Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto No. 3 - Yefim Bronfman

[Bret6464]

Too much confusion, there is a need to define terms:

An "interpreter" does not merely "execute" the composition, an interpreter is a musician and artist, he/she puts something of themselves into their performance.

A "player" executes (plays) the composition (score and tempo/dynamics markings) - these days that is a midi-file.

Yefim Bronfman is not just a piano player, he is a great artist and musician. I was fortunate to have seen him doing Rach 2nd and Rach 3rd with great orchestras :-)

[madcowrocks]

08:29 pure power

[Legomyegoorj]

I really do enjoy this recording; that said, in my opinion, it hinges on the threshold of a "dragged" tempo. Not sure that's what Rachmaninoff--or the majority of his audience, for that matter--would have intended.

[Dihelson]

Give him the task to improvise like Oscar Peterson or Art Tatum, or even Keith Jarrett from scratch and he´ll stand mute. Interprets are copy guys. The great one is people who MAKE music, who compose something to the world, like Rachmaninov, Beethoven, Chopin. You can´t compare Bronfman with BACH or BEETHOVEN. If Bronfman and Rubinstein are in Mt. Everest, then where we place people like Beethoven, Debussy, Scriabin, Gershwin, Art Tatum, Coltrane, and Bill Evans ? think about that...

[mrpimp5061]

They're not TRYING to "make their name in history," they know they don't want to compose. And nobody here was comparing them with composers.

"The interpreter is really an executant, carrying out the composer's intentions to the letter. He doesn't add anything that isn't already in the work. If he is talented, he allows us to glimpse the truth of the work that is in itself a thing of genius and that is reflected in him. He shouldn't dominate the music, but should dissolve into it." -Richter

[mrpimp5061]

@Dihelson But also, I think you're being a little unfair in implying that interpreting music is "too easy" of a task, and that they "can't improvise." With the technique that Yefim Bronfman has (which you obviously know nothing of), he can pretty much play anything...like Richter, Rubinstein, Horowitz, etc. were able to as well. What are you even doing commenting on this video KNOWING that it's a video of Yefim Bronfman performing Rachmaninoff? Take your nonsense somewhere else.

[Dihelson]

@mrpimp5061 Sorry to ask you, but if my comment was so much nonsense as you said, why did you lost so much time by answering to it ? All the best.

[mrpimp5061]

@Dihelson Because I can answer whatever I like to. Just like you can comment if you like. I didn't say "don't comment," I just simply said, if you have nothing insightful to say, you might as well not comment. It's clear you didn't listen to this great recording, because a comment like that could've been made on any video of a performer performing a great composer's work. Your comments were quite outrageous, and not at all relevant to this video, which is why I suggested to not comment.

[SkateboarderXL]

@mrpimp5061 one very long word: snooooooooooooooooob ;)

[mrpimp5061]

@SkateboarderXL And how exactly am I a snooooob, may I ask?

[SkateboarderXL]

@mrpimp5061 First of all, because you imply by saing (and I quote): ''which you obviously know nothing of'', that you are better then him, wich is based on absolutely nothing. Second of all the way you type is snobby. Last but not least you act like you know everything, wich makes you a know-it-all, wise-ass and a snob. And because calling someone a snob is subjectively, why not simply let me say whatever the hell I feel like and go on with your snobby life?

[SkateboarderXL]

@mrpimp5061 by the way I never called you a snob at first. You simply assumed I did. I just like typing and spreading this beautiful word. Now get your head out of your ass, lighten up a little and stop being so childish by acting all wannabe mature. No hard feelings, right?

[ilmawify]

@Dihelson Very true what you say. i know so many great musicians who cant create anything themselves. But on the otherhand we have to remember that ALL music of the past is COMPLETELY non existent without the performers- so we cant say the one is more important than the other.

[josetato]

@Dihelson wow if Oscar Peterson, Art Tatum and Keith Jarrett could read your comment , they would probably ban you from all their concerts and label you as an ignorant...especially Keith Jarret and Peterson. And btw, interpreters ARE making music but in a different way than an improviser . Improvisation is all about making notes and playing with the harmonies(is hard as hell). Interpretation is all about shaping the sound to make it your "own".(also hard as hell). Sorry for my english

[emy1968]

@Dihelson interpreter is an interpreter, a composer is a musician... but... believe me some interpreters can "feel" the same of the composers even if they have not the talent to "create"...

[Dihelson]

Give him the task to improvise like Oscar Peterson or Art Tatum, or even Keith Jarrett and he´ll stand mute...

[M1sT3rM4n]

Such a shame to see that music nowadays get more popularity than masterpieces like this. I suppose it's because in modern times it's easier to relate to music that's watered down.

[watutman]

There are not many greater contributions to the world than being a virtuoso pianist.

[MrsRachmaninov3]

Piano solo, simplement merveilleux !!! à écouter sans modération....

