Granted, I agree almost 100% with progressive policies, a problem arises when they are view by the right in the same light that the Tea Party is viewed by the left. It may do them very well in the primary (e.g. Sestak, a liberal & Christine O'Donnell, a Tea Partier), but when it comes time to the big elections, especially state-wide elections, that may be a weak point for either side. Bearing that in mind, I do like seeing progressive victories, because those are victories for the country.
I love the pretzel-logic of this Guy. ONLY on this channel can you watch such cognitive dissonance parlay with such self-congratulatory failure. This kind of display of critical thinking must be highly esteemed among your peers! YOU SIR, Are what every rainbow-loving, bunny-hugging SHILL could ever hope to be!
You should feel PROUD. - Spoken like a true socialist.
Well, even though I agree with Rand Paul on the issues that Cenk agrees with him on. He did get endorsements from Sarah Palin and incumbent senator Jim Bunning who are both part of the establishment.
Obama never really backed Specter. Yeah, they sent Biden there a couple of times(out of obligation since he gave Dems their 59th vote), but Obama distanced his Admin in recent weeks and never personally came down to rally for him.
Some of the Republicans commenting here are amusingly hypocritical. May Cenk be putting a positive spin on the elections, and can the INTERPRETATION of the results be biased? Sure. But these complaints are coming from the same Republicans whose bias is "oh no progressives can't possibly be winning... on anything!" If the senate were 100 liberals and 0 conservatives (as opposed to the majority the liberals have had for several years now), the Republicans would STILL delude themselves as winners.
Um Cenk Obama did not support the republican who switched to democrats in fact he abandoned him. He did not give a shit about that guy. Now Lincoln I never heard Obama endorsing her
@PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD Most of the people who won were opposed to the Obama agenda so u cant say that progressives won here. The country is overall opposed to the Obama agenda. And how can anyone say someone like Rand Paul is a win for progressives? He was backed by the Tea Party which is mainly conservative leaning people.
Most progressives are opposed to Obama's agenda as well, mainly because his agenda is to keep the status qou as much as possible.
I will state Rand Paul is a win for progressives, as most of the issues he disagrees with progressives on are ones that have no political backing what so ever.
@yellowkrux So progressives are opposed to universal health care, amnesty for illegals, strong financial regulations on wall street, high taxes on job creators, outlawing enhanced interrogation techniques, and growing government until the budget collapses the United States?
Half that shit Obama's against & the other half is Reagunomics IE bullshit used to justify class war against the working class.& What do you mean outlawing "enhanced interrogation techniques"? Thats already illegal under federal & international law.
@yellowkrux Obama and Congress didnt just pass a $2.5 trillion universal health care bill? And Reaganomics is used to justify class war against the working class? Class warfare originates from Marxism and is used by the left frequently, not the right. Obama signed a $862 billion stimulus package. Reagan would have NEVER done that. Thats Keynesian Economics not Reaganomics. Reagan would have never bailed out those corporations also. And enhanced interrogation techniques arent illegal, torture is.
@bRizzle2009100 No class warfare doesn't originate from marxism, it existed before Marx, he simply defined it & claimed that it was an inevitable under capitalism (he may be correct)& it's usually used by the right as they're the only ones w/ the power to use it.& yes Reaganomics is nothing more than class warfare against the working class, one only has to look at the effects to see this. FYI the bail out was Bush's plan. I could go on but I get the feeling you don't care that you're wrong.
@yellowkrux U actually havent proved anything. And the right is the only ones with the power to use it? So the Democratic party isnt in power right now? Or are they considered "right" too? And "Bush's plan" u are talking about is the TARP program which i was for at the time but now against. I was talking about the auto bailouts, AIG bailouts etc. This is what happens when u get govt and big business too intertwined. And capitalism isnt the problem, crony capitalism is.
@bRizzle2009100 I never stated I proved anything. Nor did I state capitalism was the problem. I find it amusing that right wingnuts always pretend anyone who disagrees with them (IE believes in reality) is attacking capitalism. (FYI bank bailouts, bush's idea)
@yellowkrux U said that all Reaganomics is is class warfare against the working class when in reality thats not true. The middle class grew more during the Reagan years than in any other recent decade. And the basic theory of Reaganomics is that govt needs to get out of the way of the private sector. Less govt is more efficient govt. I assume u were implying that u didnt like Reaganomics which would also imply u dont trust the private sector and that it needs govt intervention to be successful.
Odd considering the average holdings of the middle class shrunk.
& No there were three basic parts of Reaganomics, one was the field policy from the 1890s called mule & sparrow (AKA trickle down) economics another was the elimination of the right of workers to organize( against international law) & the third was the elimination of OSHA resulting in a great increase in workplace accidents.
@yellowkrux The percentage of households making less than $15,000 shrunk from 27.5% in 1980 to 25.3% in 1989. The percentage of households making between $15,000-$50,000 shrunk from 55% in 1980 to 51.1% in 1989. The reason why households with less than $50,000 income shrunk was bc the number of households who made more than $50,000 rose from 17.6% in 1980 to 23.5% in 1989. Thats further proved by real family median income rising from $36,326 in 1982 to $40,890 in 1989.
@bRizzle2009100 You're literally calling Reaganomics a success because the average wage went up at a rate lower than inflation. The job growth under Reagen was horrible ,the only President to do worse since was W, then there's the fact that the poverty rate went up, then personal savings dropped from 8% to 6.5%. I could go on, but I doubt it would matter.
@yellowkrux Well u said the average holdings of the middle class shrunk when thats not true. Households making less than $50,000 shrunk while households making more than $50,000 increased. The average family income increased, not decreased. And to say that job growth under Reagan was bad is simply misinforming. Unemployment peaked at 10.8% in '82 but went down every year since then and eventually decreased to 5.4% in '89. Over 20 million new jobs were created under Reagan.
@bRizzle2009100 No it is true, holding isn't the same as income, holdings is the total net value of what one ones. Compensating for inflation the average income decreased. & The job growth rate under Reagen was 2.1 percent only one president since then has done worse & that was W. Once again I could go on but you don't care if what you believe is actually true.
@yellowkrux And where do u get your "facts" from? Everything i have listed has come from the U.S. Census Bureau. The average family income increased, the % of households that made under $50,000 decreased while the % of households that made $50,000 or more increased, unemployment decreased dramatically, inflation decreased dramatically, Real GDP increased more than any other time in history, personal savings decreased bc ppl were spending money which explains the economic revival.
