Good interception, I think their are better ways to escape from this, but I'm going to try this. However, a couple things wrong. 1. There are ways the attacker can twist his hips to secure a good choke with one hand. Your focusing all your power on that second arm. 2. Works one on one, but on a street you need to disengage the threat and get back up. From a side control your controlling him, but not his friend who's coming behind you with a bat. But I'm going to try this one on one.
@AJM427 Please, demonstrate a perfect defense of any kind. I would appreciate that as, in 28 years of martial arts training, I've never seen anything that can't be countered in some way.
As for multiple attackers, if his buddy has my back...looks like I'm already screwed pretty good. Multiple attackers need to be adressed from the feet, not once you're in a horrible position on the ground. That's like asking me to defend a punch that has already hit my face.
@sgtjonesiniraq I see what your saying, I've seen safer ways to escape from a back mount, and I've seen faster ways to escape from a back mount. However, from a Jiu-Jisu stand point this works perfectly and I have used it and it works. Thanks for the vid.
i understand, i was just pointing that out. and ur never wasting ur time and energy if ur in a rear neck choke, u have to try to get out somehow. and u can maneuver ur feet to where they hook around his, and he will tap, unless hes man enough to finish the submission with snapped ankles
u see how the guys legs are wrapped around the other guys? all u have to do is lay ur legs across his feet, and push down, breaking his ankles, if he doesnt tap. from internet videos to thhe ufc, this simple escape form the rear necked choke is never utilized
@dolfan0 I understand what you're saying, but that doesn't work unless he crosses his ankles, otherwise they just flex and you slide off. Alot of beginners try what you're saying only to realize they are wasting time and energy. Remember, that it's never about hurting the other person, it's always about stopping them from hurting you. From a self defense perspective, even with broken ankles, they can still choke you unconscious! Thanks for watching.
@sgtjonesiniraq haha dude if u can show me someone that will keep submitting someone with 2 broken ankles, or not even losen their grip on ur neck so that youll be able to make an easy escape and i will find you and pay u a million dollars
@dolfan0 I think you missed my point. The move your saying, doesn't work. The reason you see no one with skill use it is because no one with skill will be harmed by it. Further, in a life and death situation, I'd rather go with something that I know will stop the person's ability to harm me. Having been to war, I can tell you a broken ankle doesn't stop as much as you may think, especially when you don't have to stand on it to finish off your enemy. Thanks for watching though. I appreciate it.
@sgtjonesiniraq dude it does work, given the right circumstances. and my instructor was a marine corps black belt instructor, who was almost killed in the same war. if the ankles are twerked or broken, the choke will losen. the bodys natural reaction would be to immediately let go. im not trying to sound like an ignorant dick, because u know more about jujitsu than me, and there are other escapes, but like i said, given the right circumstances, its effective
@dolfan0 The move you're talking about only works when the ankles are isolated, which only happens from back mount if the ankles are crossed. The reason is because pressing on the ankles individually doesn't put pressure on the ankle, rather you push down on the foot, the ankle begins to turn, this is kinetically linked to the hip, which flexes, the knees will point up and the pressure is aleviated. So, the move does not work. Also, I don't think you're trying to be a dick, just misinformed.
@JUKEBOXX1990 Sure could. The only problem there is that many people don't have the intestinal fortitude required to drive a finger skull deep into an eye socket. But it would likely work.
@sgtjonesiniraq i got another question in a situation where im fighting 2 or more guys and all i know is gjj..what do i do becuase if i take 1 down the other 1 or 2 guys can just kick me???
@JUKEBOXX1990 Stay standing, look for an escape route. If you can't find one, use good maneuvering to stack your opponents to try to take them one at a time. The simple fact is, if two people get ahold of you, you're pretty screwed. I've studied martial arts for 26 years, they even odds, but don't work miracles. BJJ/GJJ has lots of standing self defense to include punching and kicking, contrary to popular belief. It's just not the primary focus because it can't be trained at 100% effort.
@sgtjonesiniraq wow honestly your the first gjj guy i talk to who hasn't come off cocky or saying the gjj will beat any situation..im not saying all gjj guys are like that but i have talk to over 10 and all of them came off that way when i ask them the question i ask you they didnt really reply with a straight answer like you have..most just said to believe in gjj and you will survive or something like that..well thanks for your feedback...
