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  • yeah nice buggy rated bg system..even the players are allowed to use bugs, bots and hacks to get a high rbg rating..good example high quality from server aegwynn, they made 3k rating within 10 days, and 2-3 matches a day. i quitted wow because of this shit just cause blizzard is corrupt..as if they dont get enough money already they never banned any buguser, hacker and botter since bc..

  • @AnAngryLlama

    mages are the most OP class in cata atm .....

    lol

  • Tol Barad? LOL Next joke?

  • Cool as

  • 10 ppl have bad gear

  • They are making the game wat to easy... whats the point of doing arena now if the bgs give ARENA points seriously? wtf a fkn retard could play the game now

  • @wateroaktree Win a Freaking Pre-made Bg. and then come and post here. if don't Stfu.

  • @dedlock22 been there done that good sir. try again.

  • Arena's suck, I'm glad they're bringing BG's more into focus. I might come back to playing Wow because of this.

  • @worldsendmusic Arenas don't suck, maybe you do. and u won't have any fucking chance in Rated Battlegrounds too. if you could not handle Arena.

  • @dedlock22 I said nothing about not being able to handle them, I found them boring, I prefer the large scale battles and tactical nature or BG's as opposed to small scale arena's. 5v5 was fun but it was hard to find a team for 5v5 on my server.

  • this is so gay....bg's take no talent whatsoever as it is already,now they hand out titles to scrubs? funnnn

  • @martiniman102991 thats because ppl dont take BGs serious right now your gonna have more premades where and ppl will probably actually strategize now

  • @martiniman102991 You should be glad, now it's proberly your time to shine..

  • I am playing WoW only for Arena, but I am very happy that we can get now gear from BG`s!

  • WTF is thattttttttttttt..... no team!? no challenge? cant lose rating? what is that!? come on blizz do something we can have a challenge with.... no reason to find a /2 group... this fucking suck...

  • Nerdrage will be more often with rated bgs, lol.

    you will lose the rating, if someone makes a mistake or the other group have a better organization, better gear or heals.

    And the point is with arenas you could just change the player if he sucked in a couple of games, here you wont even know what is going wrong after a losing many games, you cant be on each player checking if they're doing what they have to.

  • Please dont tell me that u can get the oldschool titles with honor :s the oldschool ranks should stay in game and new ones should be added.

    I earned my rank ages ago with a shitload of work and imho it shouldnt be just a normal rank in cata :/

  • @alexicon89 You got a FoS for it :P

  • @DeadRiser1

    Achievements are fail :( I would prefer to have a rank or maybe a way to add veteran infront of your pvp rank hehe.

  • great. i will so abandon the arena shit. never liked it. open pvp way to go and BGsssss again! ha

  • Srsly fuck blizzard if they use old pvp titles again. They are only asking for a shit storm if they use them again

  • meh, doesnt seem too interesting to me at all, its maybe not a bad idea but to everyone saying people get carried in arena. bgs are even worse. bgs arent a heaven of skill. the more people there is in a team, the more mistakes you can afford to do, with around 20 people in bg, i bet you can afford being a nubcake a few times without making your team lose

  • @trackmort007 one word, "premade"

  • rated bgs... For the people who are too scrubby to get gear from arena so leech of other people in bgs for them.

  • @BroFresco Maybe some people dont like arenas and maybe some people that played during vanilla like battleground pvp more MAYBE this is a good alternative to arena to people who do not like arenas.

  • isnt it funny tho, that every game involving pvp is STILL playing catch up with Dark Age of Camelot. these changes seem ok but still miss the point.

  • :D:D:DD sososososhit

  • i hope they get rid of this shit a week into cata. but if not i guess i ll be char switcing to horde on bg9 cause we all know alliance blows at bgs.

  • @dimonai01 all the battlegroups are getting merged anyway so it doesnt matter which bg your in

  • I wonder if you will loose you old Honor Titles with the inception of the new ones?

    I guess it doesn't really matter, you'd still have the achievement but still.

  • Hey, Nice Video!!

  • i wonder if this is gonna be an arena killer hmmm?

