Kabane, are you still christian? I saw older videos of you arguing against these things. You had so much intelligence I knew you would eventually find that evolution is valid. Im pleased to see you continued to study and use your brain wisely! :)
Science and government are different things. It is science that has cured disease, crated vaccines, developed fertilizers to grow more food, extended lifespans etc. Religion has been around a long time did not extend life or improved infant mortality for thousands of years. Governments are like money, Not intrinsically good or bad, it depends what you do with them. They are both necessary and are good when do good and bad when they do bad.
Your thoughts seem all over the place. Lets narrow this down a bit. In your view 1) Is the creator God? Did he create us in our present from or did we evolve from more primitive life? 3) Was this done within the last 20,000 years?
Who the hell cares when time began? I'm guessing it's the one whom hasn't figured out yet that it's really going to hurt when the flames are singing unquenchably forever.
"from the beginning, they were created man & woman"
- Jesus
You called the man in the video a liar.
You also said that you believe in Jesus!
Its time to step up to the plate, big shot. You have no idea of how much you lie to yourself. Jesus & evolution are not anywhere near compatible. You want to keep saying you believe in Jesus? He also spoke of Noah & the flood as historically factual
You claim old earth? Ok, explain how the top 3000 ft. of the Himalayas became littered with clam fossils?
The Bible does command us to evangelize in Matthew 28:19 and Mark 16:15. I belive that in Evangelism we must discuss about Hell because otherwise people wouldn't know what they're being saved from when you tell them Christ is the only way to be saved.
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u'r both wrong- relgion should be taught in public school as MANS PLIGHT TO DO RIGHT- uncivilized man sacraficed men and animales and made rules till jesus said do whatever with love. we dont need relgion anymore.. whats good iss profitable whats honest. u cant prove god or disprove with the smallest microscope or biggest telescope so what. Modern studies prove kindness and honesty & forgiveness and stronger for survival purposes.. lets put it in school--- addiction crime war heathcare GOGREEN
Snack Sized explanation of Evolution for YouTube commentary:
Take the incremental level of genetic change that takes place from a human parent to a human child (genetic change that is undeniably proven), and multiply that level of change about a quintillion times over the course of millions of years, and the resulting accumulated level of change in genetic makeup will have developed an entirely different species.
If we evolved from apes, then we would need to reverse evolution to become apes again. I admit, the average human is no more intelligent than, usually less than, a brain damaged ape.
Yeah, Creationists prove this all the time. When they lose a debate (which is very often), they resort to violence and throwing shit at people. Thats where war comes from. If you can't win the debate, just kill your opponent. Look through all the comments in the creationist/evolutionist debate videos. The creationists argue for a while, but they end up going off in the end, censoring comments (VenomFangX), etc.
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He's also a hypocrit because he said that a global flood was impossible, meanwhile the Bible says that there was a global flood. He says he's a christian, meanwhile said stright up to the camera (in another video) "A GLOBAL FLOOD IS IMPOSSIBLE!"
Why would a Christian go against the Bible. HYPROCRIT!
"A global flood isn't impossible, but it simply hasn't happened."
I submit that it IS impossible. The amount of water required to flood the entire planet is more than is present on the planet. In order to successfully flood the surface of the planet in its entirety you will need that extra water to come from outside the Earth's vicinity. Thunderf00t has demonstrated the reason for this in his Creationist series as well as the consequences of the transfer of thermal energy that would result.
%75 percent of the earths surface is water, thats a fact. And everytime a scientist explains global warming, the first thing they tell us is that major cities will be under water. If The north pole and anarctica melted completely, the earth could be wiped out with just a few tidal waves. A "flood" doesnt mean that every inch of land will be under 20 feet of water, but there is certainly enough water to ruin most of civilization.
Whoa, whoa, slow down buddy. First of all, you just ADMITTED that BILLIONS could be wiped out. There are only 6 billion on earth, so yes, that would definitely mean the end of civilization as we know it.. 2ND, I NEVER said anything about any "local flood" stuff. All I said was that if all the ice melted, there might still be a little dry land left over. 3rd, I dont believe in Noah and all that, but you would collect the animals because they cant swim, OBVIOUSLY, the same reason as in the bible.
"I dont believe in Noah and all that, but you would collect the animals because they cant swim, OBVIOUSLY"
All the animals? Why? If all the water in the world melted ice, cloud, everything) was on the surface, my guess is 95% of animals would have viable populations above the water line.
Teacher Guy: "You know there was a time in society where scientists actually concurred with scripture."
Him: "...Secondly there was a time when scientists thought the Earth was flat and there was a time when scientists thought that the sun revolved around the Earth it doesn't matter what they thought in the past..."
Why is he putting the scriptures along side theories like the Earth being flat and the sun revolving around the Earth??
"Why is he putting the scriptures along side theories like the Earth being flat and the sun revolving around the Earth??"
Perhaps because the Bible itself alludes to them in various chapters (I've read 4 editions myself and I can go dig out the references anytime). The World on pillars, the description of being able to see the "4 corners of the world" from on top of a mountain, all there. We disagree on the belief that "He" (who has a name) holds, but he knows what he's talking about here.
147Jesusfreak, why do you say that Kabane is being hypocritical? He's just presenting his honest opinions on Christianity and evolution. Please demonstrate how he is being a hypocrit? Also, where does he challenge scripture in this video?
He's a brother in Christ even if you think he is wrong. Why don't you start treating him as one?
He wasn't challenging scripture. He was challenging fanatical blind-faith. Saying that 'Leviathan' in scripture meant 'dinosours' is faith twisted into fanaticism, whereby something that even shares a vaguely similar trait in both instances, such as both Leviathan and Dinosours being reptile-like, is taken as proof without realizing how big of a stretch it is.
Apologies if I'm the 82nd person to say this, but I don't think that guy is supposed to be a teacher; I think he's supposed to be another student giving a presentation. And he talks almost exactly like Todd Friel, which is freaky.
new discoveries have shown otherwise(2:20-2:29) they haven't yet been proven wrong...or we're just waiting on another scientists experiment to realize that he made and error...
there would not be abundant fossilised transitionl forms, evolution happens in leaps became of enviornmental changes hence, a smaller population to be fossilised, fossilisation is very very rare, if everyone in the world suddenly died, all 6 billion people, there would not even be one complete fossil.
really??? hm...do understand evolution and that it's own creator(darwin) proved his own theory wrong.....he states"for my theory to be true there would have to be transitional forms found or my theory is...wrong"
yes and he also proved how there were transitional species and now we find that 99.9% of our genes relate to monkeys-darwin's example of evolution. We evolved..."But why is there still monkeys"....Actually it was changes in hereditary traits by our APELIKE ancestors-which monkeys evolved from as well.
if you get an insight into psychology of the mind leading us to religious beliefs, social historical context, memes and the lack of evidence for a creator is more persuasive than evolution, for me.
1. ...... you mean that you basicly dont have any sexual desires???? well that's kind of handy since sex is only allowed when you are married. but still... are you serious?
2. you used to have longer hair which looked way better. You should let it grow long again
3. wouldnt inside also be outside when you look from an outside perspective but try to imagine what inside would be if outside would be the outside of inside outside enivorment which means you be inside out, or maybe not.