@JUKEBOXX1990 If all 10 out of 10 GJJ guys are talking that way, then their teachers have ensured that they have confidence going into any situation. Apparently the same can't be said with Wing Chung, TKD or Karate.
@JUKEBOXX1990 Regarding my attitude. I've trained with Pedro Sauer, Royler Gracie, Mario Sperry, and Saulo Ribeiro. They are some of the best guys in the world. They all admit that GJJ/BJJ does not work miracles. Saddly, there are alot of meatheads out there that feel they are invincible...they're wrong. That said, if you can't get away from multiple attackers, you should fight however you know how. Thanks for all the comments.
@MPA2000 well all the gjj guys i asked have never been in that situation..also you shouldn't bash other martial arts..and btw its been proven in the cage in mma today that gjj guys have a hard time dealing with a really good wrestler
@JUKEBOXX1990 Today's MMA game is not the same as it used to be. Everyone knows the submissions and what to do to avoid them. Really, that's all the Gracie's were trying to prove, that you must know BJJ/GJJ or you will be defeated by it. The best wrestlers in the cage today are also skilled in submissions. I've grappled many D1 wrestlers and defeated them all. Once they learn what to look for, they become very formidable.
@sgtjonesiniraq yes i agree the mma game today is much more skilled fighters ...and yes i agree with what you said about know gjj/bjj or you will be defeated by it..knowledge is power
Way to long and complex,,,,,just grind the back of your nut into his face...Guaranteed he'll forget about his f****** choke and let go....I love doing this on bjj guys....watch em suffer.. : )
Today when I was rolling someone got my back but I defended the rear naked choke perfectly, I just didn't know how to get out. But after watching this video I can't wait to try it out and see if I can get out.
@SkemeKOS I don't follow. Are you saying that you taught this...and 6 of your guys got choked anyway? Or just making a general statement that there are 6 people who have been choked out? I can only assume it's the former, in that...before you teach something...make sure you can pull it off and understand it. Also, if they person who gets your back is better than you, then they get your collar...you're probably screwed!
@youngdrumma Yeah... I figured it out when he explained it. The body triangle is a different story. It's often difficult to just use the foot to break it down. You can still put your back toward the ground, but they will usually end up mounting you from there. If they are able to lace behind your leg...you may be in alot of trouble. The only saving grace is they will be slower to armbar if you over compensate on the choke defense. There's no changing that it's a bad situation to be in. Thanks.
A good way to explain this is to say that the opp's hand is pointing to the direction you want to go,. In other words, the top arm that is on your collar is almost pointing a finger and you should follow that. I teach it that way, and it helps people remember.
i got a better escape , just put urself in a side position , control ur opp.'s elbow (which on the ground) n then start rolling ur chest to his chest .. did it before n worked more than once !!!
thanks for the video, but not a very good understanding of the mechanics of that particular escape. Body positioning is somewhat incorrect or imprecise. I learned this escape from a Gracie in about '96.
@LardInATubeSock Well...you can't learn everything from a video. I make it work against alot of people. So I know I'm doing it right. Perhaps I didn't transmit that well over the video. But thanks for watching.
I gotta better one from ninjutsu for when you are no gi : 1. straighten one leg (he will lose his "hook" when you turn if you do this first), then 2. arch your back, 3. pass one arm behind your back into the arch, but watch for the "cop lock". 4. grab his belt, and use the grip to assist your turn as you "shrink" the other shoulder, 5. turn sharply and suddely to face. You will almost never fear a rear naked again! PEACE!
@mechapakmei That's a good one too and is used often. But it can't be used if he already has the grip in the collar. Turning will put you into the choke. Your escape is a good one if you're ahead of the game and haven't made the mistake of letting them get your collar. Thanks for watching and commenting!!
2. don't put you arm between the two of you if he has your back, quick way to get caught if your rolling against someone who knows what they are doing.
@mechapakmei No you're not free to advance it. Because that is not how Classical Japanese Bujutsu works. It's a traditional lineage that is kept "traditional"
And if you're talking about newaza from Ninjutsu in that manner. Then you probably don't know Ninjutsu at all. The newaza that is seen here was created in the Judo syllabus. Classical Japanese martial arts do not contain this type of newaza.
@BlackShinobiShozoku No there was nothing all that "traditional" about the school i trained in, they crosstrained in, and taught many techniques, nowadays they claim to be "freestyle ninjutsu", and have broken away from their roots, but I make no secrets about this. I was trained well, wether it was "traditional" or not, and many people advance ninjutsu, I just get sick of people saying ninjustu has basic ground fighting, just because it is more sound.
