Biblical Insights (Part 6) - Exodus 22:19

[MoveOrder]

3 people who have had sex with an animal or what?

[pochopaz7381]

So we must all be put to death?

[internetUtuber]

This one is funny; all the other ones misrepresent God and His word.

[curlew0609]

Weird. Why would anyone have even thought of making a prohibition against it unless........I mean, all those all those cold nights out watching the flocks under the moonlight.....

[ChipArgyle]

But was the animal asking for it? I've seen a picture of a sheep in high heels and a miniskirt.

[MultiPaulinator]

This is why Iagree with the Republican's hatred towards all ethics dictated by the Bible. Like Santorum said, if gays could get married then obviously not long after that men could marry dogs. That means that if I married my sister's poodle Xander, we can legally file joint taxes, but I love My poodle Penny and that marriage would be illegal for its heterosexuality. This is why I oppose gay marriage and respect the Republicans. It would stigmatize mine and Penny's heterosexual relationship.

[BobbieJamesTuOl]

@MultiPaulinator Why don't we allow gay marriage and worry about your dog when or if that time comes. 

[MultiPaulinator]

@BobbieJamesTuOl That question didn't make sense. Please clarify.

[BobbieJamesTuOl]

@MultiPaulinator You are using the "fear tactic" and the "what if" tactic. In case you didn't notice, Ellen & Portia are married, & no dogs are getting married.  We are sensible humans & cannot speak for a dog's consent, so we will not make rules about marriage to a dog. We're talking about humans & equal rights; we know the science; homosexuality is not chosen; we know epigenetics; it's beneficial. For you to be against it shows a hidden prejudice & a willingness to deny others many rights.

[MultiPaulinator]

@BobbieJamesTuOl LOL Try googling "Define: Poe's Law"

I was referring to the Republicans' hypocrisies when I said, "This is why Iagree(sic - my bad) with the Republican's hatred towards all ethics dictated by the Bible". Calm down, buddy.

[henkjansmazaag]

does putting your hand up a cows ass count as sex? in that case we should start killing all the vets :P exodus 22:29 would be a pritty fun one, if it wasn't so fiendishly disturbing and just so bloodthursty

[henkjansmazaag]

@henkjansmazaag i might be mistaking, but in the way it is written together with exodus 22:30 it seems it is asking for the offering of the firstborn sons, i do not know if this is the case, someone would have to look it up in the original hebrew, the difference in the original hebrew in shall give is תִּתְּנֹו־ andתִּתֶּן־

[JamesThWilliams]

Damn good thing they didn't follow these rules in Scotland.

[Martymer81]

Oh, and do Leviticus 20:17 (KJV)... If you're gonna fuck your sister, keep your socks on. It's only a sin if she sees you naked. Don't bother with the NIV; it actually makes that verse make sense.

[Martymer81]

LOL! Best one yet :)

[DanielBlueFist]

Hey chattiest, why didn t you make a video about the whole october end of the world thing?

[SEThatered]

How come our former religion teacher (also a priest) is still alive and kicking after being caught red boner'd at the local farm with sheep???

And after that he switched to little boys, but all the church has done, is moved him to other location. Strangely he accused those boys he raped in being gay and seducing him. Were those sheep "prostitutes and seducing" too???

[bassmanco]

Love this direction dude.

[jonbob0008]

Did the Hebrews forget that in their own creation story, God offer Adam all the different animals of the world so he could choose his own mate? Why was beastiality okay then and not during the time of Moses?

[Shift4chizzle]

isnt exodus an operation map in bf3

[partypagan]

Come on, you can say it :-D. Don't fuck with the bitches.

[Yahweigh]

2Samuel 12:15-18

[mrandrias]

matthew 5:29-30

[jimthepleb]

cor love a duck, that's hardly fair on the welsh and the kiwis now is it?

[pilgrimpater]

@jimthepleb That's a bit harsh on the WElsh. Mind you, the other day, i asked my Welsh mate how many lovers he had in the past. He started counting and then fell asleep.

[420messenger]

yeah, better than dying from aids... not to mention the cruelty...

[setojurai]

Love your expression there as you try to figure out just how to say it XD

[RationalRat]

This one I really don't see a problem with as the word in Hebrew used for animals would not have included humans. (Yes, I know this is because they didn't understand biology.) Whether it should deserve the death penalty is another issue, but certainly a restriction against bestiality isn't nearly as absurd as the other verses in this series.

