about the us so why mention it im intrested in the people of this country. you sound like a politition who has lost touch with the people

[TheBritishWatcher]

There is anger, i fully accept theres much anger on many of these issues, but its not anywhere near turning to unrest. And if it does, perhaps people better think how the police will respond hehehe ;)

[cncxgrinder]

not worthy of comment

[TheBritishWatcher]

Lmao, thanks for the comment. :)

[bstopard]

Horses were great if you were swinging a sword or mace...but as crowd control? Just shows that the Met has the same lack of respect for their horses as they had for the people.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Nonsense, the Horse is great for crowd control. Id rather see police cavalry on the streets than water cannon tanks and thats the only real alternative

There wasnt much space for good use of police horses in the London protests, the G8 one in Scotland in 2005 was very well done though.

[bstopard]

At this G20 protest the Met put their officers and horses in too many risky positions to contain a crowd that only became upset about being contained.

The police made presumptions based on previous protests and were unable to adapt to the festive and surprisingly peacful atmosphere this year.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Im sorry whilst most were peaceful there were a hardcore element that were hell bent on starting a riot, they go to every g20 / g8 meeting to protest. The police managed to contain people very well except for a few small incidents.

They did a great job in my mind, the City could of been burning down with some of the scum that attended that day

[TheBritishWatcher]

It is all very well now after the event looking back and thinking about how things were done, but we have to look at it from that morning. When 20 of the worlds most important leaders were in london, when 10,000s were expected to take to the streets with some anarchists wanting to start violence.

The police had a job to do, and they did it.

[bstopard]

Yes, everything was well contained. I was there as an observer, but was shocked to see that if I ever do want to protest something, it will be with no freedom of movement and under the threat of violence. I still have an injury from the day and I am a compliant police loving captitalist.

But the biggest casualty, besides one death, is the loss of our right to assemble freely. This seems like a huge turning point in our society.

[TheBritishWatcher]

People still have that right, there are protests all the time and large ones which are allowed to go ahead. But most protests are peaceful, the police knew that some at this event only had one goal and that was to cause trouble which is why they used the tactics then

Now i dont support police abuse, police shouldnt be going around hitting people with no reason, but the "kettling" tactic as its called seems like a reasonable and sensible one to me. Keeping people in a certain area to control em

[TheSpartacat]

your comment is contradictory.

you speak of rights but then applaud taking those rights away and treating ppl like cattle.

go read about the pre-emptive police moves in nottingham yesterday. look a little harder. then go watch minority report and ask why anyone has the right to decide what you intend to do.

the kettling tactic caused most of the problems on that day... but you weren't there were you?

[TheBritishWatcher]

You have a right to peaceful protest, but when we have 20 world leaders, sensitive areas of the city, a bunch of anarchists, tough methods must be used to keep people in line and the day passed off reasonably well, compare that to France where hotels were set on fire days later.

People were allowed to protest that day, nobody stoppped anyone from protesting, but the police acting for the saftey of public and the city have the right to decide where such protests can take place

[militaryrundemocracy]

sky news sux

[mjlynn]

I'm sorry but that's just pathetic that some of the workers inside the banks were waving money outside their windows. That just shows no remorse and is childish. That kind of attitude is why the people are protesting in the first place, a completely obscene disregard for the circumstances so many people are struggling with right now.

[bobzilla211]

RBS was left unboarded on purpose. the police were a few metres away but didn't intervene. also the protestors were channeled down into threadneedle street. this was most likely done to invalidate the protests by being able to say 'look they trashed a bank'.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Im sorry but the scum responsible for smashing that bank only have themselves to blame for behaving like a bunch of wild animals.

Thankfully many who did that have been arrested and they will be punished, hopefully the courts will throw the book at them for their disgusting violence. :)

It really is pathetic how some of u people try to defend such violence by scum.

[cncxgrinder]

i guess they feel they have no other way to express themselfs as the government and the law are not bringing the greedy immoral bankers to account

[TheBritishWatcher]

lol well expressing themselves gained nothing, and they knew that would be the case so why did they bother?

I can understand a protest like the million strong anti war march, that could of sent a stron signal to the government not to attack iraq but it failed. If that failed ofcourse this would make no difference.

[sergiomontes2012]

After watching it seems obvious that many people could argue that police condoned the RBS violence by staying few metres away without intervening, after channeling protesters down into threadneedle street. It can be argued that it was in the interest of the Police to provoke this kind of violence as an excuse to invalidate the protests by being able to say 'look they trashed a bank'. No violence is justifiable. What they did was extremely horrible.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Im sorry but the police not acting or being there is no excuse for violence or breaking the law. Are u the type of person that justifies rape because a woman is drunk? Its the same sort of silly argument.

