i have the pro and a 250 watt mixer, i use the 250 watt more because i dont make big batches of anything and a small amount in a small bowl mixes better than in a big bowl. i also use the small mixer for making sausage and spagetti with their attachments. about watts volts times current equalls watts. if you have a bigger moter you need more watt power or better gearing, to drive the motor. buy the size you need, its just like buying a car.
I just ordered an Artisan from Sears, it hasn't been delivered yet. I have a thirty-five year old KA-5 bowl lift model that belonged to my grandmother. It worked faithfully until one day a plastic retaining screw broke and now one of the commutator brushes won't stay seated. It also could use a new cord.
I debated the classic vs artisan and decided the pour shield and bowl handle were important enough to pay extra. I'm also getting a bonus scraper paddle thrown in too!
watts = how much current the mixer uses, not how strong it is. and your "pro" has a "bowl lift" as a different style and has nothing to do with the weight of the motor and housing. additionally, the "pro" has a smaller DC motor and it is not as powerful as the "classic".
@CupcakesandCardio additionally, I learned about watts not equaling power is when i repaired vacuum cleaners. those manufactures try to make the consumer think more watts are more powerful. not so!
@baire702 I agree that Watts is a misleading term in consumer products … but until someone actually gets the technical specs from KitchenAid (or does their own tests) it’s impossible to know how much power is coming out at the paddle. I can only tell you what the box says and that the Pro powers through mixing ingredients better than the classic. If you have the specs, please post them.
Just a question: did you ever compare these American made machines to some of the offerings Kenwood has, like the Kenwood Chef or the Kenwood Prospero? These seem to be good machines also... and come with a lot of accessories as a standard. Especially the Prospero KM266 seems an offer that is hard to withstand...
@nealkassanoff it's not more difficult to do smaller batches on the pro....i just find using the classic or the artisan more convenient. as far as speeds of the pro goes, it is the same as the others....1-10 levels. hope that helps!
@chansomey prices vary GREATLY but you can usually find a decent deal when they go on sale. i got my Classic on sale for $199 (CDN), the Artisan was on sale for $230 (CDN) and the Pro was on sale for $300 (CDN).
@Smity2022 i've never heard of a blade holder, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. are you chipping them when they are in storage, or when they are mixing?
The reason the pro doesn't use a tiling head is that it's a much more powerful, and bigger motor and that would put to much strain on the tilt hinge when doing heavier mixing and could break the hinge pins from the extra tourque. But I agree, I like the tilting head better. I have a pro 600.
Great video! Thanks! I still wondering if I should pick the Artisan of The Pro 5 (they're the same price at the moment). I own a very tiny cookie business and usually make single batches of dough and icing, but also double batches. I probably won't be using it for other recipes. Any suggestion?
@urbanmarilyn The only difference between the Pro 500 and Plus that I'm aware of is that the Pro 5 plus uses 450 Watts, while the Pro 500 uses 325 Watts … Both have the same size bowl size.
I’ve not been able to find the actual difference in power at the paddle anywhere as Kitchenaid doesn’t seem to have released this info. Since you work on these machines, I assume you are privy to the info … feel free to post it, so we can do a fair comparison.
@TrombaMilitare16 Yes, I made a mistake … I meant Watts not Amps when comparing the Ultra to the Classic.
I’ll admit I don’t know much about how Watts or Amps translate to actual power at the paddle. I can only assume that since Kitchenaid advertises this as a difference, that there is an actual difference in power at the paddle.
@stephalani The only difference between the Ultra and the Classic is the Ultra has a slightly more powerful motor (250 Amps Vs. 300 Amps). The Ultra does not have a handle.
great review very helpful I don't mind not having a handle on the bowl i am leaning more towards the classic bc of the price, I am wanting one for christmas, But I do want the shield, can I just buy the shield seperate to go with the classic?
@CupcakesandCardio I have had the classic and passed it on to my sister in law when I purchased the Pro 610 (Williams Sonoma exclusive) which is just like the 600 but has slightly more power and comes w/ the pour shield and the 11 wire whip. Yes, doing smaller batches it has a tendancy to need to have the bottom scraped but I found that by using the 3 qt bowl (purchased separately) has taken care of that for me. I love all the machines I have owned (I used to cater and.........
