Chinese Building FIre Skyscraper

[MadBasstid]

the title is misleading, I thought this was going to be footage of a Bejing skyscraper not 9/11 conspiracy nonsense, lol.

[NewWorldOrderNow1]

It is the same thing when people talk about their favorite sports team."we" lost the game today. You have nothing to do with the team. We own you. Do not think for yourself and resist us by spreading the truth about 9/11.

[benpg]

Why is it that all of you conspiracy nuts have a different view of who committed 9/11? I knew a guy who didn't want to pay his taxes, he said it was the US government. I knew of another guy who was a pedophile and wanted his name removed from a US government web page, so he was spouting all of the "down with the US" crap. The anti semites blame the jews. The hippies and the socialists blame the corporations. The french blame lizard reptiles from mars. Whats your story?

[NewWorldOrderNow1]

We have done such an outstanding job of brainwashing the public into believing that this "country" is theirs. They say "we" are at war. The only ones of you who are actually at "war" are the soldiers we send over there to die, so we can destroy and rebuild with billions of dollars worth of contracts.

[verbalmilitia]

Jimmy who's ignorant? WTC 7 was not hit by a plane and the fire admittedly was not caused by jet fuel, do some research before you speak dude.

[jimmym412]

You are the most ignorant person I have ever met. First off the CCTV fire was caused by fireworks and not jet fuel. Also, you ignorantly argued to crash a plane into the CCTV building, I hope you realize that there is something called architecture and not all buildings have the same design. Almost every building over 10 stories has a central support system where there are one or more central columns that bear the load. Rather than designing the WTC to the architectural norm......

[golcynski]

@jimmym412 Just what is Jet Fuel, its KEROSENE, your grill or heater using kerosene doesn't melt does it. If anything WTC was overengineered because it was the pride of our country. WTC did have STRONG Central Columns, they bared 50% of the weight, these massive steel beems were 3x2feet with walls 2inches thick. Now if you ask me where did all the stell go, why did it crumble at speed of gravity. If anything I'd expect the floors to fall but central structure to stand, educate yourself first

[benpg]

Jet fuel is not standard kerosene. It's made from kerosene but standard kerosene is refined a fraction of what high octane jet fuel is, you dolt. Any explosion caused by a large projectile traveling at 650 miles per hour, filled with highly explosive jet fuel is going to have dramatically different results than an office fire. Now go back to your Alex Jones webpage or whatever nut you follow and fill your head with more non sense.

"wtc was overengineerd" You just made that up. Pure bull.

[golcynski]

@benpg Just when you lack sufficient argument, you start calling people names. An open air hydrocarbon fire will not get over 1200 F.  Once you see black smoke coming out of building it means fire is starving fox oxygen.

you're right wtc the pride of New York was underengineered, under-budgeted, cheap chinese toy

If anything buildings much like cars, back in 70's were build like tanks, because we didn't have elaborate computer models of structures, we just used lots of metal and concrete.

[golcynski]

@benpg I can't say that I just purely believe they weren't brought down by Jet Planes alone, I have big doubts, but when I look at WTC 7 collapse, that is controlled implosion. True it was hit by some debris but so were other buildings more adjacent to WTC 1 2, that suffered much more damage yet remained standing. Its a fact that WTC 7 fell down as if it lost all support withing one second, as if it just turned to dry sand and puff, down it went. It was 50 stories of concrete and steel too.

[jimmym412]

Minoru Yamasaki designed his buildings with an exoskeleton style support system. This allowed for more office space but it made the frame of the building bear all the load. This is what allowed the building to buckle in on itself unlike other buildings like the CCTV building would. This is why architects design buildings with central support systems. I suggest you check you facts and study a bit of architecture before you start making ridiculous claims. Stop making up conspiracy theories.

[golcynski]

@jimmym412 You've got to be an idiot to think that WTC had no central core.

[ostapslobodian]

@golcynski

I'm glad to see there are others with a clear view of things like you.

Wish there where more with their heads on straight like you and I.

