Then we have the pansy ass Hollywood crowd. All they want is more of your money to feed their egos and snort stuff up their noses and then want you poor saps to feel sorry for them. Plus most of them are all useless liberal shitheads. Fuck them all and while I'm at it,fuck Obama and his ilk too.
John Kerry,now there is a piece of work. Ted Kennedy too. Silver spoons and all. I'll take my chances with the likes of Romney and Trump. At least they know how to make money. The Obama lovers have bled this country dry. Obama had his shot and he blew it to the tune of $5 trillion that the taxpayers and their great great grand children will be saddled with for years. Thanks Obama,now it's time to step aside and let someone else give it a try.
@bigtom714 Where to you get you BS numbers? The FACTS:
From 2001 to 2009, Bush's policies, including two wars, higher Pentagon spending in addition to those wars, tax cuts, higher discretionary spending and the prescription drug program contributed $5.1 TRILLION to the nation's debt.
From 2009 to 2017 (using projections for 2011-2017), Obama's policies have added or will add $983 billion.
Such a lost libby you are goat. You are not worth my time. An Obamabot till the bitter end and a fool to boot. Keep it up,I'm sure someone is getting a good laugh.
Plus Romney knows how to make money. It's easy to spend money,especially if it's not yours. Obama's legacy is spending $5 trillion of money that doesn't belong to him. Some legacy. Maybe it's time for a money manager to lead us into some real prosperity. This constant deficit and debt crap has got to stop. Just say NO to Obama.But the boot licker you are will trump any common sense to do whats right. So blather on libby,it's all you do.
Washington DC is the rich mans party goat. Just look at all the millionaires in Congress from both partys. Your argument doesn't pass the test goat. If you want me to name names I could and so can you if you would get of your libby train long enough to look at the facts. It takes millions to become a Senator and millions to be speaker of the house. Just ask Pelosi nad Boehner. Wake up fool.I'm in no way saying that Romney is the guy. But I know that Obama is NOT the guy.
WHO'S TALKING ABOUT RICH DEMOCRATIC OR RICH REPUBLICAN politicians.
I'm talking about whose interests they side with. It is common knowledge that the rich Republican politicians cater to the interests of millionaires, and rich Democratic politicians cater to the interests of the middle class.
The libby's silence speaks volumes. They just don't want America to succeed. They want the DC overlords to run their lives and tell them what to do and when to do it. Keep lickin' those those boots libbys,it's what you do best.
tehe, tsk, tsk, tsk. some cat said "goat" should be SHEEP! tehetehetehe! c'mon goater;................ "follow me, i'm the pied piiiiper, can't you see"! tehetehetehe!
that's the best one i've heard in a long time. wonder what he'd wanna call the weenie boy?
IF I WERE A MILLIONAIRE I would immediately join the Republican Party. They promise to cut my taxes so that capital gains (which I would have a lot of) are below even Romney's 14% rate.
BUT I'M NOT A MILLIONAIRE. My income is very average (US income averages $35K - $50K yr). So I don't want the rich guys to make more $ at my expense.
You are right about one thing brenty boy. Paul will run as a third party candidate and take much needed votes from Romney. Which will leave us stuck in the mud with the great spender Obama and his ilk for another four years. How's that for being a realist. We the people deserve better than this,but we'll be bled dry by the spendaholics in Washington and libbys like you can rejoice in the destruction of the USA.
Lets see,what would Obama do. Well we know he'll run the deficit up 5 or 6 trillion more. It's what he does best. He's and his ilk are hell bent on bringing the American people to there knees. We don't need people like Obama. He's been the most expensive piece of shit president in American history. Just say NO to Obama in 2012. It's the right thing to do.
What would Barak Obama do as President. Run up the deficit year after year until this country is on it's knees. But you anti American libbys still think he's the guy. I'm here to tell you that he's NOT the guy. He's a disgrace to every real American that cares about our formerly great country. You let the fox guard the hen house,this is what you get. The real problem is you anti American fools will re-elect this traitor.Fools to the bitter end you libbys are. Shame on you fools.
BY THE USE OF DRONES AND SPECIAL FORCES LIKE SEAL TEAM 6.
Here is a President who is willing to take a risk, if the payback is worth the risk. The Special Forces mission that rescued two people in Somalia yesterday could easily have gone bad.
Obama is the best Commander-in-Chief we've had since H.W. Bush. God bless Barack Obama, and God bless the USA.
Q. WHAT WOULD RICK SANTORUM DO IF HE WERE PRESIDENT ?
A. Make birth control illegal. Santorum is a strict Catholic and the Church condemns prophylactics and all other methods of birth control, except the risky "rhythm."
You won't be able to buy those Trojans in the drug store anymore. Think about it, guys.
Apparently this thread is dead. You people don't know whats going on or you simply don't care. I,on the other hand care deeply about this country and the direction it's heading and I am not thrilled at all. But if you clowns think Obama and his ilk and Congress,especially the Senate are working for you,fine. Live in a dream world. I,for one do not live in a dream world.It's been fun. See ya in Utopia fools.
The Utopia that you think America is has been gone for many years libby. But whatever gets you to sleep at night. So when the big shots at GE or the bigshots at the insurance companies or George Soros tell Obama when and what to do. Just look the other way.
Just remember libby. When they come for you in the middle of the night and hold you in a dark cell in some unknown location for years on end without a lawyer or even telling you what the charges is are,you can say hey I thought this was a Democray and I thought I had a phone call and I thought I could get a lawyer. You are living in a dream world libby. Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me Obama is going to make it all right. I need a good laugh. Go on tell me.
@bigtom714 Just so you don't misquote me AGAIN. Let me refresh your feeble memory. What I said was:
"Small" Government = Of the Corporations, By the Corporations and For the Corporations - and to HELL with American constitutional democracy for the rest.
"Big" Government = Of the People, By the People, and For the People - ALL 300+ Million American Citizens - a democratic government consistent with our constitution and Bill of Rights that works for ALL American citizens - that's "Big".
You libbys have said in the past that you want a bigger government. Thats not American in my book.This government has failed us from the top down for a very long time. Lip service and blame games and apology tours and check your brain at the door economics is not leadership. You libbys know that. But you are such anti American assholes you can't bring yourself to agree with a realist like me,and thats too bad. I'm sure at one time you had something to offer. Not anymore libbys.
@bigtom714 WTF? I have NEVER said that I want a bigger government! Ridiculous!
What I have said is that I want an effective democratic government the works for We The People with next to no influence from the power of big corporate money. Campaign finance reform and adding laws that diminish the horrible mistake that the Supreme Court handed us with Citizens United.
The GOP does NOT want democracy - they want Oligarchy for the 1% and fuck the 99%. Wake up!
@brentj30 Ron Paul 2012 asshole. I read you're statement and I was like "Oh shit, sweet another Ron Paul supporter. Than you threw me for a loop at the end.
@LeoBaoig I really do expect Ron Paul to run as the Third Party candidate. This could be good and bad as he will draw away a bunch of Tea Baggers (thats good) but, he will also draw away those one issue "I want my pot to be legal" fools (thats bad). But, I think effect will be net positive for Obama. We shall see ...
And, no, I do not work for the Obama admin. I am just a concerned citizen that is very interested in and fascinated by politics.
Obama and his ilk will do everything they can to increase government spending,keep us 99% in there place and gain as much power as possible. Obama has failed the American people time and time again. So lets fire the asshole and move on. We the people deserve better than this turkey Obama. Will Romney be any better,who knows,but I say give him a shot at it. Obama = Failure,we know that.So oust the bastard and move forward. What's wrong with that. Freepassing on Obama for 3 years is a joke libbys.
But you won't because you two idiots are such anti American fuckheads. Who would rather see this country fail. But smarter heads will prevail and Obama and his ilk will be "fired".And if Obama isn't fired it's because the idiot lazyass entitlement losers are happy with the way things are. Obama = the status quo and must be sent packing in November. Go Romney Go
One thing that is absolutely certain, Mitt "Corporations are People, My Friend" Romney couldn't give TWO SHITS for OUR American democracy! Today's GOP leaders wants nothing but corporate Oligarchy. This is the TRUTH of it. Without question, the superior alternative is President Obama.
The GOP won't be able to sort its shit out for decades.
If you "freethinkers" would get on the stick. You would see that Obama does not have a clue. But when one of you thinks he's a "god" and the other is such a commie.Well enough said. I'm sure your Mitt jokes and all the "clown posse" crap is all you have. I dare you guys to keep an eye on Obama and enough of the "freepassing". Try it once,you may learn something.
Oh, I actually do have one more thing. Can't decide what the BEST Romney line is:
Mitt "Phoney Baloney Flip-Flopping" Romney
Mitt "Corporations are People, my Friend" Romney
Mitt "I like firing people ... do we have enough pink slips?" Romney
Mitt "I grew up privileged, free-ride thru college, destroyed jobs to become fabulously RICH, but, I'm now unemployed and can 'feel your pain' O'dwindling middle class" Romney
Obama,remember him commies. He lends $500 million of our taxpaer money to Solyndra and they go belly up. Try getting that money back fellas. Then to make matters worse,he lends or actully gives money ($500 million each) to Fiskar Automotive and Tesla Motors to build cars,in finland and Germany. So this is our illustrious leader. Check your brain at the door economics is more like it. I say oust this turkey before we all regret it. But keep "freepassing" commies. It's what you do best.
Plus throse 50% probaly employ a good percent of the work force in this country,not to mention 401k accounts and IRAs and other pension and retirement accounts. When the corporations do good,it's good for all of us commie. So go spout your trash somewhere else.
A CEO, a tea party member, and a union worker are all sitting at a table when a plate with a dozen cookies arrives. Before anyone else can make a move, the CEO reaches out to rake in eleven of the cookies. When the other two look at him in surprise, the CEO locks eyes with the tea party member. "You better watch him," the executive says with a nod toward the union worker. "He wants a piece of your cookie."
