Nice PFV pod Bruce. Some very good ideas I might want to copy some time. I just made one for myself, but more of a lightweight version - 32grams including a 1S battery, 3 gram cam, jelly lens, micro 200mW Tx, and an external plug for optional HK supersimple OSD. I aimed to have it more like 15-20 grams and use on micro planes, but missed that mark and will use it on everything from Mini size planes to 2m sailplane (or my EPP Eagle).
Bruce!! You killed it like usuall!! I've been looking forward to such project for awhile now.. PLEASE DO SEND ME PLANS AND ANY OTHER LINKS FOR ALL PARTS!!
I am very interested in making one of these unts also the clover leaf aerials if you can find the time to send videos to make these items it will be great, one other thing I almost forgot can fpv be used on 35meg radio in the united kingdom,thank you very much
Thats awesome! ... 1 little question though. Why is it that all the pcb boards are mounted in such a way as to cause maximum drag? Why can't they lie flat? Is there a way to reposition the lens on the PCB so that it can lay flat on the aircraft?
4 leaf is the Skew Planar antenna , better match for the RX unit apparently and the 3 leaf better match for the TX unit , Anyhow great results with these .
might also report that cloverlaef aerial only has maximum effect if a corresponding 3 leaf clover or the 4 leaf skewer (?) on the reciever is used to avoid multipath reflections
I also use coverleaf and seal the coax joint with some epoxy , now noted bunnings sell plastic dip so dip the whole aerial in and makes a nice weather proof unit
if its really about 55$, even when i dont have very much experience on soldering circuits , if a detailed tutorial appeared on how to make the transmitter i would make one
@RCModelReviews G'day... A-BLOODY-Mazing ! Well done, mate... I have a plot to Test-Fly the $100, 1Kg, Chìnese-Electric Whiteman's Rechargable Boomerang until a fit of Overconfidence leads me to attach the PhoneCamera to it. A month into the Fantasy & every Dawn was too windy, or me too hungover, to make the 1st flight... I may have to drink less, in synch with Weather Reports, to be able to try it... Ciao !
Great job Bruce and i bet you could make a killing if you knocked these up and sold mate ;-) i'd be up for a couple at the right price of course ;-) if not i'll wait for the how to video.
great video along with part 1 of FTV made easy. I can't wait or more details so I can get started putting together my own set up. Hopefully you will include a shopping list of the parts that we need. Thanks again, love your reviews
Hi, I love to see your clips they are excellent. I just wonder if you can make the key chain video camera (808 #11) to use for both filming & FPV telecast camera. You need to find video out signal to connection to TX. If you can do it, that will be great. Thanks a lot
@farflyer I've had a quick look and can't find any analog signals in the #11 keychain camera so I don't think it's going to be possible to get a video-out working on them.
@RCModelReviews My version of that keychain camera can act as a web cam when attached to the pc. i read somewhere that there is an open source development project to make a small video processor, like a tiny computer on a board, that will act like your pc to process the signal from the USB port on the camera and send it to rca plugs. Don't know the status of the project.
@rcjoseb You could do it that way but it's an awful lot of work and expense -- much easier just to buy a different camera in the first-place. I suspect that the frame-rate would also be rather low -- kind of like the HK WingMan camera when it's in its live video-out mode. No good for FPV at all.
instead of putting the receiver at the top of the pole, why not just put the cloverleaf antenna on top and run a coaxial cable to it? You won't need all those long leads for the battery and audio/video cables. That's how I do it. Works great.
@CrackerMcGillicuddy Antenna cables have a *lot* more loss than video cables, especially at 5.8GHz. With a 2m antenna cable you'll lose a lot of range! With a 2m video cable, no range is lost at all. And -- video cable is much cheaper than GOOD antenna coax.
@CrackerMcGillicuddy It's best to set things up this way with Rxr and Antenna at the top. RF loses in cable get quite substantial as coax run distance increases - especially at 2.4Ghz and more so at 5.8Ghz. We wouldn't want to loose our video signal would we :-)
Nice video! Are you going to be showing us how to make the video welding visor? I remember in one of your other videos you mentioned combining a cheap tft screen with some lenses to create a sort of diy video goggle rig... Thanks and great videos!