[MIKCURIE]

The Bejing building did not have the WTC fall on it

[verbalmilitia]

@MIKCURIE Funny, all the Buildings in the WTC Complex that DID HAVE WTC 1 & 2 fall directly on top of them DID NOT COLLAPSE. While WTC 7 that was across the street and sustained very little and NO STRUCTURAL DAMAGE from the falling WTC's (That was built NOTHING LIKE 1 & 2 AND WAS THE TERRORISM BUNKER FOR NYC) fell like a house of cards. How people can make such comments on things they obviously have not researched and know nothing about is beyond me.

VERBALMILITIA

marc27

[MIKCURIE]

@verbalmilitia Sorry.....but being from Canada i have little reason to fear my own Govt.....the last truly terroristic act in Canada was in the early 70's and the FLQ crisis in Quebec

[beachboy504123]

Id like to hear the reason for this movie being made i lost a crew in the WTC you asshole

[golcynski]

I'm the asshole? how closed minded are you. I posted this video due to respect of innocent lives lost at WTC. I am trying to get more answers, have you read the NIST report, it gives more questions than answers. The fires in Chinese building engulfed entire construction, it all was a big fireball, yet not even one floor collapsed. Lets all be nice to each other and what we need is another investigation. Thank YOU

[rctube1958]

There are several videos of skyscrapers building burning out of control much worse than any of WTC. Several years ago in Philadelphia, Las Vegas, and more recently in Spain. No collapse, no structural failure, just a badly burned building. Of course 9/11 & WTC collapse was an inside job. But people cannot bring themselves to see it. The truth is too ugly.

[taledarkside]

@rctube1958

when did the 911 collapse?

[rctube1958]

Also check out the story from 2009, "Crashed Iranian airliner ." A large passenger jet crashed. Compare the pictures of the debris to what the Pentagon lawn looked like on 9/11. What's missing on 9/11? Everything: luggage strewn about, clothes scattered, large engine parts, human body parts. Hell, with the Iranian crash, there's even recognizable parts of a large passenger plane.

Most people can't handle the truth.

[taledarkside]

@golcynski

so you calling firefighters liars now? I feel bad for beachboy. Him being a fighterfighter and losing his buddies on 9/11.

oh thats right, the truth movement suggests the fire fighters knew about the explosions, so it was their fault for going back in the building.

[golcynski]

@taledarkside Dude what are you smoking. The firefighters are the bravest souls we know. Don't put words in my mouth. Not only they got screwed on 911, but also after 911 by our government denying them benefits and coverage. Many are dying now due to toxic exposure at ground zero, but you wouldn't know that since any questioning of establishment is somehow disrespectful to 911 victims. I can't fathom your perverted view on this issue.

[taledarkside]

@golcynski

Your part of the organization that wants to have another investigation. So things they said about firefighters. "they were aware of explosions", "they lied in interviews" "they are paid by the government"

And also, there were no victims on 9/11 because Loose Change said they didn't exist.

And you told the fire fighter that he's close minded.

[mainstreetmarshall]

Lame effort. This chinese building didnt collapse cause it was new and it was built to withstand earthquakes. They get them overthere...and the building was built like a pyramid. It wasnt straight up and down like the WTC...so get a life you twit. Gees, with the mentality of the tards that post this crap, its no wonder the rest of the world is kicking our asses.

[golcynski]

That is all you can say the building was like a pyramid, that is why it didn't fell, and then you have to call all of "us" who want another real investigation of why the buildings collapsed. I don't know what happened for sure, but sure as hell three huge buildings don't fall down completely to the ground in less than 10 seconds, its impossible.

[taledarkside]

@golcynski

WTC never fell to the ground in less than 10 seconds. Maybe if you people got that right in the first place you would stop drink coolaid from richard gage.

[golcynski]

@taledarkside Oh sorry it was 10.8 seconds, so lets see.

WTC 1, 2 fall down same way, freak accident 1&2, both hit by plane, fire on top floors, 1 million tons of concrete disintegrates (that is enough concrete to build 3ft wide sidewalk from NYC to Europe), along with 400k tons of steel

WTC 7 falls down, no plane, no plum of smoke - freak accident 3

No plane debris for other planes freak accident 4&5

Bin laden was a CIA agent -fact

How much money did you get from the bailout package.....