@bRizzle2009100 And 'and' is a horrible way to start a paragraph. I get my facts from the census bureau& the department of labor statistics. Also poverty rate increased, & wages decreased once you compensate for inflation. Also you just defended your position by using an argument defeating your position? GDP did grow, as the average wage went down & poverty rate increased. Do you still want to claim it wasn't class warfare?
@yellowkrux I said that personal savings might have decreased bc ppl went out and spent the money. Consumer spending is more than half of our GDP so it makes sense that if ppl would have saved their money instead of spending it then GDP growth would have not been as high. The facts are on my side. Unemployment, inflation both decreased dramatically, Real GDP grew more than any other decade, incomes for families & individuals increased greatly, the fact is the economy boomed during the 80's.
@bRizzle2009100 GDP grew as did the poverty rate & wages shrunk (if you take into account inflation) in other words the country did better but the working class did worse. Are you still going to claim it wasn't a deliberate act of class warfare?
@bRizzle2009100 This is a right wing red harring argument.Almost all democrats are in favor of capotolism.But the goverments job is to act like a ref between the private sector and the people.History has shown over and over again that when the gov fails to regulate the free market they will enevetably take advantage of the poeple.Are you in favor a a gov for the corprations by the corparations and of the corparations.
@bRizzle2009100 Regan also raised taxes after he cut them.he cut them on the high end of society and raised them on the middle class.REDITRIBUTION much like what bush did.Regan also bailed out the auto manufacturers.Regan was a good president but this god status he has built in the coserv party is misleading.Trickle down ECONOMICS has yet to trickle down
@chrisgalizia The economics did trickle down. Real median family income rose from $36,326 in 1982 to $40,890 in 1989. The percentage of households making $50,000 or more rose from 17.6% in 1980 to 23.5% in 1989. As a result, the percentage of households making less than $50,000 shrunk bc everyone moved up in the brackets. Real GDP grew at an annual rate of 3.96%, higher than the post-WWII avg 3.6%. He also decreased unemployment from 10.8% to 5.4%. Looks like it did trickle down.
the Democrat conservative who won PA 12 which has the most bearing on November won by running against liberalism and Obama, against Obamacare, and against cap and trade. Rahmbo politics, putting up conservative Democrats in all swing districts is the only way Democrats will not lose huge numbers of House seats this fall. Putting up liberals as the Democrat candidates for the fall will mean huge losses, please do.
@SlaughterWings Progressive policies toward universal healthcare: Single Payer, or at the VERY LEAST, public option. Neither of these were implemented or even seriously considered.
Matthew: 7:1-2 Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
And if that one's not to your liking, then try this one on for size:
Leviticus 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another mans wifethe adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
Rand Paul is against Civil Rights too so he can go fuck himself. I like him because it will be fun to see someone run against his crazy ass. Of course he's in KY so he may just win but still...
@SquallCloud He said he's for civil rights you douche. He's against the civil rights act. Which is very different. And he's only against part of the civil rights act. He agrees with about 9/10 parts of the civil rights act. He's just disagrees with the part that applies force on private business and private property owners. He's for the distinction and separation between the public and private sectors.
You and he value the ownership of property above a fair and stabalized society and I'm the douche? Well to be honest after talking it over with my sis, I've changed my tune a bit. It would be refreshing to have all white people not shackled by the expectation of propriety. When whites were more outwardly hostile blacks actually owned things and had institutions. integration was actually not all that great for blacks. Also libertarians don't even BELIEVE in a real public sector.
Who says "commie" non-ironically anymore? Also what in anything I said has anything to do with communism? Why am I even asking? Pfft you, don't know what that word means.
@SquallCloud He said he's for civil rights you douche. He's against the civil rights act. Which is very different. And he's only against part of the civil rights act. He agrees with about 9/10 parts of the civil rights act. He's just disagrees with the part that applies force on private business and private property owners. He's for the distinction and separation between the public and private sectors.
It's important to remember the facts that glenn beck shows america every night PROGRESSIVISM IS NAZISM!!! the nazis were a left wing movement that sought to destroy religion and create an atheist state (like progressives) sought to give the government the right to decide who lives and dies (like progressives) and take the country in a radical leftists direction opposed by the majority of germans (like proressives do here). A win for progressivism, is a lose for america.
@tehant1liberal "the nazis were a left wing movement that sought to destroy religion and create an atheist state"
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The only things wrong with your analysis are that the Nazis were a RIGHT wing movement led by a self-professed Christian who was raised as a Catholic, took Communion, served as an altar boy, and was never excommunicated, and that the NSDAP was supported by the vast majority of Germans, including the German Catholic and Protestant churches. No wonder you worship Beck.
@JerezJulio You're right, the federal government should use the force of law to make businesses use fair hiring practices. For example, i've noticed many businessmen hire big boobed secretaries, even if their typing skills are weak. That's not fair, and just like blacks or women or handicaps can sue, women with small boobies should be able to sue and have the force of law on their side. Ugly people too. You must hire a certain percentage of ugly people, lest you be sued or fined.
A- Its not universal healthcare. Still not what nearly the whole advanced world has in place for decades.
B- Did you read the reform bill?
Did you miss the part with over a dozen loopholes that allow corporations to do exactly what they were doing before but through different legal processes?
C- Did you miss the part where the health industry took part in writing it?
wtf u talkin bout dude. go wipe the stain some more n come back lol.
This is also called the fuck you vote. You run your campaign and whatever it is, I say fuck you. We will be seeing more of this as the establishment continues to try to implement their world policy for one government. Politicians may start out with decency but that all falls by the wayside as they cozy up to the trough.
I would go one further and say that the Oregon results favor progressives. Ron Wyden was renominated for his Senate seat. So, I'd say six for six, Cenk.
I hardly think progressives getting their preferred candidate constitutes a win for them. I'd rather eat one scoop of dog turd than two, but that doesn't mean I'll like it.
As a Nader voter I know exactly what you mean, but the Rand Paul win was a Republican primary. I'd love for Republicans to start voting for more libertarians because they do tend to be 40 or 50% progressive on the issues. It might leave some room for negotiation on some issues in the future if we have more libertarians representing the conservative wing. Of course I'd rarely ever vote for a Libertarian, but as far as Republicans voting for them I'm all for it.
Hey. Let's just make sure that zippity-do-dahs like Carly Fiorina don't end up in office. The last thing we need right now are corporatists come in thinking they're politicians.
