Hydrogen HHO Four Series Clam Shell Design (UltraSonic Test)

[frank0067]

i have an idea..

[brokensaber]

I have a better method, least one I tested. Using Polymer to separate the hydrogen from the oxygen. In this case there is no chance of it recompiling into water, plus it is a shorter distance in that hydrogen passes through polymer with ease.

[tarmogr]

everybody are talking about the efficiecy of the cells, but i have never seen anybody to publish the numbers! is it so hard? Some ppl are mentioning production (liters per minute) but what about liters per watthour or volume per joul or similar

[ryn76]

keeping the plates clear of bubbles by running the ultrasonic will theoretically keep more surface area on the plates open to production along with giving more clear space in the water for the current to pass from plate to plate decreasing the ohms of your water. What do you guys think?

[hhoguru232004]

feel free to check out one of my oldest videos it may assist. The fine bubbles pack allot of punch you can actually desighn your cells to get the fine bubble effect. it can be done with larger plates as well. I've found that the smaller bubbles pack allot of power why there seems to be more potency in the gas remains unanswered as to why this is. Are you getting the cold water spray yet people mistake it for steam but it isn't.

[john29302]

not so fast mr bond....lol what about the fogger mixed with hho gas and then ignted with plasma . i would lik to sweep the frequency of the plasma and test. thanks

[mehmetbagdi]

This is not a series cell. a series cell is made of multiple electrolyzers. The most efficient setup for brute force electrolysis is the Bob Boyce design. search for his D9.pdf file

[belshazer]

what if there was a whirlpool movement in the water, maybe the bubbles will move away with the water current.

[bluanvil1]

SirHoax I love it. I have been asking others about the usfulness of ultrasound. I think that this is a solid way to clear the plates of gas to allow for longer "wet" time on the surface of the plates. Thanx for running this for us. Keep us the good work.

Best regards Mark

[dxrjosephine]

so is there a follow up to this? did you figure out if it has a better output rate than without the fogger? very curious as i am building my own now. thanks.

[YiuTeub]

Why pulse. leave it on. The fog drawn into intake is a good thing anyhow. Although the amount youll get off a single fogger is small. Looks to be still producing

[smartputty]

Wow!, Looks fun, I saw another of your video where you installed a cell in your vehicle, is this the same one?

[9266117]

The sonic waves will break the tension of the water.

[offyam]

Cool. It seems that if attached to an engine the ultra sonic waves would be controlled by the accelerator. The further down the accelerator goes the higher the output of the high frequency waves, the more efficiency and possibly power, and reduce risk of a cut-off in energy flow.

[sirHOAX]

There is supposedly a way to mix water/oil/gasoline together right before the injector with high-power ultrasonic. There has been inventors that have done this in the past. So it must be a way to combine something that would otherwise not come together.

Regards, --S

[ising4jesus]

1. Have you taken measurements to see how this affects hydrogen production?

2. Have you measured the power required to drive the ultrasonic device?

3. Is the extra power consumed by the fogger worth the extra production of hydrogen (if any)?

[cheaphardwarez]

I dont know if this would be useful for you or not, but I made own plasma cutter so I could cut 316 plates for my HHO cells. Check it out watch?v=6W3tLDBdPQQ It did not cost a lot to build.

[cheaphardwarez]

I did not complete my thought below. My theory is that removing the bubble faster lowers amp draw as we have seen under vacuum by lowering the active ions available for current transfer. I am hoping to see similar results with the fogger. Amp draw vs volume of gas under ultrasonic and vacuum would answer that. The method I was thinking of trying is pumping water through a "joe" type cell, but uneven plate surface of a joe cell is not ideal

[cheaphardwarez]

I have a theory that removing the gas from between the plates faster. Can you, PLEASE, take amp draw readings and gas production readings? That would save me trouble of having to build it. Thanks!

[sirHOAX]

Will do once the new fogger comes in, because this one stopped working because it was extremely old and was laying around for to long.

The newer versions have replaceable ultrasonic parts, the one I used did not have this.

Regards, sirHOAX

[cheaphardwarez]

Great! Awsome! If ultrasoncics lowers amp draw like a vacuum does then that might use less energy to run than a water pump to remove bubbles. BTW Thanks for posting all this you have done! Do you have a copy of browns gas volume 2 from eagle-research? If not I can send you my copy.