@mezalkb .......{cont} also had a commercial sized machine) and couldn't do without them. The Pro does a great job on the bread doughes, even the sourdough and 100% whole grain bread I usually make for my family. I do a lot of desserts also and wouldn't trade my machine for the world. Thankw for the comparison, it willhelp many. BTW if you like ice cream try their ice cream bowl attachment....so much fun and tastes great!
@mezalkb THank you for your information! That will be very helpful for the other viewers (and me as well). I've be contemplating the ice cream attachment for a while, and I just might have to get it now!
America's Test Kitchen rated their ice cream attachment as the best over other ice cream machines. The review said it not only mixes better but the texture days later of the ice cream is superior. I am sure Santa would bring you one. lol
@Kellc28 well, with my experience with the pro and small batches is that yes, it does struggle...as in the bowl is too big for the quantity. I haven't made a lot of dough, just small batches for pizza but I use all of my mixers for icing ALL the time. What I have found is that as long as there is sufficient liquid, and the power is set at low speed, they all work fine. The exception is when there is NOT enough liquid, and the speed is set too high, my pro has "paused" working.
@Kellc28 i have not had over mixing problems, under mixing actually with the pro, as you really need to scrape the bottom to get the batter all mixed in.
well, with my experience with the pro and small batches is that yes, it does struggle...as in the bowl is too big for the quantity. I haven't made a lot of dough, just small batches for pizza but I use all of my mixers for icing ALL the time. What I have found is that as long as there is sufficient liquid, and the power is set at low speed, they all work fine. The exception is when there is NOT enough liquid, and the speed is set too high, my pro has "paused" working.
I made my decision to by the Artisan model, thanks to your review. It was very informative and helped me to choose between the classic and the artisan. Thanks so much for posting this video.
the artisan definitely has enough power to make bread dough, it would just depend on how MUCH dough you intend to make...if it is a large batch, i would use the pro, but smaller batches would be totally fine for the artisan. good luck!
go artisan!
TwistingLove 6 hours ago
i have the pro and a 250 watt mixer, i use the 250 watt more because i dont make big batches of anything and a small amount in a small bowl mixes better than in a big bowl. i also use the small mixer for making sausage and spagetti with their attachments. about watts volts times current equalls watts. if you have a bigger moter you need more watt power or better gearing, to drive the motor. buy the size you need, its just like buying a car.
eogg25 1 day ago
@eogg25 Thanks for info eogg25
CupcakesandCardio 15 hours ago
Oh one more thing, Consumer Reports rates the classic 1 point over the artisan and a couple over the bowl lift model. Go figure!
bagelboi66 4 days ago
I just ordered an Artisan from Sears, it hasn't been delivered yet. I have a thirty-five year old KA-5 bowl lift model that belonged to my grandmother. It worked faithfully until one day a plastic retaining screw broke and now one of the commutator brushes won't stay seated. It also could use a new cord.
I debated the classic vs artisan and decided the pour shield and bowl handle were important enough to pay extra. I'm also getting a bonus scraper paddle thrown in too!
Good review BTW.
bagelboi66 4 days ago
watts = how much current the mixer uses, not how strong it is. and your "pro" has a "bowl lift" as a different style and has nothing to do with the weight of the motor and housing. additionally, the "pro" has a smaller DC motor and it is not as powerful as the "classic".
baire702 1 week ago
@baire702 and your proof on this is where ...
CupcakesandCardio 1 week ago
@CupcakesandCardio hi, my proof is in all the Kitchen Aid Mixers that I have repaired at Kiefer Appliance, for almost 6 months.
baire702 1 week ago
@baire702 make that 6 years, not months.
baire702 1 week ago
@CupcakesandCardio additionally, I learned about watts not equaling power is when i repaired vacuum cleaners. those manufactures try to make the consumer think more watts are more powerful. not so!
baire702 1 week ago
@baire702 I agree that Watts is a misleading term in consumer products … but until someone actually gets the technical specs from KitchenAid (or does their own tests) it’s impossible to know how much power is coming out at the paddle. I can only tell you what the box says and that the Pro powers through mixing ingredients better than the classic. If you have the specs, please post them.