Jesus Christ, no wonder the creationists like to consider Behemoth a dinosaur. Crocodiles kind of remind me of some of the carnivorous breeds (like the t-rex and the spinosaur). Boniac (YouTube channel: TheReapersPit) said it was a hippo in responding to Jezuzfreak777's "God Owns Science and Evolution".
But of course, that doesn't mean dinosaurs coexisted with man.
If the "Theory" of Evilution were more than just the result of an active imagination, then where is the Hard evidence of transition, between the present species of the past, & the species that exist today? Furthermore, why has there NEVER been ANY genuine fossilized proof of the transitional species, when there is abundant proof of EVERY known species since the beginning of time? And why doesn't any of those species between say Apes & Man or amphibians & birds exist today as they SHOULD?
I listed off transitional forms in the video, denial of the evidence gets you nowhere. Transitional species existing today? HAHAHAHA! You really think that we would see that if evo was true? Of course not! They would have been selected away! Learn about evolution before criticizing it.
@DontHateIMMITATE Museums and research labs are full of transitional fossils. Just because you do not know about them does not mean that they do not exist. Whales have a long and deep historical transitional line. Educate yourself and look them up. It is fascinating. Why would transitional species between ape and man exist? They go extinct. 98% of all species that ever existed are now extinct. Remember part of the theory of evolution is deep time, far outside a single lifespan.
@coolgreyoneabby like u say, we cant even view "evolution" on the same scale that evolutionists claim that it happened. so we cant observe evolution. so how can u assert something is true when no-one has actually seen it? u are saying the same about us that believe in the true God.. that "we havent seen God, so he isn't real," well guess what, we havent seen an ape turn into a man. u can assert what u have observed, which is nothing on the scale that u claim that it happened on..
@thestash16 No, that is not what I said at all. The question is physical evidence, not if you have seen it or not. I have never seen Antarctica, but there is sufficient evidence that it exists. But the sad truth is trying to teach creationists about the science of evolution is like trying to teach calculus to someone who doesn't grasp addition and subtraction. You just were not educated with the critical thinking tools to distinguish between reality and fantasy.
@coolgreyoneabby well look at the life around you. life exists into the microscopic level of organisms. if life exists on such a microscopic level, what makes u think that life wouldnt exist on a bigger scale than us?
@thestash16 U R changing the subject. no one said life cannot be bigger than us. Evolution does not put size limits into the theory. Did you watch the video to understand what evolution is about? More importantly, what it is NOT about, many of your earlier misconceptions are covered in the YouTube video: Qualiasoup Evolution.
@coolgreyoneabby and what is fantasy about creation dude??? humans create things everyday! you see that humans are creators! and then compare again with the fact that life exists into microscopic levels, why wuldnt it exist on bigger and more advanced levels than us? and if we account for the FACT that time is INFINTE! imagine in the infinite time that more advanced forms of life have had a chance to "evolve" as u will. and if humans evolved to create, why didnt the other forms of life also?
@thestash16 This is about the tenth time I have seen a creationist say something "is a fact" that is incorrect or merely supposition. Many scientists say that time started 13.8 billion years ago. It also looks like you are now accepting the idea of evolution. And no one said that other life forms didn't evolve that can also create. What is foolish is the notion that all life forms "Poofed" into existence in their present form denying the museums full of earlier life forms.
@coolgreyoneabby why do u talk about time? there is no hard evidence to support that time even exists. and what part of the meaning of CREATION involves the word "poof." Use ur thinking abilties rather than believing what someone tells you. I was never in my life told what to believe. And through out my schooling years I was taught evolution. If u believe in evolution, then u have NO LOGIC. If humans evolved, how much more so should simple robots have evolved, rather than being made by humans.
@thestash16 You are making statements that are not supported by evidence. If they were, they would be science. But since a belief in a super being that wished the existence of the creatures on earth today, that is what I call "poofing" into existence. If you have a better description? I'll use that one.
@coolgreyoneabby Since when did this "super being," "wish," anything into existence? God created the physical universe. And why would u believe anything a human told you? The government lies to you, and they are the ones supporting evolution. We are classified as "creationists" and i believe that just as we create things, we also have a creator. Please tell me that it is not logic that a greater being than us, could also be a creator, if we as lower beings also have ability to create.
@thestash16 You misunderstand several points. 1) The government has nothing to do with evolution. Science supports evolution and schools simply teach science. Same way that schools teach math. Government does not "support" addition. 2) In logic, before you can declare X created Y, you first must prove that X exists. Then you must show that something else did not create Y. Maybe evolution created Y. So, no your logic that a greater being had to create us is illogical.
@coolgreyoneabby pretty much ur logic is represented in this way. a group of builders build your house. then u refuse to believe ur house was created by them, and that it thus evolved and built itself, because the workers didn't want you to see them, bcoz u didnt even believe the drawings that were presented to you. you looked at the drawings, u didnt understand them, bcoz u havent recieved any ability to read them, and u didnt bother to study to understand them. im not finished yet.
@coolgreyoneabby so bcoz studying the drawings and instruction manual on how to use certain features of the house, like the taps, the stove, the air con, bcoz that didnt appeal to you, u decided to study the grains of sand that make up the structure of the brick and conclude that each grain of sand, on its own, decided to bond together using a certain process, then the bricks decided that they need to form into an enclosed shape, and evolve wooden structures to form doors etc
@coolgreyoneabby so what i just described to u sounds pretty stupid right? and yet that is the exact manner that evolutionists study the nature around them. and if u just studied the instruction manual and the drawings without having to see the people that made them to begin with, the sooner u can start enjoying that house and its comfort features, and grow to have an appreciation for the people that designed and built the house.
@thestash16 Just so I understand what you are advocating, under your belief: 1) Is the creator God? 2) Did he create us in our present from or did we evolve from more primitive life under his direction? 3) Does this creator hear your prayers and answer them in any way? 4) Were humans created within the last 20,000 years or so?
@thestash16 Just so I know what belief system you are discussing, In your view 1) Is this creator God? 2) Were humans created in our present form or did we evolve from a simpler form with the helping hand of the Creator? 3) About how long have human been on earth? 4) how old is the earth? You are free to ask me any question. I'm not afraid of questions on my belief system. My belief system is easy to look up. It is simply the scientific consensus.
@coolgreyoneabby The creator is God. And just as technology evolves from simpler forms, it still requires that one design and create a new model more advanced than the previous. Estimates of humans in their current shape have been on earth for about 7000 years. The bible says that the earth started as just a formless rock. And when the bible mentions 6 days, that is 6 days from God Jehovahs view point, which as indicated in the bible, could really mean thousands of years from our perspective.
@coolgreyoneabby Personally, i dont see scientists that offer an appealing reward for listening to them. They can't even keep their own life. But Jehovah, the God of the bible, he offers everlasting life in paradise on this very earth. He will destroy the ones ruining the earth. Just as we can make repairs on our house, so to can the creator of the earth repair his creations back to perfection and give them life forever on a beautiful earth. Scientists can NEVER achieve anything close.
@thestash16 So you criticize scientists because they can't make the world perfect, but God can, yet he hasn't. Why not? If he could just make the world perfect as you claim, why allow children to continue to die from starvation and disease ? What is more immoral, not being able to make the world perfect or being able to but not doing it?