Bravo Monsieur Yefim Bronfman, Un inconditionnel de Rachmaninov...

[dinkarrao1]

i wish hanamoon happyness

[hysteria0overdue]

Ugh. Piano concerto - and people say the piano's not more important than the orchestra? It's of equal importance to the orchestra.. Which means the whole orchestra.. Therefore the piano should be heard in equal to the whole orchestra, and above a fraction of it. I've been to many classical concerts, and when the piano is playing, it certainly is the main instrument you can hear. It's just the way it is - an extremely complicated and piece defining instrument.

[BeersontheMoon]

Yoda?

[arturon111]

But Arrau is above them all in all aspects, technique, musicallity, artistry and spiritual depth,... without question !!!

[jagang31]

Pianists like Bronfman stand alone because styles differ from one to another, to bad there is no video here, watching him play is almost as good a listening, because of his technique, and passion! Gergiev's control of the orchestra was flawless, so lets not bring up the subject of "ears", I have played for many conductors, good, bad, and horrible, and would be honored to sit in any orchestra he was conducting!!!

[GIONMARO]

You said it all. Both are equally important. But please, not even silly me would think the piano is "more important". I really don't know what it means, important. And again, I feel you're correct, the performance wasn't bad. but the recording of it is

[GIONMARO]

Flat. Sleep inducing. Hear him with the Vienna Philharmonic (someone has uploaded it) and know what this man is really capable of doing.

[GIONMARO]

Yes, I know he's not in the same class with Richter, Gilels, etc, but he's the best we've got, especially with Argerich and Pollini the way they are today.

[mario54671]

You can't compare pianists like that. They are all good. They all (Rubinstein, Richter, Bronfman, Horowitz, Schnabel, Cortot, Pollini, etc.) are all standing on top of Mt. Everest. It's like comparing oranges and apples. "Not the same class as Richter." They ALL stand on top of Mt. Everest. A virtuoso like Bronfman, the way he is now, he can pretty much play anything. Give him something, he'll learn it, and he'll play it.

[GIONMARO]

No my friend, comparing artists is not like comparing apples and oranges, but I won't argue with you there because I haven't made any comparison. I'm just saying that all the pianists you named will go down in musical history except, sad to say because I'm not behind you in admiring him, Yefim Bronfman. If you had any ear for music, you would know that.

[mario54671]

Yeah, I definitely have an ear for music. And you don't know that he will. Especially since he's probably the most talented virtuoso we have today. He's the most powerful pianist I've seen, he is SO powerful, I feel like he's lifting the grand piano with his pinkey. And most people don't get why Salonen is such a great conductor. He makes EVERY part important in the piece. Every part can be heard so clearly. Most conductors can't do that, they let parts slip away, while Salonen doesn't.

[mario54671]

The orchestra also was led by a bad conductor, Valery Gergiev. He just can't get the orchestra powerful enough at those certain parts, it just sounds...weak. They need more emphasis. If it was Salonen conducting...well hmm...then it's a different story. So it's not the orchestra themselves, they're just being led by a bad conductor.

[arturon111]

@mario54671 But Arrau is above them all in all aspects, technique, musicallity, artistry and spiritual depth,... without question !!!

[mario54671]

@arturon111 Thanks for your claim, it changes nothing.

[serloisse737]

@mario54671 With you I agree.

[GIONMARO]

And by the way, can anyone upload Gilels's recording of this concerto. If I remember correctly, he did it with Cluytens. A bit sloppy and the wrong notes as usual, but still worth hearing if only for the unbelievable fortissimos. Gieseking has a fine recording too.

[mario54671]

I like this one much better than the Vienna Philharmonic performance. I don't like listening to that one because the sound's imbalanced, the orchestra's sound is being overpowered by the piano due to bad mic-ing. This is a better recording since Salonen's conducting, he's not conducting the Vienna Philharmonic, but he's conducting the Philharmonia orchestra, which is still pretty good. Bronfman was a much better pianist in his 30's which is here, although he's still good, just not like before.

[GIONMARO]

I agree with you that the uploaded recording with THE VIENNA PHILHARMONIC ORCHESTRA is a bad one, but bad recordings don't bother discerning listeners as much as you think.

[mario54671]

Dude, I'm not saying the performance itself was bad, I'm saying it got ruined by the terrible mics. Since you hear the piano MUCH more than the orchestra, and it's totally imbalanced. I think the people handling that got the wrong idea that a "piano concerto" is a piece where the piano's more important than the orchestra, when actually, both are equally important.

[steve320823124314]

cool video nice sound

[miliona1re]

Il rullo compressore della russia,molto bravo

[FABIVAMO]

hombre este pianista para mi es un monstruo, es de lo mejor que yo he escuchado, no solo las interpretaciones de rachmaninov si no la de ravel. de verdad el es muy bueno y para mi uno de los mejorespianistas del mundo