A little off topic,but European banks are now in the hole to the tune of £16Triilions or $25Trillions.Can you imagine the furore in Washington if your banks were similarly exposed,or are they through SWAPS?
...Anyway, the US has been moving in, in a big way, to Central Asia. Taking the Turks traditional poppy fields in Afghanistan was just one in a recent series of moves by the US and the West that could easily have been seen by the entire matrix of the ancient Silk Road nations as an assault upon their "turf". Remember, that China, Iran, Afghanistan, Turkey, southern Russia, and a few others, all "silk road". We have been moving in hard and fast lately. Perhaps they want us out of their back yard?
Your right and it's all about control of the natural resources in that area, or access to them. That all happened under Bush and it doesn't look like Obama will give up the ground that has been gained thus far. Of the countries you named, only two are actively resisting, Russia and Iran. Perhaps someone is thinking another good WW will help the world economy once again.
Ouch, I hope not. Can we dare have WW in the classic sense with all these nukes floating about? It would have to take the form of a proliferation of low-intensity conflicts and proxy wars, almost the point of anarchy. Financial attacks, a plague or two, massively increased terrorism or oceanic piracy... I could see that. It would be ironic if just as we are coming to be most concerned about our own government, a serious global showdown developed. Ironic yes, and convenient. Just like WWII?
On the other hand, there is more than just some "trade disputes" between us and China. I am a student of history. Has anyone here heard of an ancient thing called the "Silk Route" or the Silk Road? It was a single trade culture that united the entire Turkic world, from China, through Afghanistan, through Iran, and more or less ending in Turkey. At that time, Turks ran China (Mongolic Turks) and pretty much the rest of the regions. Today many of them run what people call the Russian mob....
I agree also that China may be what sparked the Sept. 15th event. Recall, that during that summer and earlier many western nations started restricting unsafe Chinese products containing all sorts of compounds, from lead to melamine and others. Is it possible that the Chinese may simply have intended to retaliate and rattle, not crash western markets? Systemically, we were heading for a fall at some point. Maybe they just, "broke the camels back"?
it could be we aren't legally in afghanastan and the money was taken to finance that illegal war.. or perhaps a future strike on iran... war funding has to come from somewhere and noone is buying Tbills anymore. just a thought..
Yah i agree Boomer, I've been reading about this stuff by chance too. Its all back to China, China is pissed, so with nothing to gaurantee those bonds to finance a ballooning debt, the Dems will just print more money, and monitize, increasing the money supply, devaluing the Dollar, causing super inflation, and Depression.
China though has always been playing dirty when it comes to economics, they'll get what they deserve, instability, and internal striff, much like the US and everywhere
That might put a crimp in our agreement with OPEC countries. See we promised them we would buy the majority of our oil from them, if they agreed to sell in only US dollars. They get to spend all those dollars here in the US buying, well just about anything they want. I'm sure China would not want to compete with OPEC at the moment.
@Boomer1949 Chinese are more smarter than the Americans or even the OPEC nations. They're locking in supplies of oil, gas, metals and rare earths, in various parts of Africa, South America and Asia. They'll keep financing the American trade deficit until America becomes a smaller overall trading partner at which time it is easily expendable. But all the Hot Money that the Chinese holg, will go either into concessions of resources overseas or Capex inside China.
I'm not going anywhere skibee50. The deal we made with OPEC happened a long time ago. When we went off the gold standard, under Nixon I think. At any rate, China will come around to some kind of agreement, they are tied too tightly to the US not to.
thanks for sub and believe me it's a good idea to learn to dig for stuff on your own and with a team, so any help is greatly appreciated. We all know the media out there isn't going to tell the truth, they only leave hints here and there. Sometimes to lead, sometimes to mislead.
Time to end the "privately owned" Federal Reserve.
LibertaerUeberAlles 1 year ago
Good job. Maybe, maybe not. But sounds plausable.
mandatum 3 years ago
Good logic and investigative research, thanks for a reasonable explaination. AC
tj5555555 3 years ago
A little off topic,but European banks are now in the hole to the tune of £16Triilions or $25Trillions.Can you imagine the furore in Washington if your banks were similarly exposed,or are they through SWAPS?
justjacqueline2004 3 years ago
...Anyway, the US has been moving in, in a big way, to Central Asia. Taking the Turks traditional poppy fields in Afghanistan was just one in a recent series of moves by the US and the West that could easily have been seen by the entire matrix of the ancient Silk Road nations as an assault upon their "turf". Remember, that China, Iran, Afghanistan, Turkey, southern Russia, and a few others, all "silk road". We have been moving in hard and fast lately. Perhaps they want us out of their back yard?