@coolgreyoneabby Thank you for talking..alot of people just give up, but u asked the right questions. In the bible, it says that God is not ruling the earth, but the wicked one is. That is what the bible is about. That wicked life forms challenged God that we can rule the earth without him. So it is only fair to give people their chance. If someone challenges you against what u know are facts, would u resort to killing them, or would u let them prove their point?
@coolgreyoneabby the government is responsible for the starving people, the poor people. instead of investing money on helping people, they spend trillions of dollars on war, trying to fly into out of space...then justify it as making the world a better place??
@thestash16 But you still did not answer my questions, even if you believe that earth is ruled by the the "wicked one" why can't he just make the world perfect anyway? Did God create the "Wicked one" or not? Is God NOT all powerful? And who is "the wicked one?" an idea, a lack of something or an actual being?
@coolgreyoneabby look at the people that are ruling the nations, they are not good are they? and they think they can rule the earth without Jehovah God. And look how they are ruining the earth. Pollution, famine, disease, crime, violence.. Jah is giving men their chance. And they are influenced by Satan.
@coolgreyoneabby imagine u spent years making a very complex creation, and u finally completed it. then some one comes along and claims he knows how to operate it and use it in a better manner than you, even though u designed it. U have 2 choices. U could kill the guy, or u could let him try and he would look like an idiot. Wicked people have killed countless millions of people, but Jehovah promises he will give life again to those who have died. If he gives life, its is easy to give it again.
@DontHateIMMITATE The hard evidence is hiding from you in natural history museums on full display for all the world to see. There are warehouses full of transitional fossils. Whales are only one example where there are plenty of transitions for you to see for yourself. There are also plenty of transitions between humans and pre-humans. BTW we are STILL apes today, so your question about transitions between ape and man does not make any sense.
@coolgreyoneabby imagine all the freaks that will be living on earth while they are in their transitional stage... what about people with additional fingers or toes, or excessive hair over their body, or even a guy thats turning into a tree, or blind people, or deaf people! are these people evolving? blind into bats and deaf into snakes?? if so, why do these people want to become "normal"?? why do they want to stop themselves from "evolving"?? because ur theory is a disgusting insult!
@thestash16 You do not understand the first thing about the scientific theory of evolution. Before you go and make more outrageous statements that advertise that you know not what you speak, you should at least get an evolution 101 lesson so you can at least be partially relevant. You tube search "Qualiasoup evolution" for your first lesson, then get back to me.
@DontHateIMMITATE And why SHOULD transitional forms still be alive today? Over 99% of all species that have ever lived are now extinct. If a version of a species that is better suited for the environment out competes a less suited version, the better suited version will displace the less suited version and that less suited version will become extinct. That is what natural selection is all about. Youtube search:" Qualiasoup Evolution" to get a basic idea of what you are arguing against.
Would you jackanapes leave kbane alone already! It's bad enough that he has to deal with the criticism from the creationist cranks, does he have to get it from the skeptics too? Who cares what he personally believes? The point is that he brings the goods when it comes to evolution and science in general. That's good enough for me.
you did not evolve from rock. we are created by God.
and we are not retarded to understand that dude. U just have to step out of pride and use brain. You don't even know that u r proud, U think u've understood evolution? don't u know that u are believing in it. Come on step out and do a fair investigation.
No, we did not evolve from a rock and I do believe we were created by God. I think God created us through the process of evolution. No scientist says that we evolved from a rock.
Actually the creature that is mentioned in Job is Behemoth, which is described as being so large that it drinks up the entire river Tigris. The problem with that is that it is clearly an exaggeration as it is too big to be any real dinosaur. Also, it is described as having a tail that hardens like a cedar tree, tail is probably a mistranslation from penis, and the line is referring to the virility of a BULL.
"Macroevolution is the extrapolation of microevolution"
Although thats true, I wouldn't use those words because it leads people to believe that the only evidence for macroevolution is observed microevolution+time. It is important to point out the multitudes of other lines of evidence, which I see you later did.
we have not observed macro evolution. we have observed micro evolution. first off, if scientists ever find fossils of animals that look like they are and ansestor of another animal, that does not mean that it is. all it means is that God created a similar looking creature. so there really isnt any intermediates, they are just similar but different creatures, thats all.
macroevolution cannot be DIRECTLY observed, but science rarely relies on direct observation. science relies on indirect observation ALL THE TIME.
second, the existence of fossils that look like eachother can ONLY be explained by common ancestry. your objection is purely pseudoscience for it is COMPLETELY untestable and COMPLETELY unfalsifiable.
not only do we have fossil evidence for macroevolution, but we have a wealth of genetic evidence such as ERVs and redundant pseudogenes.
"macroevolution cannot be DIRECTLY observed, but science rarely relies on direct observation. "
*Iam still not convinced microevolutoin is due to random mutation. For example darwins finches, i dont think its because of random mutatation, but genetic recombination.
"second, the existence of fossils that look like eachother can ONLY be explained by common ancestry"
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I dont know about only, it could also be attributed to a common designer
(1)ERVs, theres new information that they are not random and very cite specific. If apes and humans have similar DNA. A ERV which hit the DNA of apes and humans in the same place like a arrow hitting a target.
(2)Human, chimpanzee and orangutan reveal a single nucleotide deletion in the GLO pseudo gene could only be explained by common ancestory right?
(3) until the pseudogene of the pig had reveled the same thing and humans and pigs were suppossed to diverge at the time of rodents.
in the finches there would have been random mutations over hundreds, perhaps thousands of generations in the population. The very few mutations that were beneficial would have been selected for. So it's not like it would be a totally random process.
I know the finches had a 5% growth in their beaks one season and the next season there was a 5% decrease. And it went on like that every year.I really doubt thats due to random mutation.
That probably wasn't due to random mutation, but I recommend you look at a chart of ALL the finches and tell me how that could have come from simple genetic recombination.
well I have no way of knowing ALL finches, but i remember the information talked about the galapagos finches. it dosent have to be genetic recombination, it could be some undiscoverd switch with turns off and on due to environmental pressures.
Google image search for galapagos finches. It should be the first image, although I'm not sure if it represents all the finches. If it is an undiscovered switch besides mutations then I would argue that mutations are negligible in the process of evolution.
If mutations are not the key to evolution, then evolution can't work.Without random mutations there is no way for evolution to get the raw information it needs. Thus evolution needs random mutation with natural selection for it to work.
Yes, as we currently understand it, but what you said is "it could be some undiscoverd switch with turns off and on due to environmental pressures" And I replied that if there was an undiscovered switch then mutations would play a smaller part than we thought in evolution.
my "shows how much you know about evolution" message was in response to your comment where you said "theres new information that they[ERV's] are not random and very cite specific."
Where is your proof of this? Endogenous Retroviruses incorporate their dna into random locations on the hosts genome. If you could please direct me to the peer-reviewed paper or science journal that you got this information from?
lol ok go to creationwiki and type in ERVs in the search engine and they have a article on it. And they have links to sites with peer reviewed papers.
The only links from Creationwiki I've ever seen are to other Creationist sites, or possibly outdated articles that were falsified by more recent articles ages ago.