Grayson is a Party machine hack. He's just an empty suit who would have voted pro-corporate straight down the line. Whatever talking points Mitch gave out would have been his talking points. At least Paul would occasionally break with the CorporaRepublicans. I'll still be voting for Conway, but I am glad that a complete zero like Grayson was beaten.
@hitheresunshine Yes, but the republican who replaces a democrat is also believing that he is 'moving forward'. I understand your point on definition, but my point is that the labels have vague meaning in the real world where politicians do the opposite of what they promised. Remember Obama's 'no lobbyists'(27), get out of Iraq(still there), end earmarks(more than ever), Guantanamo would be closed by January, 2010(still open), ...etc...etc...etc.
Watched Rand Paul on Maddow last night, shaky on most issues, I dont like him at all (I live in KY). Also, why the hell did Obama support Arlen Specter ?
it's better to have the wild card (emphasis on wild) Rand Paul than to have another Republican in there... Rand is a fucking idiot, but it would be AWESOME to have him basically take a vote away from the Reps
get yer liberull antics off of mah web page yu god damn nigra. god bless the republicuns we shall return the freedom. and you can chain up yer black ass back to africa!!!!!!
Finally, we're showing some true promise in America. I think Progressives are going to create their own grassroots movement against the teabaggers and they'll have a lot of firepower coming at those fringe nutjobs.
@GstateBALLER925 It's going to be a LOT harder. There is no progressive version of Koch Industries or FOX. I doubt very strongly that Olbermann will be massively promoting progressive rallies or crosscountry bus tours...
@dangerouslytalented Unlike the Republicans, propaganda simply isn't the way of the progressive/liberal. This is probably because they tend to be intelligent and free thinking, which is why they have so much trouble getting cohesion among voters and elected officials.
moderates and corporatists never get anything done, Im not surprised Democrats would elect the progressives/liberals. Maybe they don't agree completely with them, but I think people think progressives will be more aggressive and active in getting stuff done.
Rand and Ron Paul exposes most liberals and progressives. Both groups don't vote their talk. They say ending the unnecessary wars is of primary importance, which a Ron Paul would do without any doubt, but they do what Cenk does in this video, call them crazy, and vote for someone who probably won't end the war.
@megagagnon1 Simply withdrawing the troops and ending the war while trying to minimise the harm that simply withdrawing will cause are completely different things
@megagagnon1 Maybe, I don't know. But CERTAINLY getting rid of Blackwater and all the mercenary companies would be a crucial first step. They are costing a fortune per soldier, and their business plan only encourages them to make things worse deliberately, because mercenaries don't get paid unless a war is on.
@megagagnon1 I know, this whole fucking thing was a giveaway to Big Oil and Halliburton and mercenaries. The best option is the one which does least harm long term.
Bush led America into a vast trap. No matter what happens, America is in the shit for decades.
Conservative or Progressive, Democrat or Republican is not really what decides the election this time round. They just want a break from the establishment. But that makes the water even more murky over what the next congress will look like. I want to see two things: no war with Iran, and more action to stop climate change. I worry that these tea party people might be pro-war and global warming deniers.
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AHAHA!
man these crazyass looney delusional progressive FUCKBAGS still think that every humiliating defeat for that asshole Obamba means that Amercia is telling him to move further to the left.
LOL! these moonbats pulled the same bullshit spin routine when Scott Brown got elected.
HAHAHA!!!!!!
progressives=total looney psychotic insane asylum inmates living in la la land
@frictionRx5 you pobably don`t know the rightwingers international alliances and how far they go to back oneanother. rightwingers aren`t fun at all , they are ignorant , sexist, homophobic bullshitteers, go to Whiterussia if you think you can mock freedomloving idealists.
@frictionRx5 Conservatives =total looney psychotic insane asylum inmates living in la la land where war is good, oil spills are no problem, guns in every part of society is patriotic, everyone who is Arab and so much as comments on bad policy is a terrorist, spying on people through the patriot act is patriotic, having 59 senators means you can't get anything through, global warming doesn't exist, and that evolution is just a theory.
Yeah progressives are the ones living in la la land. XD
All of these progressives will lose to their GOP opponent in November for it is GOD's WORD and WILL! All of Sarah Palin's endorsed candidates will win their races and takeover Congress.
It's anti-the BAD incumbents. I haven't lived in OR for several years now but remembered oh yeah, they had a primary too (my family still lives there) and saw mention that Wyden was up in this primary. Go check because hey he's been in politics in OR as long as I can remember. He's mostly liked but hey If it's just anti the guys who've been around for ever as the news keeps telling me, then surely someone gave him a run for his money at least? Nope. He had two against him, but won 91%
Cenk missed one point. 150K voted additionally in Kentucky versus the retardicans. Come November, considering the primary which typically are lower turnout, the "energized" party couldn't even muster enough to outvote the Democratic nominee let alone the runner up in the primary.
I would love to see 2 new parties added to our political spectrum. Progressives and Tea Party. I may not agree with either of them all the time but haveing more options cannot hurt.
@ThorDog81 I'm with you! This would be a big step in the maturation and positive evolution of American political life. Two parties are not going to cut it in this day and age, we as a society are now too informed. Now people just need to vote!
obama didn't campaign for spector or lincoln...spector actually COMPLAINED that obama didn't help him....and lincoln openly ran her campaign AGAINST obama....all obama was trying to do was maintain those seats...he really doesn't care who won the primaries...despite the bullshit cenk says....in fact david axelrod and other whitehouse officials said that SESTAK would be the better candidate..and arlen spector whined about that...but cenk won't tell that FACT...because he has a narrative to spread
@SlaughterWings The Republicans are no longer real conservative. They have become neoconservative radicals, libertarian radicals, or christian fundamentalist radicals, or a mixture of those.
@GJNCA The point is that even among Kentucky Republicans, the slightly more liberal candidate won. Rand Paul is against the wars so compared to the establishment Republicans he's a pinko commie bastard.
@SubmarinerAndroid...rand paul thinks private businesses / schools have the right to racially segregate and discriminate against people....and he is AGAINST the civil rights bill....the paul's are the FURTHEST u can get from progressive...they are EXTREME right wing / libertarian corporatists
How's Senator Joe Sestak doing? Is he pushing any progressive legislation? Haha.
love2golf112 1 month ago
Granted, I agree almost 100% with progressive policies, a problem arises when they are view by the right in the same light that the Tea Party is viewed by the left. It may do them very well in the primary (e.g. Sestak, a liberal & Christine O'Donnell, a Tea Partier), but when it comes time to the big elections, especially state-wide elections, that may be a weak point for either side. Bearing that in mind, I do like seeing progressive victories, because those are victories for the country.
