How Radical Professors Indoctrinate Students - David Horowitz (3 of 8)

[leonidas512]

totally crap, leftism may have the appearance of tolerance, but its a vila ideology de-humanizing the individual in favor or borg-like-collectivist thinking.

[majordbag2]

While I would agree that there is some amount of bias in the school system, I think this is more or less a straw man argument. Women's studies and peace studies tend to be leftist but those are the just single departments in the university system. Also there are plenty of conservative private schools out there and, while most of my professors are relatively leftist, all have been generally respectful and when grading papers grade so on the quality of arguments made and evidence used.

[jscarter79]

@majordbag2 private schools, not state schools, which there are hundreds of.

[bklee83]

this is exactly why america is in the shithole it is in now...companies wanting people with a degree...to get the degree you have to go to these institutions...you get indoctrinated in these institutions to think a certain way...also...just to put it out there...imo most of the people coming from and working for these "institutions"...need to be...institutionalized...long live on the job training...for the job you want...not "core classes" you will never need for the field you wish to study...

[leonidas512]

@bklee83 , companies dont want people with degrees perse, what is AT&T research going to do with a lefto pinko girl who did womens studies?

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Jack shit!

[bklee83]

@leonidas512 ...of course a phone company doesnt want someone with a womans studies degree...they want someone with a degree in a field that will help their company...if they(any company) would just train someone in the first place rather than want only someone schooled for a specific area the country would be better off...cant argue with your views on the left though

[spiritparaclete]

Horowitz = JEW...

Jews are the biggest brainwashers and psychologizers and feminazi mind controls in the world....

[beesleeper]

Republican pieces of shit want absolute corporate plutocratic control of everything, and this includes silencing those last few rational voices from professors. Privatize everything, who will be able to speak freely ? Capitalism is an absolute moral and functional failure. This totalitarian gambit of the right is a final effort to prevent a complete change. But guess what . The fake grass-roots Koch Brothers Americans for prosperity, the fake tea party, and all the rightist think tanks: fail.

[figocooldude]

Neoclassical economics, the only accepted economics academically, is sooo political.

You all need to read Foucault and understand how power operates. Courses are not so innocent, knowledge indoctrinates.

[Pomiferous]

Good post. thank you

[cawright2007]

And for the record, when I was a freshmen in 2002, my economics teacher told me the free market was the best possible way to allocate resources, and that the SEC would prevent Wall Street greed from ever balancing the card pyramid to high or too dangerously. Well shit then in 2008 I got laid off as the economy tanked while State Intervention kept Wall Street aliv . I wonder if that guy is still teaching. Maybe Horowitz ought to go after him as a propagator of dangerous ideas!

[cawright2007]

Harrassment against liberal faculty in this country reminds me of the episode in V: The Miniseries (1984), where the aliens fake an anti-alien conspiracy among scientists. They use this to dupe people into mistrusting all scientists, and ignoring their advice- the advice of the most educated and intelligent people who could have warned them of the aliens' plans.

[oldstock1607]

Last year a college history teacher actually told me that she sees her role as a history teacher as merely a vehicle to push her leftist political agenda on her students. At least she was honest.

[tristramshandy3]

If the right wants to be represented in academia, it needs to check itself out of the mental hospital it went into many moons ago. Seriously, the right is intellectually bankrupt today, so it is no surprise that the intellectual movement is dominated by the left.

The fundamental issue facing the republic is the unprecedented rise of corporate power, and those on the right call for lower taxes.

Get serious about your analysis, and then get back to us. We would very much enjoy a conversation.

[tristramshandy3]

If you want to be told what to think, go to an American k-12 school. There, you will be brainwashed into an unquestioning, mindless, and fatally dangerous pseudo patriotism, full of nonsensical, easily debunked revisionist garbage.

College SHOULD serve as a healthy balance to the nationalistic propaganda that pervades our k-12 system.

Viva Montaigne!