[taledarkside]

@golcynski

Looks like your mistaken again. WTC took more than 15 seconds. At most 20 seconds. You can watch several videos of the WTC collapsing across the hudson river and see the building still collapsing way past the 10 second mark

[jerseycitybob]

dude are you an asshole? never mind you already answered that with this video....

[MacraStraba]

This sucks. Give me the video of the burning Chinese building. I don't give a damn about the WTC.

[frankiebones01]

While the Bejing fire proves 9-11 a little more, did you not already know? I mean you would have to be slightly retarded if you had to wait until this happened in 2009 to think, "Hey maybe BUILDING 7 was IMPLODED".

[john4jet]

WTC Buildings old.

Chinese Skyscraper new, still under construction.

Problem solved.

I find it so funny that all these conspiracy nuts run around saying Bush is a complete idiot, but yet at the same time he was smart enough to be involved in and keep a 9/11 secret.

The only ones who are complete idiots are those that continue to spout crap because they have nothing better to do in there boring pathetic lives.

[golcynski]

Chinese products Crap,

American Products Good,

Problem solved,

You'd say that Chinese produce higher quality good than US.

Bush is smarter than everyone gives him credit, maybe he pretends to be an idiot, so that his constant "bad" decisions are accepted because we just have a stupid ruler. How can someone make a bad decision after bad, by just being stupid. It takes skill constantly pass laws that benefit the rich while taking from you

[unclesamsnephew666]

does anyone else see a problem with comparing buildings not hit by airplanes with building hit by airplanes?

truthtards: earning their nickname every day of their miserably stupid and worthless lives

[golcynski]

Yes we do and we wish the Arabs had flown an airplane into a chinese building so we would see, yet we see no arabs.

Maybe someone could spare few millions and fly an airplane into the burned chinese building, putting all the speculation to rest.

Yet we argue, because we are told WTC fell due to fires.

OH and there is that WTC 7 that FELL DOWN ONLY DUE TO FIRE, which you couldn't even see except for couple of floors, yet the damage from fire was equal across all floors

watch?v=V0GHVEKrhng

[unclesamsnephew666]

"we wish the Arabs had flown an airplane into a chinese building" - see how bad truthers want their psychotic theory to be true? this asshole WISHES for this to happen so he can be right.

"fly an airplane into the burned chinese building" - in case you missed it, the airplanes hit the buildings on 9/11, then they burned. you truthtards can't even get this right.

"WTC 7 that FELL DOWN ONLY DUE TO FIRE" - wrong. there's a 14-20 story gouge from debris from the tower collapse.

[golcynski]

There we go again, kill the messenger never mind the message.

I meant for Arabs to fly it into chinese building after it was burned down, into the rubble.

In case you MISSED it No Airplane hit WTC 7. Many of you believing in official story don't even know WTC7 fell down.

What about WTC buildings in direct vicinity, there were some with 50% of the buildings missing yet they remained standing.

What about Gov telling the rescuers the AIR is safe, 1000's of people have health problems

[unclesamsnephew666]

"kill the messenger" don't whine

"I meant for Arabs to fly it into chinese building after it was burned down, into the rubble." - you mean you meant to be dumber than you were?

"No Airplane hit WTC 7" - in case you missed it, 7 was severely damaged from debris. or is this fireman "in on it" too?

watch?v=nRwWO01opE8

explain THAT.

"What about WTC buildings in direct vicinity" - different buildings, different locations, different size, different damage. you expect same result? how DUMB.

[unclesamsnephew666]

"which you couldn't even see except for couple of floors" - you need to do more research. MUCH more research. if you think you can only see a couple of floors from WTC7 on 9/11, you haven't seen 1/100th of the information out there

no wonder you're wrong about everything. you're completely ignorant of the basic facts.

watch?v=V0GHVEKrhng - NIST says free fall for less than 3 seconds. this contradicts truther claims of total free fall, which isn't even close to true. never was. big deal.

