DEADTIDE - Anthem of the Insomniac | Vocal Preview

[yourtheman45]

Vocals should be deep

[stevem3tal]

the vocals sound like black metal but great song!

[yamiimax]

the vocals are really good but the quality not and i dont find vocals on your myspace btw good melodeath band is climhazzard must check

[blackened138]

@yamiimax Thanks! This video is the only vocal preview we've released. We want to surprise everyone with the rest when we release our EP, which is going to be very soon!! We're putting finishing touches on it in our spare time. And yes, I've heard Climhazzard before. They're really good! :]

[missanajade]

0:14 you sexy beast!

[blackened138]

@missanajade why thank you! ;]

[inflamersss]

With all due respect - Schuldiner was a pioneer. Vocal timbre can be similar, but the drums and guitars are not so technical. See concerts, as a drummer working with the drum kit, where the party is very complicated, it's still a metal of the new formation, it is more harmonious than that of Death, but at least technically.

[filmcoolstuff]

Pretty cool vocals. It almost sounds like you're trying to emulate Anders too much though. I guess if that's what naturally comes out, cool.

[blackened138]

@filmcoolstuff Thanks, man! Not trying to emulate Anders at all, haha. I'm interested in having my own sound... I'm actually surprised you think it sounds like him!

[filmcoolstuff]

@blackened138 It must be a subconscious influence then, which would be natural. It's good to aim for your own sound. It's not like it's dead on or anything, but there are definitely similar attributes, especially when it comes to how you choose to sing with the rythym, like what words you elongate, etc. And it also kind of sounds like him just range wise. Then again I can hear in flames influence with the rest of the music as well, which isn't a bad thing.

[bodom1376]

Incredible vocals man. I can't wait to hear more!

[blackened138]

@bodom1376 Thanks so much, dude! More coming soon :]

[Iskate2metal]

you really have something terrific here! I love almost ever aspect of the vocals in this song aside from the short burst(s) of cleans because I really dont enjoy the random cleans in songs like this but other than that killer band!

[blackened138]

@Iskate2metal I choose to use clean parts where I see fit. A lot of the time it depends on the words I'm saying in my lyrics. For the most part, there's a reason for why I make everything as it is. Not just "Oh I'm just gonna throw cleans in here randomly and growl this and there, done." Regardless, though, I'm glad you like us, man! Thank you for commenting!

[jeramiekoval]

the vocals echo to much

[blackened138]

@jeramiekoval Thanks for your feedback, dude. Our audio engineer will do a much better job when he mixes the final vocals for our EP.

[INFLAMES5274]

Sounds like classic Anders screaming but just a bit higher. I love it!!

[blackened138]

@INFLAMES5274 Thanks so much, man! Glad you're diggin it!

[TheFruityLoopFactory]

A little to much reverb in the vocals ;)

[blackened138]

@TheFruityLoopFactory Thanks for your feedback, man! Surely our producer/audio engineer will do a much better job than I at mixing and mastering.

[TheFruityLoopFactory]

@blackened138 Ohw.. what i forgot to say.. the res is aaaaaaaaaawesome! :)

[blackened138]

@TheFruityLoopFactory Thanks!!

[Slayerofthekreator]

sorry but the voice in clean and gutural is so "pussy"

[Loz8900]

I definitely can't wait for an album release from you guys. I'll definitely make time to go out to the store and buy that album and brag to everybody that I found a new badass band! Keep up the awesome work and don't let anything hold ya back!

[DeadtideMetal]

@Loz8900 Won't be in stores, but Itunes yes, will be out at some point during the summer =)

-ChromeCelica00

[Loz8900]

@DeadtideMetal Well I'm in luck cause I have an ipod lol. Doesn't matter to me how I buy it, just so long as i get it!

[blackened138]

@Loz8900 We'll make sure it's available to anyone on the web for purchase, no matter how you prefer to buy! :]

[Loz8900]

@blackened138 Good to hear! And at least with electronic downloads, I don't have to worry about if the album is sold out or not!

[blackened138]

@Loz8900 Very true! Good way to look at it... love the #positivity!

