Glasgow : Catholic Church :Sanity Over Sectarianism Pt.2 Catholic Church

[gstar1970]

There is no right not to be offended. No such right exists in law. Indeed, various legal rulings recently have made it clear that offending someone is perfectly legal.. What you cannot do is incite hatred or encourage assault of any type.

[haverstock1888]

Over one BILLION and half member cant be wrong end off argument Thomas Haverstock

[LetReasonPrevail1]

Fuck the Catholic Churhc & their hysterical, old, sinister, child-molesting priests.

Oh, I'm sorry. Did I offend you?

Guess what? Get over it. The time for these idiot fucks to hold sway over our lives is OVER!

[Islandretreat]

Ridiculous, he's actually questioning whether we should have freedom of speech or not. Protesting = "a cancer"? Not according to God Almighty.

Popery is counterfeit Christianity. The Roman anti-Christ of Scripture exalteth himself in the Church against Christ and all that is called God. Psuedoxristos...characterised by deception and counterfeit.

Every man of God is obliged to protest and express complete disapproval of the Romish institution.

[ThinWhiteBuddha09]

...By writing a strongly worded letter to The Times?

[Islandretreat]

By pointing out to Roman Catholics that there's nothing remotely Christian about the Papal system. Roman Catholics need false idols to fit their unbelieving hearts. And by pointing out to 'Loyalists' the Roman Papacy's doctrine of Temporal power. Telling them that the Jesuits of Rome totally control what was once known as "Great" Britain. They need to accept the fact that the Queen is a pope serving witch and that our troops are being sent to foreign lands to fight a Papal crusade.

[ThinWhiteBuddha09]

Yikes! Have you considered asking your MP to raise this issue in the House of Commons?

Seriously, if you are so concerned about Catholic temporal ambitions, then you should consider joining the National Secular Society and try to stop religious preference and encourage a truly secular country where diverse faiths are equal before the state like say... the Republic of Ireland ...where there is a true separation of church and state.

[Islandretreat]

Religious preference? Every event in history is either before or after the LORD Jesus Christ. The Bible put the great in Great Britain and Rome's immoral theologians took it back out. I'll be joining no society that bows to Rome. The Jesuits have infiltrated the Protestant Churches and carved the world up into ten Assistancies. Britain is part of the West Europe Assistancy. A papal vassal state controlled by war mongering Romanists, Knights of Malta (Tony Blair etc) and their Jesuit masters.

[Islandretreat]

Tell any MP that and they'd clam up.

[Islandretreat]

Tell Roman Catholic George Galloway that and he'll clam up! He's busy blaming "Protetsant" Britain and America for invading Muslims lands but he never mentions the fact that Tony Blair and George Bush were serving their popish masters. And he never mentions the fact that Rupert Murdoch is a Papal Knight of St Gregory the Great. A war mongering Romanist masquerading as a Jew. Why doesn't Galloway mentions any of this? Because he's nobody's friend except that Nazi in Rome.

[ThinWhiteBuddha09]

If Mssrs Bush and Blair really were serving the Pontiff then they would have not have invaded Iraq since the Pope opposed this.

[Islandretreat]

Bush is just as Catholic as Hitler was and we never hear in the Vatican controlled media that Blair is a [Papal] Knight of Malta. I.E., a war mongering Romanist serving his Jesuit masters (why do you think he's now lecturing in a Jesuit university in USA?). The Knights of Malta were formed almost a thousand years ago to invade Muslim lands and conquer Jerusalem for the Papacy. As always, the Papacy starts all the wars and then laps up the praise for "opposing" them and acting as peace maker.

[Islandretreat]

The Jew hating, Bible despising, bigoted Papist George Galloway never mentions the fact that that war criminal Tony Blair is a Papal Knight of Malta. And he never mentions the fact that George W Bush is in the Skull & Bones Society, totally controlled by the Jesuits of Rome. He's the only MP who speaks out on this topic and yet he never mentions these highly significant facts. He's duped all his Muslim followers by "opposing" the war but he hasn't folloed everybody.