  • @jordan2613

    arena killer? this change will make them even better ,no more retards who get carried by gear , no more newbs who always cry , and people who do both arenas at high rating and BGs will just gain gear much more quicly than anybody else , also T2 weps are still arena related only.

  • Yeah.....what else do you plan on fuckin up blizz?

  • Damn you blizz and making me want to play so bad. You are too good at keeping people subscribed to wow

  • i thought the rated bg was a pug and we get put in a group of people our same rating, i didnt know you had to go and get a team for it. So what happens when the weekend is alterac valley, how are you supposed to find 40 people and keep that 40 people to gain rating

  • @T00nL1nk He says in the video that rated Alterac Valley will be 25 on each team.

    And from what i understand you won't have to get the same group of people every time.

  • i hate this u get arena rating for bgs no thats gay i like pvp the way it is atm

  • @deathreject4ever bragging about that bg pvp is gay without even having a clue how it will actually work , idiot. You will have rated battlegrounds , which for u should have organized teams , you and your teammates will have ratings exactly like in the arena system. SO rated battlegrounds are just like a fuckin arena match but in a much larger scale , and that affords coordination and teamwork in your team, and that is fuckin awesome.

  • i just want to make shure RESIL ISNT GOING AWAY right? kuz i saw a vid somewhere saying it was so plz somebody clarify this?

  • there going to fuck rated bgs up i know it

  • wtf is with the sound!?

  • @Wowaniac its live at blizzcon

  • this right heer angers me cause my server is shit, I CANT GET 10 PEOPLE INTRESTED IN PVP! i wana do rated bgs so i can get arena pts, and even if i can get a groop toghter it is gona cut my time in bgs wwwaaayyy down kuz you cant q as you please you goda get 10 (at least) others who all wana pvp as well and then thats 1-4 battels b4 it flals apart, I CAN HARDLEY FIND PEOPLE TO ARENA WITH! this is not fair to smaller or more pve intrested server, -_-

  • @eight216 i wud suggest u either change servers or create a guild, im pretty sure u can find at least 10 ppl on ur server who feel the same way u do about rated pvp

  • guys? heard in cataclysm there will be no more arena =S is that true?

  • @irresistible454 Did u even watcht he entire video? He showed u the que system for Bg's and Arena so duh there is arena.

  • QQ arena destroyed, hunter class destroyed, rated bg's will be shit because when you're mmr is lowered you win again and if you just do it every time you can you will reach the cap. everyone is going to run around with the best honor titles...

    QQ ima go be a pve whore...

  • @twistz6 Who gives a fuck- everyone hates arena anyway. Only arena nerds like you even care. When they balance it around other things like rated bgs then the MAJORITY of players can be happy again and pvp again. Maybe WoW will be FUN again. Go play a pvp game like CoD, because rated duels in a box are not what WoW is about.

  • @Cameego only pure pve noobs think that way. good players play everything; both pve and pvp. THAT is what WoW is about.

  • @Cameego I am so sorry that I do not follow your ideas of "fun" i will now hang myself for thinking that arenas is nice, I am so sorry I offended you

  • @Cameego dude i play both pvp pve and got my warlock ks hc and still PvE suck ass its just u stand push 3 buttons and run when needed , so stupid pvp each time u figure out different tactics strategys and stuff like that pve is nothing compairing to pvp u just want about pvp coz ur clueless how to pvp and get ur ass kicked on arenas coz u think that its just onother raid boss and ur stairing on him and trying to cast or hit or whatever , thats why nabs go raids

  • @Cameego wank*

  • @Cameego LOL what wow is about... You can play WoW any way you whant, if you dont like arena's that doesnt mean other people dont aswell. its a fucking game people do with they like.

  • Yes I looooovvvvveeeee BGs but I hate arena but now I can get the gear and titles in Bgs :) In actually looking foward to this expansion now. Hope mages are good in cata though

  • @AnAngryLlama When are mages not good lol XD

  • @AnAngryLlama

    if you are bad at arena you will be bad at competitive bgs too , np.

  • @devispez Never said I was bad at arena.

  • @AnAngryLlama and I am looking forward to farming you!!! >:)

  • @AnAngryLlama mages have always been good :)

  • NICE!!!!!!

  • byebye Arena :(((((

  • stats are fun!