[chattiestspike2]

@RationalRat I had a feeling this one would get slightly more objections lol. Yeah I see what you mean... but when you think about it, the fact that this isn't nearly as absurd as the rest of the bible verses.. that says a lot doesn't it lol

[kitrana]

yeah what do you say to that

[awreslr2]

Hard to say anything about that one! But you did it well ! Just more crazy stuff from 3000 years ago.

[Blackmark52]

@awreslr2 "Just more crazy stuff from 3000 years ago" ??

Perhaps you should read my previous posts. And apparently there was a person arrested in Ohio just this year for having regular sex with his dog even though that state has no laws specifically banning it.

Maybe you should check your state laws: in some states it's a misdemeanour, in some it's a felony. Ignorance of the law is not a viable defense ;)

[RhayvenBlood]

@Blackmark52

In West Virginia, its legal. So long as the animal weighs less than 40 lbs.

And people wonder why EVERYONE bashes WVA O.o

[awreslr2]

@Blackmark52 Cool your jets, man. I was just talking about the ancient chilling command of death for someone who has kind of kinky sex.

[Blackmark52]

@awreslr2 Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of ;) eh.

But really, the video does attempt to make fun of the idea that the authors of the bible needed to write down this particular prohibition than it does on the penalty for it. My comments are just interesting facts that Chattestspike2 seems oblivious to. It is more interesting that this is still a topic for the courts than that it was frowned upon four thousand years ago.

[deokuso]

Proverbs 27:14: "If a person loudly blesses his neighbor early in the morning, it will be taken as a curse."

[ronnystoehr]

@deokuso Come on, you're making this up, right? RIGHT? [checks online] Holy crap! Literally... ;)

[Blackmark52]

This prohibition is not as ludicrous as it may seem. People still produce bestiality porno flicks.

[8NCLI8]

@Blackmark52: Legal in Denmark. :)

[Blackmark52]

@8NCLI8 A bit of research shows that laws regarding bestiality are varied. I am surprised that Denmark actually had a vote on it as recently as 2006. And France just made it illegal in 2004: thankfully they didn't put the laws back to how they were prior to 1791 when bestiality was punishable by death for both the human and the animal. Can you imagine a judge sentencing an animal to death for having sex with a human!?

[PosiMotto]

Hmm... this should have ended in speciocide! Why didn't they obey their bible??

[tipoomaster]

How did VenomFangX come about then?

[chattiestspike2]

@tipoomaster looks like someone sinned

[SacrilegeWithASmile]

Impossible! Nephilimfree is still alive and kickin'!

[chattiestspike2]

@SacrilegeWithASmile They just haven't caught him yet. He's using his escorts as a shield

[MagMag96]

Tough one, since we're all animals...

[supermanlypunch]

@MagMag96 We're also all cousins, But I don't think the Bible says anything about cousins.

[SadeofDarkness]

@MagMag96 we're all animals, but assuming that its referring to sex with other species, I think most of us agree that's pretty screwed up. You have to remember that most religions have this idea that we are separate from the animals.

[MagMag96]

@SadeofDarkness I know, sex with other species is sick... But obviously, incest, rape and childabuse, that's not so bad, according to the bible

[SadeofDarkness]

@MagMag96

it's funny because its true

[internetUtuber]

@MagMag96 We are different from animals, and your other sacred cow (evolution) is wrong too, assuming you believe that, and the fact that you embrace animalisic attitude says you probably do. Humans are noble, but you can choose to act like an animal.

[chattiestspike2]

@internetUtuber You haven't got the faintest idea what you're talking about. There's so much wrong with that comment from what it directly says, to what it implies- I just don't even know where to start.

[internetUtuber]

@chattiestspike2 Well give it a shot; what's your thoughts on my comment, what's wrong with it?

[MagMag96]

@internetUtuber You are such a fool, thinking you are so much better than any other species here on earth... Saying evolution is wrong is just utter ignorance. You should just crawl back to your cave of fairytales and imaginary friends...

[internetUtuber]

@MagMag96 So you think all species are created equal?

[MagMag96]

@internetUtuber Ehh, i dont think species, or any animals are created, in the same way as you may do. I dont think all life are of equal value, because caring for all the animals, fungi and bacteria that dies every day would be a lot to care for. I know that species on earth evolved from simpler lifeforms, because it is provable, observable science ;)

[internetUtuber]

@MagMag96 Well obviously I hold a different belief. Another view is Intelligent Design, which I argue is observable science, like you can tell that DNA is a blueprint, and the chances of DNA structures of different species all being a certain way is beyond chance, at-least statistically. The theory of Evolution has never been proven, and the evidence is not there (insufficient), and people have crafted fake skeletons to try to prove it (China factories), and that's deception. Has God ever been?