[Islandretreat]

fooled*

[wayofthecass]

Hello. You don't appear to be interested in the subject of these documentaries and stating that Tony Blair is a Knight of Malta ( which is completely impossible as he's pro abortion and only a recently converted to Catholicism) and that George W Bush ( a Methodist) is a subject of the Pope make you sound completely insane. Please take it else where. Thanks.

[Islandretreat]

I'm staying on subject the trouble is you don't want to hear it. It was Tony Blair the closet Papist who legalized gay marriage and adoption for his Jesuit masters who incidentally legalized abortion in "Protestant" Britain too. As previously stated, the UK is totally controlled by Papists like Cormac Murphy O'Connor and morals have declined accordingly! I'll take it elsewhere but don't sit there and tell me what i have said about Bush and Blair is impossible when its a matter of fact.

[wayofthecass]

Catholicism promotes homosexuality and abortion and is controlling the UK,,,,,Hilarious. Bravo. Somebody should tell Peter Tatchell.

[Islandretreat]

Why reply with this infantile nonsense?

Rome promotes Homosexuality. The Jesuits infiltrated the Protestant Churches and now we have Churches which consist entirely of homosexuals.

Not only does Rome control Britain. Rome controls the EU, African Union, American Union and the Asian Union. Their plan for a one world Government is in the latter stages. Britain is run by high level Freemasons, various Knights (of Malta, St.Gregory etc) and Opus Dei members, all subordinate to the Jesuits.

[Islandretreat]

Elizabeth II is "Princess of the Holy Roman Empire (EU)" and guilty of high treason. The quicker Loyalists and Republicans accept these facts the better for everyone. Take the IRA for example, totally controlled by MI5 & MI6 which in turn is controlled by the Knights of Malta subordinate to the Jesuits. Now that might be a bit much for you to comprehend but it doesn't make it any less factual. The Jesuits, as always, create the problem and control both sides of the conflict.

[Islandretreat]

If you would like me to take it elsewhere then please refrain from sneering at someone who is telling you the truth. We're at war right now and people are dying. And on the subject of war, ask yourself why British and American soldiers in Afghanistan are told to shoot anything that moves but whatever they do don't touch the poppy crops when 90% of heroin on the streets of Scotland comes from Afghanistan? The pope's poppy crops....Its to keep us in ignorance and this Government is a part of it!

[wayofthecass]

The Pope's poppy crop? Haha. What utter shite people like you talk.

[wayofthecass]

"Take the IRA for example, totally controlled by MI5 & MI6 which in turn is controlled by the Knights of Malta subordinate to the Jesuits. Now that might be a bit much for you to comprehend but it doesn't make it any less factual."

Now who could argue with that? I love the pish you get on here. Factual? Where are your facts? Oh yeah I forgot. You just saying it makes it so.

[Gozzillacia]

Actually my best Benedictine monk jokes goes; a Benedictine monk is waiting his turn outside the gates of heaven. Seeing the kind of riff-raff theyre letting in he approaches the gates with some confidence. Hey you, says St. Peter. Youre fur the other place.

But I never did a bad thing my entire life, splutters the monk. Aye, and you never did a good thing either - ya bastard. Replies the saint.

[Gozzillacia]

When you've travelled you realise what a small country Scotland is - we are a bit like the Jews though - historically we have punch well over our weight, but unlike the Jews recently ( historically speaking ) we have lost all our self-belief. The line between ned culture and our petty tribal factionalism, our clinging to the voodoo of our religions and our loss of belief in nation is not obscure. When the dumbest in society are full of swagger there is usually vision at the top.

[wayofthecass]

Clinging to the voodoo of our religions? How many Neds do you think are immersed in religion? Not many. Now a Benedictine monk. There is a man who's life is dictated by religion. As for the wee guy in the lane with the alcho-pop and Burberry cap he's just about as far from that kind of faithful discipline as I can think.