MrFolds24 9 months ago
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mrchiefofsinners 11 months ago
@MichaelSmathers Cenk is a socialist who will keep MSNBC's ratings in the toilet.
mrchiefofsinners 1 year ago
"Progressive" is just another way of saying "Socialist."
mrchiefofsinners 1 year ago
Yawn...
SkyCharter 1 year ago
I love the pretzel-logic of this Guy. ONLY on this channel can you watch such cognitive dissonance parlay with such self-congratulatory failure. This kind of display of critical thinking must be highly esteemed among your peers! YOU SIR, Are what every rainbow-loving, bunny-hugging SHILL could ever hope to be!
You should feel PROUD. - Spoken like a true socialist.
MichaelSmathers 1 year ago
@wtfjaftw
You need medication.
SquallCloud 1 year ago
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BLCalifornia 1 year ago
this guy is lieing
TheMikem1999 1 year ago
Well, even though I agree with Rand Paul on the issues that Cenk agrees with him on. He did get endorsements from Sarah Palin and incumbent senator Jim Bunning who are both part of the establishment.
bart11114 1 year ago
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BLCalifornia 1 year ago
@BLCalifornia IMPEACH ODUMBO
biggerturtle 1 year ago
Sestak is not that progressive. He has bad votes on his record like voting against the latest resolution that would have ended the Afghistan war.
captcrais101 1 year ago
btw, I still don't consider Rand Paul a win for Progressives!
Rosannasfriend 1 year ago
Obama never really backed Specter. Yeah, they sent Biden there a couple of times(out of obligation since he gave Dems their 59th vote), but Obama distanced his Admin in recent weeks and never personally came down to rally for him.
Rosannasfriend 1 year ago
Some of the Republicans commenting here are amusingly hypocritical. May Cenk be putting a positive spin on the elections, and can the INTERPRETATION of the results be biased? Sure. But these complaints are coming from the same Republicans whose bias is "oh no progressives can't possibly be winning... on anything!" If the senate were 100 liberals and 0 conservatives (as opposed to the majority the liberals have had for several years now), the Republicans would STILL delude themselves as winners.
PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD 1 year ago
Um Cenk Obama did not support the republican who switched to democrats in fact he abandoned him. He did not give a shit about that guy. Now Lincoln I never heard Obama endorsing her
RyanKeehn949 1 year ago
@RyanKeehn949 LOL. I just said the same thing!
Rosannasfriend 1 year ago
I like how Cenk is spinning these elections lol
bRizzle2009100 1 year ago
@bRizzle2009100 Really? Feel free to fact check, but I'm pretty sure the results of who won the primaries are fact - _ -.
PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD 1 year ago
@PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD Most of the people who won were opposed to the Obama agenda so u cant say that progressives won here. The country is overall opposed to the Obama agenda. And how can anyone say someone like Rand Paul is a win for progressives? He was backed by the Tea Party which is mainly conservative leaning people.
bRizzle2009100 1 year ago
@bRizzle2009100
Most progressives are opposed to Obama's agenda as well, mainly because his agenda is to keep the status qou as much as possible.
I will state Rand Paul is a win for progressives, as most of the issues he disagrees with progressives on are ones that have no political backing what so ever.
yellowkrux 1 year ago
@yellowkrux So progressives are opposed to universal health care, amnesty for illegals, strong financial regulations on wall street, high taxes on job creators, outlawing enhanced interrogation techniques, and growing government until the budget collapses the United States?
bRizzle2009100 1 year ago
@bRizzle2009100
Are you high? How high are you right now?
Half that shit Obama's against & the other half is Reagunomics IE bullshit used to justify class war against the working class.& What do you mean outlawing "enhanced interrogation techniques"? Thats already illegal under federal & international law.
Seriosly JOIN REALITY..
yellowkrux 1 year ago
@yellowkrux Obama and Congress didnt just pass a $2.5 trillion universal health care bill? And Reaganomics is used to justify class war against the working class? Class warfare originates from Marxism and is used by the left frequently, not the right. Obama signed a $862 billion stimulus package. Reagan would have NEVER done that. Thats Keynesian Economics not Reaganomics. Reagan would have never bailed out those corporations also. And enhanced interrogation techniques arent illegal, torture is.
bRizzle2009100 1 year ago
@bRizzle2009100 No class warfare doesn't originate from marxism, it existed before Marx, he simply defined it & claimed that it was an inevitable under capitalism (he may be correct)& it's usually used by the right as they're the only ones w/ the power to use it.& yes Reaganomics is nothing more than class warfare against the working class, one only has to look at the effects to see this. FYI the bail out was Bush's plan. I could go on but I get the feeling you don't care that you're wrong.
yellowkrux 1 year ago
@yellowkrux U actually havent proved anything. And the right is the only ones with the power to use it? So the Democratic party isnt in power right now? Or are they considered "right" too? And "Bush's plan" u are talking about is the TARP program which i was for at the time but now against. I was talking about the auto bailouts, AIG bailouts etc. This is what happens when u get govt and big business too intertwined. And capitalism isnt the problem, crony capitalism is.
bRizzle2009100 1 year ago
@bRizzle2009100 I never stated I proved anything. Nor did I state capitalism was the problem. I find it amusing that right wingnuts always pretend anyone who disagrees with them (IE believes in reality) is attacking capitalism. (FYI bank bailouts, bush's idea)
yellowkrux 1 year ago
@yellowkrux U said that all Reaganomics is is class warfare against the working class when in reality thats not true. The middle class grew more during the Reagan years than in any other recent decade. And the basic theory of Reaganomics is that govt needs to get out of the way of the private sector. Less govt is more efficient govt. I assume u were implying that u didnt like Reaganomics which would also imply u dont trust the private sector and that it needs govt intervention to be successful.
bRizzle2009100 1 year ago
@bRizzle2009100
Odd considering the average holdings of the middle class shrunk.
