The Anatomy Of An Aborted Flight. Takeoff Aborted on ERJ 145.

[SiMSMOViES12]

trust me I would be feeling the same exact way. I love flying...but I would want NO risks. If this were to happen to me I would just say to myself "if it wasn't safe, the pilot wouldn't fly it."

[unpracticalrunway]

@SiMSMOViES12 but then when there is an accident it means it wasn't as safe as the pilot thought it was.. :)

[cesaralexis73]

Thank God you made it back home safely.....

[DiamondPilotDan]

Another cool thing about this video is that it's at LGA. Because of the shorter runways, they pilots use near full power on takeoff, whereas at other airports they use reduced power.. Also less braking distance. Anyway, very cool

[lowball420]

Better engine problems that hydraulic problems

[RellyOhBoy]

Better safe than sorry.....

From a PAX perspective, I'd rather abort T/O due to an Oil Pressure fault than a compressor stall...That woulda scared the shit out of everyone..

[warminator]

Well, you had an "interessting" flight.. :D

Btw, the sound reminds me of the Fokker 100.

[twidgetfitch]

I was on an Airbus A390 (US Airways) that had to abort takeoff, at very high speed. We had already lifted off from the tarmac. The pilot brought us back down and we came to a stop extremely fast with the thrust reversers. I had no idea a passenger jet could stop so fast! It stopped much faster than on an ordinary landing. There was a major engine issue - I suspect we sucked in one of the hawks that were circling us before takeoff. When we stopped, both engines were smoking. Yikes!

[liberalinajd]

glad things went fine!

[carlobari60]

Ya know if this happened to me as a passenger I'd be so relieved to know they caught a problem before they got airborne. But I'll betcha some assholes on board were bitchin and moanin that they were going to be late to whereevr ....instead of thinking they could of been dead! Hate those kind of people with little brains.

[TheMeslava]

@rhymeandreasoning He also said they did a test flight. The aircraft was perfectly safe after the mechanic and everything came to inspect the engine. You know nothing about aircraft mechanics obviously if you just read the words "Add some oil" and you think that's all they did. Read a bit buddy.

[brgimscht]

but in case the engine would fail again the pilots could land the aircraft with one engine only safely without any problems...they're trained for such a situation!

[juanda893061]

It's just so great to be in the USA Air traffic. It's really cool, I love it.... Thanks for this amazing video and I hope you get a better aircraft next time ...LOL

[rcacad]

Captain Bonnie Hicks

[sixnightsaweek]

Great Viedo, But as a former pilot I would have requested another plane if one was ready, and 9 out 10 10 times there are. The Captain of that craft shout have never said well added some oile and then go around in circles to see if the presure came up. LikeI said great Vid. bad handling of the situation IMO.

[powervr250]

amazing start up sound

[4crevis]

@seatgurus Ok... thanks!

[natanoriel]

Im a E145 pilot - nowadays - for a local brazilian regional jet airliner. Prolly the safer aircraft that i ever flew. Released on 1988 still in 2011 without any report of casualties, only minor incidents. There is a profile on manual that claims to do NOT perform a "stop and go" TOff due to FOD ingestion on the turbines, so most ppl rather perform the Lign up and keep going TO, which is safer. Anyways, something went wrong on the engine parameters and the aborted TO is better than a regret.

[rhymeandreasoning]

"we added some oil" ?? what the heck are they doing, tossing a salad..she makes it sound so simple..a little prob with the engines ya'' we did some some circles on the runway, and ADDED SOME OIL..should be all ok now....---i would be like, C YA..

...great video though, i felt for ya.. Kirk..Montreal, Canada

[lowew79]

wait, why the hell do the windowshades need to be up for my safety?? What, is the pilot gonna run back in the cabin on takeoff roll and look out the window real quick??

[TheElguapo9]

@lowew79 So the flight attendant and other passengers can see if an exit is blocked with debris and/or fire in the case of an emergency evac during the takeoff.

[Tweekki]

oh crap, I'm scheduled to fly on a ERJ 145 this Christmas. I hate small planes, but hopefully I'll have better luck than you. Thanks for uploading!

[BananaT3arz]

6:04 AIR CANADA FTW!!!!!

[ribasabbas]

very nice clip man!! thanks for sharing

[nigemorgan]

Great video, really liked the comments and commentary.

[allanfresco02]

What an awesome video.... U indeed are very brave to get back on that jet!! Thanks for posting!

[nitrorory]

Good video. Very whiny engines on that plane. I dont know if I could actually get back onto a plane after a problem like that

[edmedmoped]

Can't say I'd be put in much comfort watching some bloke roll up in his van with a ladder to fix my plane. Great video!

[1jonle]

wow awesome view of the city!

[felixfelicis888]

Excellent audio!