@mechapakmei There is no such thing as "freestyle ninjutsu"
No one who knows real Ninjutsu "advances" Ninjutsu. Or it's no longer Ninjutsu. Groundfighting found in Ninjutsu would basically be done from seiza position. Or done kneeling with the opponent on his back. You don't understand that classical traditional arts like "Ninjutsu" have a philosophy that comes with it. Without having lineage back to a Ninja ryu. You won't understand the philosophy that is behind the movements/techniques.
@BlackShinobiShozoku Many people who know "real ninjutsu" have advanced it, just look @ Stephen Hayes. The philosophy is still intact, they just encourage cross-training in different styles (what if you come up against someone trained another style?) and include modern elements like gun defences and disarms. Ninjutsu has NEVER historically been a stagnant style, if it was, their would be no such thing as ninja using guns for instance. Time to move out of the dark ages bro!
@mechapakmei Stephen Hayes may include Ninjutsu in his curriculum, but his school is not a Ninjutsu school. That's why it's called ToShinDo. Not "x-ryu Ninjutsu"
There is very little Ninjutsu in what hayes teaches. But yes Ninjutsu that exist today is stagnant. And Ninja using guns doesn't mean "guns is Ninjutsu" It's referred to as Teppojutsu. Also Stephen K Hayes has legitimate lineage leading back to Ninjutsu. What lineage do you have?
@BlackShinobiShozoku Im not intentionally being offensive to anyone. My instructor was taught what he believed to be ninjutsu, I have my doubts, but if the art is going to be made better, how is that bad?
Thaks for sharing! I like the arm grab idea! Like you said this is not a rear naked choke escape. However, one point i would like to make - you should emphasize getting both shoulder blades parallel and low to the ground which would make the choke impossible and is the main purpose of escaping to the side. Like you said, once the choke is fully on very very hard to escape! Do you know any escape when the opponent has an over/under grip tight on your chest when he has you in seated rear mount?
Thats all fine and such, but most attacks from the rear naked choke do not have an arm reaching for the chest part of the gi. one arm goes around the neck and grabs your own bicep of your opposite arm. this is how most chokes are done.
This is not a rear naked choke escape. Or even a choke escape. This escape is designed to remove the opponent from the back mount. If they already have the choke sunk in...you're in alot of trouble. Not impossible to escape, but very difficult indeed.
Wow! Thanks! I'm sure Pedro would love to hear that his reputation is so high. He is an amazingly talented instructor. I owe everything I know to him and Tony Rinaldi (my most immediate instructor).
Are we talking about the actual choke? Or just when someone has their legs in position to begin attempting the choke (one arm and your head in his legs)?
When legs are just in position, you should always attempt to make posture without giving up your arm to the armbar. When it's fully on, that's a little touch and go. You can sit to your butt and put your feet in their armpits or throat...some people are very effective with stacking. But it's gonna be though to get away from.
Good interception, I think their are better ways to escape from this, but I'm going to try this. However, a couple things wrong. 1. There are ways the attacker can twist his hips to secure a good choke with one hand. Your focusing all your power on that second arm. 2. Works one on one, but on a street you need to disengage the threat and get back up. From a side control your controlling him, but not his friend who's coming behind you with a bat. But I'm going to try this one on one.
AJM427 1 month ago
@AJM427 Please, demonstrate a perfect defense of any kind. I would appreciate that as, in 28 years of martial arts training, I've never seen anything that can't be countered in some way.
As for multiple attackers, if his buddy has my back...looks like I'm already screwed pretty good. Multiple attackers need to be adressed from the feet, not once you're in a horrible position on the ground. That's like asking me to defend a punch that has already hit my face.
Thanks for watching.
sgtjonesiniraq 1 month ago
@sgtjonesiniraq I see what your saying, I've seen safer ways to escape from a back mount, and I've seen faster ways to escape from a back mount. However, from a Jiu-Jisu stand point this works perfectly and I have used it and it works. Thanks for the vid.