[golcynski]

ok show me 99+ of the info I am missing

I am wrong on everything - You start sounding like my wife

I'll watch the clip, and ask you to watch this one:

watch?v=Vz43hcKYBm4&feature=re­lated

[unclesamsnephew666]

"ok show me 99+ of the info I am missing" - do your own work. just stop ignoring what hurts your feeeeeeeeelings.

"I am wrong on everything" - when it comes to 9/11 truthtard claims you are

NIST admitted to a brief period (2-3 sec) of free fall. truthers claim free fall,period. they are wrong. admit it.

[golcynski]

I did my own work, for 3 years friend of mine gave me a DVD with Loose Change 911, I didn't watch it, I though this is just some stupid stuff, people and their stupid conspiracies. I have seen maybe a total of 50 hours of video on 911. The view is in the eye of beholder, if your belief is what makes you happy so be it.

They lie to us on all fronts, Obama promises to end illegal war, once in office nothing happens, promises of transparency, vanish, when they signed stimulus for their friends

[unclesamsnephew666]

did you ever watch loose change? it's so full of shit it isn't funny.

[golcynski]

about free fall, for building to achieve absolute freefal, there would have to be a total dismemberment of all structure, even the non load bearing walls. Maybe this is what gave the building a little lag behind free fall, then the main sequence is true freefall for few seconds and at the end when the building is hitting the ground its slowing down a little.

I'd agree there were no explosives or cutting charges if the building took at least 2x the time, or there were some major parts LEFT

[unclesamsnephew666]

"I'd agree there were no explosives or cutting charges if the building took at least 2x the time"

2X what time? you take no position and then state 2x "the time"

1. east penthouse collapses

2. 5 second pause

3. rest of building collapses

no free fall speed. not even close.

[escapee78]

watch?v=V0GHVEKrhng ( Yes NIST admitted Freefall )

[unclesamsnephew666]

"Yes NIST admitted Freefall"

I know they did. for 2.25 sec of the 16 second collapse. and?

let me guess, what truthers really meant all along when they said "free fall" and then "near free fall" about WTC7 AND the towers was "2.25 sec of free fall out of the 16 second collapse at WTC7"

I'm sure that's what they really meant.

[escapee78]

Where does the 16 sec comes from? watch the video, Im no truther, I'm a entrepreneur. I 'm always looking for business opportunity if this blowtorch thing can demolish a building the way explosives do in a low cost way.

[unclesamsnephew666]

this video...

watch?v=1bjrAJVp4ds

...plus this video...

watch?v=CLHwvwJCmgk

...tells me WTC7 took more than double what free fall speed is (about 15-16 sec., free fall is 6.5)

How do you see otherwise?

[escapee78]

That could also mean the penthouse was imploded first. Shortly after the penthouse was blown off. The rest of the core building collapsed into its footprint in free fall speed and resistance free. RESISTANCE FREE. This is impossible without demolition.

Compilation of Buildings Demolition -

watch?v=-1qgx95SFds

watch?v=cRaNwPGcQcM

[unclesamsnephew666]

"Shortly after the penthouse was blown off."

it collapsed down into the building.

"The rest of the core building collapsed into its footprint"

no it didn't

"in free fall speed"

only if you count part of the building as not part of the building. obviously there was activity inside the facade we can't see.

reword it all you like, alter the physical reality that the penthouse wasn't actually part of the building all you want. the fact is, WTC7 did not fall at or "near" free fall speed.

[escapee78]

NIST literally admitted freefall on the video i shared with . You refused to accept that as admittance and instead chose to make up stuff yourself..

[unclesamsnephew666]

2.25 seconds out of the 16 second collapse. I asked you what about it?

and what am I making up? explain.

[unclesamsnephew666]

do you deny that the collapse took approx. 15 seconds?

have you talked yourself into the idea that not counting the penthouse is legitimate?

[escapee78]

The key is It took less than 7 seconds for the core building to fall. 40+ storey high of office buidling collapsed downward in a resistance free manner. Why would you focus on the damn penthouse ?