Forbes reported that only 400 citizens of the USA own 50% of all the wealth of the USA.
That national debt has indeed risen over the last three years, BUT for reasons that have a GREAT DEAL to do with ... George W. Bush and Congress.
FACT: The perpetuation of the BUSH tax cuts, the continuation of the BUSH new prescription drug benefit, the management of the BUSH wars and the interest payments on debt that BUSH accumulated account for the lions share of the additional sum that has occurred under Obama. Debt growth will stop once tax breaks for billionaires expire.
I don't really want a war either libby,but I wouldn't be opposed to taking care of these assholes before they do something stupid like stopping the oil through the Strait of Hormuz. But I'm sure you really don't care what I have to say anyways libby. You are too busy "freepassing" Obama and his ilk,you don't have time for foreign policy. So sit back people and watch the wuss Obama in action. Oh,it's gonna be a fun year.
Conservatism is nothing more than fascism and monarchialism in new wrapping.
Libertarianism is nothing more than a pale gloss over anarchy with a healthy dose of childish me-ism.
Liberalism contains all the resources needed to effectively govern a free society for ALL of We The People.
History has proven the truth of this over and over again and the founders formed this democratic republic to prevent Corporate (today's GOP) fascism or Libertarian (Ron Paul) anarchy.
@brentj30; we'll see how anti-Ron Paul you "progressives" are when we get into some hyper-inflation issues.
i heard people talking today of $5/gal. gas by June. we'll see how supportive any of you are of a $3/4 trillion annual defense budget......or the $30 billion/year in pell grants and tax increases to keep supporting the nonsense!
Ron Paul on the debate stage last night.
"I was married and had 2 kids when I got drafted during Vietnam;...........and I went"!
@graysonTW Ron Paul's idiotic "lets return to the gold standard" mantra would do nothing BUT create massive hyper-inflation issues.
This is Ron Paul's last hurrah and he will fizzle out ... again ... and for the last time. At his age, he's done. His two good ideas don't make up for the exceedingly long list of idiocy within his ideology. Because of that, he will continue to fool only a small percentage of Americans ... like YOU!
Ron Paul may come off as humble sometimes but, his ego is a big as his ideological HARD-ON to push American democracy back to the 1800's - eliminate civil rights laws, eliminate child labor laws, eliminate social security and medicare, eliminate student financial aid, eliminate environmental regulation, the list goes on! Sorry but, that is simply ridiculous and makes Ron Paul UN-electable.
to avoid a war with iran simply takes a vote for Ron Paul. as a vietman veteran, he sees the harm and ill will it promotes. these other meddling mongers are all the SAME, be it REPUBLICAN or DEMOCRAT!
you are either going to vote for a man who is absolutely AGAINST military interventionism or you're going to vote for a REPUBLICRAT who supports ALL OF IT!
we are the #1 military power on earth and the world knows it!
I SO hope that Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul both end up running as 3rd party candidates ... they are such egotists I can see it happening just so they can be in the fall debates.
Their toxic influence will only further tarnish an already hopelessly damaged GOP image.
he's got to be about as HUMBLE a man as we've seen in D.C. in ages. maybe since Abe Lincoln. you've sure used a word to describe him that in no way applies. do you undertand the word "egotist"?
and his view of our military interventionism doesn't make him an isolationist at all. in fact his plan would increase our acceptability in the world.
You're right libby. War with Iran is coming and maybe with North korea and there is nothing you can do about it. You can bet Obama the puppet will bend to the will of the military industrial complex or risk getting a bullet in the head. So don't bother to say stupid things like your last posting. The world is a nasty place. So do you want to be on the winning side,then keep your mouth shut and go about your life and just let the powers that be do there stuff. There is nothing you can do anyways.
You have outdone yourself. You have put together the most meatheaded posting in a long, long while.
Some thoughts on it:
* The notion that we are eventually going to war with Iran -- so we might as well do it now -- is mind-boggling. Several billion people on planet Earth are thankful that President Kennedy did not believe this during the Cuban missile crisis. If he did, they would have died in a nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union.
@bigtom714 Hey now! There's the gloomy Gloomster we've come to know! Doom and Gloom!
Well, sorry to disappoint, Gloomster, but there are an overwhelming majority of proud citizens in the USA that do not want any war with Iran and their voice HAS BEEN HEARD! Obama WILL NOT start a war with Iran.
And Grayson, fuck Ron Paul and his isolationist nonsense! We share this planet with all nations and must engage them at some level to prevent war and learn to understand one another.
President Obama Has Made Far Fewer Recess Appointments Than Any Recent President. Despite the inevitable conservative complaints that President Obama is engaged in some kind of massive overreach by recess appointing Richard Cordray as the nation’s chief consumer financial protection watchdog, the truth is that Obama has used his recess appointment power very sparingly.
DES MOINES, Iowa -- The final Iowa results are in. The big winner: President Barack Obama.
The dismal, nasty campaigns here were not good for the Republican Party or the country. There was precious little debate on anything other than who literally was Holier than Thou; the dollars spent on attack ads were, vote for vote, enormous!
All of which is good news for President Obama who will have a weak GOP opponent next November. The GOP has no solid candidate.
@graysonTW Ha! HA! Just as I suspected you would do - TRIPPLE down on your ignorance and OWN it! IDIOT!
Oh, and, you can rest assured that I have done my homework on Ron Paul. Getting rid of the FED and making the printing of money having nothing to do with private banks is a VERY good idea as I have said on this thread before and is NOT a Paul original idea, either. Unfortunately, Ron Paul's other ideas would knock the "progress" of the USA right back into the 1800's! Ridiculous!
if Ron Paul is unelectable it's because "intellects"....*chuckle*....like you....*chuckle* don't know enough about economics or the Constitution to even begin to comprehend what he says!
that's simply another black eye for the voting public in the U.S.A.!
you want another REPUBLICRAT in the WHITEHOUSE then vote for someone else!
when the country declares BANKRUPTCY....remember who could have prevented it.
when your kids get DRAFTED to fight a U.N. sanctioned skirmish, think of RON PAUL!
Ron Paul is a racist Nazi, who was endorsed, PAID by Don Balke, David Duke Nazi Stormfront, Farrakhan, Islamic jihadist and other American haters.
icans are criminals or Semi criminals, that Jews are plotting against America and he promoted racial war as a tool for taking America. His racism was even caught on tape:dailymail(.)co.uk/news/article-2078217/Newly-uncovered-videos-letter-Ron-Paul-promoting-racist-newsletters--long-said-knew-them(.)html
The USA is a Nation with many Christians. The USA is a Christian-tolerant nation, along with many other religions, too. But, our laws are not based on the Bible nor do we govern from the Bible. These functions are defined by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, underscored by the 1st Amendment, making NO LAW respecting an establishment of religion.
Is it possible for an evangelical christian nutjob such as yourself to admit the truth of this?
@graysonTW So, what is your point - that poor black children are getting more than their fair-and-balanced share of food bought with food stamps? Oh, for shame!
Seriously now, why don't you address something other than trumped up outrage.
You can thank Ronald Reagan for the poor quality of Journalism today as it was his administration that did away with the Fairness Doctrine.
The Fairness Doctrine was a policy of the United States FCC, introduced in 1949, that required the holders of broadcast licenses to both present controversial issues of public importance and to do so in a manner that was, in the Commission's view, honest, equitable and balanced.
Why? To make way for "profit motive" entertainment news.
@graysonTW I guess you had to change the subject with something - anything - instead of admit that I schooled you on your misguided and historically inaccurate "USA was founded on Christianity" nonsense.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
Still not talking about our useless president are you libby. You should be more concerned with the asswipe in Hawaii than with anyone in Iowa. But,the libby in you will not allow you to be an unbiased freethinking American. Thats too bad. I'll continue to do your job for you,because while you are freepassing,I'm keeping an eye on the useless bastard Obama and his ilk. So carry on libby. Have fun and don't worry about a thing.
So,Michelle Obama says on 60 minutes that Americans are going to have to sacrifice to bring about change. Does that include paying $4 million for you and Barak to take separate planes so you can hang out in Hawaii for two weeks. I don't think so Michelle. You and your spending husband have got to go. Then you can go on a permanent vacation and "we the people" can move on without you. Get real Obamas.
It was 209 years ago today, on January 1, 1802, that President Thomas Jefferson wrote his famous letter to the Baptists of Banbury, CT, about the "wall of separation between Church & State."
May the original intent of 1st Amendment forever be upheld as a cornerstone of democracy.
We should all be celebrating Thomas Jefferson's letter today - and every day. It's greatly to the benefit of all of us Americans and a great example to the rest of the world, too.
@brentj30 ; we've set an exemplary standard for the rest of the world. we feed people, we defend people and territories, we share technology, we educate foreigners, etc.
our Christian foundations likely led us to do these things! Wise Up!
@graysonTW IF YOU KNEW factual history of the founders, you would know that some founders were most adamantly NOT Christians and, because of their influence, they led us to add the 1st Amendment to the Bill of Rights - much against the wishes of other founders who were of the "overly charismatic Christian theology-pushing" variety.
Don't think you can re-write well documented history, Grayson! You have already lost that battle to the actual facts.
"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma." - Abraham Lincoln
"I have recently been examining all the known superstitions of the world, and do not find in our particular superstition (Christianity) one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology."
- Thomas Jefferson
"The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity." - John Adams
@bigtom714 The point is, Righty, the Dems NEVER had filibuster-proof majority control of Congress - not even for one minute. On top of that, the RepubliCON's have invoked the filibuster an unprecedented 120 times in the last three years to stop ANY and ALL legislation that would help the economy or improve OUR democracy. Why? Because they HATE democracy!
