The ZR1 and Z06 cheat at the ring. They use super slicks which are an optional buy for owners track days. The GTR`s time was set on road legal tyres in the semi wet. On the Top Gear track ( slicks banned ) the GTR time is 1min 17.8. The ZR1 time is 1min 20.4 ( a whopping 17 places below the GTR ) The Z06 time is 1min 22.4 ( a staggering 27 places down from the GTR. With all 3 on road legals the GTR distroys both Vettes and is an amazing 500 lb heavier and 153 bhp less than the ZR1. GTR is king
@andwestuk Lol you ricers are pathetic. The Z06 and ZR1 were re-ran after Porsche claimed the GT-R, Z06, and ZR1 used racing slicks. The corvette's got inspected by track officials, and ran within the times that were originally recorded, proving they didn't cheat. But guess what! Nissan refused to officially re-run the GTR. Weird huh? And topgear is extremely anti-American, they even had the TVR and R8 beat the ZR1, which is 100% bull crap.
I'm not much of a dragracing fan myself but even I was offended at these twits laughing like 9 year old girls about someone dying at the track. Matt is a douche beyond. Measure but he had a point "I'm sure if you drag raced in one of those you'd have shat all over your drawars" basically saying don't speak about something you know nothing about. I hardly liked matt dbag farah at first but now I hardly like him at all and the dbag to his right sounds like another stupid ass bench racer.
@The0rangePanda Why is he a douchebag? Because he said the truth? Fanboys cant accept that ZR1 was driven on track tires, with racing fuel, with racing setup, by a prof. driver, on closed track? (unlike other cars on lap board) Come on people....be realistic. Those videos from chevrolet are COMMERCIALS. I repeat, COMMERCIALS. Those videos are made to trick naive people who jump into conclusions and dont use their brains, they just believe everything they see and dont ever think.
@The0rangePanda I guess being objective, realistic, using your brain and going deeper into the issues makes you a douche-bag in america... and believing everything you're served, trusting a car manufacturer when he give you a review of HIS OWN car, makes you smart...eh?
i got a sub 7:20 time with the ACR (stock with sport soft. same as the real world record), and i thought i sucked at that game. 9 minutes is like.... a civic in reverse. anyway! why the **** would a performance car be judged on how it looks in front of a resteraunt? wow this guy is dumb. buy a veryon and put a cappucino engine in it if thats what you like. you just wasted $2million, but hey! it looks nice. idiot....
who cares about track time. make the car right. make it last. and stop putting cheap ass china matterials on them. just make it look like what you price it for. dont try to sale it for 100k and the interior look like is from a kia. a civic as better material then a corvette. and second car lover love cars no matter what is there track time. because of the look and what the car represents. i bought a bmw no just cuz of is the ultimate driving machine. i bought cuz is safe for my kids.
the guy on the right is a complete twat, does have a decent opinion on anything at all. someone dies during a motorsport event so they limit some parts which is what they should do while they investigave the accident and that twat sits giggling at it. cunt
Okay... I thought I'd hear some argument, but the only thing I heard :
- Corvette is faster ? I don't care, I like the GTR most. Next topic ?
Thanks for playing.
The Nissan is glued to the road and the ZR1 is a rocket full of torque. These are two different way of seeing sportscars. I like both. I don't need to compare them.
Wow, what a pair of faggots. I hope neither of you ever make anything of your lives. Go back to matchbox cars where you douchebags belong. You clearly don't have a clue.
more than likely both of he GAYS cant drive a ZR-1 and love automatics, kind of hard to take either of u seriously, ZR-1 ran stock tires, and one try vs the GTR with a pro driver, had to change the tires and multiple runs and power tweeks
"They don't ban lughters because a volcano erupted?" Nice Analogy. Hey dipshit that's why amercan racing is a spectator sport. Even tho i live in canada and only go to drag strips at least they can walk around at the track, talk to drivers, meet pit crews and watch the ENTIRE race. Granted no where near as exciting as watching F1 who the fuck wants to sit in a seat for 3 hours to see 3 percent of a race track. Pompos arrogant dicks who know nothing about motorsport should get the fuck out.
I hate that over-fed, leaping gnome and his fake laughter
The only thing I learned from his vids is he doesn't like anything. He ain't worth my time, try to give some information about the topic instead of acting so foolish
what a piece of shit that alex roy is. If you play guitar but don't have your own band then you should just play rock band...?? go shove a pole up you ass and learn to play an instrument.
I will take the ZR1 over the gtr. Its a better pure car - that stomps the new porsche twin turbo go look up Andy Bell on the track in these two cars and he loves the zr1. Also, I heard the ls7(Z06) is a better motor, and the suspension on the zr1 and carbon brakes is much better. I say - z06 invest the difference(40k) into the z06 with brakes and supercharger, a few cg lowering mods and suspension upgrade - you have a much better car for the same price. Gtr is pretty ugly by the way
Holy hell this Alex Roy guy is so narrow minded and one sided. For fuck sakes whats wrong with people today?. Look at both sides of everything before you talk. I bet that guy wouldn't have the balls to get in a Drag Car. As well as that SLR, I mean sure its not my favorite but seriously. Just imedieatly attack, like WTF?
@TheJohnnyb79 I agree, i have forza 3 and beat it with the zr1 in 6:57... really 6:58 but i refuse to round up. xD the gtr time i got really close but i really cant stand AWD in video games.
Love how people on here are saying they would take the GTR over zr1 because its better on the track. 2 things 1st off Yeah duh obviously guys thats why the zr1 beat the GTR on Nurburgring and 2nd off yeah most you guys are going to to go the the track to race..... umm no you will do way more street racing. Either way zr1 wins
if i was ask to choose between GT-R or ZR1 i take the GT-R but if its possible id take both. High entry speed for corners/ fast cornering GT-R , Drag race and fast acceleration + top speed ZR1, but alex roy, fck you bitch! ehem but honestly in the video they just sound like those kids whining in the comment box in the ZR1 and GT-R nurburgring videos.
Its easy to criticize and make fun of 8000HP 300mph race cars when you clearly lack the balls to even get in one. Drag racing is just a simpler form of racing. It take tremendous skill and gall to keep 8000HP straight and if you doubt that fact go ahead and hop in one.
This of course dose not diminish other forms of racing, but to get up there in front of a camera and criticize something you're too afraid to even attempt yourself is cowardly.
@indiana183 Matt Farah has said he hates the seats, steering wheel. He actually has a C5 Z06 with lots of mods. GTR is cool, but the ZR1 for the speed and sound, I would take it over the GTR. ZR1 also looks more exotic.
@laveth I was just quoting alex roy. But he still makes a good point. Sure, the ZR1 is a fast car, but it isn't as epic and definately not as reliable as the gtr. But it does look better!