[unclesamsnephew666]

Q. do you deny that the collapse took approx. 15 seconds?

A. "The key is It took less than 7 seconds for the core building to fall."

you're just never going to admit the reality that the collapse took approx. 15-16 seconds, are you?

"the core building" -- is that an industry term? or are you making stuff up now?

"Why would you focus on the damn penthouse ?"

why would I focus on the very fact that proves the theory of freefall wrong? yeah, that's a question.

[escapee78]

NIST has admitted WTC freefall. So all your arguments are invalid

watch?v=V0GHVEKrhng

watch?v=XtKLtUiww80

watch?v=Vz43hcKYBm4

Stop arguing on points that are proven invalid.

[unclesamsnephew666]

"NIST has admitted WTC freefal"

for 2.25 seconds out of the 15-16 collapse. do you believe that means that same thing as "WTC7 fell at freefall speed"?

is that what you've decided to believe, along with mininukes?

[escapee78]

So you disagree with NIST admittance of free fall collapse? We need a new independent investigation to stop all this time wasting nonsensical debate.. I'm taking a break :P

[unclesamsnephew666]

"So you disagree with NIST admittance of free fall collapse?"

no, when did I say that?

the question is do you believe"

"WTC7 collapsed at free fall speed"

means the same thing as

"of the 15-16 second collapse, there was 2.25 seconds of free fall" ?

or are you back to making believe the part of the building known as the east penthouse is not part of the building?

[escapee78]

Hello m back, Watch this Video you would probably understand...

watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw

firefightersfor911truth(dot)or­g

You should be alerted if you're not another .....

[unclesamsnephew666]

"Hello m back"

great. are you going to answer these...

when did I say that? (that I disagree with NIST)

...and...

do you believe "WTC7 collapsed at free fall speed" means the same thing as "of the 15-16 second collapse at WTC7, there was 2.25 seconds of free fall" ?

answer those while I check out the video and link you sent, ok?

[escapee78]

BTW, Search for "nuclear demolition" in google if you are curious about more Truther "BS".

[unclesamsnephew666]

Search for "nuclear demolition"

HA! HA! mini-nuke kooks!

[escapee78]

YAAA Mninnuke Kooks .. That's why we need a new independent investigation to stop all these crazy truthers spilling their craps... 670 Engineers/architects , 400+ professors, 180 senior military officals and 200+ pilots demanded it.

[escapee78]

Anyway, I'm always looking for business opportunity. If i'm proven wrong that WTC 7 collapse was not done by demolition. Then we are witnessing the greatest business opportunity ever present in the history of mankind. Free fall global collapse of building with blowtorch.

[unclesamsnephew666]

"Anyway, I'm always looking for business opportunity"

NIST and scientists/engineers who know a lot more about htis than you or I say the fire was by far the main culprit at 7. so you have been proven wrong. now you should invest every dime you have into that business proposition and see how it goes. start immediately. let us know of your progress. best of luck.

[escapee78]

NIST engineers are not aware of the presence of molten steel and nano-thermite. That doesn't make then any better than me or Richard GAGE or Steven Jones or The Danish expert. So i have not been proven wrong, It only proved that you have high suggestibility (lower IQ?) to BS. I would start my business proposition when a new independent investigation validates the use of blowtorch for building demolition.

[unclesamsnephew666]

224,500 members of the ASCE and AIA plus the MIT and JPL guys who worked on NIST vs. Steven "Jesus Visited America" Jones, Richard "Cardboard Boxes" Gage and company...and **I** have the high suggestibility to BS?

that's funny. that's really funny.

[escapee78]

Sad to say that MIT Engineer Jeff king Says WTC was demolished. I'm pretty sure a large percentage of members do not buy into the official BS.

watch?v=wCLHL5iToJ8

[unclesamsnephew666]

"Yes NIST admitted Freefall"

I know. what about it?

[LJARSONBECK]

UNCLEsammephew666- GOSH YOU SURE ARE RADICAL!! SO TELL ME- if you are a real American Patriot and you believe in justice then why stand in the way of a publicly televised trial like they had on Watergate or as the broadcast over the Titanic?? Do the family members of victims not deserve closure. Do the 46%+ NYC not deserve answers.