[MagMag96]

@internetUtuber "Never been proven" ??? "insufficient"??? Evolution is the scientific theory with the most evidence to back it up, even more than say, the theory of gravity, or germ theory... You cant craft a perfect fossilised skeleton, that's just not a very easy thing to do. And when it comes to the evidence for evolution, i could present to you the most basic of evidence for evolution, but i've learnt from experience that showing evidence to a creationist is futile.

[1n354a]

@internetUtuber the theory of gravity has never been proven, neither has the germ theory of disease or the theory of relativity or any other theory in the realm of science. A theory is nothing more than the best explanation for an observable phenomenon using all currently available evidence. In other words, evolutionary theory is our explanation of how life evolves. ID is not a scientific field of study and offers no explanations for anything; it is creationism.

[internetUtuber]

@1n354a If you haven't figured out that gravity is a law yet, than you can't trust your own senses, and how can you trust your own conclusions, if you can't trust your senses telling you that gravity exists? Your point of view ignores the validity of Intelligent Design, and by your definitions it makes it impossible to enter into the realm of consideration and possibility. If there ever was any evidence or proof suggesting validity to creationism or ID, you wouldn't recognize it in a 1000 years.

[1n354a]

@internetUtuber never heard about the universal theory of gravitation or the theory of relativity, eh? neither have been proven.

I love the 'even if I showed you evidence you wouldn't believe it' defense. Why don't you try me. Give me the evidence in support of your ID claims and let's test it! If it stands then so be it. If it is utter garbage then so be it. (oh yeah, if it is garbage, I don't want to hear 'you just don't want to believe' line).

So unload on me - I eagerly await!

[internetUtuber]

@1n354a I didn't say if I showed you evidence of ID you wouldn't believe, I simply meant that if there was something suggesting credibility to ID you would miss it, because your closed to the idea of it, and your not looking for anything like that. If your like most people you have just signed onto the evolution band wagon, and I just think that the status-quot of academia clings to evolution as the only valid idea so that's accepted, and minds are closed to anything contrary.

[1n354a]

@internetUtuber Actually I have signed onto no bandwagons. I was sick on sign-up day so I'm pretty much on my own.

I think that perhaps you feel that ID is slighted by a bunch of evilutionist who are carrying out some secret plan? Could it be that evolutionary theory is just the best explanation as to how life evolves based on currently available evidence? Could it be that perhaps ID has never presented a single testable hypothesis in order to validate any ID claims?

Do you know how many...

[internetUtuber]

@1n354a However, I do have opinions that I think suggest evidence, but I think it's important to address the point I made in my prior post, that the scientific world and academia have a sort of ideological monopoly with the theory of evolution, and it seems there is deeper intents and motivations driving them other than objective scientific thought.

[1n354a]

(cont) evolutionary biologists there are on the planet? For your claims to be true, they would all have to work in tandem to conceal the failings of the theory of evolution in a way that didn't catch the attention of anybody outside the world of science. That is the stuff of Hollywood movies, my friend.

Why don't we drop the shadow government claims and stick with the evidence....or just give me a testable hypothesis regarding ID. That would be a start!

[internetUtuber]

@1n354a I wasn't thinking a shadow government, more that the subscribers of evolution have a personal subconscious agenda to free their mind of an Almighty Lord God, because the idea of an Intelligent Creator has huge implications, and rather than opening that door it's easier to believe evolution and get one's self off the hook to live free of God and live how one chooses and desires to live. I think that's a huge factor, and that's what makes evolution so appealing.

[internetUtuber]

@1n354a I'll give you some hypothesis, but your need to test may not be satisfied. God's fingerprints are all over, and in the things which have been made, we understand it was made by God. In the strand of DNA, the order of the parts is statistically impossible to be by accidental means. The position of earth, moved closer to the sun would cause earth to be too hot for life and farther away too cold. The order of time caused by earth's rotation around the sun. These truths present questions.

[1n354a]

@internetUtuber The one thing that I walked away from Prob/stats class with is that statistics lie. Even if you have the math to support such a claim (which I doubt you do), they say nothing about whether or not DNA did form naturally. Either way not a testable hypothesis. The Earth is in the right zone for life so God exists, eh? Not a testable hypothesis. The order of time caused by Earth's rotation is a testable hypothesis how exactly?