"Stop spreading disinformation" should be your New Years resolution, Gloomster.
@bigtom714 And, as for the pipeline ... HELL NO !! Let Canada keep their toxic tar sands as they are clearly NOT the answer to our future energy problems.
I suspect you really don't know anything about the tar sands or the pipeline, do you? Please, bone up on the facts before you pop off like an idiot. Try not to ONLY read what the OIL industry has to day about it - you are not going to find the truth there.
The point is libby,that the Dems had control of Congress for the first two years of Obama and what did they do. Spend like there is no tomorrow. Plus libby,Obama is three years in and it's well past time to stop the blame game. I know it,you know it and everybody else knows it. So your little libby hissy fit rings hollow as usual. If we had a leader in the White House,you wouldn't have to play your blame game. Happy New Year libby. Let's hope it's better than 2011.
@graysonTW "unemployment and the economy are bad" YES, because the Republican minority in Congress want it the STAY bad!
"situation in afghanistan and pakistan is horrid" YES, and we can than George W. Bush and company for dropping that ball.
"the nat'l. debt is totally out of control!" YES, and we can be certain RepubliCON's will continue to ensure the economy stays down and that the deficit continues to grow in the hopes that We The People will abandon democracy for Oligarchy.
@graysonTW I am not sure I would say Obama is or was good for the country but as a business owner that deals with reality I have not heard one good conservative position I could back.
@john777316 Why? Because the conservative corporatist position in Washington is to unabashedly support the 1% - small business be damned!
Romney, Newt, and the rest of the clowns the GOP is parading around will do nothing but suck up to the 1% like good little corporatist puppets. The GOP has nothing to offer towards governing this country towards recovery. All they have is painfully damaging austerity measures and an end to democracy sold to their base with with fear and lies.
At issue: Bachmann claims Ron Paul stole her panties. Paul denies it. Says her panties just showed up on his campaign bus.
Bachmann is pissed, says she will do a take-down in the mud. Paul says he isn't much interested in wrestling a panty-less Bachmann, but you have to realize the man is 75 yrs old.
I told you clowns that Obama should have ordered the destruction of that drone in Iran. But nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. So when our technology gets in other hands you anti Americans are okay with that. Plus my dear libby friends,a war with Iran is going to happen sooner or later. Whether it's Israel bombing their nuke facilities or the USA bombing them before they decide to flex their muscles. Wake up people.
* The Iranian nuclear program reminds us of the Iraqi WMDs. We've done that, been there. We aren't going to war again for you damned conservative hawks. Any fool can start a war. It takes a good man to end a war (Obama and Iraq).
* The drone that crashed in Iran was probably a Predator B (also called a MQ-9 Reaper). You DO NOT KNOW that one in Iranian hands is a set-back for us. That is all your conjecture, and you want to go to war over a guess?
RE: "a war with Iran is going to happen sooner or later. Whether it's Israel bombing their nuke facilities or the USA bombing them before they decide to flex their muscles . . ."
YOU CLAIM that a war with Iran will happen anyway so we might as well do it now.
THAT IS THE MOST MINDLESS train of thought I've heard in 2011. Congratulations, meathead, you've won the award for MOST MINDLESS "THINKING."
So what does the left wingnut Obama have to offer. Lets see,sleazeball,check,an empty suit, check,on the fringe,left that is,check,who is this junior Senator anyways,oh yeah, the monster that George Soros created in his lab,check. Lets all hope to get rid of this monster in Nov. 2012,check. By the way,there is only 50 states check.Plus being another $5 trillion in debt is no picnic,check.
I CAN TELL YOU UNEQUIVOCALLY THAT WHAT IS ABOUT TO TRANSPIRE STARTING TOMORROW - NEXT WEEK IS GOING TO BE DIRECTLY BECAUSE OF A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE. IF I WERE TO RANK WHO'S MOST RESPONSIBLE SHE'D BE #4 OR SO AND IT'S BECAUSE THIS ARKANSAS BAR FAILURE GENITAL HERPES 0 ACCOMPLISHMENTS hillary DECIDED TO SIT ON HER FLABBY ASS AND DO NOTHING
I see libby goater will NOT talk about his "god" Obama .Why is that. I guess he has nothing good to say about him or talking about the mighty "god" Obama is taboo. It's hilarious thats for sure. Anyways have a Merry Christmas.
we've gone over this all before, goater! anti-Christian kooks like sam harris spew incessantly about anything pertaining to Heaven, Hell, Life, Death, morality, immorality, etc.
he's a neuroscientist....a philosopher....he doesn't have a CLUE as to how life really began! yet his ilk KNOWS there is no God!
must then mean HIS opinion means no more than any "man in the streets"!
the vast majority of theologians believe there is a God. what the phuck (your word) business is it of scientists?
* You didn't answer my question regarding life beyond Earth. See "Question for Grayhead."
* If Sam Harris expressed an opinion about global warming, that opinion has no more value than that of any man in the street. His expertise is NOT climatology.
* I listen to scientists to understand the universe. Scientists do not talk about God. Their expertise is the NATURAL WORLD. Not the SUPERNATURAL WORLD.
It should read, "Scientists do not talk about God AUTHORITATIVELY. Their expertise is the NATURAL WORLD. Not the SUPERNATURAL WORLD.
Sure, they may have opinions about the supernatural, but these opinions are no better than those of the man-in-the-street.
Science studies the natural world and is the only authority on the natural world. From atoms to life on earth one million yrs ago to Big Bang, they are the only authority. Not the church.
Ha! Ha! Wow, you really are an idiot! Ignorance is NOT a virtue!
Thank you, Grayson, for the comic relief, though, as it is much appreciated!
FYI, just so you actually learn something today: Sam Harris has a PhD in neuroscience AND a B.A. in philosophy. His research is particularly interested in the learning development of the brain of which includes religions and ethics in human social development.
RE: "Thomas Sowell's fields of expertise include economics, history, politics, and CHILDHOOD development."
ZERO SCIENCE in there, grayhead. Without a background in science, preferably meteorology / climatology, his opinion is as worthless as any man in the street.
@goat909295 ; with Sowell's expertise in child development he's every bit as qualified to make statements regarding the "learning development" of the brain as Sam (sad sack) Harris is.
you have an inordinate amount of respect for scientists for some reason, goater!
there are brilliant people in all aspects of life.
* Our topic is global warming. Thomas Sowell does not believe in it. I said Slowell's opinion is of absolutely no value since he is not an expert in any field related to climate.
* I have a great deal of respect for scientists. I value their beliefs as being true when they all agree.
* I do not have any respect at all for the scientific opinions of non-scientists.
* Science got us where we are in our understanding of the universe. Not religion.
Let us suppose the space craft that lands on Mars next August finds evidence that a primitive form of life evolved on that planet but died off.
The vast majority of the world's scientists agree and conclude that life can arise anywhere conditions are suitable. Planets orbiting distant stars may harbor life.
Religious leaders say God gives all creation to man ("dominion over all things"). They say the scientists must be wrong.
RE: The vast majority of the world's scientists agree and conclude that life can arise anywhere conditions are suitable. Planets orbiting distant stars may harbor life"
It is written..
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." -- Genesis 1:1
* What does "the heavens and the earth" mean? Big Bang created the universe. Could God have caused Big Bang and thereby indirectly created these heavens and earth?
* A priest told me once that if evolution was ever proved, the Catholic Church could readily accept it providing that at some point in the life of primitive man, God gave him an immortal soul.
* How would you answer the question I gave to Grayhead?
WHEN IT COMES TO SCIENCE, I BELIEVE SCIENTISTS. Not commentators on the sideline.
Thomas Sowall can lecture me about economics because that's his field of expertise. However, since economists DISAGREE with each other, Sowall's opinion is not conclusive.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE WORLD'S CLIMATOLOGISTS are the ones with the expertise on the topic of climate change. They agree. I should listen to THEM.
When you want a haircut, go to a barber, not some small-engine repair guy.
So,while you libs are blathering. Congress just passed the two month version of the payroll tax cut. So all your libby bitchin' was a waste of time. Just like all this yapping about global warming. But you know what this means now. The puppet Obama can join his crew in Hawaii for Christmas. Have a Merry Chrismas President Obama,we'll all still be here when you get back.
* QUOTING THOMAS SOWELL on global warming is like quoting a kindergardener on our foreign policy in the Mideast.
* WOULD I BET MY PAYCHECK ON TOMORROW'S WEATHER FORECAST ? Damn right. In the last 10 yrs forecasters have accumulated a vast computer library of weather situations and what happens from them. Forecasts are usually spot on.
I'd be a millionaire! But I'd want to pay my fair share of taxes. How about you, grayhead?
"would you bet your paycheck on a weather forecast for tomorrow"? "If not, then why should this country be betting billions on global warming predictions that have even less foundation"!
Thomas Sowell......not a biologist or climatologist, but for sure, a THINKER!
THOMAS SOWELL has a background in economics and political writing. He has knows ZERO science. ZERO.
When we say that 99% of the world's climatologists believe in global warming, why would you quote a political writer and member of the conservative Hoover think tank.
As a conservative / libertarian, it is in his interest that global warming doesn't exist. You should learn when someone can speak authoritatively, and when it is just hot air. (Hotter all the time).
@RightWingTV Actually, it was the Clergy and the layman who believed the world was flat based in part on religious beliefs centuries old (divinely inspired and dead wrong). It was the efforts of early scientists that proved that the earth was round and actually revolved around the sun. This disproved the religious belief that the universe did NOT revolve around the earth as the center.
Religion is an old, failed science and needs to re-write itself back into relevance again.
Oh, man! The GOPers are really fucking up in House of Congress!
Republican after Republican today are just ripping the Tea Baggin' House Congressmen for being complete dip-shits they are!