Do you find it fair that Bush and Cheney were able to testify together behind closed doors not under oath and not recorded. A real American would be outraged!

[unclesamsnephew666]

"if you are a real American Patriot..." - I never said I was whatever that means. but set up the straw man anyway. that's one the truthtard's top skills.

Watergate wasn't a trial. it was a hearing. just like the commission.

no idea what you mean about the Titanic.

"Do you find it fair that Bush and Cheney..."

fair? not sure how fairness enters into the equation.

the ideal would be open and under oath, of course. but reality often trumps the ideal.

[LJARSONBECK]

Sorry about my misnomer about Water Gate- I simply meant it publicly got o the gist of the country's political problem.

As for Titanic- 1522 (1/2 of the WTC victims) people were killed people wanted to know why and no stone was left unturned no quarter given and no question left unanswered.

As for reality vs ideal- it is what we make it. I'm getting to the age where I want to live in Mayberry or Hooterville. How badly do want to return to our better times.

[unclesamsnephew666]

there was a trial about the titanic?

"As for reality vs ideal- it is what we make it."

does that mean something?

"I'm getting to the age where I want to live in Mayberry or Hooterville. How badly do want to return to our better times"

same here, but the reality the islamists, our own politicians (both parties) and our own population's behavior (all of us included) makes that very difficult.

what did you mean by "GOSH YOU SURE ARE RADICAL"?

[golcynski]

Dude there is something wrong with you, you do seem Radical. I think it is you who lives in Fairly land.

Keep drinking Hormone injected milk, FDA says its good (its all just a conspiracy theory that rBGH is bad for humans and animals)

No conspiracy theory is true, even when you have evidence, wait, did I say Evidence, then with Evidence it can no longer be a theory, it becomes a possibility, but FOX news says we are crazy, Bush cares as much about you dying as you care about me.

[unclesamsnephew666]

yes, I am radically antii-stupid.

I'm also radically anti-assumptionist, which seems to be your specialty. you're so stupid you think anyone who disagrees with you on one point disagrees with you on all points.

I have 8-year old nephews who laugh at that kind of idiocy.

btw, I drink soy milk and I am not a fan of GW Bush.

do you get a kick out of being wrong? you must, since you do it all the time.

[golcynski]

Well, please stop personal attacks.

Soy is not a health food - look it up. most of US soy is also Genetically Modified - am I wrong again

I am happy you're not a fan of Bush, are you a fan of Obama?

And BTW I hold engineering degree and have studied Newtonian to Quantum physics

I simply start to stop caring about people in this country, all I get is a slap in the face and ridicule, I think I'll join the elites to get every dollar out of average joe and think of people as lesser beings

[unclesamsnephew666]

"I am happy you're not a fan of Bush, are you a fan of Obama?"

too soon to say. we'll see, but it doesn't look good.

[unclesamsnephew666]

golcynski, I have a question for you.

what do you think happened on 9/11 at the WTC7 between larry s. saying the words "pull it" to the fire commander and the building collapsing? fill in the blanks for me.

[golcynski]

I don't know but I'd say they made sure building was evacuated, - this was on camera lets not forget

Has he explained himself why he said it?

What I think would be just a theory and I don't like just theories.

[unclesamsnephew666]

"I don't know but I'd say they made sure building was evacuated, - this was on camera lets not forget"

well, at least you had the courage to say you don't know. you'd be floored at the number of evasive bullshit non-answers I get when I ask that.

"Has he explained himself why he said it?"

I believe he said he meant pull the firemen out of the area and the fire chief backed him up.

"What I think would be just a theory and I don't like just theories."

isn't inside job a theory?

[golcynski]

Don't worry, LJARSONBECK,

Unclesamsnephew666 listens to bush: You're either with us or with the terorirsts.

Yep, if our country makes a mistake we should stand behind it as citizens. Yes I agree - NOT,

I'd listen to RON PAUL, if we make a mistake, we should not stand behind our leaders, we should correct the mistake, but when leaders benefit they skew the public perception. Normally people hate war but if you tell them they are being attacked, then its easy to drag them along.