Fuck the marines, fuck the air force, fuck the army, I would never devote my life to that bullshit. These advertisements are whack as fuck. If anything, I want to see a car commercial.
LOL, this Alex Roy dude is hilarious. I like this guy.
Of course the cars are on race tires and are race tunes... I don't doubt it. I DON'T trust any manufacturers claims... they're lying.
@SCHIZOPHRENlC Hey man eat shit and get the fuck outa America, i gotta baby brother thats in the Armed Services, and if it wasnt for people like him, your stupid inbred ass would still be a hard spot on your degenerate dads socks under the fuckin matress...Fuckin Tool
@SinistrChevy You gotta baby brother blah blah blah, WAAHHHHHHH, somebody call the wambulance, go cry in your corner somewhere else. Nobody cares, you sound like a complete pussy.
@SCHIZOPHRENlC hey man im in texas any time you wanna get your ass stomped, i aint some keyboard warrior was sayin you need to hold some respect for those that fight for us ya fuckin lil dickhead
Are you fucking serious? Alex Roy's best arguments are that people debating lap standardization can't spell and can't afford the cars in question? What an imbecile! While I agree that lap times aren't a terribly serious question when buying a sports car, this does not nullify the question of honesty.
The Stig is my benchmark of choice, but with Top Gear quickly coming to the end of its run, we will soon need a new standard of measuring race-worthiness; the Ring seems like a good idea.
bald guy with glasses in his unbuttoned shirt. hahaha FAG! who owns 3 old BMWs. FAG! and oh yea, in-car internet is an awesome idea. just because your brain cant handle multiple spoke steering wheels and radio doesn't mean other people can't. you dont like drag racing because youre a pussy. mercedes mclaren is an amazing car. you will never make it anywhere in car reviews find another profession.
The Ring should be a Benchmark and Sabine Schmitz and Tim Schrick should be the drivers. Both of them in identical cars with an offset of 30 seconds. And the average should be the first of the relevant times. The second average should be a "wet" lap, if possible. That'd be more significant than "some" car with racing tyres and racing fuel and (therefor) optimized CCU ...
Alex Roy... hands down the biggest douche bag "car lover" I've ever seen in my entire life. I emphasize "car lover" for the simple reason that he is the opposite.
These are track cars we are talking about. I think they should have a track standard. I personaly would like to know what these cars do also. Before 1998 I would probally side with you guys on the gtr, but I feel GM builds the best cars these days.
@mahmahmonkey What? subaru's racing heritage lies in rally, how many rally cars dont use awd? As per the gtr being awd, think 911 turbo, which, if you arent aware is the reason all gtr's were created.
Nissan has always wanted to create a car to compete with the 911s.
simple, to standardize.. make the same car race 3 different times, 3 different weather (rain, cold weather, hotweather) then find the median of all the 3 laptimes and there is your standardization.
Nurburgring Times tell NOTHING ..... its so much on the Driver and his or her Experience on the Track ..... If u ever been to the Ring ull see Porsches (all kinds ) getting hardly owned by some Stripped E30
It's funny to watch when they pit the new Lambo mercialago? i think thats how it's spelled anyway with the lambo being AWD, they let the lambo go first onto the track but the Zr1 ended up pretty much pushing the Lambo around the corners..Look up the vid for yourself if you don't believe.
I'm sorry the guy on the right is fucking pissing me off. I can't watch this anymore. Bald idiot thinks he knows everything! He's missing so much he thinks he knows how cars should be like! I know that everyone has an opinion but this faggot (extremely sorry about the language) is just plain arrogant.
Do these retards even research things before they talk about it. NHRA shortened the top fuel and funny car lengths because not all the tracks are long enough to stop a car going 325+ mph. Alex doesn't know an exhaust clamp from a muffler bearing. But what do you expect from a yuppie that owns 3 bmw's.
Having magazine editors run cars all out on the 'ring is giving them a death sentence. The drivers that run fast there have done lots of laps. Long, fast track + inexperience = death.
Wow both these guys suck about everything car related and the sad thing is I've actually met the idiot Farah at Grand Prix New York several times, struggling to fit his fat body into his tiny race suit, ew - buy a bigger size Matt or use the larger blue ones available.
And the bald idiot on the right, oh my goodness he is a disgrace to anything that has ever been considered a car.
Seriously, I used to be a BIG BIG import fan. But one day I had do a research project on how an engine works and I learned the truth.
Most imports suck my fucking balls, ever since the ZR1 came out all I hear bitching are the faggots who are love with the GTR.
You have to be a huge fucking fag to choose a GTR over a ZR1 anyday. Seriously you have to be a fucking homo to get a GTR looking char compared to the ZR1 you guys have never driven a ZR1 that's why you talk.
oh and i dont really care if they shaved tires and used racing fuel in that zr1...the car is badass without those things and could still kill it on "the ring"
companies use it as a racing benchmark not a grocery-store-trip selling point plus im sure those guys wouldnt have picked the gtr if it had not beat the bugatti veyron in the nurburghring trial by about 15 seconds. i like the nissan alot...but this is a world competition...put a notch on the belt of the americans alright? haha
the mclaren slr "speedster (more commonly known as the sterling moss) is a tribute car to a legendary british racer and his career by the name sterling moss and more directly to his record in mille miglia...so if the guy on the right had any actual knowledge of racing heritage instead of just busting on other types of racing and relating them to "getting a manicure", then he would realize this car is made for celebratory reasons in honor of a racing legend...good joke guy
i always knew that the ZR1 nurburgring times were fake. Race gas and race tuned and using shaved tires just to get a 7:26 which the GTR gets the same time with 100 less HP and 600 pounds heavier. Shame on you GM.
@2ndtonone1000 Good thing you listened.; he said BOTH are fake. Just because you can't get over the ZR1 beating your fantasy GTR doesn't mean it's okay to excuse the other side of the story.
@ToXiN06 I figured both were fake. I mean these companies will do anything to sell their product. An when you watch the video the ZR1 has alot of understeering problems while doing the lap and most of the other cars that got better times were damn near flawless like the Enzo or the GT2 RS or the Maserati and Gumpert. Its not easy to get a 7:18 let alone a 7:26 and many super cars even the CCX failed and only got a 7:32
@2ndtonone1000 True or not, if you watch all the reviews on the ZR1, its handling and all around performance blows all its competitors away (considered they're within a reasonable price range); the ZR1 would own a GTR no matter how you look at it.
Dude spec for spec the GTR does 0-60 in 3.2 seconds the 1/4 in 11.8 seconds thats 5 tenths of a seconds slower then the ZR1 11.3 an does the nuremburg track 7:26 same as the GTR whether it cheated or not its still posted. The GTR weighs 600lbs more and has a 150 hp disadvantage an ties up the 110k ZR1.An with 15k of upgrades on that GTR you're doing things like this. Bugatti vs Nissan GT-R 35
@2ndtonone1000 You drop money into plenty of vehicles and it will beat another, are these two comparisons stock or is one stock and one modded? Okay then, the debate is a ZR1 vs a GTR, not a stock ZR1 vs a modded out the ass GTR (hence what all your links show).