AJM427 1 month ago
@sgtjonesiniraq Good response Bill. lmao
DICEMAN60 4 days ago
i understand, i was just pointing that out. and ur never wasting ur time and energy if ur in a rear neck choke, u have to try to get out somehow. and u can maneuver ur feet to where they hook around his, and he will tap, unless hes man enough to finish the submission with snapped ankles
dolfan0 6 months ago
u see how the guys legs are wrapped around the other guys? all u have to do is lay ur legs across his feet, and push down, breaking his ankles, if he doesnt tap. from internet videos to thhe ufc, this simple escape form the rear necked choke is never utilized
dolfan0 6 months ago
@dolfan0 I understand what you're saying, but that doesn't work unless he crosses his ankles, otherwise they just flex and you slide off. Alot of beginners try what you're saying only to realize they are wasting time and energy. Remember, that it's never about hurting the other person, it's always about stopping them from hurting you. From a self defense perspective, even with broken ankles, they can still choke you unconscious! Thanks for watching.
sgtjonesiniraq 6 months ago
@sgtjonesiniraq haha dude if u can show me someone that will keep submitting someone with 2 broken ankles, or not even losen their grip on ur neck so that youll be able to make an easy escape and i will find you and pay u a million dollars
dolfan0 6 months ago
@dolfan0 I think you missed my point. The move your saying, doesn't work. The reason you see no one with skill use it is because no one with skill will be harmed by it. Further, in a life and death situation, I'd rather go with something that I know will stop the person's ability to harm me. Having been to war, I can tell you a broken ankle doesn't stop as much as you may think, especially when you don't have to stand on it to finish off your enemy. Thanks for watching though. I appreciate it.
sgtjonesiniraq 6 months ago
@sgtjonesiniraq dude it does work, given the right circumstances. and my instructor was a marine corps black belt instructor, who was almost killed in the same war. if the ankles are twerked or broken, the choke will losen. the bodys natural reaction would be to immediately let go. im not trying to sound like an ignorant dick, because u know more about jujitsu than me, and there are other escapes, but like i said, given the right circumstances, its effective
dolfan0 6 months ago
@dolfan0 The move you're talking about only works when the ankles are isolated, which only happens from back mount if the ankles are crossed. The reason is because pressing on the ankles individually doesn't put pressure on the ankle, rather you push down on the foot, the ankle begins to turn, this is kinetically linked to the hip, which flexes, the knees will point up and the pressure is aleviated. So, the move does not work. Also, I don't think you're trying to be a dick, just misinformed.
sgtjonesiniraq 6 months ago
@sgtjonesiniraq hey in a self defense situation couldn't i just stick my fingers in his eyes..
JUKEBOXX1990 6 months ago
@JUKEBOXX1990 Sure could. The only problem there is that many people don't have the intestinal fortitude required to drive a finger skull deep into an eye socket. But it would likely work.
sgtjonesiniraq 6 months ago
@sgtjonesiniraq well you dont really have to go skull deep into the eyes.just enough to get em off your back ..thanks for respond..
JUKEBOXX1990 6 months ago
@sgtjonesiniraq i got another question in a situation where im fighting 2 or more guys and all i know is gjj..what do i do becuase if i take 1 down the other 1 or 2 guys can just kick me???
JUKEBOXX1990 6 months ago
@JUKEBOXX1990 Stay standing, look for an escape route. If you can't find one, use good maneuvering to stack your opponents to try to take them one at a time. The simple fact is, if two people get ahold of you, you're pretty screwed. I've studied martial arts for 26 years, they even odds, but don't work miracles. BJJ/GJJ has lots of standing self defense to include punching and kicking, contrary to popular belief. It's just not the primary focus because it can't be trained at 100% effort.
sgtjonesiniraq 6 months ago
@sgtjonesiniraq wow honestly your the first gjj guy i talk to who hasn't come off cocky or saying the gjj will beat any situation..im not saying all gjj guys are like that but i have talk to over 10 and all of them came off that way when i ask them the question i ask you they didnt really reply with a straight answer like you have..most just said to believe in gjj and you will survive or something like that..well thanks for your feedback...
JUKEBOXX1990 6 months ago
@JUKEBOXX1990 If all 10 out of 10 GJJ guys are talking that way, then their teachers have ensured that they have confidence going into any situation. Apparently the same can't be said with Wing Chung, TKD or Karate.