I would love to make a set up like your! What a great set up, nice job! I can't wait to see the build! and parts list.Thank You, Bruce. but after you send it off to be made no one will be able to afford them, they will jack up the price so high, well you get it! where can you put a OSD?
@DanKrszal No... it's not my job to sell RC stuff, just to come up with ideas and review other people's stuff. That way there's no conflict of interest and I can stay totally objective so you get RELIABLE information, untainted by commercial pressures or advertisers.
Nice job Bruce, I use the same on my AXN - love the flexibility it gives me depending on which model I fancy flying (not to mention the ease of changing it over at the field).
Very interested in this project. I am just putting together a short range FPV model using the HK camera and 5.8 Tx/Rx combo but the antenna system definitely could use some work. Any data/plans for omnidirectional antennas on 5.8 gratefully received.
I'm not even in the air yet and already you have me warming up the soldering iron for the next project. Looking forward to ether purchase of your board or the plans and parts list. hmm how well does 5.8 travel underwater.
@plantkiller312 No, 5.8GHz doesn't travel far underwater -- neither does 2.4GHz or 900MHz. Water is a pretty effective shield against most radio frequencies. Submaries used to use ultra-low frequencies for their communications -- Google "Seafarer US Navy" and you'll see that they had to go down to 76 Hertz (yes -- HERTZ) to get adequate penetration through water.
Would love to see the parts list in the "Build along" so I can have a bash at making the transmitter board - any chances of including that? PRETTY PLEASE! With a cherry on the top. . . .
@TheOriginalJoeBloggs Yep, this will be a totally open build so the schematics and PCB layout will be posted to the RCModelReviews website for all to use.
Can you make the video Tx to use same freq as fatshark/airwave Tx? Then I can use my Fatshark to receive the video directly. Or would we be locked to the "other" sets of 5.8 frequencies? If you can choose what freq module I am in!
what's the PCB board do? did you design a little transmitter on your own? i think most people would put the camera seperate on a pan. which is important on lots of planes as you need the ability to relocate the vtx more away from the rc and gps. obviously anyone that could build this would simply extend some cables <3
Would love to know the part number for that transmitter count me in for design a real pcb can i suggest seeed studio fusion pcb service? but will work just as well on perfboard and that regulators a 3.3 volt so why do you need the extra BEC? can't it handle 12volts
@ScouttMan42 A simple linear regulator would dissipate too much heat if it was used on its own to drop the 3S lipo voltage down to the 3.3V that the transmitter module needs. Using the SBEC means that everything runs much cooler and the total current draw is significantly reduced.
@RCModelReviews its true, i tried, and fried, 12v-3v3 drop. the hotter these get, the less accurate they are. it may take a minute or 2 to warm up, time to get in the air, and poof, u loose video. not fun.
@ostidetabarnak There's no noise from the SBEC on the video feed -- which is one of the reasons I also have the linear regulator on my little board -- it helps significantly smooth the output of the SBEC. The RC range has not been effected and the video range is totally clean to the ranges tested so far (about 500m).
@RCModelReviews scince you are the man with the oscilloscope, i will take your word for the sbec , all i have to go on is range tests and crashes hehe. would higher frequency vtx be less affected by such noise? the signal from my 5.8g gets less glitches than my 1.2ghz, but is less penetrating threw trees and such.
Yes, I will build one. Need to know where you bought the transmitter module and drawings for building the antenna. What do you think of using a 3 terminal regulator instead of the switching supply?
Thanks Bruce. That's a great layout and for those who use the standard HobbyKing Tx with say a Remzibi On Screen Display unit, they can pop the OSD where the UBEC is in your set-up.
By the way, the four leaf antenna is a skew planar.
I'm infor making one of these. Just ordered the Sony600 as a start.
bighat72 11 hours ago
Hi Bruce, where did you source your vrx modules from? Do you have a recommendation for a 2.4 vrx module with an rssi output? thanks!
opt123123 20 hours ago
Hi Bruce, is this 5.8Ghz? How much mw in the transmitter?