[turnpike]

nice vid and comments!

[atlshook]

you did a great job on this video! i love it! in october im gonna be flying a erj 145 from atlanta, too newark! by the way what kind of phone do you have?

[ttugarygregory]

This was an awesome video! I've been on many RTO and have had to perform a few myself. I should err on the side of caution like you do, my first thought when the engine spool down on a RJO is how much of a delay I'm going to have to deal with! Again, great job.

[seatgurus]

@ttugarygregory Thanks Captain!

[trodmi]

@seatgurus I felt the same on fokker 100. And it didn't even have any problems.

[almostlate]

Dude, when i get plane tickets, i always get the wing with the engine spool. :)

or 1st class :P

[unpracticalrunway]

always assault the agents of your airline company until they give you a new plane, there is no reason for them to ask you to take this risk in exchange for saving money for them. break something at their counter desk if you have to, until they give you a new plane. always do this if you like life.

[vzclubbie]

@unpracticalrunway assault? hell no. have some decency.

[unpracticalrunway]

@vzclubbie they lack decency first if they give me a plane with a problem, and they do this to save money, so you think I will stay decent when someone says "hey please mate, let me save a little bit of money in exchange of you risking your life for me, even if I already have 450 000 more money than you" ? think about this situation calmly now.

[vzclubbie]

@unpracticalrunway haha yeah I know where you're coming from, but harass not assault lol. These sort of situations happen everyday, I've had a few flights delayed and watched the plane get fixed. Nothing ever eventuates, I'd be pleased to see engineers get onto things straight away, even better when the repair job doesn't take tooooo long :) . Obviously the problem here wasn't major and didn't have to go tech.

[unpracticalrunway]

@vzclubbie yes, the problem was dramatic and someone could have died. don't try to make a plane which has a problem go in the air, it is not clever.

[TacomaAttorney]

@unpracticalrunway If you are being serious, you are a moron.

[MrMjd245]

Be thankfull that it happened on the ground and not in the air :)

[griffith211]

Not sure if it has been commented on yet or not, but your note about the cabin pressurizing on takeoff is correct, but the sound you hear is certainly not the pressurization. It is the tires rolling on the runway. The pitch gets higher because you are going faster over the grooves

[griffith211]

@seatgurus It is all a factor of weight, density altitude, runway length, and surrounding terrain.

[ceferalvarezvallejo]

great video

[dyockey]

Even if an engine took a dump on you (very unlikely with modern day turbine engines), its still perfectly safe to fly on one engine. We practice it all the time in the sim and can practically do it with our eyes closed.

[unpracticalrunway]

@dyockey dyockey is right, no matter what is happening to the engine that you don't yet know about, on fire, broken metallic parts inside, bird strike whatev, it's perfectly safe do fly like that

[poopsyproductions]

@seatgurus Pure pilot preference. Most times the pilot can't just roll onto the runway and takeoff unless there is not much traffic. The brake take-off is mostly used to get to takeoff power without using space. Yes, the ERJ does blow snow even when it is 100+ degrees.

They rock a lot and even though I fly all the time I get worried with how shaky the plane feels when performing a steep bank on a sharp turn. Sometimes I worry we might go into an unrecoverable roll :D

I aim to be a pilot soon

[poopsyproductions]

I LOVE the sound of the ERJ and CRJ engines starting up. Love it so much.

[jordyboy321]

why was it aborted....great vid btw

[juanda893061]

@seatgurus You are so unlucky.

[dayradio65]

@seatgurus amen man. i would have needed a couple of back-to-back shots to get back on the same plane.

[theevilmeister]

That maximum thrust setting you noted is called CON (maximum CONtinuous) which is never used on a takeoff or inflight unless absolutely necessary (for whatever reason... ). There are two settings for takeoff, T/O-1 which is the max takeoff thrust as calculated by the FMS, and ALT T/O-1 which is a derated thrust setting. Those two are used most commonly on takeoff... not CON.

[misslittleboeing]

that happend 2 me on a tam flight,TWICE IN A ROW AT THE SAME FLIGHT

[GoUSofA]

Did you find out what the exact problem was with the engine?

[littlemasonkid]

@carmaster366 good one

[MrCars]

@seatgurus Sometimes, we need to give the engines time to stabilize and reach the same power level.

[jaydub919]

@seatgurus It depends entirely on takeoff weights and aircraft performance. If the flight is heavy, the pilot will spool the engines to takeoff power before releasing the brakes for best takeoff performance.  Rolling takeoffs have a weight penalty that must be applied and are fine when the takeoff weight is much lower than MTOW. At lower takeoff weights, takeoff performance can still be achieved on the roll with a shorter runway requirement.