MPA2000 6 months ago
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JUKEBOXX1990 6 months ago
@JUKEBOXX1990 Regarding my attitude. I've trained with Pedro Sauer, Royler Gracie, Mario Sperry, and Saulo Ribeiro. They are some of the best guys in the world. They all admit that GJJ/BJJ does not work miracles. Saddly, there are alot of meatheads out there that feel they are invincible...they're wrong. That said, if you can't get away from multiple attackers, you should fight however you know how. Thanks for all the comments.
sgtjonesiniraq 5 months ago
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JUKEBOXX1990 6 months ago
@MPA2000 well all the gjj guys i asked have never been in that situation..also you shouldn't bash other martial arts..and btw its been proven in the cage in mma today that gjj guys have a hard time dealing with a really good wrestler
JUKEBOXX1990 6 months ago
@JUKEBOXX1990 Today's MMA game is not the same as it used to be. Everyone knows the submissions and what to do to avoid them. Really, that's all the Gracie's were trying to prove, that you must know BJJ/GJJ or you will be defeated by it. The best wrestlers in the cage today are also skilled in submissions. I've grappled many D1 wrestlers and defeated them all. Once they learn what to look for, they become very formidable.
sgtjonesiniraq 5 months ago
@sgtjonesiniraq yes i agree the mma game today is much more skilled fighters ...and yes i agree with what you said about know gjj/bjj or you will be defeated by it..knowledge is power
JUKEBOXX1990 5 months ago
check out super mario having a blue belt
eskiboy84 8 months ago 13
@eskiboy84 lol
sgtjonesiniraq 8 months ago
nice, is it the same without a gi?
xolloy01 11 months ago
@xolloy01 Sure is. The no gi game tends to be a lot slicker, so it's a little harder to end up in side control. But you can usually force a scramble.
sgtjonesiniraq 11 months ago
@sgtjonesiniraq thank you very much for your reply.
I hope to see you in ADCC! haha
xolloy01 11 months ago
@xolloy01 Lol. Thanks for watching....Don't hold your breath on the ADCC. But who knows...only time will tell right!
sgtjonesiniraq 11 months ago
Way to long and complex,,,,,just grind the back of your nut into his face...Guaranteed he'll forget about his f****** choke and let go....I love doing this on bjj guys....watch em suffer.. : )
TheCaptainblah 11 months ago
@TheCaptainblah Lol wow you are a dumbass
22jermz 10 months ago
@TheCaptainblah you obviously don't know shit
thisiswarson 10 months ago
Today when I was rolling someone got my back but I defended the rear naked choke perfectly, I just didn't know how to get out. But after watching this video I can't wait to try it out and see if I can get out.
Splagl 1 year ago
@Splagl Hope it works out for ya! Good luck
sgtjonesiniraq 1 year ago
We tried this and it worked great ! thanks !
auralvampire1 1 year ago
6 people got choked out!
SkemeKOS 1 year ago 6
@SkemeKOS I don't follow. Are you saying that you taught this...and 6 of your guys got choked anyway? Or just making a general statement that there are 6 people who have been choked out? I can only assume it's the former, in that...before you teach something...make sure you can pull it off and understand it. Also, if they person who gets your back is better than you, then they get your collar...you're probably screwed!
sgtjonesiniraq 1 year ago
@sgtjonesiniraq
LOL no!
I was referring to the number of viewers that gave this video a thumbs down.
Obviously, they tried this technique, failed and got choked out LOL...therefore they gave it the thumbs down.
LOSERS!
And just incase youre wondering, I tried this escape and I didnt get choked out so I gave you a thumbs up!
SkemeKOS 1 year ago
@SkemeKOS Ha!! Awesome. Glad it worked out for ya. Thanks for watching.
sgtjonesiniraq 1 year ago
@sgtjonesiniraq he said tht cuz u have 6 dislikes and hes saying those are the people tht got choked out and what if they have a body triangle
youngdrumma 1 year ago
@youngdrumma Yeah... I figured it out when he explained it. The body triangle is a different story. It's often difficult to just use the foot to break it down. You can still put your back toward the ground, but they will usually end up mounting you from there. If they are able to lace behind your leg...you may be in alot of trouble. The only saving grace is they will be slower to armbar if you over compensate on the choke defense. There's no changing that it's a bad situation to be in. Thanks.
sgtjonesiniraq 1 year ago
A good way to explain this is to say that the opp's hand is pointing to the direction you want to go,. In other words, the top arm that is on your collar is almost pointing a finger and you should follow that. I teach it that way, and it helps people remember.