Delaunay73 3 days ago
@Delaunay73 Yes, it's 5.8GHz and the modules are supposed to be 200mW (although I think that's a little bit of optimism on the manufacturer's part).
xjet 3 days ago
Nice PFV pod Bruce. Some very good ideas I might want to copy some time. I just made one for myself, but more of a lightweight version - 32grams including a 1S battery, 3 gram cam, jelly lens, micro 200mW Tx, and an external plug for optional HK supersimple OSD. I aimed to have it more like 15-20 grams and use on micro planes, but missed that mark and will use it on everything from Mini size planes to 2m sailplane (or my EPP Eagle).
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Bruce!! You killed it like usuall!! I've been looking forward to such project for awhile now.. PLEASE DO SEND ME PLANS AND ANY OTHER LINKS FOR ALL PARTS!!
Much love from Canada!!
abdulalawaz5 6 days ago
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abdulalawaz5 6 days ago
Very interested in making one.
Great video's, thanks for sharing. Leigh
leebrushless 6 days ago
Bruce, I'd like the plans for this. Thanks!
parkeflyer88 1 week ago
Like RobinDChrisChurch this is perfect timing for me Bruce. I have My AXN on its way and I intend to make it into a starter FPV.
Keep the info coming mate I love your channel
TignMeg 2 weeks ago
Perfect timing for me, Bruce! Love your videos! Bought the AXN, bought the camera, can't wait to have my own $55 FPV backpack
RobinDChrisChurch 2 weeks ago
I am very interested in making one of these unts also the clover leaf aerials if you can find the time to send videos to make these items it will be great, one other thing I almost forgot can fpv be used on 35meg radio in the united kingdom,thank you very much
msthunderbolt20 4 weeks ago
Hi Bruce, when can we see the rest of this FPV backpack build?
Looking forward to it!
RienMy 1 month ago in playlist Meer video's van RCModelReviews
I would really like one of those with another camera! Looking for an easy FPV starter kit, and it would be much appreciated if you could help.
briktern 1 month ago in playlist Flere videoer fra RCModelReviews
Count me in for one...
omnikurt 1 month ago
Looks great. Couple for me please and thanks
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aidan284 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Yep... one (or more) for me tnx Bruce.
AltechMYOB 1 month ago
Definitely interested. Nicely done!
hgfasdasdfasdfasdf 1 month ago
great stuff Bruce - loving the in depth fpv stuff
matwelli 1 month ago
Yes, I would be interested to know more details... :-) Thanks for sharing this tips!
pavel4n 1 month ago
Thats awesome! ... 1 little question though. Why is it that all the pcb boards are mounted in such a way as to cause maximum drag? Why can't they lie flat? Is there a way to reposition the lens on the PCB so that it can lay flat on the aircraft?
ArjanHarre 1 month ago
4 leaf is the Skew Planar antenna , better match for the RX unit apparently and the 3 leaf better match for the TX unit , Anyhow great results with these .
rsquarednz 1 month ago
might also report that cloverlaef aerial only has maximum effect if a corresponding 3 leaf clover or the 4 leaf skewer (?) on the reciever is used to avoid multipath reflections
rsquarednz 1 month ago
I also use coverleaf and seal the coax joint with some epoxy , now noted bunnings sell plastic dip so dip the whole aerial in and makes a nice weather proof unit
rsquarednz 1 month ago
noted you use a 5 ubec then 3.3 reg on your board? any reason for this ? mine rums 5v ok so far
rsquarednz 1 month ago
hi bruce , where do you get youir tx module from ? i get mine from range video $20 but no pins
rsquarednz 1 month ago
if its really about 55$, even when i dont have very much experience on soldering circuits , if a detailed tutorial appeared on how to make the transmitter i would make one
linutas 1 month ago
i want one!
kramerica7 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I am really interested!! Because I don't have a lot of money to spend, but I really want to do FPV....
elmardus 1 month ago
I will be making one for sure!
jsnhart 1 month ago
YES PLEASE sell the 5.8ghz tx circuit board.
A How-to + Parts List = New Donator :)
DaCrab69 1 month ago
Looks great... definitely would be interested in building one
specter737 1 month ago
I would build one...where do I get the electronics boards you talk about?
MountainSnowFlyer 1 month ago
@RCModelReviews G'day... A-BLOODY-Mazing ! Well done, mate... I have a plot to Test-Fly the $100, 1Kg, Chìnese-Electric Whiteman's Rechargable Boomerang until a fit of Overconfidence leads me to attach the PhoneCamera to it. A month into the Fantasy & every Dawn was too windy, or me too hungover, to make the 1st flight... I may have to drink less, in synch with Weather Reports, to be able to try it... Ciao !