[internetUtuber]

@1n354a The earth's position and rotation is just something to consider that things are not here by accident; and the science can be tested whether or not earth being closer or farther away from the sun would make life here not possible. I have a hypothesis you can test. Dedicate a day or a week or some amount of time where you say, "God if your real and Jesus is your Son sent to save me, then reveal yourself to me in this amount of time." If you are open you may find answers. God bless you!

[1n354a]

@internetUtuber Again, how does the position of the Earth indicate that there is an ID? An example of an hypothesis would be something like: The Earth is in the habitable zone because an intelligent designer put it there. Unfortunately there is no way to test this so it remains nothing by conjecture.

I have a better test for God: God if you are real and blah blah Jesus then send me an email with nxt week's winning lottery numbers in it....use my hotmail account, please.

Wait and see!! :)

[davidsfriend01]

@internetUtuber "In the strand of DNA, the order of the parts is statistically impossible to be by accidental means" Take 10 six sided dice. Roll them on a table. Record the values rolled on each individual die. Calculate the odds of that combination occuring by chance. Amaze yourself at the fact that it just did occur by chance before your very eyes. Or is my DnD group correct and there are Dice Gods?

[internetUtuber]

@davidsfriend01 If you did your dice experiment over and over it would not correlate with the statistical patterns you find in DNA. Rolling dice is random. DNA is not random. You would like it to be, maybe, to keep justifying your beliefs and resulting behavior but its better to confront a faulty foundation of beliefs before you get to the other side and find you were wrong and now you have to face detrimental consequences. So be wise.

[davidsfriend01]

@internetUtuber Which does nothing to change your statemant about statistical impossibility. I am well aware that DNA is not random. I was highlighting the fallacy of using statistical impossibility to explain improbable events. I'm not the one who said "In the strand of DNA, the order of the parts is statistically impossible to be by accidental means". It is not impossible, just improbable by chance. It was not chance, however, that gave us DNA. At least you caught that much.

[internetUtuber]

@davidsfriend01 I didn't read into your question very much, and it wasn't clear to me that you were highlighting that my conclusion was faulse, that DNA suggests design and if design, then the consideration of a Designer is innevitable. I didn't say my conclusion was the smoking gun that proves the existence of a Creator, I meant it to say it has strong suggestion, and its not an isolated fact in creation. Ultimately, it's by faith that you find God. Find Him Soon. internet diconect tommorow.

[davidsfriend01]

@internetUtuber "...and it wasn't clear to me that you were highlighting that my conclusion was faulse..." I apologise for not being clear enough for you.

"...that DNA suggests design and if design, then the consideration of a Designer is innevitable." My point was that DNA does not suggest a designer and I fail to see how a Designer is "innevitable."

"Ultimately, it's by faith that you find God." I'm well aware that believers need to resort to faith, it's all they have.

[internetUtuber]

@davidsfriend01 Its not resorting to faith because thats the last option. Biblically its the only option. However, once the Spirit of God reveals Himself to you it doesn't take a lot of faith, because your sixth sense antennas are being stimulated with the love of Christ in an experience which surpasses knowledge. So it's not only faith, it's faith with the confirmation of the Holy Spirit, which is a felt experience.

[davidsfriend01]

@internetUtuber "Biblically its the only option." Thats my main problem with holding the bible as a source of moral truth.

"However, once the Spirit of God reveals Himself to you it doesn't take a lot of faith, because your sixth sense antennas are being stimulated with the love of Christ in an experience which surpasses knowledge" I'm not even sure what to do with this part. Sixth sense antenna's? Surpasses knowledge? Are you even aware you're talking nonsense?

[internetUtuber]

@davidsfriend01 It sounds like nonsense because I'm trying to explain something that's hard to describe. Scripturally since your not in Christ, your feelings are correct, because it says, "For the message of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God." (1 Corinthians 1:18) But Paul prayed for believers "to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge" (Ephesians 3:19) so I'm explaining Scripture correctly to you.

[davidsfriend01]

@internetUtuber Please feel free to explain Scripture for as long as you wish. I've had people explaining it for over 25 years. So far noone has been able show just cause to consider any of it to be relevant or true. I'm sorry that we disagree on that point but untill you can demonstrate that the Bible can only have been written by, or at least inspired by, God, it remains little more than a book. Contrary to popular opinion, many athiests are quite familiar with Scripture.

[davidsfriend01]

@internetUtuber Please feel free to explain Scripture for as long as you wish. I've had people explaining it for over 25 years. So far noone has been able show just cause to consider any of it to be relevant or true. I'm sorry that we disagree on that point but untill you can demonstrate that the Bible can only have been written by, or at least inspired by, God, it remains little more than a book. Contrary to popular opinion, many athiests are quite familiar with Scripture.