Ha Ha! Oh, the comedy ... thank you Tea Baggers for the wonderful public display of idiocy that is even making the most disconnected citizens pay attention and say WTF is WRONG with the GOP!
tax his work
tax his pay
he works for peanuts
anyway
tax his cow
tax his goat
tax his pants
tax his coat
graysonTW 22 minutes ago
tax his land
tax his bed
tax the table
at which he's fed
tax his tractor
tax his mule
teach him taxes
are the rule
graysonTW 26 minutes ago
"I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE VERY POOR."
- Mitt Romney
goat909295 2 hours ago
when's obama going to call a spade, a spade, regarding eric holder?
the Justice dept., under his watch, has been an abomination!
out with holder.....out with obama!!!!!!!!!
graysonTW 4 hours ago
Then we have the pansy ass Hollywood crowd. All they want is more of your money to feed their egos and snort stuff up their noses and then want you poor saps to feel sorry for them. Plus most of them are all useless liberal shitheads. Fuck them all and while I'm at it,fuck Obama and his ilk too.
bigtom714 15 hours ago
@meathead
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS A PARTY FOR RICH GUYS.
What are you doing there? In their mansions they are laughing at you. So easily led. Such a fool.
goat909295 15 hours ago
John Kerry,now there is a piece of work. Ted Kennedy too. Silver spoons and all. I'll take my chances with the likes of Romney and Trump. At least they know how to make money. The Obama lovers have bled this country dry. Obama had his shot and he blew it to the tune of $5 trillion that the taxpayers and their great great grand children will be saddled with for years. Thanks Obama,now it's time to step aside and let someone else give it a try.
bigtom714 15 hours ago
@bigtom714 Where to you get you BS numbers? The FACTS:
From 2001 to 2009, Bush's policies, including two wars, higher Pentagon spending in addition to those wars, tax cuts, higher discretionary spending and the prescription drug program contributed $5.1 TRILLION to the nation's debt.
From 2009 to 2017 (using projections for 2011-2017), Obama's policies have added or will add $983 billion.
Not even in the same ballpark!
ENOUGH of the GOPer/Baggers!!
Obama 2012 !!
brentj30 3 hours ago
Such a lost libby you are goat. You are not worth my time. An Obamabot till the bitter end and a fool to boot. Keep it up,I'm sure someone is getting a good laugh.
bigtom714 22 hours ago
Plus Romney knows how to make money. It's easy to spend money,especially if it's not yours. Obama's legacy is spending $5 trillion of money that doesn't belong to him. Some legacy. Maybe it's time for a money manager to lead us into some real prosperity. This constant deficit and debt crap has got to stop. Just say NO to Obama.But the boot licker you are will trump any common sense to do whats right. So blather on libby,it's all you do.
bigtom714 1 day ago
Washington DC is the rich mans party goat. Just look at all the millionaires in Congress from both partys. Your argument doesn't pass the test goat. If you want me to name names I could and so can you if you would get of your libby train long enough to look at the facts. It takes millions to become a Senator and millions to be speaker of the house. Just ask Pelosi nad Boehner. Wake up fool.I'm in no way saying that Romney is the guy. But I know that Obama is NOT the guy.
bigtom714 1 day ago
WHO'S TALKING ABOUT RICH DEMOCRATIC OR RICH REPUBLICAN politicians.
I'm talking about whose interests they side with. It is common knowledge that the rich Republican politicians cater to the interests of millionaires, and rich Democratic politicians cater to the interests of the middle class.
goat909295 1 day ago
The libby's silence speaks volumes. They just don't want America to succeed. They want the DC overlords to run their lives and tell them what to do and when to do it. Keep lickin' those those boots libbys,it's what you do best.
bigtom714 2 days ago
tehe, tsk, tsk, tsk. some cat said "goat" should be SHEEP! tehetehetehe! c'mon goater;................ "follow me, i'm the pied piiiiper, can't you see"! tehetehetehe!
that's the best one i've heard in a long time. wonder what he'd wanna call the weenie boy?
graysonTW 3 days ago
@grayhead
"The government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion."
- Treaty of Tripoli, passed unanimously by the U.S. Senate and signed by President John Adams (1797)
Hey gray, doesn't this make bullshit out of much of what you have been saying?
goat909295 2 days ago
REPUBLICANS ARE THE RICH GUY'S PARTY
Plus the fantasy-rich, the guy making $45K per yr and wants to identify with the rich.
Plus the anti-science crowd, the people who deny global warming and evolution.
goat909295 2 days ago
IF I WERE A MILLIONAIRE I would immediately join the Republican Party. They promise to cut my taxes so that capital gains (which I would have a lot of) are below even Romney's 14% rate.
BUT I'M NOT A MILLIONAIRE. My income is very average (US income averages $35K - $50K yr). So I don't want the rich guys to make more $ at my expense.
So I'm voting for Obama.
goat909295 2 days ago
@goat909295 ; babs streisand believes in global warming, etc., but she and her beloved still run up water bills to the tune of $22,000./year!
Her and John Kerry like to identify with "the poor"........tehetehe
graysonTW 20 hours ago
You are right about one thing brenty boy. Paul will run as a third party candidate and take much needed votes from Romney. Which will leave us stuck in the mud with the great spender Obama and his ilk for another four years. How's that for being a realist. We the people deserve better than this,but we'll be bled dry by the spendaholics in Washington and libbys like you can rejoice in the destruction of the USA.
bigtom714 3 days ago
Lets see,what would Obama do. Well we know he'll run the deficit up 5 or 6 trillion more. It's what he does best. He's and his ilk are hell bent on bringing the American people to there knees. We don't need people like Obama. He's been the most expensive piece of shit president in American history. Just say NO to Obama in 2012. It's the right thing to do.
bigtom714 6 days ago
@bigtom714 Oh, you are still so completely full of shit! Do you ever care to look into what the facts really are?
ENOUGH of the GOPer/Baggers !!
ENOUGH!!
Obama 2012 !!
brentj30 5 days ago
So Obama speaks last night. What does he say,more lies and rhetoric. It's all he's got and you fools gobble it up like candy.
bigtom714 1 week ago
What would Barak Obama do as President. Run up the deficit year after year until this country is on it's knees. But you anti American libbys still think he's the guy. I'm here to tell you that he's NOT the guy. He's a disgrace to every real American that cares about our formerly great country. You let the fox guard the hen house,this is what you get. The real problem is you anti American fools will re-elect this traitor.Fools to the bitter end you libbys are. Shame on you fools.
bigtom714 1 week ago
Q. WHAT WOULD OBAMA DO IF HE WAS PRESIDENT AGAIN
A. CONTINUE DEGRADING AMERICA'S ENEMIES
BY THE USE OF DRONES AND SPECIAL FORCES LIKE SEAL TEAM 6.
Here is a President who is willing to take a risk, if the payback is worth the risk. The Special Forces mission that rescued two people in Somalia yesterday could easily have gone bad.
Obama is the best Commander-in-Chief we've had since H.W. Bush. God bless Barack Obama, and God bless the USA.
goat909295 1 week ago
@goat909295 instead of goat, you should be sheep
soflachiropractor 5 days ago
Q. WHAT WOULD MITT ROMNEY DO IF HE WERE PRESIDENT ?
A. Re-structure the tax code so that millionaires are taxed at an even lower rate than they are now, putting more burden upon the middle class.
Think about it.
goat909295 1 week ago
Q. WHAT WOULD RICK SANTORUM DO IF HE WERE PRESIDENT ?
A. Make birth control illegal. Santorum is a strict Catholic and the Church condemns prophylactics and all other methods of birth control, except the risky "rhythm."
You won't be able to buy those Trojans in the drug store anymore. Think about it, guys.
goat909295 1 week ago
I regret voting for obama.....I regret it everyday.
smoochiezlove 1 week ago 7
"president obama has put more people on food stamps than any other President is history"!
Newt Gingrich
graysonTW 2 weeks ago
This commercial will be more appropriate for Ron Paul's ad campaign. The big face on the screen should either be Romney or Obama
puppyjoe69 2 weeks ago 8
OBAMA 2012 !!!!!!!!
Michthemitch 2 weeks ago
hollywood's pollitical contributions over recent years;
$11 million to the Republicans
$40 million to the Democrats
a great reason to rarely support the democruds!
Ron Paul in 2012
graysonTW 2 weeks ago 2
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yummybeefyboy 2 weeks ago
Apparently this thread is dead. You people don't know whats going on or you simply don't care. I,on the other hand care deeply about this country and the direction it's heading and I am not thrilled at all. But if you clowns think Obama and his ilk and Congress,especially the Senate are working for you,fine. Live in a dream world. I,for one do not live in a dream world.It's been fun. See ya in Utopia fools.
bigtom714 2 weeks ago
@bigtom714 just relax, you faggot. fascism is neat!
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silverspurs84 3 weeks ago
The Utopia that you think America is has been gone for many years libby. But whatever gets you to sleep at night. So when the big shots at GE or the bigshots at the insurance companies or George Soros tell Obama when and what to do. Just look the other way.
bigtom714 3 weeks ago
@meathead
RE: "When they come for you in the middle of the night and hold you in a dark cell . . . "
IF THEY FOLLOW YOU IN A BLACK HELICOPTER, YOU KNOW YOU ARE A HIGH PRIORITY TARGET.
(Hide from the helicopter by getting under a treel.)
goat909295 2 weeks ago
Just remember libby. When they come for you in the middle of the night and hold you in a dark cell in some unknown location for years on end without a lawyer or even telling you what the charges is are,you can say hey I thought this was a Democray and I thought I had a phone call and I thought I could get a lawyer. You are living in a dream world libby. Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me Obama is going to make it all right. I need a good laugh. Go on tell me.
bigtom714 3 weeks ago
I can't believe ppl are dumb enough to vote democrat
MrSilly30250 3 weeks ago
Could anybody write me out Hillary Clinton's speech in this video, please?