@ToXiN06 No the race with the ZR1 vette is a modified lingenfelter that ran in the Moscow Unlimited. So the one link i sent you wast modfied ZR1 vs modified GTR. An stock for stock they run damn near comparable numbers the ZR1 runs 5 tenths of a second faster in the quatermile 11.3 vs GTR 11.8. Stock they both do 0-60 in 3.2 and the GTR is 600 pounds heavier with a back seat and 30k less and this is stock for stock
@ToXiN06 I only showed you the modified GTR because that shows with 15k or 90k what this car is capable of doing and you still come up 15k less then a 110k ZR1 and you have over 800hp. How do you not see the advantage here of buying a GTR over a ZR1. 110k gets you a car that can barely beat out a stock GTR stock. I add 15k to the GTR i'm beating Bugatti Veyrons an im still cheaper then you by 15k under the stock price of a ZR1
@2ndtonone1000 Again, stock vs stock, not mod vs stock. I could show you videos of a modded Challenger vs a GT-R with light mods getting beaten/neck-to-neck for a fraction of the price and that's not even CLOSE to the same class. People would compare a GT-R to a ZR1 and vice-versa but not a Challenger to a GT-R and still, mod the Challenger up and it'll beat the GT-R. Mod any car and you can beat something more expensive, the question is, do you want to drive an ugly box or a badass 'Vette.
@ToXiN06 First of all the GTR is not ugly and it basically looks like a hybrid G35 coupe. The Vette has looked the same for the past 20 years only recently getting rid of those ugly flip up headlights and copying a more Ferrari front end look. An i'm going stock for stock and so far you haven't showed me anything by the numbers that shows why someone would buy a ZR1. Both 0-60mph is 3.2. Both does the 1/4mile times in ll seconds the ZR1 just does it 5 tenths of a second faster
@ToXiN06 First of all stock for stock the ZR1 fails to clearly beat out the ZR1. I only threw the mod thing in because with the extra 30k you save on not purschasing a ZR1 you can throw 15k into a GTR and have a 1000hp super car that can out run a Bugatti Veyron. In the ZR1 even though yeah any car can be modded to beat any car but for the price why would i pay 110k for a ZR1 with 600hp and turn around to mod it up as a supercar which is going to cost me at least 15k or more. GTR 95k total
@2ndtonone1000 I get where you're going with the modding factor, but when you're buying cars this expensive, it's not about their 'potential' it's about how they come, they're already suppose to be 'supercars'. A GTR and a ZR1 are only neck and neck until like 80MPH, after that the ZR-1 is gone. It does 0-100 1.5s fast than the GTR and that .5s in a 1/4 trap is a lot, at 120 which is what the GTR trapped, that's 88 feet in that .5s that the ZR-1 is ahead...that's nearly the ZR1s 60-0 stop
@ToXiN06 I had an old R 33 when i lived in Japan and that thing was unbelieveable. Now it was a pain in the ass to work on because you had no space what so ever but the reward was when you got everything in place and tuned it up and it didn't disappoint. I had my doubts like alot of people and never thought much of tuner cars or japanese cars period except for the bikes. But now i'm a true believer and tuner cars have unbelieveable potential.
@ToXiN06 thats fine but if you ever do you won't be disappointed. I think the Japs are better with force induction engines then alot of car companies. Damn near everything or ever vehicle in Japan is force inducted. I don't expect a Japanese company to be good at makinga big block naturally aspirated engine because thats not their fortay. Just like i don't see american car companies being able to make tuner cars like the Japs although they do make kick ass turbo diesel engine trucks.
@2ndtonone1000 When a vehicle is designed for tops speeds of 205 and 195, it's more than just a turn, it's about speed on those straights and on any straight, that ZR1 is gone and on the turns, it's right on-par with that car. Personally, I wouldn't mind spending that extra money if I was going to buy a GTR or ZR1, just because I don't like the GTR bodies, they look like they sat in water too long and expanded in my opinion.
@ToXiN06 Well taking out the factor you don't like the body of the GTR thats fine. But the performance numbers don't lie. An whatever little advantage the ZR1 has to beat it out its suppose to because it cost over 30k more in base price. But the GTR and ZR1 is a super car but the GTR is a tuner car pure and simple. If you owned both cars believe me you'd be more into the GTR then the ZR1 because everytime you put something on that GTR its going to shock the shit out of you with performance.
@ToXiN06 All i'm saying is stock for stock the ZR1 barely beats out the GTR on paper and i do mean barely an thats a car with twice the displacement with a supercharger with 100hp and 100ft lbs of torque advantage stock for 110k. Now all i'm saying is with 95k not only can i but a GTR for around 79k put 15k of upgrades and lets say out the door with tax on the base price i'm at 98k fully modified 800 to 1000hp GTR. For 110k you're stock with a 638hp car thats not modified.
@ToXiN06 The whole point to my arguement is that the GTR for the price is the better deal because not only does it has comparable numbers to a stock ZR1 that you payed 110k for. But for 30k you save from not buying a ZR1 you have only 15k to put into that GTR to turn into a total beast which stock it already is already and you have a back seat to boot. Why else do you think the GTR got Motor Trend car of the year for 2009.
@ToXiN06 the GTR is a tuners car so you're not going to buy it and leave it stock unless you're not going to be doing anything with it except coming and going. But most people that buy this car know of the unlocked potential and how god damn amazing this car is when you put upgrades on it. People don't know alot about the GTR but do a bit of research and there is a reason they call it Godzilla and the nemisis to the old MKIV supra. Just look at the Moscow Unlimited Videos of the GTR Switzer 800
@2ndtonone1000 Nah, I never said it didn't have potential, little Jap cars have always been ridiculous when it comes to potential, but even though you'll be forking out an extra 25 or so for that ZR1, if you invested into the ZR1 what you'd invest in a GTR it'd still be a completely different vehicle. But when it comes to these "supercars" now-a-days, it's all about preference, they're all so close it's just what you want to look at when you're sitting in it or looking in your garage.
gm fucking sucks face it u pussy fags.lol
Tupples1 3 days ago
The ZR1 and Z06 cheat at the ring. They use super slicks which are an optional buy for owners track days. The GTR`s time was set on road legal tyres in the semi wet. On the Top Gear track ( slicks banned ) the GTR time is 1min 17.8. The ZR1 time is 1min 20.4 ( a whopping 17 places below the GTR ) The Z06 time is 1min 22.4 ( a staggering 27 places down from the GTR. With all 3 on road legals the GTR distroys both Vettes and is an amazing 500 lb heavier and 153 bhp less than the ZR1. GTR is king
andwestuk 1 month ago 2
@andwestuk Lol you ricers are pathetic. The Z06 and ZR1 were re-ran after Porsche claimed the GT-R, Z06, and ZR1 used racing slicks. The corvette's got inspected by track officials, and ran within the times that were originally recorded, proving they didn't cheat. But guess what! Nissan refused to officially re-run the GTR. Weird huh? And topgear is extremely anti-American, they even had the TVR and R8 beat the ZR1, which is 100% bull crap.
