Aldermen debate RidleyArrest (Nashua, New Hampshire)

[debifeb]

hey dave more money means more cops,,,,,

[TangoDelta29]

this is cool



[neognosis2012]

The police liaison didn't seem too concerned about doing her job. And that ahole Douche Bag that JUST HAD TO make it known he wasn't interested in the concerns of a citizen? Holy fraktard.

[Armedlegally]

Did he really say " I'm not interested" I'm going to say this if he don't care that rights were violated and he don't care to listen to it then why is he there? Why does he waste tax payer's money and air and space? This guy really makes me wonder about our officials. I'm very sadden to hear this! Keep up the great work Dave.

[Coffeeandasmoke]

Am running just as fast as I can to meet or exceed what you guys are already doing. ;-) Love it, freakin love it.

[TheGrayman1234]

"I am not interested in the Chief's response" SERIOUSLY?!?! So you don't care if every protestor and/or reporter was forced away from any political rally against the direction given by the first amendment.

[Dewdaahman]

try this.. go to Dunn and Bradstreet and type in under "search" your local police Department and you'll find what I found.. I typed in my local Police Department and the first sentence on the page was/is Bradford Police Department is a private company.. it further states that it falls under the (Clinton, Bubba, not Billery) Police Protection Act.. hmmmmm, I never got the memo, did you..? ask your PD who they work for, it ain't you.. thx Dave..

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

@Dewdaahman So NH already has private police? Not surprised. But isn't that what propertarians want?

[Dewdaahman]

@juliaisafilmbuff123 I'm of the thought that the Libaterians want as little regulation as possible, but then that would mean ppl would need to be responsible.. the Free State Project, from what I understand, wants to get voted 100% into the NH House/Senate and succeed from the Union.. I'm not in favor of that either.. my idea is to arrest the traitors in the seats of gov't and begin adhearin' to the Constitution FOR the United States.. they changed that to Constitution OF the United States..

[dasdeck]

@juliaisafilmbuff123 not in if the conditions around it are still twisted. inside a corrupted environment, a private police has no benefit whatsoever. it may very well be harmful, as a lot of people already know. it doe not make much sense if the police is private but they have to follow (as they are state regulated) laws that are totalitarian (for example).

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

@dasdeck I agree in a way. The fallacy in their reasoning comes from the notion that private police wouldn't be as bad as state police, because private police would have more "liability", though the employer of private police could just as easily hire a legal team to beat any lawsuits the private police might be faced with.

[dasdeck]

@juliaisafilmbuff123 would YOU pay a police company when it would do this? some people might, most would go elsewhere.,nobody would be forced into it like now.you seem to have not spent much time studying libertarian thought . you think too much inside the current framework. there would be terrible problems with some libertarian proposals implemented into the current system. like private prions who get payed by force / taxes. it defies the whole purpose, free market gets blamed for state force

[dasdeck]

@dasdeck i'm not sure about prisons thought they might really be private already. still, they enforce government's corrupt monopoly law. backwater getting payed by state to shoot people in iraq would be a much better example of fake privatization. everything that is still getting tax money in any way is not privatized in a libertarian sense, everything that is regulated by force is not privatized. (except the force is contractually agreed upon that is). cheer! :)

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

@dasdeck I'm against all police, whether "public" or "private". Police are simply thugs paid to commit acts of violence against others. Why does it matter who is funding them or who they are working for? A "voluntary" state seems like it would eventually become like the state we have now, since the rich would just pay to have control over the state and would bring back the same framework to make it easier for them to control others.

[CurtHowland]

@juliaisafilmbuff123 "since the rich would just pay to have control over the state"

So long as there is an institution of coercion, that is exactly what will happen, since that is what has always happened.

Abolish that institution, make it "wrong" for everyone to initiate force, and the power will not be there to be corrupting to "the rich".

[CurtHowland]

@juliaisafilmbuff123 "though the employer of private police could just as easily hire a legal team"

There is a phrase you are obviously not acquainted with: Sovereign Immunity.

An agent of the state, when performing their "duty", is not liable for their actions. That's why a soldier is not a murderer, or a cop that "accidentally" shoots the wrong person has not committed negligent manslaughter, or a cop driving 100mph is not "speeding".

Private security have no such limited liability.

[juliaisafilmbuff123]

Let's get one thing straight:

Massachusetts has Lawrence.

CT has Bridgeport.

NJ has Newark.

NH has Nashua.

Yup.

[antigovlivefree]

well now you know witch clowns to vote out

[curtmorehouse]

What kind of Douche Bag raises his hand to say "I'm not interested in what the cheif has to say" ?

[Coffeeandasmoke]

@curtmorehouse A confirmed collectivist. Call him commie or nazi, it's all the same... he will kill at the drop of a hat.

[CurtHowland]

@curtmorehouse "What kind of Douche Bag..."

From the look of the back of his head, the "getting seriously fat on tax money" kind.

[slewofdamascus]

You should definitely bring a lawsuit against the city, Mr. Ridley. Charlie Veitch, a well known activist from England is suing Toronto for $350k, justifiably (imo), for a similar over-stepping of bounds during the G20. There are many people, like Bill Thornton, who are actively using common law to achieve a measure of justice. What would be better than placing liens on the cops who groped and imprisoned you? There are many pro se advocates who are generally open to consultations, etc. Sue.

[slewofdamascus]

That is shameful - I'm not sure why you love Nashua so much but based on what I witnessed, I wouldn't spend 5 minutes there.

If it wasn't for the one person on that board who demonstrated decency and empathy you'd have nothing but a herd of worthless nobodies pretending to be important. A liaison who doesn't liaise? Another rep who prefers to remain defiantly ignorant? No wonder the police are out of control.

Then there are the people of Nashua who can't be bothered to water Liberty's tree

[thanson77]

@slewofdamascus

I've been doing business in Nashua for year. Personally I feel that Nashua is a shithole.

[slewofdamascus]

@thanson77 that's good to know, it probably doesn't have to be that way or remain that way, maybe

nashua-ites should consider becoming more actively involved or, at least, electing representatives who are somewhat responsive to legitimate criticism? Just a thought (smile).

[ArrestAJudgeKit]

Yeah they gave you "good advice." The same "good advice" which they give to every single mindless sheep: Follow the rules to our crooked system! Think out of the box sheep! File a criminal compliant with the sheriff's department for Section 643:1 Official Oppression.