Qualcuno potrebbe trascrivemi il discorso di Hillary Clinton in questo video, per favore?
clairedebema 3 weeks ago
@bigtom714 Just so you don't misquote me AGAIN. Let me refresh your feeble memory. What I said was:
"Small" Government = Of the Corporations, By the Corporations and For the Corporations - and to HELL with American constitutional democracy for the rest.
"Big" Government = Of the People, By the People, and For the People - ALL 300+ Million American Citizens - a democratic government consistent with our constitution and Bill of Rights that works for ALL American citizens - that's "Big".
Indeed!
brentj30 3 weeks ago
You libbys have said in the past that you want a bigger government. Thats not American in my book.This government has failed us from the top down for a very long time. Lip service and blame games and apology tours and check your brain at the door economics is not leadership. You libbys know that. But you are such anti American assholes you can't bring yourself to agree with a realist like me,and thats too bad. I'm sure at one time you had something to offer. Not anymore libbys.
bigtom714 3 weeks ago
@bigtom714 WTF? I have NEVER said that I want a bigger government! Ridiculous!
What I have said is that I want an effective democratic government the works for We The People with next to no influence from the power of big corporate money. Campaign finance reform and adding laws that diminish the horrible mistake that the Supreme Court handed us with Citizens United.
The GOP does NOT want democracy - they want Oligarchy for the 1% and fuck the 99%. Wake up!
ENOUGH!
Obama 2012!
brentj30 3 weeks ago
@brentj30 Ron Paul 2012 asshole. I read you're statement and I was like "Oh shit, sweet another Ron Paul supporter. Than you threw me for a loop at the end.
LeoBaoig 2 weeks ago
@LeoBaoig I really do expect Ron Paul to run as the Third Party candidate. This could be good and bad as he will draw away a bunch of Tea Baggers (thats good) but, he will also draw away those one issue "I want my pot to be legal" fools (thats bad). But, I think effect will be net positive for Obama. We shall see ...
And, no, I do not work for the Obama admin. I am just a concerned citizen that is very interested in and fascinated by politics.
ENOUGH !!
Obama 2012 !!
brentj30 5 days ago
Obama and his ilk will do everything they can to increase government spending,keep us 99% in there place and gain as much power as possible. Obama has failed the American people time and time again. So lets fire the asshole and move on. We the people deserve better than this turkey Obama. Will Romney be any better,who knows,but I say give him a shot at it. Obama = Failure,we know that.So oust the bastard and move forward. What's wrong with that. Freepassing on Obama for 3 years is a joke libbys.
bigtom714 3 weeks ago
@bigtom714 Romney will be the EXACT SAME AS OBAMA. Ron Paul 2012
LeoBaoig 2 weeks ago
But you won't because you two idiots are such anti American fuckheads. Who would rather see this country fail. But smarter heads will prevail and Obama and his ilk will be "fired".And if Obama isn't fired it's because the idiot lazyass entitlement losers are happy with the way things are. Obama = the status quo and must be sent packing in November. Go Romney Go
bigtom714 3 weeks ago
@bigtom714 What a load of crap out of you!
I am 100% PRO-American democracy.
And, while democracy lives, America lives.
One thing that is absolutely certain, Mitt "Corporations are People, My Friend" Romney couldn't give TWO SHITS for OUR American democracy! Today's GOP leaders wants nothing but corporate Oligarchy. This is the TRUTH of it. Without question, the superior alternative is President Obama.
The GOP won't be able to sort its shit out for decades.
Obama 2012 !!
brentj30 3 weeks ago
@bigtom714 Holy shit, don't comment anymore you keep tricking me. Ron Paul 2012
LeoBaoig 2 weeks ago
If you "freethinkers" would get on the stick. You would see that Obama does not have a clue. But when one of you thinks he's a "god" and the other is such a commie.Well enough said. I'm sure your Mitt jokes and all the "clown posse" crap is all you have. I dare you guys to keep an eye on Obama and enough of the "freepassing". Try it once,you may learn something.
bigtom714 3 weeks ago
barry has a 45% approval rating for his handling of the economy an a 37% approval rating for his exploits for the unemployed!
best barry obama quip; 'i haven't been to cambridge, ma. nor have i spoken with anyone who was there, but the cambridge police acted stupidly'!
that inert little bubble of gas never speaks outta turn, does he?...........tehe!
graysonTW 3 weeks ago
Oh, I actually do have one more thing. Can't decide what the BEST Romney line is:
Mitt "Phoney Baloney Flip-Flopping" Romney
Mitt "Corporations are People, my Friend" Romney
Mitt "I like firing people ... do we have enough pink slips?" Romney
Mitt "I grew up privileged, free-ride thru college, destroyed jobs to become fabulously RICH, but, I'm now unemployed and can 'feel your pain' O'dwindling middle class" Romney
Mitt "Why Don't You'all Like Me?" Romney
ENOUGH of the GOP !!
Obama 2012 !!
brentj30 3 weeks ago
@brentj30 Another tricky comment. Ron Paul 2012
LeoBaoig 2 weeks ago
One more thing before I go. Build the damn pipeline.
bigtom714 3 weeks ago
@bigtom714 One more thing before I go. BLOCK that STUPID goddamn pipeline indefinitely!
ENOUGH !!
Obama 2012 !!
brentj30 3 weeks ago
Obama,remember him commies. He lends $500 million of our taxpaer money to Solyndra and they go belly up. Try getting that money back fellas. Then to make matters worse,he lends or actully gives money ($500 million each) to Fiskar Automotive and Tesla Motors to build cars,in finland and Germany. So this is our illustrious leader. Check your brain at the door economics is more like it. I say oust this turkey before we all regret it. But keep "freepassing" commies. It's what you do best.
bigtom714 3 weeks ago
Plus commie,the blame Bush crap is priceless. You Obama lovers just can't get off that train can you. Priceless.
bigtom714 3 weeks ago
Plus throse 50% probaly employ a good percent of the work force in this country,not to mention 401k accounts and IRAs and other pension and retirement accounts. When the corporations do good,it's good for all of us commie. So go spout your trash somewhere else.
Plus,just say NO to Obama in 2012.
bigtom714 3 weeks ago
To Summarize Meathead:
WHATEVER THE CORPORATIONS WANT, IS GOOD FOR AMERICA.
That's some kind of "thinking," that is.
goat909295 3 weeks ago
@meathead:
RE: "When the corporations do good, it's good for all of us, commie."
Meathead, are you sure you're not a robot? Take a look between your legs.
goat909295 3 weeks ago
@goat909295 You because, as Romney said "Corporations are people, my friend"
Ha! What a joke Mitten and all of his Kitten candidates are!
ENOUGH of the GOPer/Baggers !!
Obama 2012 !!
brentj30 3 weeks ago
A CEO, a tea party member, and a union worker are all sitting at a table when a plate with a dozen cookies arrives. Before anyone else can make a move, the CEO reaches out to rake in eleven of the cookies. When the other two look at him in surprise, the CEO locks eyes with the tea party member. "You better watch him," the executive says with a nod toward the union worker. "He wants a piece of your cookie."
Forbes reported that only 400 citizens of the USA own 50% of all the wealth of the USA.
brentj30 3 weeks ago
@bigtom714
That national debt has indeed risen over the last three years, BUT for reasons that have a GREAT DEAL to do with ... George W. Bush and Congress.
FACT: The perpetuation of the BUSH tax cuts, the continuation of the BUSH new prescription drug benefit, the management of the BUSH wars and the interest payments on debt that BUSH accumulated account for the lions share of the additional sum that has occurred under Obama. Debt growth will stop once tax breaks for billionaires expire.
brentj30 3 weeks ago
Don't forget libby,$15 trillion and counting. But continue "freepassing". It's what you do best.
bigtom714 3 weeks ago
I don't really want a war either libby,but I wouldn't be opposed to taking care of these assholes before they do something stupid like stopping the oil through the Strait of Hormuz. But I'm sure you really don't care what I have to say anyways libby. You are too busy "freepassing" Obama and his ilk,you don't have time for foreign policy. So sit back people and watch the wuss Obama in action. Oh,it's gonna be a fun year.
bigtom714 3 weeks ago
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eliasmouawad 3 weeks ago
Simple reality is that:
Conservatism is nothing more than fascism and monarchialism in new wrapping.
Libertarianism is nothing more than a pale gloss over anarchy with a healthy dose of childish me-ism.
Liberalism contains all the resources needed to effectively govern a free society for ALL of We The People.
History has proven the truth of this over and over again and the founders formed this democratic republic to prevent Corporate (today's GOP) fascism or Libertarian (Ron Paul) anarchy.
brentj30 3 weeks ago
@brentj30; we'll see how anti-Ron Paul you "progressives" are when we get into some hyper-inflation issues.
i heard people talking today of $5/gal. gas by June. we'll see how supportive any of you are of a $3/4 trillion annual defense budget......or the $30 billion/year in pell grants and tax increases to keep supporting the nonsense!
Ron Paul on the debate stage last night.
"I was married and had 2 kids when I got drafted during Vietnam;...........and I went"!
graysonTW 3 weeks ago
@graysonTW Ron Paul's idiotic "lets return to the gold standard" mantra would do nothing BUT create massive hyper-inflation issues.
This is Ron Paul's last hurrah and he will fizzle out ... again ... and for the last time. At his age, he's done. His two good ideas don't make up for the exceedingly long list of idiocy within his ideology. Because of that, he will continue to fool only a small percentage of Americans ... like YOU!
ENOUGH of the GOPer/PAULer/Baggers !!