[jackooboy1]

I don't understand why the lady that is there for "solidarity" is wearing a mask. ...

[michalchik]

Because the cops are photographing peaceful protesters and putting them in terrorist databases so they can be rounded up before the next protest. .

[spoonspoiler]

Nowt new there, the 5 0 got my fizzog back in 1995. After a small (peaceful) demo in Congleton they made us leave in single file and turn to face their cameras. Those who refused were threatened with arrest.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Sounds like they did a good job too

[TheBritishWatcher]

Sorry but if they have nothing to hide they shouldnt hide their face, they should know its going to make them more of a concern to the police.

[michalchik]

You honestly always trust everyone in the government to do the right thing? After seeing what happened in Germany and Russia I am amazed anyone can still think like you. Try reading a little George Orwell.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Lol in this case the British police did the right thing. Sorry

[michalchik]

And you are sure of this based on what evidence? What the mainstream media tells you?

[spoonspoiler]

Who me?

[michalchik]

Nope, BritishWatcher.

[TheBritishWatcher]

I have no idea what the political literature was they took, however its not like the went in took some documents and left.. they found replica firearms and the people were arrested.

These are the extremists that the police have to crack down on and might of caused huge trouble at the g20 protests if they had been able to attend

[spoonspoiler]

Like I said in my previous post they were arrested for drug offences.

If they had been in possesion of firearms surely the arrests would have been for that?

[TheBritishWatcher]

Well i dont know the details, i did a google search and found a BBC report saying theyd been arrested under the terrorism act after police seized replica firearms and fireworks.

[michalchik]

replica firearms and fireworks? What does that have to do with terrorism?

[TheBritishWatcher]

lol well they were held under the terrorism act and rightly so if the police thought they may pose a threat. But the point is it wasnt just drugs related

[alexdouse2]

the cops are pushing people not the other way around

[AbdalJabbaar]

The evil effects of an INTEREST based money system. How many "religious" persons stand by and look down with "religious" disapproval, at the righteous anger manifesting before their eyes? Anger at the lies of the MEDIA and the MURDERERS that THEY protect!

[zuludelta1]

POLICE 1

GREAT UNWASHED 0

[ukbarney1]

wanka

[zuludelta1]

soap dodger

[XtremePacifist]

Take the power back.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Violence towards British police will not be tolerated, those responsible will be hunted down and prosecuted. I think we need to deport all of these anarachists to a little island somewhere so they can live their life the way they want without bothering the majority of the public who hate their guts.

Good job police

[aThatsEntertainment]

Britain is that little island

[TheBritishWatcher]

hehhe lol, a smaller island than Britain.. Im sure theres one in the atlantic somewhere. I know, send the anti capitalists to cuba, the enviornmentalists to antartica and the anarchists to Afghanistan.

If they hate the west they should get the hell out of the west. Damn thugs

[gaianbudo]

The west is ours! We aren't going anywhere and we're taking our planet back. The secret masters and parasites that have usurped our land through mind control will be rooted out. If you are such a loyal house slave you can accompany Them to Antartica.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Lmao u and ur little friends can do nothing. A few riots every summit, couple of people get hurt and its all over. Makes no change to the real world, u are just a bunch of thugs.

Sorry but we need order in this world and the police enforce it. :)

[michalchik]

You would have made a good Nazi/Soviet/Maoist and a lousy American.

Sometimes we need change more than we need order.

[spoonspoiler]

If people in the past had your attitude we'd have very few rights now.

In the UK just about every right we have (including the right to vote) has been fought for.

I suppose you'd be calling the suffragette movement (just an example) 'a bunch of thugs' if you were around in those days.

[TheBritishWatcher]

What right are u fighting for? We are not talking about the past when there were clearly defined things for people to fight for like the right to vote.

What is it you people want, its all just against things.

[spoonspoiler]

The rights that we fought hard for are being corroded everyday. It's not just rights either, the UK used to have a National Health service that was the envy of the world. Now it's being destroyed via privatisation through the back door.

The recent banking bail outs (1.2 trillion in total in the UK) could have paid for 4000 top spec hospitals. How come we are constantly told that there is no new money for the NHS but suddenly tax payers money is used to prop up the banking system?