We live in a secular borderline atheist society. Blaming religion is grasping at straws and simply making excuses.

[Gozzillacia]

Religion does not play a part in ned culture? Ask one, Billy or a Tim? But its the holy willies like you who cling to the voodoo. The neds are the feral children of our fractured society. Monks (of any superstition) they live the quintessence of selfish, self-absorbed lives. If you want to serve god dig a ditch, feed a child, not float around in medieval garb mumbling to yourself. Neds are weeds in a fallow field uncultivated - while good people like you polish your halos or your mace.

[Gozzillacia]

Only a bottle of Mateus Rose!

[Gozzillacia]

Typo - there that should be lack of vision at the top. Another glass of Mateus I thinkto steady the hand - it's much under-rated you know.

[Gozzillacia]

And if patriotism is not based on geography what do you suggest it is based on?

[wayofthecass]

The amount you drink on a Saturday night.

[Gozzillacia]

No, the CC is not the sum of its parts it is a hierarchy and you are a lowly punter, not the Pope. You remind me of the poor deluded Loyalist who assured me, Buckingham Palace belongs to the people of Britain. And that sad f**ker lived in a hostel. And sure identity does not depend apon where you were born, if you were born in space you would still be a numpty not a star. But identity does depend on race, history and location.

[Gozzillacia]

I'd remove a lot more - ( Celtic and Rangers for one ) but the real neds in Scotland wear robes and sashes and live in nice semi-detatched houses for the most part.

These "respectable" members of our society are the real causes of the fracturing of Scotish society - the numpties with knives are only a sypmtom, shaddows of the cause they are three times removed from. And who my friend is a bigger "boogie man" than the big bad capitalist - in a top hat in your tiny mind presumably.

[wayofthecass]

So if this is an example of what society would be like without the Orange Order and Catholic church? Referring to people's 'tiny minds' etc.

You've just shown yourself incapable of not resorting to taking an argument into the realms of personal insults.

blaming Ned culture on the aforementioned groups is patently ridiculous.

So what's the excuse in England then?

Or in France? Or in just about every bloody country?

Oh I forgot social problems are specific to Glasgow. Silly me.

[Gozzillacia]

Sensitive! I lived in England, I saw about as much ned culture there in 20 years as I usually did in two weeks in Glasgow. It's a matter of scale. But what thuggery there was was down to the same causes as is endemic in Scotland - vested interests protecting their little fiefdoms thriving on division with absolutely no regard for society as a whole let alone country. The Catholic Church and the Orange Order is simply ned culture writ large. If you can't see that then you have indeed a tiny mind.

[wayofthecass]

"vested interests protecting their little fiefdoms thriving on division"

You watch too much X-Files. Nobody puts the knifes, needle or buckie bottles in their hands. Though this is one of the most ludicrously hilarious conspiracy theories I've ever heard.

The powers that be are fostering Ned and Chav culture to maintain control? Sure they are. Take some more medicine punchy.

[wayofthecass]

The Cathiolic church sposnor and encourage ned culture? I'm sorry but that is complete bullshit. Are you a Catholic? Have you spent any time in the presence of Catholics?

Your above statement sounds like the inane rantings of a lunatic.

Though I'm beginning to see the little cracks in your argument. Earlier you'd lived in Scotland your whole life now your claiming to have lived in England for 20 years. So more bullshit then.

[Gozzillacia]

You really don't get it. I am not talking about Catholics - I am talking about the Church and the Lodge and all the strata of rat minded power grubbers. Scots have African levels of tribalism ( not to mention snobbery )easily exploited by amoral petty power hungry gangsters like the CC and the OO - Another example; Scots polis think they are middleclass warriors -ha. Neds are only a reflection of a nation that broils in self-hatred.

In the age of atomization it is tribe or nation.

[wayofthecass]

So the Catholic church are power hungry and the fuel behind neds/ anti-social behaviour and hatred!!! Sure they are. And don't worry. I get it. Its a baseless rant.