RightWingCon81 1 year ago
i got a better escape , just put urself in a side position , control ur opp.'s elbow (which on the ground) n then start rolling ur chest to his chest .. did it before n worked more than once !!!
GoneWld 1 year ago
@GoneWld Yup.. That's another good one.
sgtjonesiniraq 1 year ago
You gotta watch the reversal, but yeah, this is good technique! :)
mechapakmei 1 year ago
good video and god I would love to feel that mustache tickling my ball-sack
TheGraciefighter101 1 year ago
so he shrimps away and retakes your back? really smooth
jelr17 1 year ago
Killer mustache
irishsurfer2000 1 year ago 3
@irishsurfer2000 LOL!!!!
sgtjonesiniraq 1 year ago
@irishsurfer2000 Your talking to Ed Power. Hes been my instructor for the past 11 years.
DICEMAN60 8 months ago
not the best escape iv seen lol :P
takidabossen 1 year ago
I have used this technique with success and it tends to catch some people off guard. Great video.
JRT140 1 year ago
thanks for the video, but not a very good understanding of the mechanics of that particular escape. Body positioning is somewhat incorrect or imprecise. I learned this escape from a Gracie in about '96.
LardInATubeSock 1 year ago
@LardInATubeSock Well...you can't learn everything from a video. I make it work against alot of people. So I know I'm doing it right. Perhaps I didn't transmit that well over the video. But thanks for watching.
sgtjonesiniraq 1 year ago
@sgtjonesiniraq I can see that if you got this off quick and fluid, there would be little time to escape...
mechapakmei 1 year ago
Old school jap wrist lock haha. good escape
yeee941 1 year ago
you have a wrist lock there dude, if it allows.
piggypoo 1 year ago
@piggypoo yup. Sure do. Most guys won't let it happen though.
sgtjonesiniraq 1 year ago
note that I don't grapple. haha, thankyou though
piggypoo 1 year ago
This is really Gracie Gracie style.
sinatrafan1987 1 year ago
I gotta better one from ninjutsu for when you are no gi : 1. straighten one leg (he will lose his "hook" when you turn if you do this first), then 2. arch your back, 3. pass one arm behind your back into the arch, but watch for the "cop lock". 4. grab his belt, and use the grip to assist your turn as you "shrink" the other shoulder, 5. turn sharply and suddely to face. You will almost never fear a rear naked again! PEACE!
mechapakmei 1 year ago
@mechapakmei That's a good one too and is used often. But it can't be used if he already has the grip in the collar. Turning will put you into the choke. Your escape is a good one if you're ahead of the game and haven't made the mistake of letting them get your collar. Thanks for watching and commenting!!
sgtjonesiniraq 1 year ago
1. no belt to grab if going no gi
2. don't put you arm between the two of you if he has your back, quick way to get caught if your rolling against someone who knows what they are doing.
just a thought, not hating, roll on
yeoman9413 1 year ago
@yeoman9413 Yeah, you can get caught, but more often than not YOU will catch them green.
mechapakmei 1 year ago
@mechapakmei
That's not apart of Ninjutsu curriculum. Sorry.
BlackShinobiShozoku 1 year ago
@BlackShinobiShozoku No but I am free to advance it, and am sick of my advanced stuff being bitten and labelled BJJ.
mechapakmei 1 year ago
@mechapakmei No you're not free to advance it. Because that is not how Classical Japanese Bujutsu works. It's a traditional lineage that is kept "traditional"
And if you're talking about newaza from Ninjutsu in that manner. Then you probably don't know Ninjutsu at all. The newaza that is seen here was created in the Judo syllabus. Classical Japanese martial arts do not contain this type of newaza.
BlackShinobiShozoku 1 year ago
@BlackShinobiShozoku No there was nothing all that "traditional" about the school i trained in, they crosstrained in, and taught many techniques, nowadays they claim to be "freestyle ninjutsu", and have broken away from their roots, but I make no secrets about this. I was trained well, wether it was "traditional" or not, and many people advance ninjutsu, I just get sick of people saying ninjustu has basic ground fighting, just because it is more sound.
mechapakmei 1 year ago
@mechapakmei There is no such thing as "freestyle ninjutsu"
No one who knows real Ninjutsu "advances" Ninjutsu. Or it's no longer Ninjutsu. Groundfighting found in Ninjutsu would basically be done from seiza position. Or done kneeling with the opponent on his back. You don't understand that classical traditional arts like "Ninjutsu" have a philosophy that comes with it. Without having lineage back to a Ninja ryu. You won't understand the philosophy that is behind the movements/techniques.