TiconderogaX 3 weeks ago
I'm not much of a dragracing fan myself but even I was offended at these twits laughing like 9 year old girls about someone dying at the track. Matt is a douche beyond. Measure but he had a point "I'm sure if you drag raced in one of those you'd have shat all over your drawars" basically saying don't speak about something you know nothing about. I hardly liked matt dbag farah at first but now I hardly like him at all and the dbag to his right sounds like another stupid ass bench racer.
toyoracing89 1 month ago
alex roy is a joke
lucyk0486 1 month ago
gm dick suckers face it gm fucking sucks.
Tupples1 2 months ago
I will remember SLR fondly actually I am looking at ways to get in one now
mkuroglu 3 months ago
he can't even pronounce piaggio
cirocar 3 months ago
What a fucking douche bag honestly
The0rangePanda 4 months ago
@The0rangePanda Why is he a douchebag? Because he said the truth? Fanboys cant accept that ZR1 was driven on track tires, with racing fuel, with racing setup, by a prof. driver, on closed track? (unlike other cars on lap board) Come on people....be realistic. Those videos from chevrolet are COMMERCIALS. I repeat, COMMERCIALS. Those videos are made to trick naive people who jump into conclusions and dont use their brains, they just believe everything they see and dont ever think.
derbigpr500 2 months ago
@derbigpr500 Why is he a douchebag? Because you my friend, are a Douche-Bag
The0rangePanda 2 months ago
@The0rangePanda I guess being objective, realistic, using your brain and going deeper into the issues makes you a douche-bag in america... and believing everything you're served, trusting a car manufacturer when he give you a review of HIS OWN car, makes you smart...eh?
derbigpr500 2 months ago
@The0rangePanda And lol, one look at your channel says enough, you're apparently a well known Douche-Bag on youtube.
derbigpr500 2 months ago
@derbigpr500 kk your still a douche bag and i fucked your sister she had a tight sugary cunt =D
xXTrueSShotX 2 months ago
@derbigpr500 LOL Track tires? Racing fuel? Racing setup? Pro driver? Closed track? Show me where you got this info from.
13tommy1 1 month ago
@derbigpr500 And yes, you believe what you SEE. NOT what you HEAR. Get your head out of your ass.
13tommy1 1 month ago
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GERMEXICAN327 1 month ago
the way these tools just bashed the SLR and ZR1 just made me lose respect for this show unsubscribed
itchytasty100 4 months ago
i got a sub 7:20 time with the ACR (stock with sport soft. same as the real world record), and i thought i sucked at that game. 9 minutes is like.... a civic in reverse. anyway! why the **** would a performance car be judged on how it looks in front of a resteraunt? wow this guy is dumb. buy a veryon and put a cappucino engine in it if thats what you like. you just wasted $2million, but hey! it looks nice. idiot....
labhusky3 4 months ago
@Marshmallowrex Drive one, come back. Then you won't shut up about your love for ZR1s for weeks.
dabomb4333 4 months ago
who cares about track time. make the car right. make it last. and stop putting cheap ass china matterials on them. just make it look like what you price it for. dont try to sale it for 100k and the interior look like is from a kia. a civic as better material then a corvette. and second car lover love cars no matter what is there track time. because of the look and what the car represents. i bought a bmw no just cuz of is the ultimate driving machine. i bought cuz is safe for my kids.
NVAUTOSPORTS 5 months ago
the guy on the right is a complete twat, does have a decent opinion on anything at all. someone dies during a motorsport event so they limit some parts which is what they should do while they investigave the accident and that twat sits giggling at it. cunt
paulturton27 5 months ago
Okay... I thought I'd hear some argument, but the only thing I heard :
- Corvette is faster ? I don't care, I like the GTR most. Next topic ?
Thanks for playing.
The Nissan is glued to the road and the ZR1 is a rocket full of torque. These are two different way of seeing sportscars. I like both. I don't need to compare them.
And the Nordschleife IS the greatest track ever.
chenille28 5 months ago
it makes me laugh to read comments from idiots like marshmallowrex. if you really knew anything about cars you would stfu. these guys know nothing.
TheGMCBoii 5 months ago
these guys are fucking tools. downvoted.
cliffabrown 5 months ago
9:20 ... yep they are both idiots
TubedxYou 6 months ago
That guy is literally fucking retarded. The SLR is one of the best cars ever made. I can't even watch this.
800hennessy 6 months ago
@Marshmallowrex i hope to god ur not with ford because ford makes nothing to be proud of
ghammerboy97 6 months ago
and this are ''car lovers''
is this a joke ?
klebbs1988 6 months ago
Alex Roy your a douche. But, yes, the e39 is the best looking car on the road today
petehubs 6 months ago
could this guy possibly be more negative??
Thumpr110 6 months ago
"of course it drove well, it's a BMW" wow pretty smug and presumptuous. these guys are like TYT for cars.
zRev1983 6 months ago
"of course it drove well, it's a BMW" wow pretty smug and presumptuous.
zRev1983 6 months ago
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this a video of 2 huge loser douchebags that dont know shit about cars filming from the same room in alex roys mom's basement, losers
baddmistake11 7 months ago
this a video of 2 huge loser douchebags that dont know shit about cars filming from the same room in alex roys mom's basement, los
baddmistake11 7 months ago
matt farah is awesome, his reviews are always to constructive. the douch to his left is well,.... just read the highest rated comment.
asshatnowhere159 7 months ago
@asshatnowhere159
right*?
FuglyHippo 7 months ago
They would drive a slow gtr fast , then a super fast CORVETTE slow ?????? WoW where did they dig up these guys??????
bill06gto 7 months ago
these guys are fucking idiots
iceman0987654 8 months ago
These guys need matching tattoos that say "I'm a tool, I'm a tool, I'm a tool."
fattommy16 8 months ago
the 7series is a straight monster there idiots and the 335i is a gift from god
Mrcover2 9 months ago
I have to say these guys have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.