[metalvocalistwanted]

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[myheartinflames96]

sick screams, growls and cleans! how many years have you been training??! both instrumental and vocals are amazing this band is moving on!! i wish the best!

[micjaga]

pretty sic vocals man good job



[saifextacy]

reminds me the band named DEATH!

\m/

[blackened138]

@saifextacy I'm flattered, man! What an honor. Thanks for such an awesome comment!

[RicardoDSGordo]

You know, that was the first time i ever posted a comment on youtube... =p I follow the phil's channel on youtube since the "Metal Riff 5? 6? Who Cares!" video, like for 4 years and I think (and hope) u guys are gonna have as many success as your're talented. =) And beyond that i think its amazing u consider what ppl write in here, that proves how humble u guys are. Said that, I'm excited to hear the new recordings, and when u get famous please come play in Portugal =p Keep the good work!!!

[blackened138]

@RicardoDSGordo I am flattered that you made your first comment on one of my videos! And wow, that's a LONG time. Phil (Chrome) & I were just talking about that video the other day, haha.

We've had the honor of knowing many of you since the metal & metal riff community first began on YouTube back in 2006, and nothing means more than the fact that you're still supporting us and that we're still talking to one another!

[blackened138]

@RicardoDSGordo (continued-1) Some people we know were just starting high school back when we first started posting riff videos, and they're now starting college... that REALLY helps to put things in perspective.

You & everyone else who have taken the time to comment & support us are the reason we've pushed through these last few years without a band to finally be able to make some real songs as a real melodeath band. It just shows that unrelenting passion & hard work DO pay off eventually!

[blackened138]

@RicardoDSGordo (continued-2) Since I was 15 back around 2004 (I'm now 22), I can remember dying to be in a melodic death metal band. As you can see, if you don't live in Sweden or Finland, they're very hard to put together.

And again, we truly appreciate your feedback. Admittedly, we're n00bs at home recording and we are obsessed with studio-quality sound, so we need all the feedback we can get so that in the future when we record, things will go smoother and we can be more efficient!

[blackened138]

@RicardoDSGordo (continued-3) One of our biggest metal dreams is come over and play in Europe one day, and it would be sick to perform for you and meet you in person in Portugal! For now, take care, man, and now that you've started commenting, don't stop! We will always value your opinions and feedback. They're a huge help to us and they help us progress as individual musicians and as a band.

As always, stay metal!

[RicardoDSGordo]

I think the vocals are great, except for the "Let's take a trip to the adrenaline fields" , "We're breaking the binds of sleep" and the "We'll live through our dreams" parts. These three parts are lacking the right emotions and the right melody =p But still i think its almost "there". Sorry about the english ^^ Keep the good work

[blackened138]

@RicardoDSGordo I'm actually rerecording those parts right now! Should be a lot better this time around...

Thanks a lot for your feedback, man, and I'm glad you like the vocals. You speak English very well, by the way!

[Boeman91]

On your live vid the harsh vocals are better IMO

[blackened138]

@Boeman91 Possibly cause the mix was more refined. This version is almost a completely different song, lyrically and execution-wise. What did you like more about the live harsh vocals, man?

[Boeman91]

@blackened138 I just meant that a shorter reverb (as in your live vid) seems more fitting. At first I did not even notice the difference in both lyrics and execution.

It's good to hear you get a pro for mixing. A good mixdown can really make your song a lot better.

Good luck in the studio!

[blackened138]

@Boeman91 Got it. I appreciate your feedback! Thanks, man!

[Boeman91]

Too much reverb on the harsh vocals I think! Sounds nice btw;)

[blackened138]

@Boeman91 Thanks a lot, man! Promise the final won't have overpowering reverb. The most I would ever consider would be along the lines of Solution .45's "For Aeons Past" album for a nice, atmospheric feel. I rushed a mixdown for you guys so I slapped a decent preset on (it probably would have been great with some tweaking). I don't have a background in mixing... luckily a pro is going to be mixing and mastering everything for us, so I'll trust his judgment for that!