[DreamFreedom1]

If it's really that bad by now in the US it's sad. I can just say from personal experience (which was at other times and places though) that I had largely "left-wing" lecturers, too, but as an intelligent and critical student you actually know if someone is giving a one-sided view and therefore is indoctrinating. Also I have to hold to my own professors credit that critical thinking and diverting opinions were appreciated and rewarded. Humanities and social sciences "live" from contradictions

[consolidatedbits]

Universities in America are citadels of political correctness and centers of Marxist brainwashing. And the taxpayers are paying for it. David Horowitx knows what he is talking about.

[statewithinastateuk]

Wow! 80% of US professors are unbiased! In the UK as far as I know 100% of professors are on the political left.

[tristramshandy3]

@statewithinastateuk there's a reason smart people wind up leftists. As Thoreau stated, "with wisdom, we shall learn liberality."

Have a nice day!

[Dadutta]

@tristramshandy3 name one smart leftist, idiot.

[tristramshandy3]

@Dadutta Jefferson, Paine, Martin Luther King Jr., Ralph Waldo Emerson, Henry David Thoreau, Kurt Vonnegut.

There's a small sample of smart leftists.

Do you have examples of smart people on the right?

I don't really know of any.

[Dadutta]

@tristramshandy3 Jefferson was NOT on the left. Martin Luther King was a republican who hated abortion. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. Since you consider these two men intelligent, I have now named two intelligent right-wingers. want more? Hayek Ludwig von Mises Benjamin Franklin Gouverner Morris Mark Steyn Rush Limbaugh Milton Friedman Evan Sayet Jonah Goldberg John Stossel John Locke Dinesh D'souza Reagan Adams Ron Paul

[tristramshandy3]

@Dadutta MLK also hated war and social injustice- that's why he was organizing a poor people's movement. Jefferson was anti-religion, pro-education; hey, JUST like most of my liberal friends.

Friedman, Stossel? LOL! That's adorable. I'm glad you think those ideological imbeciles are smart.

But why are we dealing in abstraction?

I will debate you on any issue and show that I am far smarter than you.

Bring it.

[allweneedofhell]

@tristramshandy3 With the greatest of respect Tristam, do you honestly think you could out wit Milton Friedman in a debate concerning economics? I think it would be wise to consider this point sincerely before hurling insults at the man. May I ask what you have achieved in your lifetime that gives you the right to refer to such a brilliant mind as an imbecile? May I also ask if you prefer Keynesian economics (an entirely defensible system) or you just reject capitalism in general?

[tristramshandy3]

@allweneedofhell compared to today's right wingers, Friedman is certainly not an imbecile. My main beef with him is that I don't hear him stress the importance of education and the flow of information as prerequisites, without which, his precious capitalism is as useless as any other "ism".

My theory: educationalism. It means that I would prefer a capitalist country with a well educated population to a socialist country without a good education system; and the converse is true as well.

adios

[v44forme1]

@tristramshandy3 Then how can the poor people of the USA send their kids to school, when the rich destroyed the middle class? Its class warfare, division of wealth and education, its crimminal. Equal opportunity is equality, freedom and rights are a god given right to all peoples around the world, yet the rich steal their right to prosper, to live on their lands, free from wars, free from pain. Pres Andrew Jackson said if we over throw governments and impose our rule,  that it will happen here

[Dadutta]

@tristramshandy3 You are simply wrong. Get your facts STRAIGTH. MLK was a Republican, he would have despised you for your abortions. Friedman, Hayek, Mises, Franklin, these were geniuses who eclipse you and your clownish idols. FUCK YOU

[tristramshandy3]

@Dadutta first of all, hello. How are you? Secondly, if you read the speeches of King, you will read the works of a FAR LEFT liberal who is primarily concerned with social justice - code for communism according to the whackos on the right.

King was far left- so was Jesus.

The dude so many of you numskulls pretend to worship.

Have a great day!

Viva Montaigne and John Stuart Mill!