Obama 2012 !!
brentj30 3 weeks ago
@brentj30 Rofl, you must be getting spoon fed by CNN. Ron Paul 2012
LeoBaoig 2 weeks ago
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brentj30 3 weeks ago
@graysonTW
Ron Paul may come off as humble sometimes but, his ego is a big as his ideological HARD-ON to push American democracy back to the 1800's - eliminate civil rights laws, eliminate child labor laws, eliminate social security and medicare, eliminate student financial aid, eliminate environmental regulation, the list goes on! Sorry but, that is simply ridiculous and makes Ron Paul UN-electable.
I know exactly that of which I speak, Grayson!
ENOUGH of the GOPer/Baggers !!
Obama 2012 !!
brentj30 3 weeks ago
@brentj30 Lol. You must be an Obama staffer. hahahahaha
LeoBaoig 2 weeks ago
to avoid a war with iran simply takes a vote for Ron Paul. as a vietman veteran, he sees the harm and ill will it promotes. these other meddling mongers are all the SAME, be it REPUBLICAN or DEMOCRAT!
you are either going to vote for a man who is absolutely AGAINST military interventionism or you're going to vote for a REPUBLICRAT who supports ALL OF IT!
we are the #1 military power on earth and the world knows it!
why must we continue flexing our muscle?
graysonTW 3 weeks ago
@graysonTW
I SO hope that Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul both end up running as 3rd party candidates ... they are such egotists I can see it happening just so they can be in the fall debates.
Their toxic influence will only further tarnish an already hopelessly damaged GOP image.
ENOUGH of the GOPer/Baggers !!
Obama 201`2 !!
brentj30 3 weeks ago
@brentj30 ; Ron Paul ..... an "egotist"???
he's got to be about as HUMBLE a man as we've seen in D.C. in ages. maybe since Abe Lincoln. you've sure used a word to describe him that in no way applies. do you undertand the word "egotist"?
and his view of our military interventionism doesn't make him an isolationist at all. in fact his plan would increase our acceptability in the world.
you know nothing of which you speak, little man!
when your kids get DRAFTED, think of RON PAUL
graysonTW 3 weeks ago
@brentj30 ROFL
LeoBaoig 2 weeks ago
You're right libby. War with Iran is coming and maybe with North korea and there is nothing you can do about it. You can bet Obama the puppet will bend to the will of the military industrial complex or risk getting a bullet in the head. So don't bother to say stupid things like your last posting. The world is a nasty place. So do you want to be on the winning side,then keep your mouth shut and go about your life and just let the powers that be do there stuff. There is nothing you can do anyways.
bigtom714 3 weeks ago
MEATHEAD, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY
You have outdone yourself. You have put together the most meatheaded posting in a long, long while.
Some thoughts on it:
* The notion that we are eventually going to war with Iran -- so we might as well do it now -- is mind-boggling. Several billion people on planet Earth are thankful that President Kennedy did not believe this during the Cuban missile crisis. If he did, they would have died in a nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union.
goat909295 3 weeks ago
MEATHEAD 2
* The notion that there is nothing you and I can do to avoid a war with Iran is simply wrong. DON'T VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN.
goat909295 3 weeks ago
@bigtom714 Hey now! There's the gloomy Gloomster we've come to know! Doom and Gloom!
Well, sorry to disappoint, Gloomster, but there are an overwhelming majority of proud citizens in the USA that do not want any war with Iran and their voice HAS BEEN HEARD! Obama WILL NOT start a war with Iran.
And Grayson, fuck Ron Paul and his isolationist nonsense! We share this planet with all nations and must engage them at some level to prevent war and learn to understand one another.
Obama 2012 !!
brentj30 3 weeks ago
@brentj30 HAHAHHAHAA I don't know if I can take it anymore. RROFLFROFLORLF
LeoBaoig 2 weeks ago
IF REPUBLICANS ARE IN THE WHITE HOUSE, WE WILL HAVE A WAR.
goat909295 4 weeks ago
"we face a true revlution in the fundamental choices the American people will have to make to secure our fiscal future"!
alan greenspan
sounds like greenspan might be supporting .................. RON PAUL
graysonTW 4 weeks ago
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TERRORIST because I'm not with Bush.
ANTISEMITIC for not supporting Rothechild Zionism.
TEABAGGER for supporting the Constitution.
TRUTH-ER for asking unanswered questions.
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RON PAUL 2012!
MysterieusM 4 weeks ago
@iiexitwoundii Oh, most assuredly not. But, I suspect you are a lackwit.
brentj30 4 weeks ago
President Obama Has Made Far Fewer Recess Appointments Than Any Recent President. Despite the inevitable conservative complaints that President Obama is engaged in some kind of massive overreach by recess appointing Richard Cordray as the nation’s chief consumer financial protection watchdog, the truth is that Obama has used his recess appointment power very sparingly.
Recess Appointments:
Obama : 29
W. Bush : 171
Clinton :139
H.W. Bush : 77
Reagan : 243
ENOUGH of the GOP!!
Obama 2012 !!
brentj30 4 weeks ago
@brentj30 Are you retarded?
iiexitwoundii 4 weeks ago
DES MOINES, Iowa -- The final Iowa results are in. The big winner: President Barack Obama.
The dismal, nasty campaigns here were not good for the Republican Party or the country. There was precious little debate on anything other than who literally was Holier than Thou; the dollars spent on attack ads were, vote for vote, enormous!
All of which is good news for President Obama who will have a weak GOP opponent next November. The GOP has no solid candidate.
ENOUGH of the GOP !!
Obama 2012 !!
brentj30 4 weeks ago
ben bernancke said today that the Fed. will start publshing an interest rate forecast!
D.C.'s loudest voice for transparency from the Fed. for the last 20 years has been Ron Paul!
it wasn't OBUMMER, GWB, SLICK WILLIE, HILLARY, BIDEN, or NEWT!
the plans are for interest rates to hover near 0% for at least another year.
the Fed. represents one of the most unethical, if not criminal, organizations in the U.S.A.
who's fought for 20 years to ELIMINATE the FEDERAL RES?
RON PAUL in 2012
graysonTW 1 month ago
@graysonTW Ha! HA! Just as I suspected you would do - TRIPPLE down on your ignorance and OWN it! IDIOT!
Oh, and, you can rest assured that I have done my homework on Ron Paul. Getting rid of the FED and making the printing of money having nothing to do with private banks is a VERY good idea as I have said on this thread before and is NOT a Paul original idea, either. Unfortunately, Ron Paul's other ideas would knock the "progress" of the USA right back into the 1800's! Ridiculous!
brentj30 1 month ago
if Ron Paul is unelectable it's because "intellects"....*chuckle*....like you....*chuckle* don't know enough about economics or the Constitution to even begin to comprehend what he says!
that's simply another black eye for the voting public in the U.S.A.!
you want another REPUBLICRAT in the WHITEHOUSE then vote for someone else!
when the country declares BANKRUPTCY....remember who could have prevented it.
when your kids get DRAFTED to fight a U.N. sanctioned skirmish, think of RON PAUL!
graysonTW 1 month ago
if being anti-obama makes me a racist, then i'm a racist!
if being against our wars and involvement in middle east affairs makes me a terrorist, then i'm a terrorist!
if being against foreign aid to israel makes me anti-semite, then i'm anti-semite!
RON PAUL in 2012
graysonTW 1 month ago
@graysonTW
And, again, you won't touch the bogus "USA Christian Nation" nonsense.
WHY? Because you have NO LEG to stand on and you know it!
ENOUGH !!
Obama 2012 !!
brentj30 1 month ago
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Ron Paul is a racist Nazi, who was endorsed, PAID by Don Balke, David Duke Nazi Stormfront, Farrakhan, Islamic jihadist and other American haters.
icans are criminals or Semi criminals, that Jews are plotting against America and he promoted racial war as a tool for taking America. His racism was even caught on tape:dailymail(.)co.uk/news/article-2078217/Newly-uncovered-videos-letter-Ron-Paul-promoting-racist-newsletters--long-said-knew-them(.)html
He didn't change-his rhetoric did
Tomislavv2 1 month ago
@ graysonTW
The USA is a Nation with many Christians. The USA is a Christian-tolerant nation, along with many other religions, too. But, our laws are not based on the Bible nor do we govern from the Bible. These functions are defined by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, underscored by the 1st Amendment, making NO LAW respecting an establishment of religion.
Is it possible for an evangelical christian nutjob such as yourself to admit the truth of this?
brentj30 1 month ago
Scott Pelley's comment on tonight's CBS evening news in response to something Rick Santorum said regarding blacks and welfare.
"our research shows that 84% of the food stamps disbursed in the state of Iowa go to white people while 9% go to blacks"!
it brought out the INVESTIGATOR in me.
MY research then showed me that the demographic breakdown in Iowa is as follows:
91.3% WHITE and 2.9% BLACK!
it's a case of absolute and flagrantly distorted journalism.
the skunks think we're all STUPID!
graysonTW 1 month ago
@graysonTW So, what is your point - that poor black children are getting more than their fair-and-balanced share of food bought with food stamps? Oh, for shame!
Seriously now, why don't you address something other than trumped up outrage.
brentj30 1 month ago
@brentj30 ; methinks you know what MY point is, little guy!
do you get what Scott Pelley's point was?..........tehe, tehe, tehe!
CBS thinks we're all m0r0ns!....and in your case, they're right!
graysonTW 1 month ago
@graysonTW Ha! HA! Just as I suspected you would do - double down on your ignorance and OWN it!
ENOUGH of the GOPer/Baggers !!
ENOUGH !!
Obama 2012 !!
And, the unelectable "Mr 1800's" Ron Paul for the GOPer nomination !!
(wink-wink !)
brentj30 1 month ago
You can thank Ronald Reagan for the poor quality of Journalism today as it was his administration that did away with the Fairness Doctrine.