[DrigrX]

Are there two vocalists? One clean, one... I don't even know what to call it (not a bad thing)?

[blackened138]

@DrigrX Nope. I'm just one guy. :]

[imadey0utube]

will Stargazer Syndrome have vocals?

[ChromeCelica00]

@imadey0utube Absolutely, it's being worked on!

[blackened138]

@imadey0utube Just like Phil (ChromeCelica00) said, I'm working on them right now! I think you're really gonna like them, too!

[Wizarrdd]

Bad ass vox, can't wait to hear this track 100% polished and ready to go.

[blackened138]

@Wizarrdd Thank you, sir! Really appreciate the comment! Working hard at this moment to get all vocals done and ready for mixing!

[PlxDie]

a touch of Scar Symmetry and maybe Wintersun? Great job.

[blackened138]

@PlxDie "a touch of Scar Symmetry and maybe Wintersun? Great job."

Honored! Thanks for such a great comment! Really glad you're liking it!

[Saccrifix]

A litle too much echo in there, but I'm sure it'll sound much better once they're mixed and mastered :D either way, they sound pretty epic! :)

[blackened138]

@Saccrifix Yeah I wasn't trying to mess around with mixing it too much... just slapped on the reverb that sounded decent to get a listenable mix out ASAP to you guys so you could hear it! Really glad you liked it, dude. Can't wait to deliver the final product to ya ;]

[guruofpiano]

Awesome!! I enjoyed this very much. All the best and thumbs up. G.

[blackened138]

@guruofpiano So glad you enjoyed it. Best to you as well, man! Thanks so much for your support.

[Leichestein]

love the vocals \m/

[blackened138]

@Leichestein Thanks, dude! Really happy you like 'em! Can't wait til they're mixed and mastered!

[Leichestein]

@blackened138 yeah i can't wait to hear 'em!

[Slipknot3963]

Cleans are sick, Screams are epic any tips for a beginner vocalist?

[blackened138]

@Slipknot3963 Thanks so much, man! Well it depends on what sound/tone you're aiming for in each harsh vocals and clean vocals. Can you give me an example of some vocalists you really enjoy for cleans and harsh? Then I can explain the techniques necessary for their style.

[Stupidsquire]

i've listened to this vid like 10 times so far. its that good dude

[blackened138]

@Stupidsquire Wow! I'm flattered! Thanks, so much, man. Really happy you like it.

[Lovemetal629]

I'm with "Farhanbangladesh". The vocals are a little too loud, at least at this point. When the album actually comes out, try to blend the vocals in with the instruments of the song better as far as volume levels go. Turn the reverb down a little bit on the clean vocals, and you should be good to go. But, at the same time, it's just my opinion.

[blackened138]

@Lovemetal629 Hey, man. Like I just told Farhanbangladesh, it's only a rough mix to share with everyone. The vocals are purposely louder than the instruments to emphasize them and make them easy to hear for everyone. A few of the vocal tracks have been rerecorded to date, and it has yet to go through production. Deadtide will sit down together to mix the final tracks and make them perfect for you guys, so don't worry! And thanks for your feedback!

[Lovemetal629]

@blackened138 Oh ok. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Sounds fucking sick and fuck god fucking dammit motherfucker (I just love to say fuck, lol). I love your guy's material, keep on, um. Rockin' or shreddin'? I don't know what word to use =b

[blackened138]

@Lovemetal629 No problem, man.... don't want you to think I'm giving you sub-par vocals! haha.

Use all of the above words. They're all relevant! I'm super-glad you're likin our stuff! Keep it METAL, man!

[Farhanbangladesh]

nice... but the vocal track is way too loud!

[blackened138]

@Farhanbangladesh I did that purposely to emphasize the vocals since everyone's already heard the instrumentals. This isn't a final mix or anything. Thanks, though, man! Glad you like

[415System]

you sound just like SODOM!!!!!! AWSOME

[blackened138]

@415System Thanks, dude!! So glad you like it!

[aznboy5225]

DAMN thats siik

[blackened138]

@aznboy5225 Thanks so much, dude!