& No there were three basic parts of Reaganomics, one was the field policy from the 1890s called mule & sparrow (AKA trickle down) economics another was the elimination of the right of workers to organize( against international law) & the third was the elimination of OSHA resulting in a great increase in workplace accidents.
yellowkrux 1 year ago
@yellowkrux The percentage of households making less than $15,000 shrunk from 27.5% in 1980 to 25.3% in 1989. The percentage of households making between $15,000-$50,000 shrunk from 55% in 1980 to 51.1% in 1989. The reason why households with less than $50,000 income shrunk was bc the number of households who made more than $50,000 rose from 17.6% in 1980 to 23.5% in 1989. Thats further proved by real family median income rising from $36,326 in 1982 to $40,890 in 1989.
bRizzle2009100 1 year ago
@bRizzle2009100 You're literally calling Reaganomics a success because the average wage went up at a rate lower than inflation. The job growth under Reagen was horrible ,the only President to do worse since was W, then there's the fact that the poverty rate went up, then personal savings dropped from 8% to 6.5%. I could go on, but I doubt it would matter.
yellowkrux 1 year ago
@yellowkrux Well u said the average holdings of the middle class shrunk when thats not true. Households making less than $50,000 shrunk while households making more than $50,000 increased. The average family income increased, not decreased. And to say that job growth under Reagan was bad is simply misinforming. Unemployment peaked at 10.8% in '82 but went down every year since then and eventually decreased to 5.4% in '89. Over 20 million new jobs were created under Reagan.
bRizzle2009100 1 year ago
@bRizzle2009100 No it is true, holding isn't the same as income, holdings is the total net value of what one ones. Compensating for inflation the average income decreased. & The job growth rate under Reagen was 2.1 percent only one president since then has done worse & that was W. Once again I could go on but you don't care if what you believe is actually true.
yellowkrux 1 year ago
@yellowkrux And where do u get your "facts" from? Everything i have listed has come from the U.S. Census Bureau. The average family income increased, the % of households that made under $50,000 decreased while the % of households that made $50,000 or more increased, unemployment decreased dramatically, inflation decreased dramatically, Real GDP increased more than any other time in history, personal savings decreased bc ppl were spending money which explains the economic revival.
bRizzle2009100 1 year ago
@bRizzle2009100 And 'and' is a horrible way to start a paragraph. I get my facts from the census bureau& the department of labor statistics. Also poverty rate increased, & wages decreased once you compensate for inflation. Also you just defended your position by using an argument defeating your position? GDP did grow, as the average wage went down & poverty rate increased. Do you still want to claim it wasn't class warfare?
yellowkrux 1 year ago
@yellowkrux I said that personal savings might have decreased bc ppl went out and spent the money. Consumer spending is more than half of our GDP so it makes sense that if ppl would have saved their money instead of spending it then GDP growth would have not been as high. The facts are on my side. Unemployment, inflation both decreased dramatically, Real GDP grew more than any other decade, incomes for families & individuals increased greatly, the fact is the economy boomed during the 80's.
bRizzle2009100 1 year ago
@bRizzle2009100 GDP grew as did the poverty rate & wages shrunk (if you take into account inflation) in other words the country did better but the working class did worse. Are you still going to claim it wasn't a deliberate act of class warfare?
yellowkrux 1 year ago
@bRizzle2009100 This is a right wing red harring argument.Almost all democrats are in favor of capotolism.But the goverments job is to act like a ref between the private sector and the people.History has shown over and over again that when the gov fails to regulate the free market they will enevetably take advantage of the poeple.Are you in favor a a gov for the corprations by the corparations and of the corparations.
chrisgalizia 1 year ago
@bRizzle2009100 Regan also raised taxes after he cut them.he cut them on the high end of society and raised them on the middle class.REDITRIBUTION much like what bush did.Regan also bailed out the auto manufacturers.Regan was a good president but this god status he has built in the coserv party is misleading.Trickle down ECONOMICS has yet to trickle down
chrisgalizia 1 year ago
@chrisgalizia The economics did trickle down. Real median family income rose from $36,326 in 1982 to $40,890 in 1989. The percentage of households making $50,000 or more rose from 17.6% in 1980 to 23.5% in 1989. As a result, the percentage of households making less than $50,000 shrunk bc everyone moved up in the brackets. Real GDP grew at an annual rate of 3.96%, higher than the post-WWII avg 3.6%. He also decreased unemployment from 10.8% to 5.4%. Looks like it did trickle down.
bRizzle2009100 1 year ago
the Democrat conservative who won PA 12 which has the most bearing on November won by running against liberalism and Obama, against Obamacare, and against cap and trade. Rahmbo politics, putting up conservative Democrats in all swing districts is the only way Democrats will not lose huge numbers of House seats this fall. Putting up liberals as the Democrat candidates for the fall will mean huge losses, please do.
RuflessRecords 1 year ago
Only PINO's and LINO's are against surges in Afghanistan.
Tyler1337Admin 1 year ago
cenk for biggest moron ever!
lennydiko 1 year ago
These are not progressives. They are radicals Get your info correct
wateryskipper 1 year ago
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SallyAndreews 1 year ago
Good points Cenk.
And if there is only ONE thing EVER that we all can unite on, I hope it's voting out incumbents, regardless of party..
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago 2
The Paul's are bad for women. I would never vote for them!
SkreetGil 1 year ago
@SkreetGil The Paul's are fucking Nazi's. I would sooner vote for them with a sniper bullet in their heads then vote them into office.
Tyler1337Admin 1 year ago
cenk, this is the first time i disagree with you. rand paul is nuts. i would never vote for him.
zknix20 1 year ago
@zknix20 LOL. I know. This is Cenk's weakest video in a while.
Rosannasfriend 1 year ago
at least you know Rand is like his father and trust worthy decent people who are not corrupt.
Nibielari 1 year ago
@SlaughterWings Progressive policies toward universal healthcare: Single Payer, or at the VERY LEAST, public option. Neither of these were implemented or even seriously considered.
dangerouslytalented 1 year ago 7
hehe bad night for incumbents, McCain and Michael Bennett get thrown out in August, Specter better get a spot in the retirement home for Harry Reid
gilchris112 1 year ago 4
Great analysis.
IllumTheMessage 1 year ago 3
I've got two verses for you Mark Souder:
Matthew: 7:1-2 Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
And if that one's not to your liking, then try this one on for size:
Leviticus 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another mans wifethe adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
Religion ruins EVERYTHING.
DeSwiss 1 year ago
I would love to see every incumbent voted out of office. They are all the same.
EPRVa62 1 year ago 3
@EPRVa62 there's a handful (and probably literally a handful) that are good. haha
hzthereaper 1 year ago
if rand paul is anything like ron paul (i think they are related) I wouldn't mind voting for him.
theyouthis 1 year ago
Rand Paul is a tea-bagging douche
treid100182 1 year ago
Rand Paul is against Civil Rights too so he can go fuck himself. I like him because it will be fun to see someone run against his crazy ass. Of course he's in KY so he may just win but still...