TheFastdrummer13 9 months ago
Wow, what a pair of faggots. I hope neither of you ever make anything of your lives. Go back to matchbox cars where you douchebags belong. You clearly don't have a clue.
topfueldart 9 months ago
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA-bald guys ass hurts
gotmatt2 9 months ago
more than likely both of he GAYS cant drive a ZR-1 and love automatics, kind of hard to take either of u seriously, ZR-1 ran stock tires, and one try vs the GTR with a pro driver, had to change the tires and multiple runs and power tweeks
skillz1855 10 months ago
I subscribed at the beginning of the video, and unsubscribed by the end.
jbellson 10 months ago 4
You guys are idiots.
timstamp1 10 months ago
@Marshmallowrex I don't recall ever saying that GM didn't suck ass.....
tramotorsports 10 months ago
ive broke 9 mins load of times
....... in forza
tonycoulter11 10 months ago
ive broke 9 mins load of times
tonycoulter11 10 months ago
Why would you buy the gtr.....
RacingRocks12 10 months ago
I hate this comercials.
minimalizam009 10 months ago
Why the fuck does this 'Alex Roy' laugh at nothing?
OutPunchedProduction 10 months ago
"They don't ban lughters because a volcano erupted?" Nice Analogy. Hey dipshit that's why amercan racing is a spectator sport. Even tho i live in canada and only go to drag strips at least they can walk around at the track, talk to drivers, meet pit crews and watch the ENTIRE race. Granted no where near as exciting as watching F1 who the fuck wants to sit in a seat for 3 hours to see 3 percent of a race track. Pompos arrogant dicks who know nothing about motorsport should get the fuck out.
honda12345678 10 months ago
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bmeyergreenstreet 11 months ago
gtr's are jap crap
THEAVERAGEGAMER13 11 months ago
I hate that over-fed, leaping gnome and his fake laughter
The only thing I learned from his vids is he doesn't like anything. He ain't worth my time, try to give some information about the topic instead of acting so foolish
sincerely yours
18Aiki 11 months ago
I can't believe these two clowns are actually somewhat involved in the auto industry.
honda12345678 11 months ago
This Alex guy... XD I'm loving him so much right now.... :thumbsup:
Noukz37 11 months ago
There is no way to standardize the real world, which is what this video is really asking for regarding the Nurburgring lap times.
The obvious variable that should be looked at is the driver.
If all the cars were verified equal in all variables, and were all driven by the same driver, that would be standardization, right?
Wrong.
That would require our driver to be 100% consistent at all times, even after we yank him out of one car and shove him into the next one.
3nasacova 11 months ago
So the dude on the right doesn't understand the point of drag racing or nascar.
Winning is the point.
Winning at anything is not trivial when you are up against the best in the world.
3nasacova 11 months ago
Who's the dick on the right? He doesn't like a ZR1, drag racing, and he doesn't know what he's talking about.
FoxBody77 11 months ago
9 Minutes? You do suck Matt. I hit 5:05 in the F1 car and in the stock Z-06 on Soft Sport Tires I am banging 6:40's
Dude.... not enough digital seat time.... ;)))) We can't all be me, the Wheel Man!!
RagingCaveman 11 months ago
drag racing is way better then nascar these guys r retarded
CLE1HALO3 11 months ago
what a piece of shit that alex roy is. If you play guitar but don't have your own band then you should just play rock band...?? go shove a pole up you ass and learn to play an instrument.
9gibsonlespaul 1 year ago
I will take the ZR1 over the gtr. Its a better pure car - that stomps the new porsche twin turbo go look up Andy Bell on the track in these two cars and he loves the zr1. Also, I heard the ls7(Z06) is a better motor, and the suspension on the zr1 and carbon brakes is much better. I say - z06 invest the difference(40k) into the z06 with brakes and supercharger, a few cg lowering mods and suspension upgrade - you have a much better car for the same price. Gtr is pretty ugly by the way
buteaux34 1 year ago
@buteaux34 Man, I think the GTR is waay better looking than the ZR1 or Z06!.
Personally prefer it over the ZR1.
rustygates 10 months ago
Holy hell this Alex Roy guy is so narrow minded and one sided. For fuck sakes whats wrong with people today?. Look at both sides of everything before you talk. I bet that guy wouldn't have the balls to get in a Drag Car. As well as that SLR, I mean sure its not my favorite but seriously. Just imedieatly attack, like WTF?
halflife103 1 year ago
u cant break 9 min in GT5? noob -.-
bb3xhrhj 1 year ago
@bb3xhrhj i have already ran the ring in under seven minutes on gt5 had it for week. You need to practice lol and buy a wheel
TheJohnnyb79 1 year ago 8
@TheJohnnyb79 dude m8t lol thats a game not really life. you do that in the same car in real life ill give you a fiver!
sniper11888 11 months ago
@TheJohnnyb79 I agree, i have forza 3 and beat it with the zr1 in 6:57... really 6:58 but i refuse to round up. xD the gtr time i got really close but i really cant stand AWD in video games.
RacingRocks12 10 months ago
Love how people on here are saying they would take the GTR over zr1 because its better on the track. 2 things 1st off Yeah duh obviously guys thats why the zr1 beat the GTR on Nurburgring and 2nd off yeah most you guys are going to to go the the track to race..... umm no you will do way more street racing. Either way zr1 wins
TheLS1GTO 1 year ago
if i was ask to choose between GT-R or ZR1 i take the GT-R but if its possible id take both. High entry speed for corners/ fast cornering GT-R , Drag race and fast acceleration + top speed ZR1, but alex roy, fck you bitch! ehem but honestly in the video they just sound like those kids whining in the comment box in the ZR1 and GT-R nurburgring videos.
pauliazz94 1 year ago
Its easy to criticize and make fun of 8000HP 300mph race cars when you clearly lack the balls to even get in one. Drag racing is just a simpler form of racing. It take tremendous skill and gall to keep 8000HP straight and if you doubt that fact go ahead and hop in one.
This of course dose not diminish other forms of racing, but to get up there in front of a camera and criticize something you're too afraid to even attempt yourself is cowardly.
Warblade118 1 year ago
Whats wrong with the corvette?
indiana183 1 year ago
@indiana183 Matt Farah has said he hates the seats, steering wheel. He actually has a C5 Z06 with lots of mods. GTR is cool, but the ZR1 for the speed and sound, I would take it over the GTR. ZR1 also looks more exotic.
loudblazer 11 months ago
This dude comes off as one of those "Hollywood" players who everybody in the room realizes what a tool he is except him....And i'll take the ZR1.
TheoneGodfather 1 year ago
I know That ZR1's Time is 7.26.4 and GTR's 7.26.7 It.. It Won That time for the straight way before Finish
DIMA55333 1 year ago
BIGGEST DOUCHBAG EVAR
stradale13 1 year ago
Even if it was 5 minutes faster, I still wouldn't want a ZR1! lol
sllimfej 1 year ago 4
@sllimfej eat rice then.
laveth 1 year ago
@laveth I was just quoting alex roy. But he still makes a good point. Sure, the ZR1 is a fast car, but it isn't as epic and definately not as reliable as the gtr. But it does look better!
sllimfej 1 year ago
@sllimfej
LMAO way to embarrass yourself, envier :9
knaagi 1 year ago
@knaagi how did i embarrass myself? I'm just expressing my opinion.
sllimfej 1 year ago
@sllimfej hater!
deshiznet49 3 months ago
@sllimfej hater!
deshiznet49 3 months ago
@deshiznet49 I was just quoting alex roy, not my personal opinion. But I would choose a GTR over the ZR1 too.
sllimfej 2 months ago
Seems you interviewed someone who hates cars.