Yes, your great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfather was a mutant monkey with Down's syndrome. Except, those monkeys had better grammar than you.
Do you hold to the phyletic gradulism (slow) theistic evolution ?: or Punctuated Equilibrium (quick) Theistic evolution ? I have found that 99% of Theistic evolutionists in my experience hold to the slow version for some odd reason ? While naturalistic evolutionists feel much more free in larger numbers to hold to PE (quick) version ? Do you have any theories why this may be ?
glad to see you making evolution videos again...I love it when you smack these guys up side the head for what they say...but I was disappointed that you didn't go after them for their "hell threats" a bit more. Maybe that's where I come in...hmm
Two points: That thing with us coming from rocks might contain a grain of truth, though not exactly how Hovind meant it. All that carbon, nitrogen and oxygen had to come from somewhere, and the source was in the end the accreted rock from which even the CO2 atmosphere was an outgassing. Personally I like to look even further and repeat Carl Sagan: We are starstuff, the ash of stellar alchemy.
Well, and a certain kind of clay might have played a major role as catalysator for nucleic acids.
i hate creationists because of their use of spiritual blackmail. choose god or science...now come on, what kind of choice is that for a christian to make.
You know if they call it evilution. It's going to be ugly. Good job man. If these people would open a science book They might know something about evolution.
I know bro, everything in that video he's watching is just a bastardization of information.
AtheistYeti 5 months ago
Kabane, are you still christian? I saw older videos of you arguing against these things. You had so much intelligence I knew you would eventually find that evolution is valid. Im pleased to see you continued to study and use your brain wisely! :)
seanturpin01 8 months ago
Science and government are different things. It is science that has cured disease, crated vaccines, developed fertilizers to grow more food, extended lifespans etc. Religion has been around a long time did not extend life or improved infant mortality for thousands of years. Governments are like money, Not intrinsically good or bad, it depends what you do with them. They are both necessary and are good when do good and bad when they do bad.
coolgreyoneabby 10 months ago
Your thoughts seem all over the place. Lets narrow this down a bit. In your view 1) Is the creator God? Did he create us in our present from or did we evolve from more primitive life? 3) Was this done within the last 20,000 years?
coolgreyoneabby 10 months ago
Who the hell cares when time began? I'm guessing it's the one whom hasn't figured out yet that it's really going to hurt when the flames are singing unquenchably forever.
SwordofSpirit1 10 months ago
Great video!
Cool hair
LiveTheWild 1 year ago
i like your hair
kllsoa 1 year ago
you.... you.. you have a bowl cut that makes your head look like a blue coconut.
Benpurple4 1 year ago
"from the beginning, they were created man & woman"
- Jesus
You called the man in the video a liar.
You also said that you believe in Jesus!
Its time to step up to the plate, big shot. You have no idea of how much you lie to yourself. Jesus & evolution are not anywhere near compatible. You want to keep saying you believe in Jesus? He also spoke of Noah & the flood as historically factual
You claim old earth? Ok, explain how the top 3000 ft. of the Himalayas became littered with clam fossils?
Chuichupachichi 1 year ago
Religion is already taught in public schools. It's called social studies, dumbasses.
Science is observable evidence. Maybe creationists are just jealous of science, and want to pretend they have an education.
keyboardplaya 2 years ago
"The Apostles never used threats of Hell"
The Bible does command us to evangelize in Matthew 28:19 and Mark 16:15. I belive that in Evangelism we must discuss about Hell because otherwise people wouldn't know what they're being saved from when you tell them Christ is the only way to be saved.
Christus94 2 years ago
your voice breaks??? or something :S at about 2:57 - 3:05
jberrybum 2 years ago
Good job.
Obvioustrolloz 2 years ago
Man, this rocks...
Man.. you rock!
leeroynaggins 2 years ago
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u'r both wrong- relgion should be taught in public school as MANS PLIGHT TO DO RIGHT- uncivilized man sacraficed men and animales and made rules till jesus said do whatever with love. we dont need relgion anymore.. whats good iss profitable whats honest. u cant prove god or disprove with the smallest microscope or biggest telescope so what. Modern studies prove kindness and honesty & forgiveness and stronger for survival purposes.. lets put it in school--- addiction crime war heathcare GOGREEN
destylebaby 2 years ago
Um, you're confusing religion and ethics. They aren't the same thing.
DarthServo 2 years ago 3
as an atheist its nice to see somebody with faith and common sense.
WolfRester 2 years ago 5
i believe your hairdo evolved out of kelly osborne's ass and is obstructing your ability to understand that god does not exist
if there were a god? he'd would have led you to a barbershop instead of letting your mom use a bowl over your head
scubadiver75 2 years ago
mann u killed it
gerritt0420 2 years ago
Lol @ your hairstyle
RogueTerenasEU 2 years ago
i have to applaud you for your perfect disproving of this shit video you brought up evidence to dispel all these things this guys is saying.
its to bad you have your mind wrapped around christianity. but very very good video i must say.
hardenth 2 years ago
Snack Sized explanation of Evolution for YouTube commentary:
Take the incremental level of genetic change that takes place from a human parent to a human child (genetic change that is undeniably proven), and multiply that level of change about a quintillion times over the course of millions of years, and the resulting accumulated level of change in genetic makeup will have developed an entirely different species.
You can thank me later :)
LeLimeLine 3 years ago
This video is spot on. It's sad your mind is caught in religion. Let us know when you grow out of your theism okay.
"That's a kent Hovid piece of crap" lol nice
TheEyesOfNye 3 years ago 3
It's got a lot of good arguments, but there's just one thing I'd like to point out that you slipped up on:
We did evolve from apes. This is apparent because we're apes now.
TurnThePhage 3 years ago 4
If we evolved from apes, then we would need to reverse evolution to become apes again. I admit, the average human is no more intelligent than, usually less than, a brain damaged ape.
keinve2 3 years ago 3
Yeah, Creationists prove this all the time. When they lose a debate (which is very often), they resort to violence and throwing shit at people. Thats where war comes from. If you can't win the debate, just kill your opponent. Look through all the comments in the creationist/evolutionist debate videos. The creationists argue for a while, but they end up going off in the end, censoring comments (VenomFangX), etc.
deepelmdesciple 3 years ago 2
awesome. very articulate. I love "that's nonsense. no scientist believes that we evolved from rocks."
FlameBurger 3 years ago
hey your voice changed!
LuieB 3 years ago 7
your cool
stonedjoka 3 years ago 6
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He's also a hypocrit because he said that a global flood was impossible, meanwhile the Bible says that there was a global flood. He says he's a christian, meanwhile said stright up to the camera (in another video) "A GLOBAL FLOOD IS IMPOSSIBLE!"
Why would a Christian go against the Bible. HYPROCRIT!
147Jesusfreak 3 years ago
An INTELLIGENT Christian questions the Bible. It shows one can think for themselves when they question what they believe.
HumbleYankee 3 years ago 5
Maybe for the same reason you eat shellfish?
proudjester 3 years ago 6
Hypocrisy would be calling someone else "not a Christian" as if you have any say in the matter.
A global flood isn't impossible, but it simply hasn't happened.
sacrosanct24 3 years ago 2
"A global flood isn't impossible, but it simply hasn't happened."