SquallCloud 1 year ago
@SquallCloud He said he's for civil rights you douche. He's against the civil rights act. Which is very different. And he's only against part of the civil rights act. He agrees with about 9/10 parts of the civil rights act. He's just disagrees with the part that applies force on private business and private property owners. He's for the distinction and separation between the public and private sectors.
BobGeorgeAU 1 year ago
@BobGeorgeAU
You and he value the ownership of property above a fair and stabalized society and I'm the douche? Well to be honest after talking it over with my sis, I've changed my tune a bit. It would be refreshing to have all white people not shackled by the expectation of propriety. When whites were more outwardly hostile blacks actually owned things and had institutions. integration was actually not all that great for blacks. Also libertarians don't even BELIEVE in a real public sector.
SquallCloud 1 year ago
@SquallCloud Fuck the government and fuck you you ignorant moron
biggerturtle 1 year ago
@biggerturtle
Awww you fancy yourself a widdle anarchist do you? Well you enjoy your la la land, sweetie.
SquallCloud 1 year ago
@SquallCloud commie rant?
TheMikem1999 1 year ago
@TheMikem1999
Who says "commie" non-ironically anymore? Also what in anything I said has anything to do with communism? Why am I even asking? Pfft you, don't know what that word means.
SquallCloud 1 year ago
@SquallCloud He said he's for civil rights you douche. He's against the civil rights act. Which is very different. And he's only against part of the civil rights act. He agrees with about 9/10 parts of the civil rights act. He's just disagrees with the part that applies force on private business and private property owners. He's for the distinction and separation between the public and private sectors.
BobGeorgeAU 1 year ago
It's important to remember the facts that glenn beck shows america every night PROGRESSIVISM IS NAZISM!!! the nazis were a left wing movement that sought to destroy religion and create an atheist state (like progressives) sought to give the government the right to decide who lives and dies (like progressives) and take the country in a radical leftists direction opposed by the majority of germans (like proressives do here). A win for progressivism, is a lose for america.
tehant1liberal 1 year ago
@tehant1liberal ...are you being sarcastic?
supervegeta101 1 year ago
@tehant1liberal "the nazis were a left wing movement that sought to destroy religion and create an atheist state"
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The only things wrong with your analysis are that the Nazis were a RIGHT wing movement led by a self-professed Christian who was raised as a Catholic, took Communion, served as an altar boy, and was never excommunicated, and that the NSDAP was supported by the vast majority of Germans, including the German Catholic and Protestant churches. No wonder you worship Beck.
WolverineDeus 1 year ago 3
@tehant1liberal are you serious? you are insane.
doomsdayassault 1 year ago
I love the Tea Bagger, I am sorry Tea Party, beat.
Very cool.
Also Rand Paul want to repeals the Civil Right Act and give back the right to Segregate to business owners.
JerezJulio 1 year ago
@JerezJulio You're right, the federal government should use the force of law to make businesses use fair hiring practices. For example, i've noticed many businessmen hire big boobed secretaries, even if their typing skills are weak. That's not fair, and just like blacks or women or handicaps can sue, women with small boobies should be able to sue and have the force of law on their side. Ugly people too. You must hire a certain percentage of ugly people, lest you be sued or fined.
megagagnon1 1 year ago
nicely done Cenk
Erilis666 1 year ago
@SlaughterWings
Progressives ripped Obama to pieces over that lame excuse of a healthcare Bill.
So no , he is not progressive in any way shape or form.
selfsenter 1 year ago 3
@SlaughterWings
A- Its not universal healthcare. Still not what nearly the whole advanced world has in place for decades.
B- Did you read the reform bill?
Did you miss the part with over a dozen loopholes that allow corporations to do exactly what they were doing before but through different legal processes?
C- Did you miss the part where the health industry took part in writing it?
wtf u talkin bout dude. go wipe the stain some more n come back lol.
selfsenter 1 year ago
This is also called the fuck you vote. You run your campaign and whatever it is, I say fuck you. We will be seeing more of this as the establishment continues to try to implement their world policy for one government. Politicians may start out with decency but that all falls by the wayside as they cozy up to the trough.
rollsthepaul 1 year ago
I would go one further and say that the Oregon results favor progressives. Ron Wyden was renominated for his Senate seat. So, I'd say six for six, Cenk.
beeshor1 1 year ago
At the end of the day, let's not count unhatched chickens. This is only a primary.
upabittoolate 1 year ago
I hardly think progressives getting their preferred candidate constitutes a win for them. I'd rather eat one scoop of dog turd than two, but that doesn't mean I'll like it.
nomis101uk 1 year ago
@nomis101uk
As a Nader voter I know exactly what you mean, but the Rand Paul win was a Republican primary. I'd love for Republicans to start voting for more libertarians because they do tend to be 40 or 50% progressive on the issues. It might leave some room for negotiation on some issues in the future if we have more libertarians representing the conservative wing. Of course I'd rarely ever vote for a Libertarian, but as far as Republicans voting for them I'm all for it.
GretnaBlast 1 year ago
Hey. Let's just make sure that zippity-do-dahs like Carly Fiorina don't end up in office. The last thing we need right now are corporatists come in thinking they're politicians.
Hectotane 1 year ago
@Hectotane
The last thing we need right now are corporatists in politics PERIOD. XD
hitheresunshine 1 year ago
Tea Baggers will have ZERO affect except in Republican primary's and pure Republican districts.
Xenite227 1 year ago
Grayson is a Party machine hack. He's just an empty suit who would have voted pro-corporate straight down the line. Whatever talking points Mitch gave out would have been his talking points. At least Paul would occasionally break with the CorporaRepublicans. I'll still be voting for Conway, but I am glad that a complete zero like Grayson was beaten.
SocialDemocrats 1 year ago
WOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
wateryskipper 1 year ago
@wateryskipper When I read about Paul. forget it. He is just as bad as the reps and dems. Naw.. I
wateryskipper 1 year ago
'Progressive' is an empty and meaningless word.
RAMKING61 1 year ago
@RAMKING61 Fine. What IS a meaningFUL word?
upabittoolate 1 year ago
@RAMKING61
That really doesn't make much since. "Progressive" has the root word "Progress" in it. It denotes "moving forward", you know.
So, progressive medicine is empty and meaningless? What about progressive technology?
"Conservative" comes from, of course, the word "conserve". It denotes trying to preserve things as they are.
Moving streams flourish and have healthy ecosystems, whereas stagnant puddles breed, at best, mosquitoes.