USBankruptcy 1 year ago
Fuck the marines, fuck the air force, fuck the army, I would never devote my life to that bullshit. These advertisements are whack as fuck. If anything, I want to see a car commercial.
LOL, this Alex Roy dude is hilarious. I like this guy.
Of course the cars are on race tires and are race tunes... I don't doubt it. I DON'T trust any manufacturers claims... they're lying.
SCHIZOPHRENlC 1 year ago
@SCHIZOPHRENlC Hey man eat shit and get the fuck outa America, i gotta baby brother thats in the Armed Services, and if it wasnt for people like him, your stupid inbred ass would still be a hard spot on your degenerate dads socks under the fuckin matress...Fuckin Tool
SinistrChevy 1 year ago
@SinistrChevy You gotta baby brother blah blah blah, WAAHHHHHHH, somebody call the wambulance, go cry in your corner somewhere else. Nobody cares, you sound like a complete pussy.
SCHIZOPHRENlC 1 year ago
@SCHIZOPHRENlC hey man im in texas any time you wanna get your ass stomped, i aint some keyboard warrior was sayin you need to hold some respect for those that fight for us ya fuckin lil dickhead
SinistrChevy 1 year ago
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Who are these morons?
zerooath 1 year ago
Who are these people
zerooath 1 year ago
alex is an utter prick.
ilovehat3rs 1 year ago
alex roy: i wanna set YOU on fire and actually see YOU in flames
napoy17 1 year ago
Why would anyone listen to these clowns? What is that, a TV show?
r0bstyLe 1 year ago
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Are you fucking serious? Alex Roy's best arguments are that people debating lap standardization can't spell and can't afford the cars in question? What an imbecile! While I agree that lap times aren't a terribly serious question when buying a sports car, this does not nullify the question of honesty.
The Stig is my benchmark of choice, but with Top Gear quickly coming to the end of its run, we will soon need a new standard of measuring race-worthiness; the Ring seems like a good idea.
Violetcrime 1 year ago
bald guy with glasses in his unbuttoned shirt. hahaha FAG! who owns 3 old BMWs. FAG! and oh yea, in-car internet is an awesome idea. just because your brain cant handle multiple spoke steering wheels and radio doesn't mean other people can't. you dont like drag racing because youre a pussy. mercedes mclaren is an amazing car. you will never make it anywhere in car reviews find another profession.
srt10taylor 1 year ago
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srt10taylor 1 year ago
BItches' pussy gets more wet in a cammed out V8 , remember we only like cars because women like cars , stay focused - playboy
sandrock21 1 year ago
@sandrock21 not true, i love my bmw more than my girlfriend, if you can get a nice car pussy comes naturally who cares
MetalicB0x 1 year ago
@sandrock21 That and the rumble of a boxer engine.
carveriscool 1 year ago
@sandrock21 Speak for yourself, ill pay for pussy before i give up my right to drive
SinistrChevy 1 year ago
The Ring should be a Benchmark and Sabine Schmitz and Tim Schrick should be the drivers. Both of them in identical cars with an offset of 30 seconds. And the average should be the first of the relevant times. The second average should be a "wet" lap, if possible. That'd be more significant than "some" car with racing tyres and racing fuel and (therefor) optimized CCU ...
AmvC 1 year ago
Alex Roy just sounds like a bitch. And I'm only at 01:46. And He doesn't know how to pronounce Porsche. Just quit talking. No radio? Give me a break.
jeepownsrover 1 year ago
Alex Roy just sounds like a bitch. And I'm only at 01:46. And He doesn't know how to pronounce Porsche. Just quit talking.
jeepownsrover 1 year ago
Alex Roy just sounds like a bitch. And I'm only at 01:46
jeepownsrover 1 year ago
PorschE! Not "porsch!
skog77 1 year ago
Alex Roy... hands down the biggest douche bag "car lover" I've ever seen in my entire life. I emphasize "car lover" for the simple reason that he is the opposite.
tramotorsports 1 year ago 45
@tramotorsports
well considering he has the east/west coast record of 31 hrs for the transcontinental US he has a right to be critical cause he drives at the limit.
MetalicB0x 1 year ago
I drive my slow explorer as fast as i can. Just gotta watch it around 60 mph for that missing wheel weight.
HeavyGhost 1 year ago
Yes the ring is a good bench mark
chillpickle420 1 year ago
These are track cars we are talking about. I think they should have a track standard. I personaly would like to know what these cars do also. Before 1998 I would probally side with you guys on the gtr, but I feel GM builds the best cars these days.
chillpickle420 1 year ago
Why does it matter? Why do you little pussies bicker back and forth? They are both awesome. I can't believe this is still going on.
xilix 1 year ago
and you are gey so you want a zr1
ddaannyy89 1 year ago
zr1 rapes all. you guys aren't real men thats why you want a toy GTR, horrible car.
theapeman1989 1 year ago
@theapeman1989 really rapes all
what about on the top gear test track
GTR 1.19.7
ZR1 1.20.4 ..... so there you are it doesnt ''rape all'' the ''TOY'' beat it hahaha
lst2sconer 1 year ago
GTR? seriously? a 480hp twin turbo v6 over a 6.2L LS9 638hp V8? LOL u guys a fucking idiots
JoaquinSerrapio 1 year ago
@JoaquinSerrapio
So? An old 2.6 litre RB26DETT twin turbo can still do a faster run as a stock car, than a ZR06. So, the only fucking idiot here is you.
BMW M5E34 Nürburgring Edition KDC, 380hp, Straight Six engine, achieves the speed of 314km/h.
A speed over 180mph, with less than 400hp, douchebag. So up yours.
FrozenBlaze 1 year ago
@FrozenBlaze did u let all ur anger out? u alright big boy? as i said again. Fucking idiots
JoaquinSerrapio 1 year ago
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FrozenBlaze 1 year ago
@JoaquinSerrapio
Yes you are. At least these people you call "fucking idiots" know how to spell and write correctly, unlike you.
FrozenBlaze 1 year ago
@FrozenBlaze your not done letting it out yet? its ok big guy let it all out. As i said again, Fucking idiots.
JoaquinSerrapio 1 year ago
Nissan's like Subaru...they need AWD to be competitive. Corvette is dominant, kids.
mahmahmonkey 1 year ago
@mahmahmonkey What? subaru's racing heritage lies in rally, how many rally cars dont use awd? As per the gtr being awd, think 911 turbo, which, if you arent aware is the reason all gtr's were created.