[unclesamsnephew666]

"I'd listen to RON PAUL"

then why don't you listen to him when he says 9/11 truthers are wrong?

oh, right. you love being wrong.

[golcynski]

We don't know what RON Paul thinks, we know what he says. I also know that any high ranking politician will commit political suicide is he says it was an inside job. (I hope you don't label my thinking here as another conspiracy theory)

He does agree on one thing, we need a real investigation. And I always hear him talking that you shouldn't trust everything government says.

About 911 it doesn't seem physically possible that buildings would collapse so rapidly.

[unclesamsnephew666]

"We don't know what RON Paul thinks, we know what he says."

he's hardly a typical pol and he speaks his mind. he doesn't believe inside job.

do you have a clip of him asking for a new investigation? not saying he hasn't said it, but I haven't heard it.

"About 911 it doesn't seem physically possible that buildings would collapse so rapidly."

don't tell me you still believe in free fall speed or "near" free fall speed (whatever that means!)

[horrabilly]

this video is comparing apples to oranges.

The beijing building (like the bottom of the madrid towers) was a TRADiTIONAL skyscraper design. Where it used steel beams reinforced in concrete pillars. So when it burned it remained standing.

WTC 7 (and wtc1 and 2) were open floor plan designs. They did not have even spaced support columns, and the steel trusses only had a spray on fireproofing good for an hour.

a good analogy would be the top of the madrid towers. Steel framed collapsed

[garycalgary]

i still fail to understand if the WTC was collapsed deliberately what reason there was even with all the conspiracy vids i have seen

much like princess diana and marilyn monroe the debate rages on and on

and on and on

and on

[kaferere]

macandrew, still spouting the B.S. I see. According to macandrew the twin towers were "hollow" LOL, and the office supply A4 paper was the reason for the fires and subsequent "collapse" LOL (you know, the paper that was everywhere and clearly not even scorched) And (wait for this) The Bejing hotel was just a "surface" fire! You don't have to wait for people to laugh at you macandrew, the whole world's laughing at you now sonny.

[Yardo1075]

I dont have to, I know the answer to the question.

[Yardo1075]

Soulfree- tell us all what happens to a steel beam when it is subjected to 1500 degrees F for a period of one hour.....Or what happens to a pre-tensioned concrete post when it collapses due to tension member failure?

[Barbaricfellow]

Great vid.

Quick,to the point ,AND ministry :)

5*

[Yardo1075]

You conspiracy theory idiots need to learn some things about building construction, physics, chemistry, and metallurgy. Once you have a well developed knowledge of these 4 topics, you will realize how stupid you truly are.

[golcynski]

First of all Idiot a theory is just that a theory, without any facts. Once you have a fact its a probability but you don't know the difference between probability and theory, all this just must be a conspiracy theory.

Don't worry Obama really cares about you, that is why he is giving Billions to his banker friends.

Its a fact that buildings don't fall down at the speed of gravity.

Its a fact that the massive steel core of WTC buildings was completely dismembered.

[macindrew]

exactly - it still seems there are a few wackos that clearly don't understand rudimentary concepts of materials and how they operate under stress. they fill this void by some kind of "inside job" conspiracy, which is so laughable it makes my stomach hurt.

these people should be given a 1 year trip to college to learn about "construction, physics, chemistry, and metallurgy". then they can LAUGH at how stupid they are, and why everyone currently laughs at them.

they're modern day village idiots!

[verbalmilitia]

People are in such denial that the IUSG, Illegal US Gov't would ever kill their own people on purpose they will come up with anything. Saying buildings that were smashed collapsed when they all had to be taken down after 911 by demolition, or saying they were 'shaked' is absurd and just goes to show the effect of the propaganda and brainwashing they are under.

We are building a vid and chat library exposing every aspect of the NWO, so when they start internet 2 we'll have internet 3 ready.