Both words have meaning, and are far from empty.
hitheresunshine 1 year ago 3
@hitheresunshine Yes, but the republican who replaces a democrat is also believing that he is 'moving forward'. I understand your point on definition, but my point is that the labels have vague meaning in the real world where politicians do the opposite of what they promised. Remember Obama's 'no lobbyists'(27), get out of Iraq(still there), end earmarks(more than ever), Guantanamo would be closed by January, 2010(still open), ...etc...etc...etc.
RAMKING61 1 year ago
@RAMKING61 The use of the word Progressive is meaningless here....
wateryskipper 1 year ago
Watched Rand Paul on Maddow last night, shaky on most issues, I dont like him at all (I live in KY). Also, why the hell did Obama support Arlen Specter ?
TehNarrator 1 year ago
Maybe Rand Paul will tell Mc Connel to fuck off one of these times he wants all republicans to vote no again on something. That would be hilarious.
Calimantalkin 1 year ago
rand paul is the fucking man
savior02 1 year ago
Wonder how Obama and Rahm emanuel will take this news.
Still think caving to the right is a good political strategy?
3star2nr 1 year ago
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the filthy hogressives will lose in november you punk cenk moron
savior02 1 year ago
I'm glad to see the better choices winning across the board! Woo!
aaronsande 1 year ago
God I love the Young Turks
ncurran1987 1 year ago
it's better to have the wild card (emphasis on wild) Rand Paul than to have another Republican in there... Rand is a fucking idiot, but it would be AWESOME to have him basically take a vote away from the Reps
Craigipedia 1 year ago
The Republicans will lose seats in both the House and the Senate in the fall.
The Republican party is DEAD.
Richardgwm 1 year ago
@Richardgwm
get yer liberull antics off of mah web page yu god damn nigra. god bless the republicuns we shall return the freedom. and you can chain up yer black ass back to africa!!!!!!
REPUBLlCANTEAPARTY 1 year ago
@REPUBLlCANTEAPARTY get your white ass back to Europe son.
MVP15420 1 year ago
Booyakasha
I wonder how long it will take the president to ignore this and go further to the right
TheFunkyDomination 1 year ago
Finally, we're showing some true promise in America. I think Progressives are going to create their own grassroots movement against the teabaggers and they'll have a lot of firepower coming at those fringe nutjobs.
GstateBALLER925 1 year ago
@GstateBALLER925 It's going to be a LOT harder. There is no progressive version of Koch Industries or FOX. I doubt very strongly that Olbermann will be massively promoting progressive rallies or crosscountry bus tours...
dangerouslytalented 1 year ago
@dangerouslytalented Unlike the Republicans, propaganda simply isn't the way of the progressive/liberal. This is probably because they tend to be intelligent and free thinking, which is why they have so much trouble getting cohesion among voters and elected officials.
jstutz2003 1 year ago
@GstateBALLER925 REAL progressives, not fake ones. Let's hope
locololonumber2 1 year ago
lets hope these people can make some real difference before they are in the pockets too.
kk207 1 year ago
moderates and corporatists never get anything done, Im not surprised Democrats would elect the progressives/liberals. Maybe they don't agree completely with them, but I think people think progressives will be more aggressive and active in getting stuff done.
dietsnapple89 1 year ago
@dietsnapple89 The progerssives are getting more involved at the local party level, which is why they are winning the primaries.
They are taking over, just like the christians took over the Republicans in the 70s and 80s
dangerouslytalented 1 year ago
this guy is going to turn establishment so fast it will make cenk shit his pants. get real
wubbadubdub 1 year ago
No need to apologize, Cenk. They are teabaggers. Call 'em for what they are.
MrSmartBob 1 year ago
Rand and Ron Paul exposes most liberals and progressives. Both groups don't vote their talk. They say ending the unnecessary wars is of primary importance, which a Ron Paul would do without any doubt, but they do what Cenk does in this video, call them crazy, and vote for someone who probably won't end the war.
megagagnon1 1 year ago
@megagagnon1 Simply withdrawing the troops and ending the war while trying to minimise the harm that simply withdrawing will cause are completely different things
dangerouslytalented 1 year ago
@dangerouslytalented withdrawing the troops, the sooner the better, is the best we can do. staying there for another day or a year won't help anyone.
megagagnon1 1 year ago
@megagagnon1 Maybe, I don't know. But CERTAINLY getting rid of Blackwater and all the mercenary companies would be a crucial first step. They are costing a fortune per soldier, and their business plan only encourages them to make things worse deliberately, because mercenaries don't get paid unless a war is on.
dangerouslytalented 1 year ago
@dangerouslytalented Read smedley butler's "war is a racket". It's a quick read, google it.
megagagnon1 1 year ago
@megagagnon1 I know, this whole fucking thing was a giveaway to Big Oil and Halliburton and mercenaries. The best option is the one which does least harm long term.
Bush led America into a vast trap. No matter what happens, America is in the shit for decades.
dangerouslytalented 1 year ago
@dangerouslytalented politicians are sock puppets for the rich
megagagnon1 1 year ago
@megagagnon1 The Ronulans are enemies of the Federation.
WolverineDeus 1 year ago
@WolverineDeus Romulans? You are lost in space methinks
megagagnon1 1 year ago
@megagagnon1 NOT "Romulans" -- RoNulans, i.e., followers of Ron Paul.
WolverineDeus 1 year ago 2
@WolverineDeus thank u i've never heard that term before. Ronulans rule!
megagagnon1 1 year ago
Conservative or Progressive, Democrat or Republican is not really what decides the election this time round. They just want a break from the establishment. But that makes the water even more murky over what the next congress will look like. I want to see two things: no war with Iran, and more action to stop climate change. I worry that these tea party people might be pro-war and global warming deniers.
Nebiros21 1 year ago 2
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AHAHA!
man these crazyass looney delusional progressive FUCKBAGS still think that every humiliating defeat for that asshole Obamba means that Amercia is telling him to move further to the left.
LOL! these moonbats pulled the same bullshit spin routine when Scott Brown got elected.
HAHAHA!!!!!!
progressives=total looney psychotic insane asylum inmates living in la la land
EPIC FAIL!
frictionRx5 1 year ago
@frictionRx5
You sound completely insane..
sdrawkcabgnipytmi 1 year ago 2
@frictionRx5 Hey who made that computer you're typing on, or evolved the living standards? Oh yeah, progressives.
