@guitardude1000000000 Yeah man there spendy...you can build one for about 60 bucks. just need a bit of time, and some ebay knowhow! a bunch of jacks, led's, switches, and a casing. need some wire too but thats about it. Whats nice is that these really do make everything CLEANER! so much clearer sound. i would shy away from using one with amp distortion though. running your delay/reverb effects through one of these into delay can be really really icky... Almost worth getting two smaller ones.
@twst1 If you run your guitar into a Reverb/Delay pedal, your amp will distort the Reverb and delay. meaning your repeats on your delay will be distorted. This doesn't sound completely bad, but in my experience, it can get pretty gritty and muddy. Just personal preference. Your reverb tends to have quite a bit of Grit on it too. doesnt sound natural. very strange...out of place kinda stuff. That's why most amps have the Effect loop built in. Bypass the amps distortion. Clean trailing effects.
@kodiakchazz They are Evidence Audio Melody patch cables. I ordered an 18 ft. from Lava Cable and then a friend and I cut it up into patch cables. Much cheaper than to order the cables individually.
@Jacklovesrock: The enclosure is custom-built using 3/4-inch Birch wood. I figured out the dimensions and designed it on my computer in Microsoft Publisher and took the design to a friend who builds custom furniture professionally and he built it in his shop. The new one I just added sits on top of the one in the video and is nearly identical, slightly taller and shallower.
I just recently added an upper tier to this board & additional 6-channel looper. So the board is now twice the size as what's shown in this video. The upper tier houses a Boss Compressor/Sustainer, a Blues Driver, two Butler Tube Drivers and the Brownie. Distortion, run to the amp input. The effects in the lower board (shown in this video) run through the effects loop. The slot in the lower board where the Brownie was is now occupied by a Digitech Chorus Factory, set to simulate a Leslie.
I LOVE road rage pro gear!!! Amazing product, not too pricey. The owner of the company, Jeff, can customize any looper or any other product for absolutely no charge! Amazing company!!
You theoretically could run the in and out of your wah into one of the channels, leave the wah clicked 'on' all the time and just step on the looper swirch to access it. You wouldn't save any foot movement cause you have to click it on and off anyway, but if your wah sucks tone even when it's off this would eliminate that. Otherwise I probably wouldn't bother; I'd just run it in line before the TBL. Of course run into the TBL you'd also be able to preset the wah however you wanted.
@threetonesb You can have the wah switched on all the time and just use the looper's bypass switch to turn it on and off. That way the wah can always be on and you can control it with the bypass looper rather than having to click the wah on in the toe position.
@threetonesb personally, on my board. I run my wah into a channel so that if I want a mid-wah sound, I can turn it on and edit the wah without having anyone hear it. I even run my volume pedal through one of the channels.
channel loopers are used to "mimic" an effects loop on an amp. with the effects loop on an amp, everything is off then turned on to throw that sound into the guitar-amp sound. with channel loopers, the signal from the guitar goes straight to the amp and then effects are added to the signal one by one
Well, the way he uses it, it's less useful, but with a looper like the Carl Martin Octa-Switch, you can group pedals with DIP switches so you can create patches and activate/deactivate a group of pedals at once.
Absolutely, you could just use true-bypass pedals. Or you could do as DemoColorScheme suggests and loop various groups of effects into separate channels. Had I a larger amount of effects, I would probably have done that myself. But I have an intentionally limited palate and I chose this configuration because it was important to me to design a system where the pedals are protected, and where everything is laid out effeciently. It also allows for the use of vintage, non-TB pedals if desired.
even if you did use true bypass. The signal is still going through all the cabling and jacks. Depending on how many pedals you go through you still will have signal degradation. Even with a ten foot cable you have signal loss. So with this you only go through things that you use. Verses all the pedals that are true bypass
The switches are way too close to each other. I say go with another brand.
pabdiary 1 month ago
@pabdiary to their defense, they do have "compact" and "big foot" versions with different spacings
MHU999 2 weeks ago
great review and excellent tone.
rhykko77 1 month ago
Whats the price on the unit.. Without pedals?..
HeyStupidFlanders 2 months ago
i have no pedals and dont play , but i want one lol ! nice demo
JSprayaEntertainment 2 months ago
so what do you do with you volume pedal and tuner?!? someone please help.
aldaman8 3 months ago
@guitardude1000000000 Yeah man there spendy...you can build one for about 60 bucks. just need a bit of time, and some ebay knowhow! a bunch of jacks, led's, switches, and a casing. need some wire too but thats about it. Whats nice is that these really do make everything CLEANER! so much clearer sound. i would shy away from using one with amp distortion though. running your delay/reverb effects through one of these into delay can be really really icky... Almost worth getting two smaller ones.
rockstar363 6 months ago
@rockstar363 could you explain your statement re: not using one of these w/ amp distortion?
twst1 4 months ago
@twst1 If you run your guitar into a Reverb/Delay pedal, your amp will distort the Reverb and delay. meaning your repeats on your delay will be distorted. This doesn't sound completely bad, but in my experience, it can get pretty gritty and muddy. Just personal preference. Your reverb tends to have quite a bit of Grit on it too. doesnt sound natural. very strange...out of place kinda stuff. That's why most amps have the Effect loop built in. Bypass the amps distortion. Clean trailing effects.
rockstar363 3 months ago
Great video!
ummtone 9 months ago
I want one so bad. They're amazing products for amazing prices!