[internetUtuber]

@davidsfriend01 Maybe you have some church experience or background. If that's true, you have probably heard the preaching of an atheist, like a college professor, who undermined faith. "Faith comes by hearing" God's Word, well unbelief comes by hearing. The Word won't produce for you unless mixed with faith, as it was said of the Israelites who did not enter the promised land "the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith." (Hebrews 4:2)

[davidsfriend01]

@internetUtuber "Maybe you have some church experience or background" Yes, I was raised Roman Catholic, I've studied the bible under both Jehova's Witnesses (not sure if my spelling is correct) and Lutherans. Additionaly I was subjected to Religious Education in school.

"If that's true, you have probably heard the preaching of an atheist, like a college professor, who undermined faith." I've heard it, but was an athiest long before I did.

[internetUtuber]

@davidsfriend01 Well it's preached, unbelief/evolution, not only in college (public schools, tv, everywhere, people who compromise the Bible with evolution), who knows the source of your disbelief but probably many sources. Mixed interpretation of the Bible via hearing it from Catholics, Lutherans, religious education (could be taught by a person who's objective is to disprove religion, namely Christ), Jehova's W. (they are wrong) would likely not produce a sure grounded faith but confusion.

[davidsfriend01]

@internetUtuber "The Word won't produce for you unless mixed with faith,..." That is one of my problems. Faith is not a good thing for someone who cares weather or not what they believe is true. Faith is, at best, belief without valid evidence. Why would you believe something if you have no good reason to do so. I have read the bible and studied under clergy, I still find no good reason to believe. Faith destroys ones ability think rationaly about reality. It is a curse.

[internetUtuber]

@davidsfriend01 Faith is a good thing. Faith isn't your problem. If your like me and all humans share a common problem, then you have a conscience problem. Faith in Christ is the solution, however, if you reject that solution, you will not have peace with God which comes by faith in Christ, that peace comes from being right with God (justified through Christ) (Romans 5:1). Putting aside your lack of faith, you may think of being right with God by doing right (law) and that is a curse, the law.

[davidsfriend01]

@internetUtuber "It sounds like nonsense because I'm trying to explain something that's hard to describe.: Another possibility is you are talking nonsense and dont realise it. I'm willing to concede that you may not have the vocabulary to express the idea well however, my wife has a similar problem. I'm assuming you mean humans come with material components used to detect undetectable immaterial radiation of some kind. Something "beyond" electromagnetic radiation?

[internetUtuber]

@davidsfriend01 Yeah, like there is more than what are physical senses can identify, something extra dimensional beyond what are peanut brain can pick up on. A spiritual dimension. Parapsychology departments at prestigious universities have identified that there is a part of a human being that can leave the body. The Bible would call that the human spirit, the part that never dies. In resonates in my heart that there is something more than what we can naturally see.

[davidsfriend01]

@internetUtuber "Yeah, like there is more than what are physical senses can identify,...) I agree there are things our physical senses cannot detect. those things, however, are still detectable. We have technological help to detect them, eg radio waves, ultraviolet light.

"Parapsychology departments at prestigious universities have identified that there is a part of a human being that can leave the body." Which universities? Which parts?

[internetUtuber]

@davidsfriend01 Ultraviolet light, radio wavs, and satilite signals, these sorts of things are a conformation in the natural of what is beyond are physical perception. To assume these things are the only undectebable signals and unseen forces would be going the wrong way; the right direction/ conclusion is to consider because these things do exist, what more can we not dect with are physical senses.? -Universities like Princeton and Arizona give crediability to the mind, body, spirit components.

[davidsfriend01]

@internetUtuber "So it's not only faith, it's faith with the confirmation of the Holy Spirit, which is a felt experience." If the confirmation os a "felt experience" how does it differ from faith? Where is the objective confirmation that it was not a hallucination? Its not only faith, its faith with a slightly different kind of faith. Perhaps I'm missing something big but I'm not sure I follow you exactly.

[internetUtuber]

@davidsfriend01 It's no hallucination. I'm just saying that when you reach out to God in faith, He responds; and you begin to sense His presence being well aware and conscious. If you read Hebrews chapter eleven, you see in verse 1 that faith has substance and later in the chapter that without faith you cannot please God, because you must believe that He is, and that He awards those who seek Him. Have faith that God justifies you through Christ (read Romans 4).

[Maserati7200]

this is pure win

[volound]

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