Nissan has always wanted to create a car to compete with the 911s.
Bahamuttiamat 1 year ago
gm sucks compare mileage and price and vette gets raped just like their shitty camaro ahahah
bonds911 1 year ago
@Marshmallowrex :o
Hope you're trolling.
That or you really don't know jack shit about automobiles.
emokTheKid 1 year ago
@emokTheKid he is trolling he does this on every fucking video on youtube dont worry lolol
JoaquinSerrapio 1 year ago
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FrozenBlaze 1 year ago
u two can go have gay sex now u fuckin pricks.
xXHellsDevilXx 1 year ago
@Marshmallowrex so sweet and soft does your boyfriend call you marschmallow because you have soft tits or big azz? #LOL
youlance29 1 year ago
simple, to standardize.. make the same car race 3 different times, 3 different weather (rain, cold weather, hotweather) then find the median of all the 3 laptimes and there is your standardization.
oct0pus 1 year ago
Nurburgring Times tell NOTHING ..... its so much on the Driver and his or her Experience on the Track ..... If u ever been to the Ring ull see Porsches (all kinds ) getting hardly owned by some Stripped E30
DriftkingS2K 1 year ago
It's funny to watch when they pit the new Lambo mercialago? i think thats how it's spelled anyway with the lambo being AWD, they let the lambo go first onto the track but the Zr1 ended up pretty much pushing the Lambo around the corners..Look up the vid for yourself if you don't believe.
swensen6 1 year ago
I'm sorry the guy on the right is fucking pissing me off. I can't watch this anymore. Bald idiot thinks he knows everything! He's missing so much he thinks he knows how cars should be like! I know that everyone has an opinion but this faggot (extremely sorry about the language) is just plain arrogant.
StreetKingEvolution 1 year ago
0:1 commercial skip
MacsCanfly 1 year ago
That Alex Roy is a cunt with no respect for anyone, why the fuck is he laughing while talking about the guy that died drag racing?
396Diesel 1 year ago
These 419 guys are total dweebs.
RMoss03 1 year ago
Do these retards even research things before they talk about it. NHRA shortened the top fuel and funny car lengths because not all the tracks are long enough to stop a car going 325+ mph. Alex doesn't know an exhaust clamp from a muffler bearing. But what do you expect from a yuppie that owns 3 bmw's.
Having magazine editors run cars all out on the 'ring is giving them a death sentence. The drivers that run fast there have done lots of laps. Long, fast track + inexperience = death.
stlchucko 1 year ago
Fuck you Farrah and tel your little fuck buddy in the video I said likewise.
provamonac0 1 year ago
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i will buy a z06 with carbon package and ill wreck your day with your chinky Asian car
shadowforce9 1 year ago
i will buy a z06 with carbon package and ill wreck your day with you chinky Asian car
shadowforce9 1 year ago
laughing out loud right now....no one takes bald guys seriously. ;-)
bonscott01 1 year ago
Wow both these guys suck about everything car related and the sad thing is I've actually met the idiot Farah at Grand Prix New York several times, struggling to fit his fat body into his tiny race suit, ew - buy a bigger size Matt or use the larger blue ones available.
And the bald idiot on the right, oh my goodness he is a disgrace to anything that has ever been considered a car.
provamonac0 1 year ago
Seriously, I used to be a BIG BIG import fan. But one day I had do a research project on how an engine works and I learned the truth.
Most imports suck my fucking balls, ever since the ZR1 came out all I hear bitching are the faggots who are love with the GTR.
You have to be a huge fucking fag to choose a GTR over a ZR1 anyday. Seriously you have to be a fucking homo to get a GTR looking char compared to the ZR1 you guys have never driven a ZR1 that's why you talk.
adxgr0undzer0 1 year ago
i hate this guy already . he doesnt like the new BMW and drag racing
rioross 1 year ago
Dude on the right gives horrible advice.
porschedrifter 1 year ago
oh and i dont really care if they shaved tires and used racing fuel in that zr1...the car is badass without those things and could still kill it on "the ring"
companies use it as a racing benchmark not a grocery-store-trip selling point plus im sure those guys wouldnt have picked the gtr if it had not beat the bugatti veyron in the nurburghring trial by about 15 seconds. i like the nissan alot...but this is a world competition...put a notch on the belt of the americans alright? haha
2bNIKEt1 1 year ago
the mclaren slr "speedster (more commonly known as the sterling moss) is a tribute car to a legendary british racer and his career by the name sterling moss and more directly to his record in mille miglia...so if the guy on the right had any actual knowledge of racing heritage instead of just busting on other types of racing and relating them to "getting a manicure", then he would realize this car is made for celebratory reasons in honor of a racing legend...good joke guy
2bNIKEt1 1 year ago
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2bNIKEt1 1 year ago
alex roy FTW!!!
Michaelation08 1 year ago
i always knew that the ZR1 nurburgring times were fake. Race gas and race tuned and using shaved tires just to get a 7:26 which the GTR gets the same time with 100 less HP and 600 pounds heavier. Shame on you GM.
2ndtonone1000 1 year ago
@2ndtonone1000 Good thing you listened.; he said BOTH are fake. Just because you can't get over the ZR1 beating your fantasy GTR doesn't mean it's okay to excuse the other side of the story.
ToXiN06 1 year ago
@ToXiN06 I figured both were fake. I mean these companies will do anything to sell their product. An when you watch the video the ZR1 has alot of understeering problems while doing the lap and most of the other cars that got better times were damn near flawless like the Enzo or the GT2 RS or the Maserati and Gumpert. Its not easy to get a 7:18 let alone a 7:26 and many super cars even the CCX failed and only got a 7:32
2ndtonone1000 1 year ago
@2ndtonone1000 True or not, if you watch all the reviews on the ZR1, its handling and all around performance blows all its competitors away (considered they're within a reasonable price range); the ZR1 would own a GTR no matter how you look at it.
ToXiN06 1 year ago
Dude spec for spec the GTR does 0-60 in 3.2 seconds the 1/4 in 11.8 seconds thats 5 tenths of a seconds slower then the ZR1 11.3 an does the nuremburg track 7:26 same as the GTR whether it cheated or not its still posted. The GTR weighs 600lbs more and has a 150 hp disadvantage an ties up the 110k ZR1.An with 15k of upgrades on that GTR you're doing things like this. Bugatti vs Nissan GT-R 35
(HD) Corvette ZR1 vs Nissan GTR Switzer P800
(HD) GT-R Switzer P800 vs Hayabusa (0-300 Kmh)
2ndtonone1000 1 year ago
@2ndtonone1000 You drop money into plenty of vehicles and it will beat another, are these two comparisons stock or is one stock and one modded? Okay then, the debate is a ZR1 vs a GTR, not a stock ZR1 vs a modded out the ass GTR (hence what all your links show).