[TheBritishWatcher]

Im sorry, the health service today provides more services than it has done at any point in history. Privatisation is no reason for such actions, the core principles of the NHS remain the same.

Banks are a core part of our countries economies, if we simply allowed all our banks, insurance companies, building societies to fall it would have huge implications for every one of us.

Also do not forget the majority of the money the tax payer is getting, will be returned.

[spoonspoiler]

That simply isn't true, there is absolutely no evidence that the money that has gone into the banking system will ever be seen again.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Theres no evidence that we wont see the money come back when those banks turn over profits and we sell our stakes in them.

Also dont forget many peoples pensions are tied to the stock market, so its in our long term interest to see the market do well.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Moaning about a bank bail out and privatisation of the NHS is hardly on the same scale as the suffragette movement .

This is not France, we do not protest and riot every couple of weeks because we want change and revolution.

[spoonspoiler]

The UK has a huge heritage of social protest probably more so than France.

And this isn't a case of moaning about a bank bail out, it is much more than that. You may be happy to write an open cheque to organisations that have no interests in human lives but many are not.

[TheBritishWatcher]

lol well the protests were tiny, so the majority obviously dont feel as strongly about such things as u do. protests solve nothing, 1 million protested in London against the Iraq war, it still happened.

[spoonspoiler]

One of the reasons that so few turned up was that the media built up the idea of it being violent. Didn't you think it was a bit odd that a branch of RBS wasn't boarded up and when things turned ugly there were more photographers there than demonstrators?

If 1 million people didn't demonstrate against Iraq to show popular opposition to the Governments actions you wouldn't be able to quote the figure and it would look as though the public consented to the governments actions.

[TheBritishWatcher]

lol but the point is those protests made no difference. U seriously think the authorities didnt board up that RBS branch so as to provoke the protestors to use violence?

[spoonspoiler]

Of course not. That's not my point, the point that I was making that throughout the day there were almost as many people from the media as there were protestors.

I still say that the anti war demo did make a difference. If only 10,000 people turned up to show their opposition to the war then it would look as though the government had a mandate to carry out the war with the publics backing.

[TheBritishWatcher]

The polls said the people were split, labour was split the million people marching and especially all the silly little protests since have made no difference at all.

The worlds media was there watching the protests, its a tribute to our great police force more nutters didnt turn up to cause trouble. Many stayed in France and Germany to cause trouble there where they can get away wth it.

This country believes in law and order and the violent protesters failed here.

[spoonspoiler]

Nice of you to decide that I'm a violent protester (even though I have said in previous posts that I am not). I suppose you know best.

What did you make of the arrests in the house in Plymouth where the police told the press that they had removed literature relating to a political ideology?

Actually what do you believe in, other than posting comments such as that above?

I'm not your enemy, just trying to have a debate with you. Life isn't always black and white you know.

[TheBritishWatcher]

The problem is there were violent protestors there so ofcourse the police have to contain entire areas and use force sadly even if some innocent protesters get caught up in it.

Removal of extremist political ideology is ok with me. I have a problem with all extremism, be it radical islam, the far right BNP, and liberal loons.. Climate change nuts, anti capitalists nuts and ofcourse anarchists.

[spoonspoiler]

Whether you agree or disagree with other peoples political ideas is up to you.

Surely though you can't condone the police removing political literature from peoples homes? I just had a quick look at your page and you say that you are a strong believer in the United Kingdom. Would you really say that the police behaving in such a way is what the UK stands for?

[TheBritishWatcher]

It depends on what political literature they removed?

[spoonspoiler]

I'm not sure I agree with you. From your list below I probably fit into the 'liberal loon' category (lol) but I wouldn't want to live in a world where the police were knocking doors down and removing copies of Mein Kampf or even worse.

I like the idea that in the UK the idea that 'I hate what you say but I'd fight to the death to let you say it' still holds strong.

[TheBritishWatcher]

I dislike those people but ofcourse people have a right to hold such views its their actions that matter. For example, i do not think it is acceptable for a bunch of environmentalists to break into an airport and cause delays which cost companies and ordinary people money and time.

[TheBritishWatcher]

I did a quick google search, u are talking about the arrests earlier this week.. BBC.

"Police have arrested five people in Plymouth under the terrorism act after seizing replica guns and fireworks. ". Im sorry but ofcourse they should remove documents which may explain peoples motives in such cases.

[spoonspoiler]

It turned out that they had flares, but why say to the press that they removed political literature?