I submit that it IS impossible. The amount of water required to flood the entire planet is more than is present on the planet. In order to successfully flood the surface of the planet in its entirety you will need that extra water to come from outside the Earth's vicinity. Thunderf00t has demonstrated the reason for this in his Creationist series as well as the consequences of the transfer of thermal energy that would result.
fs3d 3 years ago 3
You are totally correct. I should have stated: "Conceptually, an all powerful being could cause a global flood. It simply hasn't happened".
sacrosanct24 3 years ago 4
%75 percent of the earths surface is water, thats a fact. And everytime a scientist explains global warming, the first thing they tell us is that major cities will be under water. If The north pole and anarctica melted completely, the earth could be wiped out with just a few tidal waves. A "flood" doesnt mean that every inch of land will be under 20 feet of water, but there is certainly enough water to ruin most of civilization.
deepelmdesciple 3 years ago
"If The north pole and anarctica melted completely, the earth could be wiped out with just a few tidal waves"
No, it couldn't. Lots of coastal regions (housing millions, perhaps even billions) would be wiped out, though.
"A "flood" doesnt mean that every inch of land will be under 20 feet of water, but there is certainly enough water to ruin most of civilization."
It was just local? Then why collect all the animals?
Rissoleking 3 years ago
Whoa, whoa, slow down buddy. First of all, you just ADMITTED that BILLIONS could be wiped out. There are only 6 billion on earth, so yes, that would definitely mean the end of civilization as we know it.. 2ND, I NEVER said anything about any "local flood" stuff. All I said was that if all the ice melted, there might still be a little dry land left over. 3rd, I dont believe in Noah and all that, but you would collect the animals because they cant swim, OBVIOUSLY, the same reason as in the bible.
deepelmdesciple 3 years ago
"First of all, you just ADMITTED that BILLIONS could be wiped out. There are only 6 billion on earth"
'Billions' means more than 2,000,000,000. Billions could be wiped out, and billions could still remain.
"All I said was that if all the ice melted, there might still be a little dry land left over."
Not belittling the impact this would have - but there would be a LOT of land left over. A LOT.
Rissoleking 3 years ago
"I dont believe in Noah and all that, but you would collect the animals because they cant swim, OBVIOUSLY"
All the animals? Why? If all the water in the world melted ice, cloud, everything) was on the surface, my guess is 95% of animals would have viable populations above the water line.
Rissoleking 3 years ago
Teacher Guy: "You know there was a time in society where scientists actually concurred with scripture."
Him: "...Secondly there was a time when scientists thought the Earth was flat and there was a time when scientists thought that the sun revolved around the Earth it doesn't matter what they thought in the past..."
Why is he putting the scriptures along side theories like the Earth being flat and the sun revolving around the Earth??
147Jesusfreak 3 years ago
"Why is he putting the scriptures along side theories like the Earth being flat and the sun revolving around the Earth??"
Perhaps because the Bible itself alludes to them in various chapters (I've read 4 editions myself and I can go dig out the references anytime). The World on pillars, the description of being able to see the "4 corners of the world" from on top of a mountain, all there. We disagree on the belief that "He" (who has a name) holds, but he knows what he's talking about here.
fs3d 3 years ago
147Jesusfreak, why do you say that Kabane is being hypocritical? He's just presenting his honest opinions on Christianity and evolution. Please demonstrate how he is being a hypocrit? Also, where does he challenge scripture in this video?
He's a brother in Christ even if you think he is wrong. Why don't you start treating him as one?
ukchristian28 3 years ago 4
I guess this hypocrit forgot he claimed to be a christian before he started challenging scripture.
147Jesusfreak 3 years ago
He wasn't challenging scripture. He was challenging fanatical blind-faith. Saying that 'Leviathan' in scripture meant 'dinosours' is faith twisted into fanaticism, whereby something that even shares a vaguely similar trait in both instances, such as both Leviathan and Dinosours being reptile-like, is taken as proof without realizing how big of a stretch it is.
vanchrian 3 years ago 3
5 stars.
Megile 3 years ago 2
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evolution? more like EVIL-LIE-SHUN!!!!!!
migkillertwo 3 years ago
well done
rebekahope 4 years ago
your a smart kid.
USArmy917 4 years ago
Apologies if I'm the 82nd person to say this, but I don't think that guy is supposed to be a teacher; I think he's supposed to be another student giving a presentation. And he talks almost exactly like Todd Friel, which is freaky.
Eyedunno 4 years ago
new discoveries have shown otherwise(2:20-2:29) they haven't yet been proven wrong...or we're just waiting on another scientists experiment to realize that he made and error...
7Kristin7 4 years ago
there would not be abundant fossilised transitionl forms, evolution happens in leaps became of enviornmental changes hence, a smaller population to be fossilised, fossilisation is very very rare, if everyone in the world suddenly died, all 6 billion people, there would not even be one complete fossil.
idontbelievereligion 4 years ago 2
Yes people who do not believe in evolution are mentally stubborn and slightly retarded.
USArmy917 4 years ago 2
really??? hm...do understand evolution and that it's own creator(darwin) proved his own theory wrong.....he states"for my theory to be true there would have to be transitional forms found or my theory is...wrong"
7Kristin7 4 years ago
yes and he also proved how there were transitional species and now we find that 99.9% of our genes relate to monkeys-darwin's example of evolution. We evolved..."But why is there still monkeys"....Actually it was changes in hereditary traits by our APELIKE ancestors-which monkeys evolved from as well.
USArmy917 4 years ago
if you get an insight into psychology of the mind leading us to religious beliefs, social historical context, memes and the lack of evidence for a creator is more persuasive than evolution, for me.
idontbelievereligion 4 years ago 2
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1. You are really ugly
2. You need a new haircut
3. Go outside
russjumps4fun 4 years ago
Fallacy: Ad Hominem attack.
This kid is extremely smart. His looks are not important to his message. He could be a cave troll and it wouldn't matter.
Theworldiswonderful 4 years ago 3
1. I don't care, I'm asexual.
2. It naturally falls this way, the only other haircut I could get is bald.
3. I do.
KabaneTheChristian 4 years ago
1: I totally did not know you were asexual
migkillertwo 4 years ago
1. ...... you mean that you basicly dont have any sexual desires???? well that's kind of handy since sex is only allowed when you are married. but still... are you serious?
2. you used to have longer hair which looked way better. You should let it grow long again
3. wouldnt inside also be outside when you look from an outside perspective but try to imagine what inside would be if outside would be the outside of inside outside enivorment which means you be inside out, or maybe not.
Knowntje 4 years ago
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you look 8 and i suggest killing yourself or geting a haircut
D3ZP0T 4 years ago
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get some pussy and stfu u nerd, y do u even show urself
DavidSlaine 4 years ago
I thought that the creature (Behemoth) in the book of Job was a hippopotamus (unless you were referring to another one
bearpaw72 4 years ago 3
I thought it was a crocidile
migkillertwo 4 years ago
Jesus Christ, no wonder the creationists like to consider Behemoth a dinosaur. Crocodiles kind of remind me of some of the carnivorous breeds (like the t-rex and the spinosaur). Boniac (YouTube channel: TheReapersPit) said it was a hippo in responding to Jezuzfreak777's "God Owns Science and Evolution".