[Jakepod34]

@tristramshandy3 Jesus was not a liberal. Jesus Christ would never support the abortion of an unborn child, he would never support same sex marriage because it is not natural (and you never see male animals humping each other or females humping each other), and he would never allow evil terrorists back into a country that they want to blow up and kill as many people as possible. Jesus was not a Democrat or a Republican, and you should be ashamed that you compared him to a political party.

[tristramshandy3]

@Jakepod34 the communist creed is "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need".

When Jesus, according to legends, turned a few loaves into lots of food- he GAVE IT AWAY to those that NEEDED it.

FROM each according to their ability. TO each according to their need.

The dude was a communist- according to the legends.

Have a nice day!

[Jakepod34]

@tristramshandy3 Do you even understand that China has a worse poverty rate than the US? Communism in a perfect form would not be so bad, but Communism has never been fair and never will be because their is no such thing as TRUE Communism. And btw, rich people give to the needy all the time. If you take money away from the people who have it, who will donate or give away money? The answer is no one because they have little the way it is. You are crazy and I am just going to leave it at that.

[tristramshandy3]

@Jakepod34 Who mentioned China? I totally understand that communism is not compatible with industrialism- too much specialization. I have never advocated communism as a solution to capitalism.

My reply was about the politics of jesus christ as portrayed in legends written long ago (and since "updated" for political purposes many times over).

As he is represented in that book- he is a COMMUNIST. He owns no possessions and shares of everything he creates equally with all. Those are his ACTIONS.

[Jakepod34]

@tristramshandy3 Communists OUTLAW RELIGION and KILL those who defy their law. THE PEOPLE ARE CONTROLLED 100% BY THE GOVERNMENT HOW IS THAT JESUS-LIKE? Jesus allowed his followers to have FREE WILL, in which the people can make their OWN CHOICES. You are telling me that Communism allows free will to the people? Last I heard, that is what Democracy flourishes on... the hard work and free will of the people. I am Catholic, do not pretend that you know more about Jesus Christ than me.

[tristramshandy3]

@Jakepod34 first of all RELAX. Stop SCREAMING at me with your CAPITAL LETTERS :). Secondly, can you answer the following questions please: what possessions did Jesus own; and, what did he do with excess food that he created?

Did he do what a capitalist would do- sell extra stuff for a profit? OR, did he do what a communist would have done- given it all away to those who needed it?

In that context, Jesus was definitely a commie.

That is my point, and my point is valid.

Have a great day!

[Rammagith]

@tristramshandy3 You don't need to know the life of Jesus to say that he was not a socialist/communist. He preaches selflessness and charity...that is not the same as having a government dictating a policy of ideological enforcement and economic distribution of capital by a ruling government class/bourgeoisie that has been proven by history to be a dismal failure. Selflessness and giving through ones own volition is utterly independent of a state controlled ideology.

[tristramshandy3]

@Rammagith I will repeat, because it seems you struggle to comprehend. Communism is a system where everyone gets according to their need, and everyone gives according to their ability.

Jesus PERSONIFIED this belief system by his actions, which were 100% compatible with communism.

He was a COMMUNIST. He did NOT believe in selling excess for profit, he believed in GIVING IT AWAY to the NEEDY.

This isn't about government policy- this is about a man's actions (according to tall tales)

[Rammagith]

@tristramshandy3 It's not that I struggle to comprehend, it's just that you have a warped view of what communism is, which is a theory Marx created where property and production are controlled by the state, and every country who followed this were corrupt, brutal or genocidal, and destitute. Again, Jesus advocates giving and selflessness, not state totalitarianism, which is the center of communism. This isn't to be contested what I am saying is fact.

[tristramshandy3]

@Rammagith no industrialized country has ever attempted communism. it's strange that so many in the USA refer to dictatorial regimes as communist, when they don't resemble communism in any way, shape, or form.

if we are discussing jesus and his personal politics, according to legends, I think one must conclude he was a communist. I base this judgment on his ACTIONS. Do you have anything to refute that his actions are clearly those of a communist?

Take care.

Viva Montaigne!

[scotts689]

@tristramshandy3 Was the Soviet Union before Stalin an example of communism in your opinion?