[Gonk]

Those owuld be the ppl who voted for Bush and believe in GOD :)

[Sherman1783]

Here's a good dose of visual proof for those that bought into the lie of 9/11. How can anyone watch this, and make a rational comparison of this building and WTC-7 and not come to realize that it was an inside job? Wake up people! Don't be afraid to think freely and not just accept the force fed crap they sell you as the truth.

[arodwh99]

Dude, WTC 3 and 5 collapsed as a result of WTC 1 and 2 collapsing onto the buildings. As for #7, it collapsed as a result of the fires it had, falling debris, as well as the the shock of the twin tower collapsing.

[golcynski]

1. Destruction proceeds through the path of greatest resistance at nearly free-fall acceleration

2. Improbable symmetry of debris distribution

3. Extremely rapid onset of destruction

4. Over 100 first responders reported explosions and flashes

5. Multi-ton steel sections ejected laterally 600 ft at 60 mph

6. Mid-air pulverization of 90,000 tons of concrete & metal decking

7. Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic-like clouds

[golcynski]

8. 1200-foot-dia. debris field: no "pancaked" floors found

9. Isolated explosive ejections 20 40 stories below demolition front

10. Total building destruction: dismemberment of steel frame

11. Several tons of molten iron found under all 3 high-rises

12. Evidence of thermite incendiaries found in steel & dust samples

13. FEMA steel analysis: sulfidation, oxidation & intergranular melting

14. No precedent for steel-framed high-rise collapse due to fire

[LauraIngrahamShow2]

WTC was shaked to collapse not just burned.

I guess if there were WTC 1 and 2 near that mandarin Oriental building and collapsed, that building may collapse too.

[wickstarr]

SHAKED HOW?

[hamid954]

22 feet flames

[dangerouslytalented]

First, WTC 7 had massive damage on its south face, and the facade was a loadbearing facade, built tube style like Tower 1 and Tower 2, with three loadbearing supports at the base.

The Chinese skyscraper is a hotel, and hotels are built like a honeycomb of concrete, because hotels do not need acres of floorspace, so loadbearing walls can go all the way from the core to the facade. Collapse like a house of cards is simply impossible in such a structure.

[riceowlex]

So if WTC 7 had all this damage to one side of it's fascade why didn't it fall toward the injured area. Like a tree dude, basic physics it loses it's strength in a deep gouge it falls over not straight down...Jesus are you retarded. That and Steven Jones finding tons of thermate

ae911truth(DOT)org.

[dangerouslytalented]

It did. If you watch the footage closely you will see that it fell down, not directly down, but kind of sideways, not entire like a tree, but more like a house of cards, spilling itself across Ground Zero, and not simply into its own footprint.

And thermate was not found. If thermate was used, (it was not) it would have been burned up completely before it was found.

[golcynski]

During WTC7 collapse, the crash area is at ground level, there is no other collapse going on but symmetrically and evenly across the bottom floor, floor after floor without a change in pattern, how can a building that is not build symmetrically, each floor design might be little different, doesn't have symmetric fires, fall down as if "by design"

[golcynski]

Massive damage was done to WTC 3 5 right next to WTC 1 and 2, and they did not collapse.

WTC 7, housed offices of some very important people/agencies, it was engineered as a bunker.

A New York city "nerve center" I bet was more structurally sound than "cheap" chinese hotel.

I guess Chinese engineers are way better than our engineers, its just when they make stuff for the west they resort to using crappy ingredients.

Not all HOtel walls are load bearing.

WTC had massive steel beam cores

[dangerouslytalented]

WTC 3 and 5 were a shopping center and a hotel, if I am not mistaken.

Plus building a clear floorspan is more labor intensive than to build a honeycomb of concrete walls. It is also far more expensive in New York to build using concrete than it is in China. So it is stronger not because it is more expensive, but because it is cheaper. I know it sounds counterintuitive, But a slab of concrete in china is cheaper than a clear span of floor in a steel building.

[golcynski]

Have you ever build a house of cards,

Build it at least 10 stories, throw a tennis ball into middle of it, see how it collapses, I bet some of it might even remain standing.

[andrewh23]

Where is Dick Cheney?