[carmaster366]

Usually Pilots do it because LGA has short runways if the flight is full or has alot of weight to get enough speed for takeoff. Have u ever experienced this on any of your other flights departing LGA

[copaair]

@seatgurus it aint nothing serious at all, They are trained professionals doing what they are best at, and iff all compliances didn't fall under the FAAs Safety regulations then they wouldn't have put y'all back in the plane trust me. But I did love the video! :)

[yekane1]

@seatgurus haha yeah i would be to

[yekane1]

is that you saying "fuck sake" when boarding the plane again haha?

[cnknguyen]

Good editing, was strangely entertaining.

[TimmyAndEmma]

Interesting vid, well edited. I've had this happen a couple of times. Heathrow and Hong Kong. Makes me uneasy on the second attempt because I wonder if they found the fault..

At HKG it was a thrust reverser warning light..I really wish the captain hadn't told us that!

[1967beatlesfan]

Dude the sound is so clear! Iv'e never tried it but could I use the vid to make new sounds for the ERJ? I'll give you credit if I suceed. :D

[seatgurus]

@1967beatlesfan thanks and sure!

[ZbmwM5]

Those engines are so quiet! I've never been on an ERJ.... but impressive.

[SalocinTEN]

I liked the Android phone part at the beginning too. What model of phone is that?

[bagelboi66]

Excellent video. I wonder if the pilot throttled back in response to the oil pressure indication, or if s/he noticed that six seconds into the roll they didn't have takeoff power yet.

I would not find it disconcerting to be back aboard the same aircraft. Aircraft maintenance is highly-evolved and a fully-certified engine tech is as well-trained as a physician.The flight attendant's comments "we added some oil" was rather unprofessional even if it was true. Passengers do not need to know that.

[seatgurus]

@bagelboi66 thx. I have a question, you may or may not know the answer to it. Suppose we did take off and the Oil Pressure indicator came on..what do you think they would do?

[bagelboi66]

@seatgurus I am only qualified in a 172 Skyhawk, a light piston single. If I saw low oil press I'd monitor oil temp and return to the field without delay. If the oil temp is rising as pressure is falling I'd throttle back and declare an emergency.

Transport category aircraft are in a different class altogether and I have no training or expertise. My guess is that they would establish a positive rate then declare an emergency. In any event the first rule is always control the aircraft first.

[ImmortalSynn]

@seatgurus

You'd have little to worry about... oil pressure is independent, and the aircraft is certified to perform all 5 phases of flight (even takeoff at full weight) on one engine completely independent of the other. You would've been fine.

[trollydodger]

@seatgurus well, at V2 the aircraft is safe to climb with 1 engine, then when the oil pressure came down, they would circle, probably fuel dump then land asap. nothing the pilots would find hard due to training. theres more chance of being struck by lightning than dying on an modern day commercial airliner, more boeing and airbus tho.

[MrCars]

@seatgurus As a pilt myself I will answer this one for you. If the indicator came on and the aircraft was well above V1 (The speed in which an aircraft must take off) then the engine would probably be shut down and the aircraft would return to the airport safely.

[koldun12]

@MrCars I heard about V1 speed, but why it is a must for take off? How come they cant stop even at full speed?

[MrCars]

@koldun12 Because at V1 it means there is not a sufficient amount of runway left for the aircraft to stop at the speed it is travelling.

[randomstuff5464]

Weird. I have rarely had an ERJ pilot use reversers on landing. Just really forceful braking. :)

[BobWeaver112]

The ERJ and CRJ both have basic cruise speeds of Mach .78. There is no difference in block time between the two.

[cinkmoot]

You arrived pretty quick, haha...................just kidding.

That was a relief when you heard the pilot throttle down and start slowing down. Good thing she hadn't reached V1.

[Sibsko21]

Grade A beautiful takeoff. and i would be that scared because the aircraft has another working engine that can take the wieght enough to have an emergency landing

[seatgurus]

@Sibsko21 thx and come back in jan 2011 and I will have a ton more videos for us :)

[MrCars]

Wonderful sounds! Was one of the pilots a woman over the P.A.?

[seatgurus]

@MrCars Yeah, the pilot was a woman. i saw here on our way out the first time and she was very reassuring and hot :)

[codyl1992]

interesting, kinda exposes the fact that despite the incredible reliability, these things aren't perfect.

[seatgurus]

@codyl1992 yeah. and to think of the fact that they made us sit on the same plane was well..scary!

[RicardoNY1]

Nice one! Looks like the engines didn't spool up past the synch stage.

[seatgurus]

@RicardoNY1 you're right. the scary thing was - we flew the same aircraft after they fixed whatever was wrong. that in itself is scary!!! :)

[u1r1a1c1u1n1t]

Nice vieo

[emirates0777]

Nice video!