[Stupidsquire]

sounds alot like soilwork! (thats a good thing lol)

[blackened138]

@Stupidsquire Wow, man! I'm honored! Thanks so much

[Toxicstank345]

i like the clean vocals too

[blackened138]

@Toxicstank345 Thanks, dude!

[allformsofagony]

In terms of a constructive feedback, I would look into reducing the reverb and "separating" the voices (u guys might have already thought about it). This last one has to do with the pan of the tracks. 60% of each voice track in different sides should do it. Also, you guys should also look at the positioning of each instrument – i.e. u have to decide what do u want to put more or less emphasis at (guitars, drums or voice).

All in all, you're getting there.

Felipe

All Forms of Agony – Guitars

[blackened138]

@allformsofagony This was a light, temporary production so it would be acceptable to share with everyone. Thanks so much for the feedback, anyway, though--it's really going to help me when I mix it for real! So glad you like it, too... means a lot comin from you, Felipe!

[allformsofagony]

Awesome job, Mike! I think you've just nailed it, especially the clean vocals. Well, I'm no expert in clean vocals, but it sounds pretty good to me, especially @0:14. In that point I seem to disagree with most of the people here. But that kind of voice is EXTREMELY difficult to record, and I think you did a pretty good job.

[fallensalvation]

I agree with some of the other people just a little more work on the cleans and this will be well on its way... besides that you guys are badass and I can't wait to hear more of what you guys have to offer

[blackened138]

@fallensalvation Thanks for the feedback! Glad you're likin it!

Badassery is what we do. Looking forward to putting out more metal for ya!

[INFLAMES5274]

its great!!! just one word of advice. practice the cleans a bit more. theyre kinda shaky

[blackened138]

@INFLAMES5274 Thanks, man! It's not so much practice--it's more about getting the perfect take. I use absolutely no pitch correction (even Christian Alvestam's vocals are auto-tuned--and most other pros' vocals are)... I'd rather take the time to do it right without the help of technology. It takes a lot longer, but it's definitely something you can be super-proud of--especially for your first release!

Any parts in particular that sound noticeably shaky?

[INFLAMES5274]

@blackened138 definitely man. i know what you mean. keep it up!!

[Loz8900]

Sounds frickin awesome! Keep up the good work! =D

[blackened138]

@Loz8900 Thanks, dude! Will do

[Dinky0027]

Damn very fucking nice man hope to hear the rest of it soon :D

[blackened138]

@Dinky0027 Thanks so much, man! Long time no talk... glad to see you're still on here.

I'll be working on the stuff like a madman--doing everything I can for you guys and learning the hard way haha, but hopefully it won't be too painful from here-on in!

[shinderhizzle84]

The singing doesn't sound at all really on the same level as the screaming. Maybe try recording the singing in a separate track and adding different effects? You need to compress the fuck out of both shit--neither sounds "powerful enough". Try maybe throwing in some sort of limiter, too...you don't have to up the volume to make the vocals sound powerful--just lots of diaphragm usage during recording, as well as compression and some well-done EQing.

[shinderhizzle84]

@shinderhizzle84

Also try layering the vocals...it's not the easiest thing to do but if you do it correctly it REALLY helps. Just record two separate versions of the same track--IE record two separate tracks of you screaming and then another one singing the EXACT SAME WAY at the exact same times and shit so they match up perfectly...it's harder than it sounds, especially when trying to hold a long scream or something, but definitely worth it if done correctly.

[blackened138]

@shinderhizzle84 Hey, Mitch. Thanks for the feedback!

At parts there are up to 4 clean tracks simultaneously in this preview's mix. Luckily, I can recreate lines pitch-for-pitch pretty well. Back when we tried this the first time, Logan couldn't believe how close some of the waveforms of multiple tracks were to matching one another in shape and size.

I'll definitely keep in mind your other suggestions, too. They'll really help when I'm mixing for real. Thanks, again, man!