WarblesOnALot 1 month ago
Defiantly waiting with baited breath for the video tx tutorial. I have a range video 5.8 tx and receiver on route.
ritchiebarber 1 month ago
Finally we will see Bruce doing FPV on LotusRC T580P in cross mode? :D
alishanmao 1 month ago
Great job Bruce and i bet you could make a killing if you knocked these up and sold mate ;-) i'd be up for a couple at the right price of course ;-) if not i'll wait for the how to video.
startazz 1 month ago
Please provide the links for the products used here. The links would be amazing :)
fahdi2k 1 month ago
@fahdi2k The links, schematic and circuit board layout will all be in the project build video and website article.
RCModelReviews 1 month ago
@RCModelReviews and where can I find the article. Sorry for being stupid :)
fahdi2k 1 month ago
@fahdi2k It's not up yet, I'm still writing it.
RCModelReviews 1 month ago
@RCModelReviews OK, great. I sent you a youtube message. Please get back to me :)
fahdi2k 1 month ago
great video along with part 1 of FTV made easy. I can't wait or more details so I can get started putting together my own set up. Hopefully you will include a shopping list of the parts that we need. Thanks again, love your reviews
fantomstranger21 1 month ago
love to be able to build one, and I'm interested in finding out more about the antenna
weaponeer 1 month ago
Hi, I love to see your clips they are excellent. I just wonder if you can make the key chain video camera (808 #11) to use for both filming & FPV telecast camera. You need to find video out signal to connection to TX. If you can do it, that will be great. Thanks a lot
farflyer 1 month ago
@farflyer I've had a quick look and can't find any analog signals in the #11 keychain camera so I don't think it's going to be possible to get a video-out working on them.
RCModelReviews 1 month ago
@RCModelReviews My version of that keychain camera can act as a web cam when attached to the pc. i read somewhere that there is an open source development project to make a small video processor, like a tiny computer on a board, that will act like your pc to process the signal from the USB port on the camera and send it to rca plugs. Don't know the status of the project.
rcjoseb 1 month ago
@rcjoseb You could do it that way but it's an awful lot of work and expense -- much easier just to buy a different camera in the first-place. I suspect that the frame-rate would also be rather low -- kind of like the HK WingMan camera when it's in its live video-out mode. No good for FPV at all.
RCModelReviews 1 month ago
Great idea Bruce, I love the portability. Is that hot glue around the center of your antenna?
rogueqd 1 month ago
@rogueqd Yes, a blob of hot-glue provides a little reinforcement at that point.
RCModelReviews 1 month ago
Nice one Brucey. I like seeing inventiveness. (Kiwi ingenuity!).
KWAKAPILOT 1 month ago
instead of putting the receiver at the top of the pole, why not just put the cloverleaf antenna on top and run a coaxial cable to it? You won't need all those long leads for the battery and audio/video cables. That's how I do it. Works great.
CrackerMcGillicuddy 1 month ago
@CrackerMcGillicuddy Antenna cables have a *lot* more loss than video cables, especially at 5.8GHz. With a 2m antenna cable you'll lose a lot of range! With a 2m video cable, no range is lost at all. And -- video cable is much cheaper than GOOD antenna coax.
RCModelReviews 1 month ago
@CrackerMcGillicuddy It's best to set things up this way with Rxr and Antenna at the top. RF loses in cable get quite substantial as coax run distance increases - especially at 2.4Ghz and more so at 5.8Ghz. We wouldn't want to loose our video signal would we :-)
KWAKAPILOT 1 month ago
Here's mine: /watch?v=5JO0zwjHFmM
MegaWoodss 1 month ago
what does the outer part of the coaxial cable attatch to ?
zip187 1 month ago
@zip187 The coax shield attaches to the PCB and the horizontal elements of the clover-leaf antenna.
RCModelReviews 1 month ago
@RCModelReviews so it just connects to the ground basically?
zip187 1 month ago
@zip187 Correct.