CupcakesandCardio 1 week ago
Do you ever have problems with dough on the bowl side?
Have you ever worked with Electrolux Assistent, if you have, how will you compare the Kitchenaid Artisan with it?
troelsskipper 2 weeks ago
Just a question: did you ever compare these American made machines to some of the offerings Kenwood has, like the Kenwood Chef or the Kenwood Prospero? These seem to be good machines also... and come with a lot of accessories as a standard. Especially the Prospero KM266 seems an offer that is hard to withstand...
325iaddict 1 month ago
@325iaddict Hi there...I haven't used a Kenwood before. Hopefully it works out for you :)
CupcakesandCardio 1 month ago
So, the pro is harder to clean. Other than this inconvenience, is it more difficult to do smaller batches on the pro?
What about adjustability of speed? Can you modify the speed on the artisan like you can on the pro?
Thanks
nealkassanoff 1 month ago
@nealkassanoff it's not more difficult to do smaller batches on the pro....i just find using the classic or the artisan more convenient. as far as speeds of the pro goes, it is the same as the others....1-10 levels. hope that helps!
CupcakesandCardio 1 month ago
Which model is best for making doughs for turning into noodles?
barker2j 1 month ago
@barker2j i would have to say the pro, or a larger model, as making pasta dough requires a lot of heavy work on the machine's parts.
CupcakesandCardio 1 month ago
can u please tell me How much are they?????????? thanks
chansomey 1 month ago
@chansomey prices vary GREATLY but you can usually find a decent deal when they go on sale. i got my Classic on sale for $199 (CDN), the Artisan was on sale for $230 (CDN) and the Pro was on sale for $300 (CDN).
CupcakesandCardio 1 month ago
@TrombaMilitare16 perhaps they are??
CupcakesandCardio 1 month ago
@TrombaMilitare16 thanks for the help! i'll have to look that up.
CupcakesandCardio 1 month ago
Gee what is that 11 or so Beater blades how do stop from chipping them?
Is there not some kind of Blade holder for them ????
Smity2022 1 month ago
@Smity2022 i've never heard of a blade holder, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. are you chipping them when they are in storage, or when they are mixing?
CupcakesandCardio 1 month ago
The reason the pro doesn't use a tiling head is that it's a much more powerful, and bigger motor and that would put to much strain on the tilt hinge when doing heavier mixing and could break the hinge pins from the extra tourque. But I agree, I like the tilting head better. I have a pro 600.
seattwa 2 months ago
What do you think is better? The ultra power or the artisan? But imagine the ultra power n artisan both have pour spouts and handles? Thank you ;)
MrJessie1040 2 months ago
@MrJessie1040 Well, the Artisan has a bigger bowl and has a handle on the bowl … so, I would go with the Artisan.
CupcakesandCardio 2 months ago
Great video! Thanks! I still wondering if I should pick the Artisan of The Pro 5 (they're the same price at the moment). I own a very tiny cookie business and usually make single batches of dough and icing, but also double batches. I probably won't be using it for other recipes. Any suggestion?
yamhera 2 months ago
@yamhera If they're the same price, get the pro ... you'll be able to-do slightly larger batches and have a bit more power with the pro!
CupcakesandCardio 2 months ago
just curious if the Pro 500's is the same as the 5+?
urbanmarilyn 2 months ago
@urbanmarilyn The only difference between the Pro 500 and Plus that I'm aware of is that the Pro 5 plus uses 450 Watts, while the Pro 500 uses 325 Watts … Both have the same size bowl size.
CupcakesandCardio 2 months ago
@TrombaMilitare16
I’ve not been able to find the actual difference in power at the paddle anywhere as Kitchenaid doesn’t seem to have released this info. Since you work on these machines, I assume you are privy to the info … feel free to post it, so we can do a fair comparison.