ToXiN06 1 year ago
@ToXiN06 No the race with the ZR1 vette is a modified lingenfelter that ran in the Moscow Unlimited. So the one link i sent you wast modfied ZR1 vs modified GTR. An stock for stock they run damn near comparable numbers the ZR1 runs 5 tenths of a second faster in the quatermile 11.3 vs GTR 11.8. Stock they both do 0-60 in 3.2 and the GTR is 600 pounds heavier with a back seat and 30k less and this is stock for stock
2ndtonone1000 1 year ago
@ToXiN06 I only showed you the modified GTR because that shows with 15k or 90k what this car is capable of doing and you still come up 15k less then a 110k ZR1 and you have over 800hp. How do you not see the advantage here of buying a GTR over a ZR1. 110k gets you a car that can barely beat out a stock GTR stock. I add 15k to the GTR i'm beating Bugatti Veyrons an im still cheaper then you by 15k under the stock price of a ZR1
2ndtonone1000 1 year ago
@2ndtonone1000 Again, stock vs stock, not mod vs stock. I could show you videos of a modded Challenger vs a GT-R with light mods getting beaten/neck-to-neck for a fraction of the price and that's not even CLOSE to the same class. People would compare a GT-R to a ZR1 and vice-versa but not a Challenger to a GT-R and still, mod the Challenger up and it'll beat the GT-R. Mod any car and you can beat something more expensive, the question is, do you want to drive an ugly box or a badass 'Vette.
ToXiN06 1 year ago
@ToXiN06 First of all the GTR is not ugly and it basically looks like a hybrid G35 coupe. The Vette has looked the same for the past 20 years only recently getting rid of those ugly flip up headlights and copying a more Ferrari front end look. An i'm going stock for stock and so far you haven't showed me anything by the numbers that shows why someone would buy a ZR1. Both 0-60mph is 3.2. Both does the 1/4mile times in ll seconds the ZR1 just does it 5 tenths of a second faster
2ndtonone1000 1 year ago
@ToXiN06 First of all stock for stock the ZR1 fails to clearly beat out the ZR1. I only threw the mod thing in because with the extra 30k you save on not purschasing a ZR1 you can throw 15k into a GTR and have a 1000hp super car that can out run a Bugatti Veyron. In the ZR1 even though yeah any car can be modded to beat any car but for the price why would i pay 110k for a ZR1 with 600hp and turn around to mod it up as a supercar which is going to cost me at least 15k or more. GTR 95k total
2ndtonone1000 1 year ago
@2ndtonone1000 I get where you're going with the modding factor, but when you're buying cars this expensive, it's not about their 'potential' it's about how they come, they're already suppose to be 'supercars'. A GTR and a ZR1 are only neck and neck until like 80MPH, after that the ZR-1 is gone. It does 0-100 1.5s fast than the GTR and that .5s in a 1/4 trap is a lot, at 120 which is what the GTR trapped, that's 88 feet in that .5s that the ZR-1 is ahead...that's nearly the ZR1s 60-0 stop
ToXiN06 1 year ago
@ToXiN06 I had an old R 33 when i lived in Japan and that thing was unbelieveable. Now it was a pain in the ass to work on because you had no space what so ever but the reward was when you got everything in place and tuned it up and it didn't disappoint. I had my doubts like alot of people and never thought much of tuner cars or japanese cars period except for the bikes. But now i'm a true believer and tuner cars have unbelieveable potential.
2ndtonone1000 1 year ago
@2ndtonone1000 I believe it, I can't ever see myself getting into anything tuner or rice but still have to show them some respect.
ToXiN06 1 year ago
@ToXiN06 thats fine but if you ever do you won't be disappointed. I think the Japs are better with force induction engines then alot of car companies. Damn near everything or ever vehicle in Japan is force inducted. I don't expect a Japanese company to be good at makinga big block naturally aspirated engine because thats not their fortay. Just like i don't see american car companies being able to make tuner cars like the Japs although they do make kick ass turbo diesel engine trucks.
2ndtonone1000 1 year ago
@2ndtonone1000 When a vehicle is designed for tops speeds of 205 and 195, it's more than just a turn, it's about speed on those straights and on any straight, that ZR1 is gone and on the turns, it's right on-par with that car. Personally, I wouldn't mind spending that extra money if I was going to buy a GTR or ZR1, just because I don't like the GTR bodies, they look like they sat in water too long and expanded in my opinion.
ToXiN06 1 year ago
@ToXiN06 Well taking out the factor you don't like the body of the GTR thats fine. But the performance numbers don't lie. An whatever little advantage the ZR1 has to beat it out its suppose to because it cost over 30k more in base price. But the GTR and ZR1 is a super car but the GTR is a tuner car pure and simple. If you owned both cars believe me you'd be more into the GTR then the ZR1 because everytime you put something on that GTR its going to shock the shit out of you with performance.
2ndtonone1000 1 year ago
@2ndtonone1000
well said!!
GranTurismo5C 1 year ago
@ToXiN06 All i'm saying is stock for stock the ZR1 barely beats out the GTR on paper and i do mean barely an thats a car with twice the displacement with a supercharger with 100hp and 100ft lbs of torque advantage stock for 110k. Now all i'm saying is with 95k not only can i but a GTR for around 79k put 15k of upgrades and lets say out the door with tax on the base price i'm at 98k fully modified 800 to 1000hp GTR. For 110k you're stock with a 638hp car thats not modified.
2ndtonone1000 1 year ago
@ToXiN06 The whole point to my arguement is that the GTR for the price is the better deal because not only does it has comparable numbers to a stock ZR1 that you payed 110k for. But for 30k you save from not buying a ZR1 you have only 15k to put into that GTR to turn into a total beast which stock it already is already and you have a back seat to boot. Why else do you think the GTR got Motor Trend car of the year for 2009.
2ndtonone1000 1 year ago
@ToXiN06 the GTR is a tuners car so you're not going to buy it and leave it stock unless you're not going to be doing anything with it except coming and going. But most people that buy this car know of the unlocked potential and how god damn amazing this car is when you put upgrades on it. People don't know alot about the GTR but do a bit of research and there is a reason they call it Godzilla and the nemisis to the old MKIV supra. Just look at the Moscow Unlimited Videos of the GTR Switzer 800
2ndtonone1000 1 year ago
@2ndtonone1000 Nah, I never said it didn't have potential, little Jap cars have always been ridiculous when it comes to potential, but even though you'll be forking out an extra 25 or so for that ZR1, if you invested into the ZR1 what you'd invest in a GTR it'd still be a completely different vehicle. But when it comes to these "supercars" now-a-days, it's all about preference, they're all so close it's just what you want to look at when you're sitting in it or looking in your garage.
ToXiN06 1 year ago