RCModelReviews 1 month ago
I would love to know where I can find information on how to construct my own clover-leaf antenna!!! Any help from anyone is greatly appreciated.
sshukri0 1 month ago
@sshukri0 Search for "Cloverleaf" and "IBCrazy" -- you'll find plenty of info and the instructions are on the rcexplorer.se website
RCModelReviews 1 month ago
Nice video! Are you going to be showing us how to make the video welding visor? I remember in one of your other videos you mentioned combining a cheap tft screen with some lenses to create a sort of diy video goggle rig... Thanks and great videos!
SIXEIGHTTWO 1 month ago
@SIXEIGHTTWO Yep... welding visor build-video is part of the FPV Made Easy series.
RCModelReviews 1 month ago
Yep, I'll be interested in making one ! Thank you ! Can't wait for the FPV project to go on.... :-)
FlyHighAndFar 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I want one!!! This has got to be the best site on the web. Love it, love it, love it !!!
BNConnection 1 month ago
Looks Good!
LmarvinM 1 month ago
Please make the video.
kidovate 1 month ago
I would love to make a set up like your! What a great set up, nice job! I can't wait to see the build! and parts list.Thank You, Bruce. but after you send it off to be made no one will be able to afford them, they will jack up the price so high, well you get it! where can you put a OSD?
Soldier53flyer 1 month ago
this will get SO many people into FPV!
where did you get the module? what is it called?
thanks!
AustinsRCplanes 1 month ago
3:06 He showed us his pole before ! :-)
donjuanzx9 1 month ago
You should build them and sell them.
DanKrszal 1 month ago
@DanKrszal No... it's not my job to sell RC stuff, just to come up with ideas and review other people's stuff. That way there's no conflict of interest and I can stay totally objective so you get RELIABLE information, untainted by commercial pressures or advertisers.
RCModelReviews 1 month ago
Nice job Bruce, I use the same on my AXN - love the flexibility it gives me depending on which model I fancy flying (not to mention the ease of changing it over at the field).
MegaWoodss 1 month ago
I would love to make one of those transmitters!..
What is the cost for the transmitter itself ?
Can you make it on a different frecuenzy ? How? change ic or just the capacitator ?
xsykgaffelx 1 month ago
Nice pole, Bruce.
meakins355 1 month ago
Love it!
taqyon 1 month ago
Hey Bruce... simply Brilliant like always! keep it up!
RCLancelot 1 month ago
Very interested in this project. I am just putting together a short range FPV model using the HK camera and 5.8 Tx/Rx combo but the antenna system definitely could use some work. Any data/plans for omnidirectional antennas on 5.8 gratefully received.
alanpowell328 1 month ago
I'm not even in the air yet and already you have me warming up the soldering iron for the next project. Looking forward to ether purchase of your board or the plans and parts list. hmm how well does 5.8 travel underwater.
plantkiller312 1 month ago
@plantkiller312 No, 5.8GHz doesn't travel far underwater -- neither does 2.4GHz or 900MHz. Water is a pretty effective shield against most radio frequencies. Submaries used to use ultra-low frequencies for their communications -- Google "Seafarer US Navy" and you'll see that they had to go down to 76 Hertz (yes -- HERTZ) to get adequate penetration through water.
RCModelReviews 1 month ago
@RCModelReviews well there goes my idea of a little PFV under the docks as I fish. Hardwire sounds like the only way to go for that.
plantkiller312 1 month ago
I'd definitely be interested in one of these bruce, looking forward to seeing the finished fpv vids too.
WalneySkyland 1 month ago
That little TX looks great for smaller planes witch can't carry that much weight. The build video will be incredibly helpful thanks bro
Ed75365 1 month ago
Would love to see the parts list in the "Build along" so I can have a bash at making the transmitter board - any chances of including that? PRETTY PLEASE! With a cherry on the top. . . .
TheOriginalJoeBloggs 1 month ago
@TheOriginalJoeBloggs Yep, this will be a totally open build so the schematics and PCB layout will be posted to the RCModelReviews website for all to use.
RCModelReviews 1 month ago
Hi Bruce
Great video as usual.
I would be very interested in your fpv backpack.
looking forward to the next video :-)
Daneflyer5 1 month ago
Will you be releasing the pcb plans and parts list for those who want to diy it :) ?
msevyt 1 month ago
@msevyt Yes, it's an open project so everything will be published.