  • so we are going to have to create our own BG groups for any battleground? And all BGs will be rated? Will Tol Barad give damage and health boosts to the outnumbered faction? Will we still be able to randomly que up for battlegrounds with the simple bg finder?

  • @SuperPianoPenguinist In order: No. No. I have no clue. Yes. They're making you queue with a full party for rated BGs. You can still single/friend party randoms.

  • Honor titles are coming back! Oh my god i love it! No 1 can acually say no for honor titles, unless they are noobs ofc...

  • @Ihqkoira then ur dumb ... cuz i relly prefer my grunt title from pre bc then having it from cataclysm this titles was about to show how old u played the game ... now they just ruined that ... a noob that get carryed in arena will have a nice title ...

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  • @numaorvipekid49375 the whole point of cataclysm is to return to old things and areas. Its kinda like a new start for wow and thats why i think its good to have honor titles back.

  • @numaorvipekid49375

    It doesn't matter how long you've played the game. I'm not impressed by anyone who has titles from long ago. I don't walk by them and go "HOLY SHIT! LOOK AT THAT GUY! HE'S FUCKING LEGIT!!!" Get over yourself, it's a game.

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  • HONOR TITLES OMG! *best day of my life*

  • HONOR TITLES FUCK YEAH

  • @nictherocker Fuck no I worked hard for my Rank 14 title. Thats all we got to keep was the titles.

  • clicker alarm at 2:20

  • i think cataclysm will be better than wotlk

  • DAMN those fighting sounds n shit in the background are annoying as fuck!

  • what the hell are we gonna do with ground mounts in cata? they're letting us fly everywhere. should get flyers from rated bg

  • bring back old world PvP. not instanced PvP which is what BGs are. world PvP was so much better, there was no limit to how many u could have per side. BGs are way too limited. no Qing for it either. i hate having to wait to kill Alliance ><

  • so what are they gonna do for the horde people owning alli kids? theres no way to fix thatt?

  • Crappy sounds in the Background...

  • Battlegrounds are NOT arenas.......

  • sooo... are my lifetime hks and my marshal title going to be taken away when this expansion is released...?

  • @vorasity7 they better not be. it's the only way to identify old school players.

  • we dont want the game to be a girndfest" end quote...my ass, you want it to take longer so you asses can make more money milking game items

  • @GarIicjr Thats generally what people are in business to do.

  • i really really dont like the killing of all twinks inc end game 80's, im not going to be able to bg without having to be on my games 100% of the time, seems like it'll turn me off them.

    heh if i spend the time, to attain the best gear. why dont you want me to have fun with it and own scrubs? you dont like fun?

  • If you can hardly keep a 5s team together.. how is this gonna work lol?

  • I love the way now if you're not pvp geared, obviously you will have a low matchmaking rating which means you don't have to join Battlegrounds with Full Arena Geared players which means it will be more balanced and down to skill in each of the Battlegrounds anywone else agree?

  • ooo yea pvp guilds are coming back now XD cant wait see yalll in the bgs while im t-baging you body XD

  • Just cant wait for Tol Barad if you have ever played Quel danas on a PvP server it was just epic the amount of world PvP going on made the dailies alot more interesting ,eventually one side would get fed up of getting ganked and start a raid to gank the other faction i hope it lives up to that magical isle where all my best WoW memories took place :)

  • Srry just a Ktwoon :$

  • @Zabadox and Ktwoon

    I do have an 80. And 3 twinks. However I am anti-heirloom on twinks. I twink them just like old times :) and I am a GM of a twink guild an we de BGs and arena every day. But I want to see other people taking the same initiative I did.

  • Gonna bring PvP guilds back!!!!

  • @MrMoviesFTW

    Amen sir, Amen.

  • arg im so angry about some things and loving others....but what i hate the most is how many little kids are gonna play now.... They made it so much simpler now...Some of the most fun about playing this game is working on your toona along with palyer skil not. 111111111111.....2 wooot!!!! im pro

  • their just destroying their game lol. looking at all this shit their making it way to easy.

  • Everyone should just arena, BG is gay

  • WE WANT TWINKS BACK! 19/29/39/49 OR JUST GIVE US ONE OF THOSE BRACKETS!