JoshFazzz 11 months ago
just great!
chrisF130 1 year ago
What patch cables are you using?
kodiakchazz 1 year ago
@kodiakchazz They are Evidence Audio Melody patch cables. I ordered an 18 ft. from Lava Cable and then a friend and I cut it up into patch cables. Much cheaper than to order the cables individually.
bookerdann 1 year ago
Pat Torpey's dad!
Sushiwii 1 year ago
Beautiful board. I just ordered a 5 channel & wanted some user feedback. Thanks- can't wait!
managainstcatfish 1 year ago
@premierguitar what pedal board are you using
Jacklovesrock 1 year ago
@Jacklovesrock: The enclosure is custom-built using 3/4-inch Birch wood. I figured out the dimensions and designed it on my computer in Microsoft Publisher and took the design to a friend who builds custom furniture professionally and he built it in his shop. The new one I just added sits on top of the one in the video and is nearly identical, slightly taller and shallower.
bookerdann 1 year ago
I just recently added an upper tier to this board & additional 6-channel looper. So the board is now twice the size as what's shown in this video. The upper tier houses a Boss Compressor/Sustainer, a Blues Driver, two Butler Tube Drivers and the Brownie. Distortion, run to the amp input. The effects in the lower board (shown in this video) run through the effects loop. The slot in the lower board where the Brownie was is now occupied by a Digitech Chorus Factory, set to simulate a Leslie.
bookerdann 1 year ago
I LOVE road rage pro gear!!! Amazing product, not too pricey. The owner of the company, Jeff, can customize any looper or any other product for absolutely no charge! Amazing company!!
sonofgod316 1 year ago
How do I use a Wah pedal on it?
threetonesb 2 years ago
You theoretically could run the in and out of your wah into one of the channels, leave the wah clicked 'on' all the time and just step on the looper swirch to access it. You wouldn't save any foot movement cause you have to click it on and off anyway, but if your wah sucks tone even when it's off this would eliminate that. Otherwise I probably wouldn't bother; I'd just run it in line before the TBL. Of course run into the TBL you'd also be able to preset the wah however you wanted.
bookerdann 2 years ago
Thanks a lot !!!
threetonesb 2 years ago
@threetonesb You can have the wah switched on all the time and just use the looper's bypass switch to turn it on and off. That way the wah can always be on and you can control it with the bypass looper rather than having to click the wah on in the toe position.
bfv102290 1 year ago
@threetonesb personally, on my board. I run my wah into a channel so that if I want a mid-wah sound, I can turn it on and edit the wah without having anyone hear it. I even run my volume pedal through one of the channels.
sonofgod316 1 year ago
channel loopers are used to "mimic" an effects loop on an amp. with the effects loop on an amp, everything is off then turned on to throw that sound into the guitar-amp sound. with channel loopers, the signal from the guitar goes straight to the amp and then effects are added to the signal one by one
sonofgod316 2 years ago
i know what true bypass is.
but can someone explain what Channel Loopers are for?
QuietEthic 2 years ago
did you listen to anything this man explained in the video at all? if you did you'd have your answer in great detail..
dbenc 2 years ago
I think this is really cool for us ( true tone freaks) when we want to still use our cool non TB pedals peals like Boss... Road Rage rules!!!
julianjem 2 years ago
couldn't you just stick to pedals with true bypass?
djbro16 2 years ago
Well, the way he uses it, it's less useful, but with a looper like the Carl Martin Octa-Switch, you can group pedals with DIP switches so you can create patches and activate/deactivate a group of pedals at once.
DemoColorScheme 2 years ago
Absolutely, you could just use true-bypass pedals. Or you could do as DemoColorScheme suggests and loop various groups of effects into separate channels. Had I a larger amount of effects, I would probably have done that myself. But I have an intentionally limited palate and I chose this configuration because it was important to me to design a system where the pedals are protected, and where everything is laid out effeciently. It also allows for the use of vintage, non-TB pedals if desired.
bookerdann 2 years ago
even if you did use true bypass. The signal is still going through all the cabling and jacks. Depending on how many pedals you go through you still will have signal degradation. Even with a ten foot cable you have signal loss. So with this you only go through things that you use. Verses all the pedals that are true bypass
soaringuitarist 2 years ago