[TheMetalHeaD256]

yeah can't wait till this is mastered. the reason why it sounds thrown on top is because at this stage, it IS thrown on top. they haven't modded the vocal track yet so it mixes in.

sounds really good anyway. take some of the reverb out and lower the volume a bit and it should fit right in.

btw when y'all play this live, how are you gonna get that ensemble of Mikes singing in the background? are the guitarists gonna have to learn some vocals or are you gonna sacrifice that for life stuff?

[blackened138]

@TheMetalHeaD256 Yes, definitely. And thank you--glad you like.

Really appreciate the feedback, dude. This will help a lot when I'm mixing for real.

I want Phil to do clean harmonies for me, but he's been reluctant so far. The rest of the stuff will depend on what I'm feeling live. I'm very spontaneous live and make decisions to improvise right on the spot. Some stuff will probably be planned for the best listener experience, but others may be done based on how my voice is feeling that day.

[TheMetalHeaD256]

@blackened138 ah, ok. can't wait till this stuff really takes off. so have you gotten any lyrics ready for Chronolapse and Stargazer Syndrome?

[spawnsc]

very cool but the vocals are to upfront and can't hear the rest of the band.

[blackened138]

@spawnsc I did it purposely so you have no trouble hearing them in the preview! I only did a few things to prepare this to share with you guys--the real production is still ahead. Thanks, though, and really appreciate your feedback. It will help me when I'm mixing for real!

[Fistler01]

Nice riffs very sick man thumbs up^^

[blackened138]

@Fistler01 Thanks, Fistler!

[ADeadlierSnake]

i like the growls much better than the clean vocals. i didnt really like the clean vocals much at all. just trying to give feedback. i cant do much in the way of constructed criticism though cause idk anything about singing or screaming.

[blackened138]

@ADeadlierSnake Thanks, haha. I appreciate your feedback, regardless of your experience. What don't you like about the cleans?

[ADeadlierSnake]

@blackened138 I think a lot of it is the reverb, like someone else mentioned. Even without it thought I just think the cleans sound a bit.... viking/folk metal-ish? They just didnt really seem to fit

[makemebad35]

this is awesome! I can't wait to hear this puppy out of production!

[blackened138]

@makemebad35 Thanks, dude! Really appreciate you checkin it out and leavin some feedback!

Hopefully all will go smoothly with production and we'll have these bad boys out soon!

[Kamilos55]

great man!

[nighttwolf67]

Pretty sick, but a bit of constructive criticism, I wouldn't use too much reverb on the vocals bc it can take from that "connected with the song" kinda sound, and make it sound like its thrown on top. Still diggin though

[blackened138]

@nighttwolf67 Thanks! Appreciate it! I threw the closest reverb I could for a quick "produced" sound so I could upload this for you guys! It will be totally refined when we move into the production phase.

[nighttwolf67]

@blackened138 thats cool, im really looking forward to yalls stuff being finished and yall getting out for shows. Let me know when you get through to Tennessee, I'll put together a sick Melodic death emtal show with my band and some others.

[blackened138]

@nighttwolf67 Great to hear! We are, too! We just want to play shows haha, but we're doing everything we can to do all this recording ourselves. Once we're done, though, we'll definitely be playing shows... and hopefully one day in Tennessee, too! We'd love to share the stage with your band and whomever else you know

[SynysterMaggot]

@blackened138 Yeah agreed, reverb isn't my preferred sound. I would stay away from it a bit. Otherwise it sounds great.... Will that screamer be throwing in any growls as well as the high pitched grunts?

[blackened138]

@SynysterMaggot Those are growls haha. Grunts are deeper. Think Scar Symmetry.

[blackened138]

@SynysterMaggot And yes, there are some death grunts later in the song... you'll hear them when it's finished!

[SynysterMaggot]

@blackened138 Well I like what I'm hearing so far. Just as far as band morals go, be like suicide silence. If the next song you write isn't completely better than the last, then don't even use it. Same thing with albums. I'm excited to hear more!

[themegagod1]

first,

and very metal!!!

keep the brutality coming.

[blackened138]

@themegagod1 Thanks! You got it! More brutality on the way!