[tristramshandy3]

@scotts689 well, let's look at what communism actually IS. It is a system where everyone gets what they need, and contributes what they can. It is an egalitarian system at its heart.

So, was the USSR egalitarian? No. Therefore, it was not communism. It was simple totalitarianism where a small group seized power and used it to their advantage.

Not communism.

Have a great day!

[tristramshandy3]

@mutabrev I have looked at the ACTIONS of Jesus, as they are relayed in old, suspicious texts, and it is crystal clear that his ACTIONS are those of a communist. He did not OWN property or possessions- JUST like communism, and he gave away excess food stuffs to the needy- JUST like communism.

The dude was a commie. And if he was alive today, the same propagandists who claim to love him would be calling him anti-American, and all sorts of other mean names.

Same with MLK.

Take care!

[mutabrev]

@tristramshandy3 I never saw a commie walk on water, or forgive sins. When we see him again we will all be on our knees, some in adoration , but most in terror. He will render to each according to their deeds,not according to their needs.

[tristramshandy3]

@mutabrev Do you have ANY idea how silly your post sounds to an agnostic human being? If not, let me tell you: it is CRAAAZZZZYYYY silly; insane silly; bonkers, batshit, rubber room crazy.

Have a nice day.

I wonder why your christian god created billions of muslims, hindus and buddhists.

Strange....

[mutabrev]

@tristramshandy3 It shouldn't sound that fantastic to an agnostic but maybe to an atheist. Anyway are you aware of being schizophrenic? because i was responding to your assertion that the Jesus you read about in the bible was a commie by his actions. I actually have a far more orthodox view of who Jesus is than yourself.

[tristramshandy3]

@mutabrev it sounds INSANE to an agnostic because an agnostic is a person who, when it comes to god, how we got here and where we go when we die, can only answer: I don't know. So anyone who claims that they DO know sounds like a fool, frankly.

And that is what you sound like when you go spewing bronze age fairy tales, and expect to be taken seriously.

Go study Buddhism- it's a FAR more enlightened, superior system of beliefs- if you need such a thing.

Viva Montaigne!

[leonidas512]

@tristramshandy3 , God created free will, and its not about believing in monoteism,..,its about the golden rule, and most religions have that,..,except for Thug religion and islam to name a few

[tristramshandy3]

@leonidas512 god doesn't exist- and if, on the 0.00000000000000001% chance the god of the old testament does exist, he is a jealous, insecure asshole who does not deserve our allegiance or respect.

The golden rule was created by confucius, a secular man, long before jesus ever existed- if he did.

have a nice day.

[tristramshandy3]

it's adorable how you take the word liberal and make it mean "pro-abortion".

I am as liberal as anyone I know, and abortion is NOT a major issue to me. Yet, when you talk about jesus or mlk's politics, they are right wing, accprding to you, because they were anti-abortion.

It's ridiculous to make such claims.

I have read the "words" of jesus. Didn't mention abortion.

Same with MLK.

They were FAR more concerned with poverty.

Why aren't you and others on the right?

[demoncleaner45]

@Dadutta MLK, who was a committed socialist and was calling for economic equality at the time of his death? Reagan, who never picked up a book in his life? Rush Limbaugh? Jonah Goldberg? Either you haven't actually heard/read those people or you're a complete ideological and ignorant tool. Take your pick.

[statewithinastateuk]

@statewithinastateuk He was not referring to leftism or what the left consider liberalism.

[321lawc]

I didn't know Imperialism was a bad thing. More oil for free nations, less for Islamic dictatorships; sounds pretty good to me.

[sogghartha]

@321lawc What we should be doing is develop more sustainable energy sources. Nuclear fission, solar power etcetera. Depending on oil for energy means depending on nations that support terrorism, depending on our enemies. This is suicide. And we shouldn't support dictatorships of any kind, even if it's convenient.

[dragknuckle]

I have faced the harrassment he describes.

[yupper99]

dumb

[anirband]

This guy is just a Douche bag!!!!