But of course, that doesn't mean dinosaurs coexisted with man.
bearpaw72 4 years ago
Your vid keeps slowing down and speeding up :)
ddrfreak787 4 years ago
Damn, kid, you're pretty smart. It's pretty awesome how you managed to list off all these counterpoints straight from your head.
Total support of you, and thumbs up.
KarnofTeer 4 years ago 2
If the "Theory" of Evilution were more than just the result of an active imagination, then where is the Hard evidence of transition, between the present species of the past, & the species that exist today? Furthermore, why has there NEVER been ANY genuine fossilized proof of the transitional species, when there is abundant proof of EVERY known species since the beginning of time? And why doesn't any of those species between say Apes & Man or amphibians & birds exist today as they SHOULD?
DontHateIMMITATE 4 years ago
I listed off transitional forms in the video, denial of the evidence gets you nowhere. Transitional species existing today? HAHAHAHA! You really think that we would see that if evo was true? Of course not! They would have been selected away! Learn about evolution before criticizing it.
Kabane52 4 years ago
Hey go to that 1 guys Web Cam Video:
No transitional forms from ape to man?
it's like 4 videos down the line from yours.
Read Page 1 & 2 mainly - start from page 2, where the Mutation info. starts... goes along w/alot of the info u shared in your video...
DontHateIMMITATE 4 years ago
dont be hatin kabane. creationists (and zeitgeist fans) are allergic to evidence
migkillertwo 4 years ago
[]If the "Theory" of Evilution were more than just the result of an active imagination[]
Well, technically, all theories are results of active imaginations. No one ever formed a hypothesis without imagining.
ThatChristian 4 years ago
@DontHateIMMITATE Museums and research labs are full of transitional fossils. Just because you do not know about them does not mean that they do not exist. Whales have a long and deep historical transitional line. Educate yourself and look them up. It is fascinating. Why would transitional species between ape and man exist? They go extinct. 98% of all species that ever existed are now extinct. Remember part of the theory of evolution is deep time, far outside a single lifespan.
coolgreyoneabby 1 year ago
@coolgreyoneabby like u say, we cant even view "evolution" on the same scale that evolutionists claim that it happened. so we cant observe evolution. so how can u assert something is true when no-one has actually seen it? u are saying the same about us that believe in the true God.. that "we havent seen God, so he isn't real," well guess what, we havent seen an ape turn into a man. u can assert what u have observed, which is nothing on the scale that u claim that it happened on..
thestash16 10 months ago
@thestash16 No, that is not what I said at all. The question is physical evidence, not if you have seen it or not. I have never seen Antarctica, but there is sufficient evidence that it exists. But the sad truth is trying to teach creationists about the science of evolution is like trying to teach calculus to someone who doesn't grasp addition and subtraction. You just were not educated with the critical thinking tools to distinguish between reality and fantasy.
coolgreyoneabby 10 months ago
@coolgreyoneabby well look at the life around you. life exists into the microscopic level of organisms. if life exists on such a microscopic level, what makes u think that life wouldnt exist on a bigger scale than us?
thestash16 10 months ago
@thestash16 U R changing the subject. no one said life cannot be bigger than us. Evolution does not put size limits into the theory. Did you watch the video to understand what evolution is about? More importantly, what it is NOT about, many of your earlier misconceptions are covered in the YouTube video: Qualiasoup Evolution.
coolgreyoneabby 10 months ago
@coolgreyoneabby and what is fantasy about creation dude??? humans create things everyday! you see that humans are creators! and then compare again with the fact that life exists into microscopic levels, why wuldnt it exist on bigger and more advanced levels than us? and if we account for the FACT that time is INFINTE! imagine in the infinite time that more advanced forms of life have had a chance to "evolve" as u will. and if humans evolved to create, why didnt the other forms of life also?
thestash16 10 months ago
@thestash16 This is about the tenth time I have seen a creationist say something "is a fact" that is incorrect or merely supposition. Many scientists say that time started 13.8 billion years ago. It also looks like you are now accepting the idea of evolution. And no one said that other life forms didn't evolve that can also create. What is foolish is the notion that all life forms "Poofed" into existence in their present form denying the museums full of earlier life forms.
coolgreyoneabby 10 months ago
@coolgreyoneabby why do u talk about time? there is no hard evidence to support that time even exists. and what part of the meaning of CREATION involves the word "poof." Use ur thinking abilties rather than believing what someone tells you. I was never in my life told what to believe. And through out my schooling years I was taught evolution. If u believe in evolution, then u have NO LOGIC. If humans evolved, how much more so should simple robots have evolved, rather than being made by humans.
thestash16 10 months ago
@thestash16 You are making statements that are not supported by evidence. If they were, they would be science. But since a belief in a super being that wished the existence of the creatures on earth today, that is what I call "poofing" into existence. If you have a better description? I'll use that one.
coolgreyoneabby 10 months ago
@coolgreyoneabby Since when did this "super being," "wish," anything into existence? God created the physical universe. And why would u believe anything a human told you? The government lies to you, and they are the ones supporting evolution. We are classified as "creationists" and i believe that just as we create things, we also have a creator. Please tell me that it is not logic that a greater being than us, could also be a creator, if we as lower beings also have ability to create.
thestash16 10 months ago
@thestash16 You misunderstand several points. 1) The government has nothing to do with evolution. Science supports evolution and schools simply teach science. Same way that schools teach math. Government does not "support" addition. 2) In logic, before you can declare X created Y, you first must prove that X exists. Then you must show that something else did not create Y. Maybe evolution created Y. So, no your logic that a greater being had to create us is illogical.
coolgreyoneabby 10 months ago
@coolgreyoneabby pretty much ur logic is represented in this way. a group of builders build your house. then u refuse to believe ur house was created by them, and that it thus evolved and built itself, because the workers didn't want you to see them, bcoz u didnt even believe the drawings that were presented to you. you looked at the drawings, u didnt understand them, bcoz u havent recieved any ability to read them, and u didnt bother to study to understand them. im not finished yet.
thestash16 10 months ago
@coolgreyoneabby so bcoz studying the drawings and instruction manual on how to use certain features of the house, like the taps, the stove, the air con, bcoz that didnt appeal to you, u decided to study the grains of sand that make up the structure of the brick and conclude that each grain of sand, on its own, decided to bond together using a certain process, then the bricks decided that they need to form into an enclosed shape, and evolve wooden structures to form doors etc
thestash16 10 months ago
@coolgreyoneabby so what i just described to u sounds pretty stupid right? and yet that is the exact manner that evolutionists study the nature around them. and if u just studied the instruction manual and the drawings without having to see the people that made them to begin with, the sooner u can start enjoying that house and its comfort features, and grow to have an appreciation for the people that designed and built the house.
thestash16 10 months ago
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@thestash16 Just so I understand what you are advocating, under your belief: 1) Is the creator God? 2) Did he create us in our present from or did we evolve from more primitive life under his direction? 3) Does this creator hear your prayers and answer them in any way? 4) Were humans created within the last 20,000 years or so?