RCModelReviews 1 month ago
Can you make the video Tx to use same freq as fatshark/airwave Tx? Then I can use my Fatshark to receive the video directly. Or would we be locked to the "other" sets of 5.8 frequencies? If you can choose what freq module I am in!
obsequeiousphil 1 month ago
@obsequeiousphil These modules don't work on the FatShark frequencies I'm afraid.
RCModelReviews 1 month ago
I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE BUILD VIDEO!! :D The suspense is killing me! lol
RoboTekno 1 month ago
....assuming it's easy enough to put together. Thanks for all of your awesome videos.
tjnielsen8181 1 month ago
As usual, a fantastic video helping to de-mystify RC flight. I think I'd be keen to give the DIY backpack a shot, assuming it
tjnielsen8181 1 month ago
Thanks. I look forward to the next video in the FPV series
hakank1 1 month ago
what's the PCB board do? did you design a little transmitter on your own? i think most people would put the camera seperate on a pan. which is important on lots of planes as you need the ability to relocate the vtx more away from the rc and gps. obviously anyone that could build this would simply extend some cables <3
Toysrme 1 month ago
I'm interested in making one of these.
NVSandMan 1 month ago
Would love to know the part number for that transmitter count me in for design a real pcb can i suggest seeed studio fusion pcb service? but will work just as well on perfboard and that regulators a 3.3 volt so why do you need the extra BEC? can't it handle 12volts
ScouttMan42 1 month ago
@ScouttMan42 A simple linear regulator would dissipate too much heat if it was used on its own to drop the 3S lipo voltage down to the 3.3V that the transmitter module needs. Using the SBEC means that everything runs much cooler and the total current draw is significantly reduced.
RCModelReviews 1 month ago
@RCModelReviews Cool, so exactly like you explained in the video!
CMP50SpitfireUK 1 month ago
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@RCModelReviews Cool, so exactly like you explained in the video!
CMP50SpitfireUK 1 month ago
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@RCModelReviews Cool, so exactly like you explained in the video!
CMP50SpitfireUK 1 month ago
@RCModelReviews its true, i tried, and fried, 12v-3v3 drop. the hotter these get, the less accurate they are. it may take a minute or 2 to warm up, time to get in the air, and poof, u loose video. not fun.
ostidetabarnak 1 month ago
@ostidetabarnak hobbyking product code :UBEC3-3v3a works well, but a little bigger
ostidetabarnak 1 month ago
Fantastic Bruce! Can't wait
BMSWEB 1 month ago
HERE IS A GREAT CL ANTENNA BUILD VIDEO /watch?v=FcAqiIKO2XI
robnuts01 1 month ago
cameras and bec tend to be noisy, getting them all clustered together will reduce range considerably
ostidetabarnak 1 month ago
@ostidetabarnak There's no noise from the SBEC on the video feed -- which is one of the reasons I also have the linear regulator on my little board -- it helps significantly smooth the output of the SBEC. The RC range has not been effected and the video range is totally clean to the ranges tested so far (about 500m).
RCModelReviews 1 month ago
@RCModelReviews scince you are the man with the oscilloscope, i will take your word for the sbec , all i have to go on is range tests and crashes hehe. would higher frequency vtx be less affected by such noise? the signal from my 5.8g gets less glitches than my 1.2ghz, but is less penetrating threw trees and such.
ostidetabarnak 1 month ago
yes , I would lik ethe details ans the board when you are ready, CHeers
rcgod01 1 month ago
Yes, I will build one. Need to know where you bought the transmitter module and drawings for building the antenna. What do you think of using a 3 terminal regulator instead of the switching supply?
Rick
k6tf 1 month ago
cool bruce thanks
jbx907 1 month ago
Thanks Bruce. That's a great layout and for those who use the standard HobbyKing Tx with say a Remzibi On Screen Display unit, they can pop the OSD where the UBEC is in your set-up.
By the way, the four leaf antenna is a skew planar.
SidSideslip 1 month ago
looks like a good back pack. The best part is that you can put it on anything in a minute
UrbanDrones 1 month ago
Thank you.
BostonClipper 1 month ago
interested in making one
alanbathurst 1 month ago
Already have the camera so $20.00 less for me. Yes, I would be interested! Thanks for making this Bruce!
rcjoseb 1 month ago
Thanks
alanbathurst 1 month ago