[TheBritishWatcher]

Politival literature to give a hint to their motives, they had to make clear it wasnt religiously motivated. Its standard for police to say they removed computers, documents etc anyway

[spoonspoiler]

They were actually arrested on drug offences it just seemed to me that they were trying to portray the demonstrators in the same light as terrorists and cause a moral panic. Anarchists have been going on demonstrations and causing trouble for as long as I've been attending them.

The police were getting the media into a frenzy for months with their talk of a 'summer of rage.'

[TheBritishWatcher]

Im sorry but the police had a duty to prepare people and take the threat seriously. At every G8 / 20 meeting there is violence. This meeting was deciding things about the worlds economic structure, there was a potential for alot of trouble.

The police did an amazing job to limit it to a few damages windows at one bank. Sorry but compare our policing to any of the other G8 / G20 meetings there have been far more chaos. The only reason that didnt happen here is because our police skill

[spoonspoiler]

Again I have to disagree with you there. There was far greater trouble in Manchester when half a million Rangers fans (who had been posting here for months prior that they'd be trashing the city) caused havoc.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Apprently there were arrests for drug offenses at the same property but others were held under the terrorism act. Im against all violence and support the police taking action to try and prevent such things. They should of taken the threats of a few to cause trouble more seriously in the manchester cases.

Ofcourse there were about 100,000 rangers fans flooding manchester, i dont think the protestors even managed that number and it was less likely to turn violent.,

[TheBritishWatcher]

You seem to ignore the huge risk there was to the city these past few days. We have had the worlds leaders in our country and it is our duty to ensure they are protected at all costs. Those rioters and protesters in general would of loved to of got close to those leaders.. the police there for were deployed in huge numbers to ensure the saftey of the public, the world leaders and our capital city.

[spoonspoiler]

The G20 summit wasn't in the centre of London, it was in a rather grubby conference centre in Docklands

[TheBritishWatcher]

The world leaders stayed in locations all around London and we are not talking about a large area. Sorry but the police were on high alert, it will be the same during the London olympics.. so if u dont like police tactics make sure u dont protest then

[spoonspoiler]

I really can't imagine London being patrolled by riot police during the entirity of the olympics!

If they do lets hope no tourists fancy sitting down for a nice picnic!

[TheBritishWatcher]

Lol, if there are protests being held at the olympics they will be policed in a similar way and kept well back from any of the olympic events.

[spoonspoiler]

Ha ha, you may well be giving people ideas for future protests there!

[TheBritishWatcher]

London and the UKs moment on the world stage? ofcourse there will be nutters who want to protest and because we are a democracy we will allow those protests to be held, but they must be kept well back from olympic event. Law and order must be maintained.

Thankfully we will be out of Iraq totally by then and hopefully afghanistan will be dying down, so the anti war nuts wont be too problematic.

[spoonspoiler]

Not sure about that, Broon sent over another 1000 troops today

[TheBritishWatcher]

we got over 3 years to bring about some progress there, with the 10000s more american troops going in things will die down a bit by then.

As for my name, Im British and watch things ;)

[spoonspoiler]

It's very mountainous terrain over there with a dispersed and diverse enemy and call me an anti war nutter if you will but the only reason we are over there is so that Bush could be seen to be doing something about the twin tower attacks.

If the only way we can win is by having an occupying army then surely it will be a very long term plan?

[TheBritishWatcher]

We win by developing the Afghan army and police to such a level that it can maintain order and control of the country. 67 British citizens died in the 9/11 attacks, greater effort from the start should of been made to hunt down all those responsible.

We need serious action on Pakistan clearly as well

[TheBritishWatcher]

The same happened in Iraq, the Iraqi army is now able to take responsibility for their nation so British troops are now able to withdraw,.

[spoonspoiler]

I think we'll have to let time tell it's story in Iraq (remember that it was originally created as a nation by the west after the first world war.)

On a more general note, what would you suggest that the 'nutters' as you call them do rather than hold protests? (be sensible now...don't say fuck off!)

[TheBritishWatcher]

peaceful protests are ok but those wanting to protest must obey the police and follow orders. Those peaceful protestors should seek to remove violent ones from their ranks.

[TheBritishWatcher]

All major or large protests should only be done after the police are informed and given full details, some of the trouble makers over the past few days were unwilling to do that.

[spoonspoiler]

If the protests are peaceful why should police consent be important?

[TheBritishWatcher]

large scale protests risk causing disruption and if police arnt informed before how do they know its going to be peaceful and responsibly led?