coolgreyoneabby 10 months ago
@thestash16 Just so I know what belief system you are discussing, In your view 1) Is this creator God? 2) Were humans created in our present form or did we evolve from a simpler form with the helping hand of the Creator? 3) About how long have human been on earth? 4) how old is the earth? You are free to ask me any question. I'm not afraid of questions on my belief system. My belief system is easy to look up. It is simply the scientific consensus.
coolgreyoneabby 10 months ago
@coolgreyoneabby The creator is God. And just as technology evolves from simpler forms, it still requires that one design and create a new model more advanced than the previous. Estimates of humans in their current shape have been on earth for about 7000 years. The bible says that the earth started as just a formless rock. And when the bible mentions 6 days, that is 6 days from God Jehovahs view point, which as indicated in the bible, could really mean thousands of years from our perspective.
thestash16 10 months ago
@coolgreyoneabby Personally, i dont see scientists that offer an appealing reward for listening to them. They can't even keep their own life. But Jehovah, the God of the bible, he offers everlasting life in paradise on this very earth. He will destroy the ones ruining the earth. Just as we can make repairs on our house, so to can the creator of the earth repair his creations back to perfection and give them life forever on a beautiful earth. Scientists can NEVER achieve anything close.
thestash16 10 months ago
@thestash16 So you criticize scientists because they can't make the world perfect, but God can, yet he hasn't. Why not? If he could just make the world perfect as you claim, why allow children to continue to die from starvation and disease ? What is more immoral, not being able to make the world perfect or being able to but not doing it?
coolgreyoneabby 10 months ago
@coolgreyoneabby Thank you for talking..alot of people just give up, but u asked the right questions. In the bible, it says that God is not ruling the earth, but the wicked one is. That is what the bible is about. That wicked life forms challenged God that we can rule the earth without him. So it is only fair to give people their chance. If someone challenges you against what u know are facts, would u resort to killing them, or would u let them prove their point?
thestash16 10 months ago
@coolgreyoneabby the government is responsible for the starving people, the poor people. instead of investing money on helping people, they spend trillions of dollars on war, trying to fly into out of space...then justify it as making the world a better place??
thestash16 10 months ago
@thestash16 But you still did not answer my questions, even if you believe that earth is ruled by the the "wicked one" why can't he just make the world perfect anyway? Did God create the "Wicked one" or not? Is God NOT all powerful? And who is "the wicked one?" an idea, a lack of something or an actual being?
coolgreyoneabby 10 months ago
@coolgreyoneabby look at the people that are ruling the nations, they are not good are they? and they think they can rule the earth without Jehovah God. And look how they are ruining the earth. Pollution, famine, disease, crime, violence.. Jah is giving men their chance. And they are influenced by Satan.
thestash16 10 months ago
@coolgreyoneabby imagine u spent years making a very complex creation, and u finally completed it. then some one comes along and claims he knows how to operate it and use it in a better manner than you, even though u designed it. U have 2 choices. U could kill the guy, or u could let him try and he would look like an idiot. Wicked people have killed countless millions of people, but Jehovah promises he will give life again to those who have died. If he gives life, its is easy to give it again.
thestash16 10 months ago
@DontHateIMMITATE The hard evidence is hiding from you in natural history museums on full display for all the world to see. There are warehouses full of transitional fossils. Whales are only one example where there are plenty of transitions for you to see for yourself. There are also plenty of transitions between humans and pre-humans. BTW we are STILL apes today, so your question about transitions between ape and man does not make any sense.
coolgreyoneabby 1 year ago
@coolgreyoneabby imagine all the freaks that will be living on earth while they are in their transitional stage... what about people with additional fingers or toes, or excessive hair over their body, or even a guy thats turning into a tree, or blind people, or deaf people! are these people evolving? blind into bats and deaf into snakes?? if so, why do these people want to become "normal"?? why do they want to stop themselves from "evolving"?? because ur theory is a disgusting insult!
thestash16 10 months ago
@thestash16 You do not understand the first thing about the scientific theory of evolution. Before you go and make more outrageous statements that advertise that you know not what you speak, you should at least get an evolution 101 lesson so you can at least be partially relevant. You tube search "Qualiasoup evolution" for your first lesson, then get back to me.
coolgreyoneabby 10 months ago
@DontHateIMMITATE And why SHOULD transitional forms still be alive today? Over 99% of all species that have ever lived are now extinct. If a version of a species that is better suited for the environment out competes a less suited version, the better suited version will displace the less suited version and that less suited version will become extinct. That is what natural selection is all about. Youtube search:" Qualiasoup Evolution" to get a basic idea of what you are arguing against.
coolgreyoneabby 1 year ago
Would you jackanapes leave kbane alone already! It's bad enough that he has to deal with the criticism from the creationist cranks, does he have to get it from the skeptics too? Who cares what he personally believes? The point is that he brings the goods when it comes to evolution and science in general. That's good enough for me.
h8uall66 4 years ago
you did not evolve from rock. we are created by God.
and we are not retarded to understand that dude. U just have to step out of pride and use brain. You don't even know that u r proud, U think u've understood evolution? don't u know that u are believing in it. Come on step out and do a fair investigation.
better7wisdom 4 years ago
No, we did not evolve from a rock and I do believe we were created by God. I think God created us through the process of evolution. No scientist says that we evolved from a rock.
Kabane52 4 years ago
Well, we did come from the Earth, so technically speaking.....
njpalko314 4 years ago
Actually the creature that is mentioned in Job is Behemoth, which is described as being so large that it drinks up the entire river Tigris. The problem with that is that it is clearly an exaggeration as it is too big to be any real dinosaur. Also, it is described as having a tail that hardens like a cedar tree, tail is probably a mistranslation from penis, and the line is referring to the virility of a BULL.
Lying creationist scumbags.
macman13 4 years ago
Woah, did your voice drop right in the middle of that video or did the video freak out?
macman13 4 years ago
"Macroevolution is the extrapolation of microevolution"
Although thats true, I wouldn't use those words because it leads people to believe that the only evidence for macroevolution is observed microevolution+time. It is important to point out the multitudes of other lines of evidence, which I see you later did.
I'm just busting your balls for no reason.
macman13 4 years ago
Well done. You did an even better job of debunking that video than I did.
If anything, I think I'm MORE moral and MORE prone to guilt because I'm an Atheist, but I won't bore you with all that.
dechha1981 4 years ago 2
Guess what evolution is wrong you noooobs!
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!
adolfthejew 4 years ago
Guess what evolution is wrong you noooobs! - great argument....
Elcristoph 4 years ago
WTF? Trillian?
mozzyb 4 years ago
I found the video on VFX page too.
sweatytoothmadman 4 years ago
we have not observed macro evolution. we have observed micro evolution. first off, if scientists ever find fossils of animals that look like they are and ansestor of another animal, that does not mean that it is. all it means is that God created a similar looking creature. so there really isnt any intermediates, they are just similar but different creatures, thats all.
razzarelli 4 years ago
I will be making a video in response to yuor comment.