MarcusKiner 1 year ago 2
@MarcusKiner Pay no heed to frictionRx5. They always troll around in these video clips.
Koss42 1 year ago
Dude you're not sounding terribly sane yourself lately. Maybe you should have that movie-villain laugh checked out some time ;)
megamarsvin 1 year ago
@frictionRx5 you pobably don`t know the rightwingers international alliances and how far they go to back oneanother. rightwingers aren`t fun at all , they are ignorant , sexist, homophobic bullshitteers, go to Whiterussia if you think you can mock freedomloving idealists.
Realizalize 1 year ago
@frictionRx5 Conservatives =total looney psychotic insane asylum inmates living in la la land where war is good, oil spills are no problem, guns in every part of society is patriotic, everyone who is Arab and so much as comments on bad policy is a terrorist, spying on people through the patriot act is patriotic, having 59 senators means you can't get anything through, global warming doesn't exist, and that evolution is just a theory.
Yeah progressives are the ones living in la la land. XD
Jamez773 1 year ago 3
@frictionRx5 Do you ever Say ANYTHING relevent, or do you just throw around insults a five-year-old would find stupid?
Also, use capitalization when starting new sentences.
GarlicPudding 1 year ago 2
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All of these progressives will lose to their GOP opponent in November for it is GOD's WORD and WILL! All of Sarah Palin's endorsed candidates will win their races and takeover Congress.
ecwaufisxtreme 1 year ago
@ecwaufisxtreme Don't you get tired of being wrong? Lol.
restlesspride666 1 year ago 2
@ecwaufisxtreme llol
neons99 1 year ago
Arlen looked so surprised when he lost. I almost felt bad for him.
Cenk: It's Establishment, not Exstablishment. :)
Love
matthewtaylorbrown 1 year ago
randy paul is ron pauls dad thats y he belongs in the loony bin fuck that i dont like that he is twisted as all hell
kazooga1234 1 year ago 3
It's anti-the BAD incumbents. I haven't lived in OR for several years now but remembered oh yeah, they had a primary too (my family still lives there) and saw mention that Wyden was up in this primary. Go check because hey he's been in politics in OR as long as I can remember. He's mostly liked but hey If it's just anti the guys who've been around for ever as the news keeps telling me, then surely someone gave him a run for his money at least? Nope. He had two against him, but won 91%
DelusionalAngel 1 year ago
Cenk missed one point. 150K voted additionally in Kentucky versus the retardicans. Come November, considering the primary which typically are lower turnout, the "energized" party couldn't even muster enough to outvote the Democratic nominee let alone the runner up in the primary.
sidplicity 1 year ago
I would love to see 2 new parties added to our political spectrum. Progressives and Tea Party. I may not agree with either of them all the time but haveing more options cannot hurt.
ThorDog81 1 year ago 4
@ThorDog81 I'm with you! This would be a big step in the maturation and positive evolution of American political life. Two parties are not going to cut it in this day and age, we as a society are now too informed. Now people just need to vote!
Kravis63 1 year ago
screw democrats, screw republicans, lets see the libertarian and progressive parties take over.
sheepwshotguns 1 year ago 3
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AHAHA!
young turk is such a delusional fucking leftwing idiot.
Obamba got CRUSHED yesterday cuz America has rejected his looney liberal views.
if Americans aren't going for Obamba's idiocy then they certainly aren't gonna support these far far leftwing communist progressive SCUM!
HAHAHA!!!!!!!
another young turk EPIC FAIL!
frictionRx5 1 year ago
did you watch the whole video?
klasco1991 1 year ago
@frictionRx5 sounds like someone is in denal,
snowwolf7777 1 year ago
@snowwolf7777 theres no point in discussing common sense and reason with friction. none.
sidplicity 1 year ago
@sidplicity goodpoint
snowwolf7777 1 year ago
@frictionRx5 No, because they rejected the fact he was not liberal ENOUGH.
dangerouslytalented 1 year ago
@frictionRx5
Do you like ate some pizza?
mangaas 1 year ago
obama didn't campaign for spector or lincoln...spector actually COMPLAINED that obama didn't help him....and lincoln openly ran her campaign AGAINST obama....all obama was trying to do was maintain those seats...he really doesn't care who won the primaries...despite the bullshit cenk says....in fact david axelrod and other whitehouse officials said that SESTAK would be the better candidate..and arlen spector whined about that...but cenk won't tell that FACT...because he has a narrative to spread
jshooper 1 year ago
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@jshooper HAHA!
then why did Obamba try to buy off Sestak by bribing him with a White House job if he wouldn't run against Specter?
Obamba and Axelrod are filthy liars
frictionRx5 1 year ago
@frictionRx5 Keep "thinking" that way, teabagger---PLEASE! Lol!
kurd55 1 year ago
@frictionRx5 He though Sestak was the best man for the job.
dangerouslytalented 1 year ago
@dangerouslytalented HAHA!
is that how you ozzies describe illegal bribes?
YOU FAIL!
frictionRx5 1 year ago
@SlaughterWings The Republicans are no longer real conservative. They have become neoconservative radicals, libertarian radicals, or christian fundamentalist radicals, or a mixture of those.
dangerouslytalented 1 year ago 5
@GJNCA The point is that even among Kentucky Republicans, the slightly more liberal candidate won. Rand Paul is against the wars so compared to the establishment Republicans he's a pinko commie bastard.
SubmarinerAndroid 1 year ago
@SubmarinerAndroid...rand paul thinks private businesses / schools have the right to racially segregate and discriminate against people....and he is AGAINST the civil rights bill....the paul's are the FURTHEST u can get from progressive...they are EXTREME right wing / libertarian corporatists
jshooper 1 year ago 2
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@SlaughterWings
"you do get that republicans are moderates of the right" They shoved out all the moderates in the 90s, seeking ideological purity.
"obama ran as democratic "
The terms Democrat.
"and has been supporting progressive leftist stuff"
Name one position Obama has followed through on that the Republicans widely opposed before 2006?
"You really need to do a little research then "
Back at ya.
yellowkrux 1 year ago
@SlaughterWings He is far more centrist than what you are describing. Obama is very weaksauce on MOST of those issues.
dangerouslytalented 1 year ago
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progressive = communist
MediaLynxLLC 1 year ago
@MediaLynxLLC i wish...
Iker888 1 year ago
@MediaLynxLLC Call me a communist, I accept the label happily.
SubmarinerAndroid 1 year ago 3
@MediaLynxLLC republican conservative = liars and thieves
LittleBigB 1 year ago