[hopeitshappy]

them foggers get very dirty quickly and stop working

[tmccurte]

I think you need to measure your output before and after the sonic device you may be causeing the hydrogen and oxygen to reunite into a water molicule

Terry

[hopeitshappy]

yep i agree

[youtuubbguy66]

You have exactly the result Stanley was speaking about. He was saying that you charge the cell and then stop and let it do his work. You can clearly see this on his patent (pulse gate).

Pulsing is the key. Also, the UltraSonic things you have must certainly help the process by "shaking" the water molecules.

Keep it going.

[olittlefdog]

Fantastic. Very interesting - often wondered what the effect could be of utilizing ultrasonic foggers for vapor production - but this is quite a combination to witness...

Well I am doing my research now and look forward to getting my own shops pace together with the time to focus in it and jump in with you and all the rest of the awesome inventors and believers out there.

Nice Work!

[andrewtr78]

Kicking ass!! Me and some friends are just getting into it.

[joecellwaterpower]

You might look at the "Joe Cell" video's, the guy in Australia who discovered the strange property this HHO gas, and how to make max

gas with neutral cells, and some strange

effect that it has on car engines. Also look

up a guy Bill Willims and his Ford truck video..Good luck... It's amazing what

scientists don't want to believe in, because

it shakes up their paradigm.

[tvryb]

that is amazing!

if it is breaking up the bubbles it would definitely increase efficiency, especially with very close plate spacing. That's one problem I'm having with the 5volt cell; the bubbles decrease the active surface area and block current flow. Also, they make the current flow uneven.

GOOD STUFF MAN! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

[sirHOAX]

Thanks for all of your interest everyone. Will conduct further experiments to satisfy a lot of the questions that everyone has.

It is my conclusion up to this point, that the ultra sonic frequency is bombarding the fine HHO bubbles and forcing them into larger clusters.

Stay tuned for more updates! :=)

[glen196969]

annealing process? Can you tell me how important the exteme temps r? Could a back yard tinkerer remove the impurities with broil a cookie sheet and a sink full of ice water, perhaps salty? Does this process warp the metal?

[ZeroFossilFuel]

VERY interesting! You definitely need to start measuring your gas production volume. It's the only way to know if you're moving in the right direction.

It's either combining all the bubbles into larger clusters or surpressing the smaller bubbles. My gut says the first and that overall production remains about the same. At the very least, it sure makes it easier to see the reaction.

Again, measurement should be your mantra.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Also, you called it a Fish Pond Fogger? About how much do they cost and where do you get them?

[december105]

look on ebay they are there

[ZeroFossilFuel]

I wonder if you could couple the ultrasound through the outside wall of your tank so that you can seal the lid to take measurements?

[MrfixitRick]

I actually said "Wow" when it kicked in! 5 stars for surprise and a few more for good experimentation!

[CarbideTip]

Does the cell amps increase when ultra sonic is on? Showing theres more surface area not covered with bubbles.

[powerzap69]

sirhoax, powerzap69 here. good thought. back in the 70's they came out with a deal that was twelve volts that you attached to your air filter. it was an ultra sonic device. for atomising the fuel. i'll look thru my stuff to see if i still have it. good thinking. have you tried using on the outside of the container to utilise the container itself as an amplifier?

[dulcajack]

Hello Sir Hoax,

Great Video. Possible advantage of this? Reduced delay from power on to useful production. Instead of the bubbles being converted to foam. They could be immediately drawn off. Would this help with the start of a combustion engine by providing a higher initial concentration of hydrogen?

Thanks

Jack

[overunitydotcom]

Hi sirHoax,

I can verify that this ultrasonic bubbler method works. I had tested this also in one of my tests and there were no white bubbles anymore , just bigger transparent HHO bubbles !

Come to:

overunity dot com/index.php/board,8.0.html

to discuss this further.

Many thanks.

[marthale7]

how did you get these up to 1500 Deg? Did you use a tourch? how do you spell "aniling" Great work!

[MrfixitRick]

annealing is the word you want.

[pochintwin]

The Ultra Sonic looks like Tom Van Voorst video google search video "HHo cell deel 1"

[december105]

GREAT video Great idea but what the heck is the purpose of the Ultra Sonic Fish Pond Fogger, not in your use but in a fish pond ???

Can fish actually survive in a tank with that thing turned on???? Had a similar idea but was thinking of a ultra sonic humidifer , was fixing one once and got my finger to close to an operating transducer and wow it hurt!!! That was a long time ago but seems as though it was like a burn? Must give the fish a headache!!!!!

[thinkofwhy]

very ineteresting, indeed. ._.

[strapped9]

wow thats really something to ponder. think ill give the fogger a go myself and see how it effect output. thanks for another good vid.