The Fairness Doctrine was a policy of the United States FCC, introduced in 1949, that required the holders of broadcast licenses to both present controversial issues of public importance and to do so in a manner that was, in the Commission's view, honest, equitable and balanced.
Why? To make way for "profit motive" entertainment news.
brentj30 1 month ago
@graysonTW I guess you had to change the subject with something - anything - instead of admit that I schooled you on your misguided and historically inaccurate "USA was founded on Christianity" nonsense.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
- John Adams
brentj30 1 month ago
Still not talking about our useless president are you libby. You should be more concerned with the asswipe in Hawaii than with anyone in Iowa. But,the libby in you will not allow you to be an unbiased freethinking American. Thats too bad. I'll continue to do your job for you,because while you are freepassing,I'm keeping an eye on the useless bastard Obama and his ilk. So carry on libby. Have fun and don't worry about a thing.
bigtom714 1 month ago
RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT
. . . if it takes a Third Party.
goat909295 1 month ago
HEY, IF YOU'RE IN IOWA
VOTE FOR RON PAUL.
He is only honest politician there.
goat909295 1 month ago
YEA, RON PAUL !
(wink-wink.)
goat909295 1 month ago
@goat909295
YES! Ron PAUL, Ron PAUL, Ron PAUL !!!
(wink-wink!)
brentj30 1 month ago
Hey libbys,build the damn pipeline.
bigtom714 1 month ago
So,Michelle Obama says on 60 minutes that Americans are going to have to sacrifice to bring about change. Does that include paying $4 million for you and Barak to take separate planes so you can hang out in Hawaii for two weeks. I don't think so Michelle. You and your spending husband have got to go. Then you can go on a permanent vacation and "we the people" can move on without you. Get real Obamas.
bigtom714 1 month ago
one more thing ...
It was 209 years ago today, on January 1, 1802, that President Thomas Jefferson wrote his famous letter to the Baptists of Banbury, CT, about the "wall of separation between Church & State."
May the original intent of 1st Amendment forever be upheld as a cornerstone of democracy.
We should all be celebrating Thomas Jefferson's letter today - and every day. It's greatly to the benefit of all of us Americans and a great example to the rest of the world, too.
brentj30 1 month ago
@brentj30 ; we've set an exemplary standard for the rest of the world. we feed people, we defend people and territories, we share technology, we educate foreigners, etc.
our Christian foundations likely led us to do these things! Wise Up!
graysonTW 1 month ago
@graysonTW IF YOU KNEW factual history of the founders, you would know that some founders were most adamantly NOT Christians and, because of their influence, they led us to add the 1st Amendment to the Bill of Rights - much against the wishes of other founders who were of the "overly charismatic Christian theology-pushing" variety.
Don't think you can re-write well documented history, Grayson! You have already lost that battle to the actual facts.
ENOUGH !!
Obama 2012 !!
brentj30 1 month ago
"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma." - Abraham Lincoln
"I have recently been examining all the known superstitions of the world, and do not find in our particular superstition (Christianity) one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology."
- Thomas Jefferson
"The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity." - John Adams
brentj30 1 month ago
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise." James Madison
"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of
Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not
advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To
make half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites." -- Thomas Jefferson
brentj30 1 month ago
@bigtom714 The point is, Righty, the Dems NEVER had filibuster-proof majority control of Congress - not even for one minute. On top of that, the RepubliCON's have invoked the filibuster an unprecedented 120 times in the last three years to stop ANY and ALL legislation that would help the economy or improve OUR democracy. Why? Because they HATE democracy!
"Stop spreading disinformation" should be your New Years resolution, Gloomster.
Happy New Year !!
Obama 2012 !!
brentj30 1 month ago
One more thing,build the damn pipeline.
bigtom714 1 month ago
@bigtom714 And, as for the pipeline ... HELL NO !! Let Canada keep their toxic tar sands as they are clearly NOT the answer to our future energy problems.
I suspect you really don't know anything about the tar sands or the pipeline, do you? Please, bone up on the facts before you pop off like an idiot. Try not to ONLY read what the OIL industry has to day about it - you are not going to find the truth there.
ENOUGH of the GOPer/Baggers !!
Obama 2012 !!
brentj30 1 month ago
The point is libby,that the Dems had control of Congress for the first two years of Obama and what did they do. Spend like there is no tomorrow. Plus libby,Obama is three years in and it's well past time to stop the blame game. I know it,you know it and everybody else knows it. So your little libby hissy fit rings hollow as usual. If we had a leader in the White House,you wouldn't have to play your blame game. Happy New Year libby. Let's hope it's better than 2011.
bigtom714 1 month ago
RepubliCON 2012 Agenda:
Keeping Millions Out of Work Just to Put One Man Out of a Job
ENOUGH of the GOPer/Baggers !!
Obama 2012 !!
brentj30 1 month ago
all Democrats vote in the Republican primaries where you can and Vote Ron Paul. Republicans will never vote for Paul in the General election.
john777316 1 month ago
@john777316 ; sssooooooo, newcomer, you're someone who thinks the obama admin. has been good for the country!
how so? unemployment and the economy are bad; the situation in afghanistan and pakistan is horrid; the nat'l. debt is totally out of control!
graysonTW 1 month ago
@graysonTW "unemployment and the economy are bad" YES, because the Republican minority in Congress want it the STAY bad!
"situation in afghanistan and pakistan is horrid" YES, and we can than George W. Bush and company for dropping that ball.
"the nat'l. debt is totally out of control!" YES, and we can be certain RepubliCON's will continue to ensure the economy stays down and that the deficit continues to grow in the hopes that We The People will abandon democracy for Oligarchy.
brentj30 1 month ago
@graysonTW I am not sure I would say Obama is or was good for the country but as a business owner that deals with reality I have not heard one good conservative position I could back.
john777316 1 month ago
@john777316 Why? Because the conservative corporatist position in Washington is to unabashedly support the 1% - small business be damned!
Romney, Newt, and the rest of the clowns the GOP is parading around will do nothing but suck up to the 1% like good little corporatist puppets. The GOP has nothing to offer towards governing this country towards recovery. All they have is painfully damaging austerity measures and an end to democracy sold to their base with with fear and lies.
brentj30 1 month ago
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@john777316
RE: "all Democrats vote in the Republican primaries where you can..."
Excellent idea! That and fighting voter I.D. laws so we can steal as many votes as possible to secure an Obama win!
That way we can pay back all the fat cat donors, Big Labor, Big Education, Big Alternative Energy and Wall Street.
nmcnmb 1 month ago
MICHELLE BACHMANN AND RON PAUL MUD WRESTLING !!!
At issue: Bachmann claims Ron Paul stole her panties. Paul denies it. Says her panties just showed up on his campaign bus.
Bachmann is pissed, says she will do a take-down in the mud. Paul says he isn't much interested in wrestling a panty-less Bachmann, but you have to realize the man is 75 yrs old.
Mud wrestling ! See it now on CNN.
goat909295 1 month ago
I told you clowns that Obama should have ordered the destruction of that drone in Iran. But nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. So when our technology gets in other hands you anti Americans are okay with that. Plus my dear libby friends,a war with Iran is going to happen sooner or later. Whether it's Israel bombing their nuke facilities or the USA bombing them before they decide to flex their muscles. Wake up people.
bigtom714 1 month ago
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NOTES ON GOING TO WAR WITH IRAN
* The Iranian nuclear program reminds us of the Iraqi WMDs. We've done that, been there. We aren't going to war again for you damned conservative hawks. Any fool can start a war. It takes a good man to end a war (Obama and Iraq).
* The drone that crashed in Iran was probably a Predator B (also called a MQ-9 Reaper). You DO NOT KNOW that one in Iranian hands is a set-back for us. That is all your conjecture, and you want to go to war over a guess?
goat909295 1 month ago
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NOTES . . .
RE: "a war with Iran is going to happen sooner or later. Whether it's Israel bombing their nuke facilities or the USA bombing them before they decide to flex their muscles . . ."
YOU CLAIM that a war with Iran will happen anyway so we might as well do it now.
THAT IS THE MOST MINDLESS train of thought I've heard in 2011. Congratulations, meathead, you've won the award for MOST MINDLESS "THINKING."
goat909295 1 month ago
I forgot,Obama,for sale to the highest bidder,check. Once a puppet,always a puppet,check. Status quo,double check.
bigtom714 1 month ago
Very cool remake of the worlds most popular commercial. I love hillery.
indavewetrust 1 month ago
So what does the left wingnut Obama have to offer. Lets see,sleazeball,check,an empty suit, check,on the fringe,left that is,check,who is this junior Senator anyways,oh yeah, the monster that George Soros created in his lab,check. Lets all hope to get rid of this monster in Nov. 2012,check. By the way,there is only 50 states check.Plus being another $5 trillion in debt is no picnic,check.
bigtom714 1 month ago
RAMS vs. COLTS
Romney vs. Gingrich in Iowa are like the NFL's Colts vs. Rams. Double losers against each other. Dog of the Week.
Continuing the football analogy, the rest of the also-ran candidates (Perry, Paul, Bachmann etc) are like middle-school teams.
President Obama and the Democrats are more like the Green Bay Packers.
goat909295 1 month ago
WINGNUTS HAVE SUCH BUNCH OF LOSERS TO CHOOSE FROM
ROMNEY - Changes opinion like a windvane changes direction, however the wind blows
GINGRICH - Sleazeball
PAUL - Way out there on the fringe of everything
BACHMANN - An empty suit
SANTORUM - Who he?