BlackShinobiShozoku 1 year ago
@BlackShinobiShozoku Many people who know "real ninjutsu" have advanced it, just look @ Stephen Hayes. The philosophy is still intact, they just encourage cross-training in different styles (what if you come up against someone trained another style?) and include modern elements like gun defences and disarms. Ninjutsu has NEVER historically been a stagnant style, if it was, their would be no such thing as ninja using guns for instance. Time to move out of the dark ages bro!
mechapakmei 1 year ago
@mechapakmei Stephen Hayes may include Ninjutsu in his curriculum, but his school is not a Ninjutsu school. That's why it's called ToShinDo. Not "x-ryu Ninjutsu"
There is very little Ninjutsu in what hayes teaches. But yes Ninjutsu that exist today is stagnant. And Ninja using guns doesn't mean "guns is Ninjutsu" It's referred to as Teppojutsu. Also Stephen K Hayes has legitimate lineage leading back to Ninjutsu. What lineage do you have?
List the Ryu-ha for me?
BlackShinobiShozoku 1 year ago
@BlackShinobiShozoku Dude, i already told you I'm illegitimate, stop looking to troll...
mechapakmei 1 year ago
@mechapakmei I'm not being a troll.
You're being offensive to traditional Japanese bujutsu. You're trying to steal Ninjutsu name. That is fraud.
BlackShinobiShozoku 1 year ago
@BlackShinobiShozoku Im not intentionally being offensive to anyone. My instructor was taught what he believed to be ninjutsu, I have my doubts, but if the art is going to be made better, how is that bad?
mechapakmei 1 year ago
good tip =)
naitoshi86 2 years ago
Thaks for sharing! I like the arm grab idea! Like you said this is not a rear naked choke escape. However, one point i would like to make - you should emphasize getting both shoulder blades parallel and low to the ground which would make the choke impossible and is the main purpose of escaping to the side. Like you said, once the choke is fully on very very hard to escape! Do you know any escape when the opponent has an over/under grip tight on your chest when he has you in seated rear mount?
LardInATubeSock 2 years ago
Liked the the use of the top foot to get rid of the hook, thanks!
RonnySayfan 2 years ago
Thats all fine and such, but most attacks from the rear naked choke do not have an arm reaching for the chest part of the gi. one arm goes around the neck and grabs your own bicep of your opposite arm. this is how most chokes are done.
skrullion 2 years ago
This is not a rear naked choke escape. Or even a choke escape. This escape is designed to remove the opponent from the back mount. If they already have the choke sunk in...you're in alot of trouble. Not impossible to escape, but very difficult indeed.
sgtjonesiniraq 2 years ago
Yes Bill thanx for pointing that out to him. This is Sean one of Eds students btw.
DICEMAN60 2 years ago
@skrullion No arm reaching for the chest, you have misread. And If he has the collar choke, just turn the other way lol. No problem.
mechapakmei 1 year ago
Great job!
cygroltd 2 years ago
well done.
rickyleehale 2 years ago
Nice!!!
datsik433 2 years ago
pedro sauer guys always have the best technique. thanks!
spleenbuster 3 years ago
Wow! Thanks! I'm sure Pedro would love to hear that his reputation is so high. He is an amazingly talented instructor. I owe everything I know to him and Tony Rinaldi (my most immediate instructor).
sgtjonesiniraq 3 years ago
hmph, i like that escape
never tried the arm trick though
broomstick123 3 years ago
Just be careful using it mike. Remember, you're already in a really bad position. The best course of action is always not to get there.
sgtjonesiniraq 3 years ago
Sir one question how do you escape from a triangle choke ?
twyztted 3 years ago
Are we talking about the actual choke? Or just when someone has their legs in position to begin attempting the choke (one arm and your head in his legs)?
sgtjonesiniraq 3 years ago
both
twyztted 3 years ago
When legs are just in position, you should always attempt to make posture without giving up your arm to the armbar. When it's fully on, that's a little touch and go. You can sit to your butt and put your feet in their armpits or throat...some people are very effective with stacking. But it's gonna be though to get away from.
sgtjonesiniraq 3 years ago
thank you
twyztted 3 years ago
thank you
twyztted 3 years ago
Quite welcome. Glad you liked it.
sgtjonesiniraq 3 years ago