[spoonspoiler]

What is your opinion of police who want to start violence on demonstrations? Even as a hypothetical question.

I remember going on a demo in the 1995 and as our coach was arriving the police were banging there truncheons on there sheilds

[TheBritishWatcher]

Evidence of police actions at protests is recorded not only by protesters but by the police themselves. Those that cross the line should of course be investigated and if they clearly can not control themselves in such situations and should not be deployed again.

Im sure on occasion certain policeman do cross the line, but in the vast majority are simply doing their jobs and keeping the Queens peace.

[spoonspoiler]

You should attend a big demo...if only for research purposes. I think that the actions of the police may surprise you somewhat.

[TheBritishWatcher]

I have no interest in attending a demonstration. Its shocking to some people that riot police use force i know but law and order must be maintained and thats the duty of the police.

[spoonspoiler]

But surely police banging their truncheons on their shields en masse before a demonstration has even started has nothing to do with law and order. Surely it's them saying that they're up for 'a bit of a ruck.'

Like I say just follow a big march just for research purposes.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Its no excuse for disobey police orders and failing to comply with instructions like moving back. the main day of protests in the morning i saw very light policing. I was screaming at my tv screen when the police were just standing there taking the abuse and violence, there should of been alot of arrests there and then.

Finally the riot police arrived on scene to restore order, but the police were not responsible for the violence that day, a bunch of trouble makers wanted to start a fight.

[spoonspoiler]

Like I say if you want to a true picture of how police operate on a big demonstration just turn up yourself. You don't even have to be part of the main march, just walk along beside it or stay some distance away. Then you can make your own mind up.

You still haven't said what you think our national identity is. I don't mean to pressure you on this, I'm just interested.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Sorry but when u compare our police tactics in such protests they are clearly better than some of our european friends. Tell me would u of prefered to be hit with water cannon, rubber bullets or tear gas instead of being held in certain areas by police and on occasion being pushed back with force.

[spoonspoiler]

Water cannons and tear gas were used on demonstrations this week for the first time.

Also I was on a (peaceful) demonstration against the BNP in 1994. The march came up against a wall of horse and riot police. From behind police vans were pushing us forwards. There was absolute carnage. I remember it even made the front page of the NME/melody maker at the time.

I do agree that other countries are worse but surely that's no excuse?

[TheBritishWatcher]

I didnt know our police used either in this weeks protests, but they certainly do not resort to them very often like european countries do. Ofcourse its no excuse however it simply shows we have a better policy, a more reasonable policy in my view and clearly a more effective one because apart from a couple of small incidents order was maintained.

ANyway im off to bed now, atleast we have one thing in common... our hate for the disgusting BNP ;)

[spoonspoiler]

Excellent, a great point to end the discussion!

[TheBritishWatcher]

Night =)

[TheBritishWatcher]

You seem to view the last few days actions by the police as unfair and unjust, well im sorry but i see it as a great success and a job very well done.

Its a bit of a shame our streets are allowed to get so out of control on a saturday night, clearly more police on the streets is needed.

[TheBritishWatcher]

Are you proud to be British?

[spoonspoiler]

I don't have much experience. I was born here and I've lived hers all my life. My family is from Ireland. Where I live (near Manchester) there is no sense of community whatsover, be it national or local. Everyone seems to hate each other and wants to live as an individual

[TheBritishWatcher]

well before u asked what do i believe in, one thing is British patriotism.. We should all take pride in our nation and identity, something that has declined and like u say in some places is now non existent.

[spoonspoiler]

What is our national identity in your opinion?

[TheBritishWatcher]

Do u have a British passport? If u do then u should be proud to be British and take pride in our nation.

[spoonspoiler]

Language could be a start, we have a great tradition of literature and prose. You could start using decent grammar and spelling! lol

[TheBritishWatcher]

What matters is people understand the sentence, exact grammar and spelling is not important on youtube.

[spoonspoiler]

I'm sorry, the lol at the end of my last post was me saying that I was yanking your chain! (although I do think that text messaging and web posts are degrading one of the most sophisticated languages the world has seen)

What is your idea of our national identity by the way?

[TheBritishWatcher]

I agree about the text messaging causing problems, i hate it when people just have messages with "I C U R" etc, although i do use "u" quite a bit instead of you.

On our national identity, theres no single identity which is just sterotyping but ofcourse there should be shared values, pride in our history and the fact we live in such a great country today.

[spoonspoiler]

Thanks for replying and apologies for my previous comment hassling you for a reply...I think I was typing as you were!