As for 'Scots have African levels of Tribalism'. I guess you would have to get of your pedestal to see just how ridiculous that claim is.

Obviously you haven't watched the docu or taken any of the points on board. Probably because they are all liars privy to this grand elaborate power conspiracy.

[wayofthecass]

And please don't waste my time with your tiptoeing around what your really trying to say. The Catholic church is the sum of its parts. It is what its followers are. That statement sounded right out of Ian Paisley and Jack Glass's book. 'Oh no I mean its not you I despise its just your religious, moral and cultural identity.' Again. Sure!

As for identity being based on where your born. Bollocks. Born in a stable doesn't make you a horse. Patriotism is mindless if only based on geography.

[Gozzillacia]

Imagine a Scotland without the amoral power cult that is the Catholic Church and its symbiotic chum the thuggish little knot of filth that is the Orange Order -- one Scottish people enjoying the Garden of Eden that is Scotland -- rise up Scotland and crush both these enemies of Scotland.

[wayofthecass]

LOL! Looks like somebody has been reading too much Lord of the Rings. Going by the above comments you obviously haven't spent much time here.

[Gozillacia]

Only 50 years - I guess the difference between me and you is you have never really traveled(?) To borrow a construct - "What does a Scotsman know of Scotland that only Scotland knows?" If every Scot lived elsewhere for five years then maybe we'd appeciate what we've got? If you my friend look up and do not see the beauty all around you, you are indeed blind and you may as well joint the other two blind mice ( the orange and the blue ) scraping in a sack - they do say there were three.

[wayofthecass]

If you genuinely believe that the removal of the Catholic Church and Orange Order will lead to Scotland being 'The Garden of Eden' then I can only assume your experiences of this nation otherwise were viewed through an LSD haze or that you don't get out much. Such removal won't solve a decaying health system, NED, knife and Buckie culture or address the growing levels of economic inequality. People need to wake up and stop blaming mythical boogie men!

[johnny65]

the wars over lads stop bickering fer fuck sake, FATLAD will soon be part of the republic, to our governments shame. Fermanagh, Antrim, Tyrone, Londonderry, Armagh, Ill let you clever twats figure out the county 'D'.

[irishrepublicanarmy1]

your a dick thistlewarrior.Dont you know Ulster is a part of Britain.Another thick proddy in the mist.

The provos will set us free.Up the Ra.

[thistlewarrior]

Dont you know so is Scotland! Doesnt mean i'm happy with it!

Anyway what the fuck has religion got to do with my comment ya deluded bigoted fuck!?

Fuck the Ra fuck the UDA and all the other cowardly pricks that do their killing behind a mask!!

[ryanbhoy7]

Please stop... im killing myself laughing at you, you're just digging yourself an even bigger hole and exposing how dumb you really are. I think you may be a retard, but thats ok ill not hold it against u! UP THE RA!

[thistlewarrior]

WOW, really clever response! Keep it up ya wee bigoted moron!

[ryanbhoy7]

I give up with you, you're dumbess person ive ever encountered.

[thistlewarrior]

And your intelligence just shines through for all to see!!

If I'm the dumbest person you've ever encountered, then you must be very friendly with those folk at MENSA.

Try not to just following the accepted arguments and think outside the box for once!

Independence for Scotland and Ulster and you take the rug away from under all the United Ireland/United Kingdom pish once and for all.

So simple even you should be able to understand that!

[ryanbhoy7]

nae bother mate

[thistlewarrior]

Fuck Britain and Fuck Ireland.

Long live Scotland and Ulster!

[jamiehcfc]

Bit ae a contradiction there pal

[thistlewarrior]

Where's the contradiction? A United Britain and a United Ireland only causes bad shit. Time both Scotland and Ulster stopped hanging onto the coat-tails of others and stood up for themselves.

[jamiehcfc]

England causes and started the truble and then makes out that the IRA are savages and terrorists becaue they fight for the country and want it to be whole again , basically what they done to Scotland and Wales.