Kabane52 4 years ago
macroevolution cannot be DIRECTLY observed, but science rarely relies on direct observation. science relies on indirect observation ALL THE TIME.
second, the existence of fossils that look like eachother can ONLY be explained by common ancestry. your objection is purely pseudoscience for it is COMPLETELY untestable and COMPLETELY unfalsifiable.
not only do we have fossil evidence for macroevolution, but we have a wealth of genetic evidence such as ERVs and redundant pseudogenes.
migkillertwo 4 years ago
"macroevolution cannot be DIRECTLY observed, but science rarely relies on direct observation. "
*Iam still not convinced microevolutoin is due to random mutation. For example darwins finches, i dont think its because of random mutatation, but genetic recombination.
"second, the existence of fossils that look like eachother can ONLY be explained by common ancestry"
*
I dont know about only, it could also be attributed to a common designer
darklink0112 4 years ago
(1)ERVs, theres new information that they are not random and very cite specific. If apes and humans have similar DNA. A ERV which hit the DNA of apes and humans in the same place like a arrow hitting a target.
(2)Human, chimpanzee and orangutan reveal a single nucleotide deletion in the GLO pseudo gene could only be explained by common ancestory right?
(3) until the pseudogene of the pig had reveled the same thing and humans and pigs were suppossed to diverge at the time of rodents.
darklink0112 4 years ago
in the finches there would have been random mutations over hundreds, perhaps thousands of generations in the population. The very few mutations that were beneficial would have been selected for. So it's not like it would be a totally random process.
murraythefrog22 4 years ago
show me evidecne darwins finches are due to random mutation and not due genetic recombination.
"Shows how much you know about evolution.lol. You should get a bit of an edumacation"
*duley noted sir
darklink0112 4 years ago
I know the finches had a 5% growth in their beaks one season and the next season there was a 5% decrease. And it went on like that every year.I really doubt thats due to random mutation.
darklink0112 4 years ago
Where is your proof of this?
murraythefrog22 4 years ago
That probably wasn't due to random mutation, but I recommend you look at a chart of ALL the finches and tell me how that could have come from simple genetic recombination.
alienspy07 4 years ago
well I have no way of knowing ALL finches, but i remember the information talked about the galapagos finches. it dosent have to be genetic recombination, it could be some undiscoverd switch with turns off and on due to environmental pressures.
darklink0112 4 years ago
Google image search for galapagos finches. It should be the first image, although I'm not sure if it represents all the finches. If it is an undiscovered switch besides mutations then I would argue that mutations are negligible in the process of evolution.
alienspy07 4 years ago
If mutations are not the key to evolution, then evolution can't work.Without random mutations there is no way for evolution to get the raw information it needs. Thus evolution needs random mutation with natural selection for it to work.
darklink0112 4 years ago
Yes, as we currently understand it, but what you said is "it could be some undiscoverd switch with turns off and on due to environmental pressures" And I replied that if there was an undiscovered switch then mutations would play a smaller part than we thought in evolution.
alienspy07 4 years ago
my "shows how much you know about evolution" message was in response to your comment where you said "theres new information that they[ERV's] are not random and very cite specific."
Where is your proof of this? Endogenous Retroviruses incorporate their dna into random locations on the hosts genome. If you could please direct me to the peer-reviewed paper or science journal that you got this information from?
murraythefrog22 4 years ago
lol ok go to creationwiki and type in ERVs in the search engine and they have a article on it. And they have links to sites with peer reviewed papers.
darklink0112 4 years ago
also I cant post links for some reason so ill PM you two more links to journals.
darklink0112 4 years ago
The only links from Creationwiki I've ever seen are to other Creationist sites, or possibly outdated articles that were falsified by more recent articles ages ago.
alienspy07 4 years ago
just go to the site and links are to other trustworthy journals.
and ill pm you two other journals. i dont know why i cant paste but whatever.
darklink0112 4 years ago
That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard, ever.
Creationists 'never' cease to amaze.
Sweetkittenpie 4 years ago
2 thumbs up for you
Anubis4400 4 years ago 2
nice. another basher of venomfangx :) me subscribe now ^_^
doughnutdoofus1 4 years ago
Thank you for refuting this piece of crap.
brilliant
...as always
hypersomnic 4 years ago
Good job again dude..I'd like to see if he responds.
RealYungMoney 4 years ago
A creationist responding to a video debunking his video?
Lies. When has this ever happened?
GruntyAssassin 4 years ago
You're very bright. But what's with the hair?
qtronman 4 years ago
Hadn't taken a shower yet.
Kabane52 4 years ago
in other words...our ancestors were mutants monkeys with down sindrome...
okauj 4 years ago
Basically.
Kabane52 4 years ago
that give's me hope for the future...
okauj 4 years ago
Me too.
Kabane52 4 years ago
Yes, your great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfather was a mutant monkey with Down's syndrome. Except, those monkeys had better grammar than you.
GruntyAssassin 4 years ago
what a comedian.
chewyclit11 4 years ago
Shows how much you know about evolution.lol. You should get a bit of an edumacation.
murraythefrog22 4 years ago
I was being sarcastic. I am an atheist.
GruntyAssassin 4 years ago
your smart and young how old r u, i love seeing young smart kids its so great
killakadafi77 4 years ago 2
"It's a Kent Hovind piece of crap." Amen.
HumbleYankee 4 years ago
OLDSCHOOL PWNED
alexrulz911 4 years ago
Do you hold to the phyletic gradulism (slow) theistic evolution ?: or Punctuated Equilibrium (quick) Theistic evolution ? I have found that 99% of Theistic evolutionists in my experience hold to the slow version for some odd reason ? While naturalistic evolutionists feel much more free in larger numbers to hold to PE (quick) version ? Do you have any theories why this may be ?
grandconjunct 4 years ago
Punctuated equilibrium.
Kabane52 4 years ago
Good answer Kabane your clarity of thought
never ceases to amaze me ! Keep up the good
work young brother.
grandconjunct 4 years ago
HAHA! That video is priceless. Good job. "The missing link is still missing!" HAHA!!!
jebus6kryst 4 years ago 2
glad to see you making evolution videos again...I love it when you smack these guys up side the head for what they say...but I was disappointed that you didn't go after them for their "hell threats" a bit more. Maybe that's where I come in...hmm
KingHeathen 4 years ago 4
I think that this is my favorite video that you have made. Good job.
alienspy07 4 years ago 2
Two points: That thing with us coming from rocks might contain a grain of truth, though not exactly how Hovind meant it. All that carbon, nitrogen and oxygen had to come from somewhere, and the source was in the end the accreted rock from which even the CO2 atmosphere was an outgassing. Personally I like to look even further and repeat Carl Sagan: We are starstuff, the ash of stellar alchemy.
Well, and a certain kind of clay might have played a major role as catalysator for nucleic acids.
garouHH 4 years ago 2
i wish more christians were like you man.
IllegalAlien1 4 years ago 4
Woah, slow motion!
njpalko314 4 years ago
well job was talking about bohemoth
nailo1 4 years ago
Nobody pwns like you Kabane.
randyhelzerman 4 years ago 3
i hate creationists because of their use of spiritual blackmail. choose god or science...now come on, what kind of choice is that for a christian to make.
zzbullan 4 years ago 3
I'm beginning to think that God sent Kabane to shut VFX up and to teach us the truth, lol.
HumbleYankee 4 years ago
You know if they call it evilution. It's going to be ugly. Good job man. If these people would open a science book They might know something about evolution.
LowBudgetFilmss 4 years ago