  • @Benblader666

    Do you just not have an 80 or are you stupid.

    It's easy as hell to twink now with heirlooms, but since everyone has them, invest in a blue legs or helm :P

  • WE WANT TWINKS BACK! 19/29/39/49 OR JUST GIVE US ONE OF THOSE BRACKETS!

  • This can end up very well if blizzard plays their cards in the right way. Wotlk was the expansion of PvE and easy gear, Cata will hopefully be the expansion of PvP and, for my part, lots of dead allies :C FUUUUU

  • @Teoodorh dude allies are getting destroyed daily anyway! go for making it fair and gloat about something that actually says you made a worthwile accomplishement!

  • Noooo, I want to keep my pre BC pvp title permanently!! D: Although, it is fucking awesome that they are bringing some element back from pre BC.

  • @dozzaskebab waht elements?

  • @zadabo99x The titles lol?

  • @zadabo99x idk, i'm still having a hard time deciding if i like it or not :S

  • @dozzaskebab wait but are they taking away the pvp titles? cus i have scout on my shaman and i dont want it to go away

  • @zadabo99x yea like i think they are which is like pretty gay. I reckon they should of released other titles similar to them, i have corporal on my twinks lol :((

  • GO GO HONOR TITLES!!!

  • man i hope the keep WG and bring back QD

  • so you can get awesome gear when you use BG`s?...

    Sry but some times here is it hard to hear what he actually say becouse of the shit pvp sound in the back.

  • It's gonna be way to simple.

    More and more p12 will get accounts.

    I'm glad starcraft 2 is commin....

  • @gustaflag

    It's actually alot more like the old system with kinks worked out so it's gonna work out nicely Imo

  • Is that guy whos explaining at first Ghostcrawler? hmm

  • 25 man av? :S

  • Argh make the warsong background noise stop!

  • why the fuck would you put those annoying pvp sounds in the background?

  • FFS I HATE the fact that they will remove ALL the 40man instances...

  • @Hejzwej why, do you run 40 man instances often?

  • @Letgoofmylighter How the hell are you able to run 40 man instances often nowadays? 50 players, in a vast instance like AV, makes it very sparsely IMO... But yes, there will not be as much lag, but I find it funnier with many people fighting :>

  • Sigh no more vehicles!

  • Cataclysm PvP is gonna be fuckin intense. Can't wait.

  • @gogators154

    shut the fuck up Nerd

  • I think that they should add like a pure pvp deathmatch BG. Like most kills in 15 mins or something wins.

  • @KrandomKyle

    Deathmatch BG... How about healers?

  • @Hejzwej he means most kills a team, so healers would still be very helpful

  • @Leniaal ah, ok

  • @KrandomKyle agree FUCKING aye that would be sweet

  • @KrandomKyle That wouldn't work. Arena is fine for a death match. Otherwise shit players will get targeted and die like 10x fucking your team over. And arena > 5 ppl wouldnt work since dps would insta kill ppl.

  • Urgh.. stupid annoying Pvp sounds..! The fuck would you think that people like listening to that while hes doing the Presentation like?

    Dont care too much about the PvP aspect with Cataclysm but worth watching.

    Cheers Thumbs up

  • when i heard those sounds i thought i was being attacked,cause i was on wg lol

  • oh my bad hes pvping

  • its sad when i hear the sounds and can tell stuff about the guys character (alliance pally with rivendares mount, prolly questing in an old world zone), or thats my guess

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  • i reckon to fix up cataclysm some god druid dude is gonna be all like "deathwing has laid waste to ur land lulz u can has phr33 heals pl0x" and fix everything

  • why is there pvp noise in background?

  • like the bg rating will make bgs more fair, horde will still win because they know what they r doing but at least the skill/gear in bgs will be fair.

  • i think that they are just goin to mess this game up cuz of this expansion

  • mess it up? They're gonna make it soooo much simpler

  • @Ktwonnn I think that's what was meant by "mess it up". Simpler doesn't mean better. Simpler means more idiots running around in BGs with you that don't have a clue wtf they're doing. Good luck winning AV with the new wave of idiots that aren't going to listen.