PERRY - illiterate cowboy
Did you ask Santa for a decent candidate ?
goat909295 1 month ago
Happy Hanukkah....keep the $4 billion in aid comin' to the 3rd most prolifically nuclear armed nation on earth!
graysonTW 1 month ago
Happy Kwanzaa...:/
buickbrat 1 month ago in playlist Barry Obozo and Libidiots
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I CAN TELL YOU UNEQUIVOCALLY THAT WHAT IS ABOUT TO TRANSPIRE STARTING TOMORROW - NEXT WEEK IS GOING TO BE DIRECTLY BECAUSE OF A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE. IF I WERE TO RANK WHO'S MOST RESPONSIBLE SHE'D BE #4 OR SO AND IT'S BECAUSE THIS ARKANSAS BAR FAILURE GENITAL HERPES 0 ACCOMPLISHMENTS hillary DECIDED TO SIT ON HER FLABBY ASS AND DO NOTHING
2ND YEAR LIKE THIS
IT MIGHT BE VERY SOON
BUT THAT'LL BE NOTHING COMPARED TO MGE-B
Eleetnessful 1 month ago
Merry Christmas fellas!
nmcnmb 1 month ago
@alphabethead and everyone here:
Have a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2012, excepting perhaps the elections.
goat909295 1 month ago
I see libby goater will NOT talk about his "god" Obama .Why is that. I guess he has nothing good to say about him or talking about the mighty "god" Obama is taboo. It's hilarious thats for sure. Anyways have a Merry Christmas.
bigtom714 1 month ago
we've gone over this all before, goater! anti-Christian kooks like sam harris spew incessantly about anything pertaining to Heaven, Hell, Life, Death, morality, immorality, etc.
he's a neuroscientist....a philosopher....he doesn't have a CLUE as to how life really began! yet his ilk KNOWS there is no God!
must then mean HIS opinion means no more than any "man in the streets"!
the vast majority of theologians believe there is a God. what the phuck (your word) business is it of scientists?
graysonTW 1 month ago
@grayhead
NOTES IN REPLY
* You didn't answer my question regarding life beyond Earth. See "Question for Grayhead."
* If Sam Harris expressed an opinion about global warming, that opinion has no more value than that of any man in the street. His expertise is NOT climatology.
* I listen to scientists to understand the universe. Scientists do not talk about God. Their expertise is the NATURAL WORLD. Not the SUPERNATURAL WORLD.
* Please answer my question.
goat909295 1 month ago
@goat909295 ; sam harris. steve weinberg, etc ARE SCIENTISTS and they are constantly saying there is no God!
"scientists don't talk about God"??????????????????????????
graysonTW 1 month ago
@grayhead
SORRY, I LEFT OUT A WORD.
It should read, "Scientists do not talk about God AUTHORITATIVELY. Their expertise is the NATURAL WORLD. Not the SUPERNATURAL WORLD.
Sure, they may have opinions about the supernatural, but these opinions are no better than those of the man-in-the-street.
Science studies the natural world and is the only authority on the natural world. From atoms to life on earth one million yrs ago to Big Bang, they are the only authority. Not the church.
goat909295 1 month ago
When you want a leader,vote for a leader. If you want a puppet,vote for Obama.
bigtom714 1 month ago
what a joke that assessment is, goater, and you know it.
sam harris is a scientist who spends all his time jabbering about religion and ethics!
bill maher is an athiest jew who spends all his time condemning religion and conservatism!
jimmy fallon and stephen colbert get quoted on this thread like they had degrees in LIFE!
and you yummies swallow every mouthful!
but THOMAS SOWELL has -0- business having an opinion on global warming!
and you don't WANNA hear his ECONOMICS lessons, goater!!!
graysonTW 1 month ago
@graysonTW
Ha! Ha! Wow, you really are an idiot! Ignorance is NOT a virtue!
Thank you, Grayson, for the comic relief, though, as it is much appreciated!
FYI, just so you actually learn something today: Sam Harris has a PhD in neuroscience AND a B.A. in philosophy. His research is particularly interested in the learning development of the brain of which includes religions and ethics in human social development.
ENOUGH of the GOPer/Baggers !!
Obama 2012 !!
brentj30 1 month ago
@brentj30 ; Thomas Sowell's fields of expertise include economics, history, politics, and CHILDHOOD development.
is your arse actually trying to tell me that sam harris is more elitely educated or better equipped to tell us about the human species?
go fly a kite, junior!
graysonTW 1 month ago
@grayhead
RE: "Thomas Sowell's fields of expertise include economics, history, politics, and CHILDHOOD development."
ZERO SCIENCE in there, grayhead. Without a background in science, preferably meteorology / climatology, his opinion is as worthless as any man in the street.
goat909295 1 month ago
@goat909295 ; with Sowell's expertise in child development he's every bit as qualified to make statements regarding the "learning development" of the brain as Sam (sad sack) Harris is.
you have an inordinate amount of respect for scientists for some reason, goater!
there are brilliant people in all aspects of life.
graysonTW 1 month ago
NOTES IN REPLY
* Our topic is global warming. Thomas Sowell does not believe in it. I said Slowell's opinion is of absolutely no value since he is not an expert in any field related to climate.
* I have a great deal of respect for scientists. I value their beliefs as being true when they all agree.
* I do not have any respect at all for the scientific opinions of non-scientists.
* Science got us where we are in our understanding of the universe. Not religion.
goat909295 1 month ago
QUESTION FOR GRAYHEAD
Let us suppose the space craft that lands on Mars next August finds evidence that a primitive form of life evolved on that planet but died off.
The vast majority of the world's scientists agree and conclude that life can arise anywhere conditions are suitable. Planets orbiting distant stars may harbor life.
Religious leaders say God gives all creation to man ("dominion over all things"). They say the scientists must be wrong.
Who would you believe?
goat909295 1 month ago
@goat909295
RE: The vast majority of the world's scientists agree and conclude that life can arise anywhere conditions are suitable. Planets orbiting distant stars may harbor life"
It is written..
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." -- Genesis 1:1
nmcnmb 1 month ago
@alphabethead
* HEY nmcnmb, Good to hear from you.
* What does "the heavens and the earth" mean? Big Bang created the universe. Could God have caused Big Bang and thereby indirectly created these heavens and earth?
* A priest told me once that if evolution was ever proved, the Catholic Church could readily accept it providing that at some point in the life of primitive man, God gave him an immortal soul.
* How would you answer the question I gave to Grayhead?
goat909295 1 month ago
@goathead909295
RE: "Could God have caused Big Bang and thereby indirectly created these heavens and earth?"
He's God. I guess he could do anything according to Christian beliefs.
nmcnmb 1 month ago
WHEN IT COMES TO SCIENCE, I BELIEVE SCIENTISTS. Not commentators on the sideline.
Thomas Sowall can lecture me about economics because that's his field of expertise. However, since economists DISAGREE with each other, Sowall's opinion is not conclusive.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE WORLD'S CLIMATOLOGISTS are the ones with the expertise on the topic of climate change. They agree. I should listen to THEM.
When you want a haircut, go to a barber, not some small-engine repair guy.
goat909295 1 month ago
So,while you libs are blathering. Congress just passed the two month version of the payroll tax cut. So all your libby bitchin' was a waste of time. Just like all this yapping about global warming. But you know what this means now. The puppet Obama can join his crew in Hawaii for Christmas. Have a Merry Chrismas President Obama,we'll all still be here when you get back.
bigtom714 1 month ago
NOTES:
* QUOTING THOMAS SOWELL on global warming is like quoting a kindergardener on our foreign policy in the Mideast.
* WOULD I BET MY PAYCHECK ON TOMORROW'S WEATHER FORECAST ? Damn right. In the last 10 yrs forecasters have accumulated a vast computer library of weather situations and what happens from them. Forecasts are usually spot on.
I'd be a millionaire! But I'd want to pay my fair share of taxes. How about you, grayhead?
goat909295 1 month ago
"too much of what is called EDUCATION is little more than isolation from reality"!
Thomas Sowell
anyone can play this game; even brentj30; tehe!
of course i wouldn't assume Thomas Sowell was talking about the likes of Aron Ra, Pat Condell, Bill Maher, or any of those 'intellects'
graysonTW 1 month ago
"would you bet your paycheck on a weather forecast for tomorrow"? "If not, then why should this country be betting billions on global warming predictions that have even less foundation"!
Thomas Sowell......not a biologist or climatologist, but for sure, a THINKER!
graysonTW 1 month ago
@grayhead
THOMAS SOWELL has a background in economics and political writing. He has knows ZERO science. ZERO.
When we say that 99% of the world's climatologists believe in global warming, why would you quote a political writer and member of the conservative Hoover think tank.
As a conservative / libertarian, it is in his interest that global warming doesn't exist. You should learn when someone can speak authoritatively, and when it is just hot air. (Hotter all the time).
goat909295 1 month ago
@goat909295 - didn't scientists at one time all agree the world was flat ??? you would of been supporting them back then as well I take it.
RightWingTV 1 month ago
@RightWingTV Actually, it was the Clergy and the layman who believed the world was flat based in part on religious beliefs centuries old (divinely inspired and dead wrong). It was the efforts of early scientists that proved that the earth was round and actually revolved around the sun. This disproved the religious belief that the universe did NOT revolve around the earth as the center.
Religion is an old, failed science and needs to re-write itself back into relevance again.
brentj30 1 month ago
THE VERY WEALTHY AND UNREGULATED CORPORATIONS
ARE PIMPLES ON THE REAR END OF PROGRESS.
Wingnuts like grayhead, brickhead, and meathead are merely pus in those pimples.
Theme for 2012: POP THOSE PIMPLES !
goat909295 1 month ago
Oh, man! The GOPers are really fucking up in House of Congress!
Republican after Republican today are just ripping the Tea Baggin' House Congressmen for being complete dip-shits they are!
Ha Ha! Oh, the comedy ... thank you Tea Baggers for the wonderful public display of idiocy that is even making the most disconnected citizens pay attention and say WTF is WRONG with the GOP!
HA HA HA!
ENOUGH of the GOPer/Baggers !!
Obama 2012 !!
brentj30 1 month ago