OrfeoTreshula 3 years ago
Your right and it's all about control of the natural resources in that area, or access to them. That all happened under Bush and it doesn't look like Obama will give up the ground that has been gained thus far. Of the countries you named, only two are actively resisting, Russia and Iran. Perhaps someone is thinking another good WW will help the world economy once again.
Boomer1949 3 years ago
Ouch, I hope not. Can we dare have WW in the classic sense with all these nukes floating about? It would have to take the form of a proliferation of low-intensity conflicts and proxy wars, almost the point of anarchy. Financial attacks, a plague or two, massively increased terrorism or oceanic piracy... I could see that. It would be ironic if just as we are coming to be most concerned about our own government, a serious global showdown developed. Ironic yes, and convenient. Just like WWII?
OrfeoTreshula 3 years ago
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OrfeoTreshula 3 years ago
On the other hand, there is more than just some "trade disputes" between us and China. I am a student of history. Has anyone here heard of an ancient thing called the "Silk Route" or the Silk Road? It was a single trade culture that united the entire Turkic world, from China, through Afghanistan, through Iran, and more or less ending in Turkey. At that time, Turks ran China (Mongolic Turks) and pretty much the rest of the regions. Today many of them run what people call the Russian mob....
OrfeoTreshula 3 years ago
Hello everyone; and thank you Boomer!
I agree also that China may be what sparked the Sept. 15th event. Recall, that during that summer and earlier many western nations started restricting unsafe Chinese products containing all sorts of compounds, from lead to melamine and others. Is it possible that the Chinese may simply have intended to retaliate and rattle, not crash western markets? Systemically, we were heading for a fall at some point. Maybe they just, "broke the camels back"?
OrfeoTreshula 3 years ago
it could be we aren't legally in afghanastan and the money was taken to finance that illegal war.. or perhaps a future strike on iran... war funding has to come from somewhere and noone is buying Tbills anymore. just a thought..
WhoRonPaul 3 years ago
Yah i agree Boomer, I've been reading about this stuff by chance too. Its all back to China, China is pissed, so with nothing to gaurantee those bonds to finance a ballooning debt, the Dems will just print more money, and monitize, increasing the money supply, devaluing the Dollar, causing super inflation, and Depression.
China though has always been playing dirty when it comes to economics, they'll get what they deserve, instability, and internal striff, much like the US and everywhere
Thunderwavia 3 years ago
guarantee it with american land, i.e. roads and tolls, and resources like water
U2Berror 3 years ago
That might put a crimp in our agreement with OPEC countries. See we promised them we would buy the majority of our oil from them, if they agreed to sell in only US dollars. They get to spend all those dollars here in the US buying, well just about anything they want. I'm sure China would not want to compete with OPEC at the moment.
Boomer1949 3 years ago
@Boomer1949 Chinese are more smarter than the Americans or even the OPEC nations. They're locking in supplies of oil, gas, metals and rare earths, in various parts of Africa, South America and Asia. They'll keep financing the American trade deficit until America becomes a smaller overall trading partner at which time it is easily expendable. But all the Hot Money that the Chinese holg, will go either into concessions of resources overseas or Capex inside China.
bsg005 1 year ago
Where are you going to move?
skibee50 3 years ago
I'm not going anywhere skibee50. The deal we made with OPEC happened a long time ago. When we went off the gold standard, under Nixon I think. At any rate, China will come around to some kind of agreement, they are tied too tightly to the US not to.
Boomer1949 3 years ago
Yes I know but I was asking U2Berror if we give up our land title we should give up our flag also!
skibee50 3 years ago
What do you think the FEMA camps are for! lol
U2Berror 3 years ago
They are for everyone that does not move
skibee50 3 years ago
thanks for sub and believe me it's a good idea to learn to dig for stuff on your own and with a team, so any help is greatly appreciated. We all know the media out there isn't going to tell the truth, they only leave hints here and there. Sometimes to lead, sometimes to mislead.
Boomer1949 3 years ago
Thanks for all of your hard work.
5Sissy 3 years ago
Keep up the good work! Thank You
skibee50 3 years ago