I do think there are certain aspects of British history that are great. Literature as I have mentioned previously. Scientific endeavour, beer!

However there are are other aspects that I am not proud of - slavery, the awful lives that were lived by British people during the industrial revolution.

To say that I have to be proud of Britain because of my passport is a bit odd

[TheBritishWatcher]

I mentoned the passport because i wasnt sure if u were a british citizen, as u mentioned ur parents were Irish. Ofcourse there are many things in our history we should be ashamed of and never forget but we have done the right thing in the end. yes we engaged in slavery but we were the leading power that helped outlaw it. Yes our empire took other peoples lands, but in the end we have created more democratic countries than any of nation in history. Science / tech is all pretty positive too

[spoonspoiler]

In my post scientific endevour was one of my positives.

The town that I live in (just outside Manchester) used to be an old mill and mining town. The working people used to live such horrendous lives that the life expectancy for a man was 33 years in 1892.

What do you have pride in Britain in contempary times?

[TheBritishWatcher]

We have so much to be proud of today and not just for our past. Part of it is how far we have come on things like human rights, tolerance, the welfare state, our contributions to helping others overseas, be it through military force or aid.

The United Kingdom is the 6th largest economy in the world, we are a member of the UN security Council, an important member of the EU, a leading member of NATO, We have helped shape this world, we have so much to be proud of but sadly too many forget.

[TheSpartacat]

you have so much to be ashamed of too, but sadly too many forget.

You're proud of haping the world but haven't you noticed the world sucks?

i'm not religious but i do agree, pride cometh before a fall.

[spoonspoiler]

By the way, why do you call yourself TheBritishWatcher?

[TheBritishWatcher]

Greater damage was caused in the manchester riot but thats because there were limited police to control the situation. The police in london have had huge numbers and been able to totally conrol the situation.

Ofcourse it upsets some of the protestors, but u were allowed to voice ur opinions, u had a fun day out now its over.

[spoonspoiler]

What happened in Manchester happened other three days, surely the police weren't caught by surprise on the day of the final when everything went really bad?

I myself was called a 'feinien bastard' whilst walking home from work the day before the final and had several cans thrown at me...I was just walking past so I presume it was because I had a ginger beard.

[TheBritishWatcher]

sorry but the policing for the manchester event is tiny compared to the efforts that had to be put in to handle this g20 summit and its a very different situation.

[darkmaster388]

They should just attack the protesters with batons....

[matahaari]

Look forward to your video. In the US they showed violent protestors, but it seemed there were more bystanders with cameras than protestors. The media here wont report anything unless its sensational, involves a celebrity scandal or causes controversy (unless its really important...the media doesnt report anything really important).

[TexanCyclist]

Told from the banksters point of view w/the news casters caveat of "If it bleeds, it lead."

"Property was destroyed!" they cry. While the lives "they've" destroyed is a by the bye. Mearly business as usual.

90% peaceful? More like 99% & of the 1%, 1/2 are likely paid agents.

Cops claim success as they shut down movement which creates a success for the demonstrators as they shut down the city!

[TheSpartacat]

I'm alive!!!!

I didn't get arrested.

It was all cool!!!

Will upload one more tonight i think and save the rest (some speakers from the G20 Alternative Summit at the university of East London) ....til tomorrow- Takes an age to upload

[scoular]

i dont agree with what the banks have done, but all you hippies that are just up for a wee riot and dont really care about the cause get a grip. If you want an exciting buzz like that come for a night out in glasgow - its much more fun and you dont have to hide your spotty greenpeace faces.

[scoular]

fuck the pooooolice

[onlywhenprovoked]

BURN THE FUCKER DOWN.

no, no no, i mean keep it peaceful, don't give those pigs the opportunity to rough you up and get away with it.

oh screw it, who am i kidding-

BURN THE FUCKER DOWN.

[Plutonwolf]

Maybe one of these days, the couch locked Americans will get the hell up off their arses and do the same......naaaaah, not a chance. They may get a police record or a black mark on their credit rating...GASP!

I am becoming so disappointed and embarrassed by my fellow herdmates.

[insertthissideup]

FROM CANADA - Thank you for sharing, TV won't cover indept news, I m glad your OK to...so worried about all of you. can't wait to see your peaceful coverage. take care of each other.

[advil0069]

A+++++ for the chap who hit that nazi pig on the head.

DO IT AGAIN ! DO IT AGAIN !

so called anarchist = provocuteer police

[advil0069]

yay for the protesters!

bout time

fight facism