    I can just see the chat logs now. "Fight at the flags, don't fight in the road" "STFU noob, I'm 85 now. I know what I'm doing." Noob gets pwned, and starts to cry about how noone helped his dumb-ass fight in the road.

  • @Ktwonnn I think that's what was meant by "mess it up". Simpler doesn't mean better. Simpler means more idiots running around in BGs with you that don't have a clue wtf they're doing. Good luck winning AV with the new wave of idiots that aren't going to listen.

    I can just see the chat logs now. "Fight at the flags, don't fight in the road" "STFU noob, I'm 85 now. I know what I'm doing." Noob gets pwned, and starts to cry about how noone helped his dumb-ass fight in the road.

  • @damnit50

    lol?Are you trolling?WotLK has been THE WORST expansion of the two and shittest the game has ever been,hank god they're bringing back PvP features from Vanilla to save this god damn game.

  • I think the best option or a great idea is to add a whole new real such as northerend was a new island in azeroth well they should make a newer real called something else and add a cross real Raid finder... Just something i have thought about :/

  • hope they will dramaticly increase the honor cap!

  • i was watching it full screen , and i was hearing the background sound and i was like "who the fuck is attacking me "

  • lmao

  • at 1:00 where is the new Battleground there releasing lol

  • "a trade channel group that you formed"

    win

  • the background sounds...seriously it's like a competition between the guys voice and the bg battle. annooooying!

  • The background sounds are really annoying, maybe its cuz I am high right now, but its just so fucking annoying,

  • WOW now my server that gets constant wipe from other facton will have a fucked up rating, all becasue these fucking idiots put that in, how fucking stupid can major busness poeple be? srsly i think for the sake of wow, we now need mentally challenged people adviesing wows constructive teams

  • @mariofreak15243

    Aw didums.Solution ---> Premade?lmao.

  • tol barad is a fucking stupid idea. lets say 10 people play in wintergrasp (i know theres lots more, but just as an example) so since 10 people are in 1 batteground. when they make tol barad, its going to split in half basically. so now your going to bored as fuck in the battlegrounds. It's the same idea as the realms in the game. why the hell are there so many realms, we might as well have a realm for every single player at the rate there going

  • think 10k per serv is just good

  • why wud ppl do wintergrasp wen theres new content with better dailys cuz those wintergrasp dailies will be shit compare to the tol barad 1s

  • i understand your point of view. but people still go into warsong gulch at high levels.

  • @Bosey17 why would u go wg when ther eis tol barad? its a lower level thing in cata?

  • @ixcaliber what the hell is wrong with tol barad???? it won't work the way you think... god-.-

  • most of the players will be in tb, but i guarantee people are still going to be pvping in all the other instance battlegrounds including wintergrasp. now stop trolling the comments

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  • Well dude, do you think there is one giant server that all the realms are loaded into and just plugg it in?! They cant do a one-realm tthat your talking about, you prolly been in wintergrasp and notice that you lagg at the end because all the players are by the gate, just think of 2mill people at that gate XP it would be fucked up. And the Tol Barad is an awesome Ide, its kinda cool and all wanna do it, no que timer, a raid you can do if you win and you get those daily quest.

  • well i dont expect 1 realm, but less than they have now. Alot of the realms are low/medium population, dont you think it would make more sense to fill them up first, before you make another low pop realm

  • no...!!! arena cant die D:. That's the sole reason why i still play wow

  • @bostonceltic34 same here :/

  • Guys,will arena gaming be dead in cataclysm?What do u think?

  • @4justicee It wont be dead but they will stop encouraging it. You will probably be able to get the same level of gear without having to put your feet inside the arena. (Personally I hope the arena die)

  • @deathzero34

    I also hope Arena dies. I would really like to see Blizz re-integrate world PvP in some form. Not a complete lag-fest like WG, though.

  • probably. I want the old BC back :(

  • @bostonceltic34 lol, bc ruined wow, want the original back!

  • BC was the best part of wow.

  • LOL @ Clicker 2:16 to wherever. fucking fail pvper.

  • fucking retard with pvp sounds in the background

  • @avatarCROO It's Blizzcon You retard? it Isn't one thing happening at a time D:< o.O

  • dude the back ground pvp is anoying its hard to focus on what the guy is saying