CupcakesandCardio 2 months ago
@TrombaMilitare16 Yes, I made a mistake … I meant Watts not Amps when comparing the Ultra to the Classic.
I’ll admit I don’t know much about how Watts or Amps translate to actual power at the paddle. I can only assume that since Kitchenaid advertises this as a difference, that there is an actual difference in power at the paddle.
CupcakesandCardio 2 months ago
What is the difference between the Ultra Power model and the Classic model ? Does the Ultra power comes with and handle ? thks
stephalani 2 months ago
@stephalani The only difference between the Ultra and the Classic is the Ultra has a slightly more powerful motor (250 Amps Vs. 300 Amps). The Ultra does not have a handle.
CupcakesandCardio 2 months ago
great review very helpful I don't mind not having a handle on the bowl i am leaning more towards the classic bc of the price, I am wanting one for christmas, But I do want the shield, can I just buy the shield seperate to go with the classic?
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@CupcakesandCardio I have had the classic and passed it on to my sister in law when I purchased the Pro 610 (Williams Sonoma exclusive) which is just like the 600 but has slightly more power and comes w/ the pour shield and the 11 wire whip. Yes, doing smaller batches it has a tendancy to need to have the bottom scraped but I found that by using the 3 qt bowl (purchased separately) has taken care of that for me. I love all the machines I have owned (I used to cater and.........
mezalkb 3 months ago
@mezalkb .......{cont} also had a commercial sized machine) and couldn't do without them. The Pro does a great job on the bread doughes, even the sourdough and 100% whole grain bread I usually make for my family. I do a lot of desserts also and wouldn't trade my machine for the world. Thankw for the comparison, it willhelp many. BTW if you like ice cream try their ice cream bowl attachment....so much fun and tastes great!
mezalkb 3 months ago
@mezalkb THank you for your information! That will be very helpful for the other viewers (and me as well). I've be contemplating the ice cream attachment for a while, and I just might have to get it now!
CupcakesandCardio 3 months ago
@CupcakesandCardio
America's Test Kitchen rated their ice cream attachment as the best over other ice cream machines. The review said it not only mixes better but the texture days later of the ice cream is superior. I am sure Santa would bring you one. lol
KissHope 2 months ago
@KissHope I would be VERY happy if Santa brought one!
CupcakesandCardio 2 months ago
@Kellc28 well, with my experience with the pro and small batches is that yes, it does struggle...as in the bowl is too big for the quantity. I haven't made a lot of dough, just small batches for pizza but I use all of my mixers for icing ALL the time. What I have found is that as long as there is sufficient liquid, and the power is set at low speed, they all work fine. The exception is when there is NOT enough liquid, and the speed is set too high, my pro has "paused" working.
CupcakesandCardio 3 months ago
@Kellc28 i have not had over mixing problems, under mixing actually with the pro, as you really need to scrape the bottom to get the batter all mixed in.
CupcakesandCardio 3 months ago
well, with my experience with the pro and small batches is that yes, it does struggle...as in the bowl is too big for the quantity. I haven't made a lot of dough, just small batches for pizza but I use all of my mixers for icing ALL the time. What I have found is that as long as there is sufficient liquid, and the power is set at low speed, they all work fine. The exception is when there is NOT enough liquid, and the speed is set too high, my pro has "paused" working.
CupcakesandCardio 3 months ago
oops buy.
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CupcakesandCardio 3 months ago
I made my decision to by the Artisan model, thanks to your review. It was very informative and helped me to choose between the classic and the artisan. Thanks so much for posting this video.
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the artisan definitely has enough power to make bread dough, it would just depend on how MUCH dough you intend to make...if it is a large batch, i would use the pro, but smaller batches would be totally fine for the artisan. good luck!
CupcakesandCardio 3 months ago
Would you recommend the pro over the artisan for bread dough or do you think the artisan has enough power for making bread?
tbedsaul1 3 months ago
Nice, lots of great info. Thanks
ladybugstamper 4 months ago