[ryanbhoy7]

thistlewarrior - that didnt make any sense ya fanny!!

[thistlewarrior]

ryanbhoy7_thats because you're thick ya prick!!

[ryanbhoy7]

fuk the huns!!!

[saraj12]

FUCK THE QUEEN.

[theauldflute]

FUCK THE POPE.

[1niallscotirish]

A FUCKED YER MAW.

[theauldflute]

no i fucked her and she loved a bit of orange

[theauldflute]

No your Priest fucked YOUR MAW!!!!! hahaha you feinian fucker.

[britsOUT2]

So it is one thing to say abortion is wrong, but to say abortionists are dirty murdering bastards is another. It is the way things are expressed, that is , the form of expression, that needs to be looked at.

[theauldflute]

ALL TAIGS ARE "TARGETS"

[britsOUT2]

A very thoughtful, insightful analysis of the problem...the most eloquent contributor by a long margin. He identifies the dilemma which the executive has to confront which is the interface between freedom of speech and the right not to be offended. He suggests that where the motivation is to cause offence then that should be outlawed, therefore fuck the pope/queen would clearly fall into that category. Incantations which are designed to provoke or incite hatred are anti-social and should not

[campbo]

Bocher222 - In that case we are better off without you

[JamesJG007]

barrach7 its very telling that you didnt see a problem growing up. Most people didnt unless brought up in a family of entrenched fear. Zionists see it as advantageous to fan the flames of sectarianism. They stand to gain while the working and middle classes fight eachother. (They quietly take over US & UK, BBC, NHS etc. Check out 'stringpullers the israel lobby' to see what theyre capable of.

[SuperAlly321]

When will people realise that it's religion itself that is the problem. It is complete man-made, superfluous, illogical, bronze-age mythical nonsense. How anyone could possibly take the brutality contained within the Bible as a moral code boggles the mind. Protestantism, Catholicism, Islam, Judaism..... -- all bullshit.

Good people will do good things, bad people will do bad things, but for a good person to do bad things -- it takes religion.

[calamity1971]

I wish people would just accept that there's no god, then we'd all maybe get on a bit better.

[bocher222]

i'm leaving scotland i can't smoke and can't be a bigot i'm aswell dead.

[barrach7]

A reasoned talk by this guy - basically it's a very difficult issue - and one that's impossible to balance.

Make no mistake though - it's NOT a Scottish problem...it's a central-West Coast Scottish problem. (I was brought up nr Inverness and no problems there - except for the odd incomer from the west central-belt.)

[rysa26]

He got parachuted in by the RC Church coz they were making an absolute arse of themselves over Bishops having secret weans, paedophiles being promoted, nuns being sadists etc. They had to be more "media savvy" and Convery, Simon Dames & Co are the spin merchants. Simple as that! SO FUCK IWOULD RATHER DO ALL OF THE ABOVE , RATHER THAN BEING APROTESTING ORANGE MAN ,fanny boz

[davycarton]

He got parachuted in by the RC Church coz they were making an absolute arse of themselves over Bishops having secret weans, paedophiles being promoted, nuns being sadists etc. They had to be more "media savvy" and Convery, Simon Dames & Co are the spin merchants. Simple as that!

[wedeservedit]

what the hell is this guys point? he chats some shit!

[sambomcl]

Who's children did he actually mean when he said "my children"?

[highrisetim]

worked with this toad hes horrible

[EAWSportsVideos]

It is a part of life in Scotland, although people do not like to admit this, it is worse in places like Northern Ireland though.

It is a complicated matter and sectarianism between Catholic and Protestant people or Irish republicanism supporters and Loyalist supporters will never be stopped fully.

Thanks for uploading these videos, I find it interesting.

[RobMcDougall]

Thank god I live in America... "The right not to be offended"? You've gotta be kidding me.

[gingerhairs]

Yes, well said. I feel sectarianism is rife here in everyday life in West Scotland.